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I am a first-generation lawyer. I am a professional and not a hapless victim. Tactics such as constant trolling, creating fake news, whether it’s the so-called “slapgate”, whether to divert attention or create a false narrative, are unacceptable and will be called out. This is clearly a well-orchestrated attempt to target a successful first- generation woman professional like me. We have standards, ethics, and morality - something the rumour mongers, and trolls lack. It is high time anonymous witch-hunts and smear campaigns face legal consequences. I will not take the fall for something that never happened. I was brought up to be strong and stand tall - and to face adversity with courage. Where I come from, integrity, courtesy and fairness in how we deal with people matter most. My team defines who I am, and there is a reason we remain the best competition practice in the country. To the disseminators of fake news across platforms, including WhatsApp groups: As part of the legal fraternity, does it not behove you to at least attempt a fact-check once before forwarding malicious gossip? Introspect and be better. To my wonderful Firm Trilegalteam, clients, seniors and peers across the profession, friends, and family who are supporting me through this - you are the silver lining. Class and courtesy show and set you apart from the crowd. We will get justice, the trolls and disseminators will stand unmasked - IP addresses leave a digital footprint. I am a self-made woman. And, none of this will break me. #notinmyname #injusticeshouldnotbetolerated #firstgeneration #stillstandingtall

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A clarification on recent events Around 10 days ago, an anonymous post appeared on a website alleging that one of our partners had slapped an associate. This irresponsible post was made without any evidence whatsoever, leading to further comments baselessly claiming that this was the ▮▮▮, ▮▮▮. As the lies multiplied, it was insinuated that the firm’s management had paid to cover up the incident. Some comments even threatened physical violence against ▮▮▮. The firm stands in solidarity to categorically reject these malicious rumours. No complaint (formal or informal) of any such incident was ever received. No money was paid out of turn to any associate for any reason. This is an utter fabrication, and the Firm is taking recourse to remedies available to it under law. We are determined to see these actions through until we stand vindicated. ▮▮▮ will continue its mission to be an agent of change in our profession. ▮▮▮

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Voting rights are not based on knowledge or maturity levels, they are to ensure representation. Our founding fathers were wise enough to grant every adult voting rights irrespective of their group identities. Once you start curtailing voting rights on the basis of a 'certain group' not being mature enough or responsible enough you open the floodgates for other group identities to be excluded in the future based on the same principle. This is especially worrisome in a country where people are hounded with caste, religious, and gender discrimination. Although the whole argument may seem like a slippery slope but real life is not perfectly logical.

Also, Ramaswamy is a grifter hoping to get some office by wagging his tail before his white master, Trump. Ramaswamy (and Republicans') are extremely unpopular among younger women and minority groups, and the easiest way to counter it is to introduce a condition where the voices of such younger people don't matter. His sole objective is to curb such group identities.

Like many comments have pointed out, majority of Ramaswamy supporters and republicans who are above 21 or 25, in general do not care about these issues. In India too, just like the USA, people think that a certain leader is their messiah/vishnuavatar who is here to redeem them and thwart out the evil.

Fiscal discipline does not matter when you are the only superpower on the face of the Earth. USA is too big to fail. The world economy runs Plus the fiscal policy is not even that extreme.

Republicans' will effectively end USA's global hegemony. Russia and China are constantly pumping money into election interference just so Republicans' are elected. Republicans' and Ramaswamy's 'inward looking policies' will be perfect in light of Ukraine war and potential occupation of Taiwan. Trump and his handling of state secrets has already brought him under the radar.

Illegal immigration is not going to stop magically. People have always found ways to enter countries one way or the other. Plus a significant number of labour market participants are illegal immigrants.

Privatisation has only resulted in worsening of many essential industries and deteriorating quality of life for citizens. Privatised healthcare and insurance are prime examples. Also, privatisation and liberalisation are buzzwords thrown around by capitalists to play with your emotions. The moment big government steps down you get inferior products, higher prices, cut down forests, particulate air, poisonous groundwater, etc.

TLDR: Stop listening to men like Ramaswamy and Musk whose sole credibility is their vast fortune. They are only in it for the riches and power. They do not care about you. They are better off if you are worse off.

This is not true. I know NUJS NRI quota people who had made it to GNLU, NLUJ, NLIU, RGNUL etc. Many people, especially those with homes in Kolkata, have chosen to pay more and study at NUJS. If you have a home in Kolkata you have the luxury of commuting everyday, as the college is well connected to the city through the ITC hotel-Park Circus flyover and will soon have a metro station as well. So stop spreading utter lies.

What is NFSU? Forensic Science University. Why are you promoting it as law school? This forum should not discuss NFSU as it doesn't discuss NIFT or Hotel Management. They may have set up a law department but that won't make NFSU anywhere close to an NLU.

No wise law aspirant will even consider NFSU option.

Which world are you living in? LGBTQ are not even 0.5 percent of population. How can it impact national elections?

All the LGBT activism and awareness limited to big cities and few universities/ law school campuses. This is not an issue at all for something like lok sabha elections.

Hi OP, this is coming from someone who got an overwhelming number of PPO offers, independently from the college —

You are at the stage where you'll have to become extremely proactive in your applications — there shouldn't be a single remotely decent law firm/reputed litigator that you can find on LinkedIn whose partners/HRs you haven't contacted. Start by finding common grounds — common practice area, common uni (if possible), common school, or even common hometown if need be. Anyone in law who has reasonably decent qualifications and could hire another junior/associate should get a proper, tailored & detailed mail from you whereby you specify what you've done, what you've read & studied, and how that demonstrates you can be an asset to their team. If this sounds overly daunting, that's because it is. This will take at least your entire month, and is still not foolproof. But respectfully, when you take admission in a 'time-pass' college, a natural sequitur becomes that you'll have to spend far more time & energy in finding a decent job than someone who went to a decent college.

PS: For what it's worth, it's not impossible. I've seen people from terrible colleges eventually make it to Tier 1s but in most cases, such people tend to come from other forms of privilege and still take ~2-3 years, either by jumping through firms, or through year-long paralegal contracts. So, if you want to beat the odds, you'll have to work extraordinarily hard accordingly.

Even the Hon'ble PM uses this term - BIMARU. There is no other acronym for the backward states. This is an official term.

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/pm-modi-mentions-bimaru-tag-in-uttar-pradesh-rajasthan-what-does-this-term-mean-8442618/

Bro, there is a girl who chose NUJS NRI quota over NLUJ merit entry as she is from Kolkata. She is currently working In a T1 firm but has got scholarships to Oxford and Cambridge and will be headed there. I don’t want to give her name because she is a friend and I don't want to drag her into this muckfest with trolls.

Bhai, arts subjects main accha tha but

peer pressure ke chakkar main engineering ki, fir job Kiya Pvt sector main , phir UPSC/PCS ki taiyari ki, UPSC/PCS clear nahin hua , abhi Govt. Job kar raha hoon. But mujhe apni zindagi main kuch matlab ka karna hain isliye I am trying to find out ke mere jaise log abhi is age main law course karenge toh kya kar sakte hain is field main .

The context is the leaked fee schedule of Kapil Sibal on Twitter. The author says that law is hard work etc and the fees is justified. 😂 She really needs a reality check. 🙄 What about doctors working hard to save lives, as we saw during the pandemic? Do they deserve to get merely 1% of the fees of certain senior counsels who don’t even read briefs and just stand up in court? What about teachers, or cancer researchers, or civil engineers building bridges and roads?

I have to say that the quality of articles on BB is really dipping of late.

https://www.barandbench.com/columns/oh-the-judgment-of-value

Well if you are someone who is capable of dishing out 50 lakhs for a course which requires 15 at best, the last thing which you should be doing is rubbing into our faces about how rich and how many connections you have. Folks from NRI quota being successful isn't surprising because they already have a support structure. It's not the W that you think it is.

Khyber, get a life. Who cares about an NLU which has no campus, no faculty, nothing practically.

Tell me why any student or parent should invest 5 year of their life and at least 15-20 lakh of money to study at NLU in Prayagraj, Tripura, Meghalaya, Sikkim, Goa, Aurangabad etc when students of well established NLUs in Lucknow, Raipur, Patiala.etc not getting jobs, even struggling for internships.

Hope this mad rush to set up NLUs and more than one in a state must stop. The brand is at stake. More than half of NLUs not worth spending 1 year leave 5 long years.

I did my LLB from a local college. Did LLM from JGLS. Worked in a low paying in-house role for a couple of years. Then shifted to a T3 firm for a while, thanks to a friend who was kind enough to refer me, and then finally moved to T1, thanks to a recruiter. So it is possible. All the best.

Lol, it’s essentially a Management Quota which has literally been declared illegal by one of the High Courts. The fact that these kids are successful is like saying the Ambani children are greatly successful. They’re only succeeding because of their parents wealth and background, not out of merit.

What an elitist view. The point of 12th exams ideally should be to establish you have learned some minimum amount. Shit happens, young kids make mistakes. Why should they have to pay for this their entire life? They gave the compartment and passed. Thus, they can establish that they learned something. Why must we turn everything into a competition, pulling others down?

Sorry, I couldn't express it more clearly. I am in neither way telling this in a proud manner as my clg is a top-ranked clg.

On the other hand, I mentioned it in a tone of egregiousness as, being ranked by good forums every year, the college has failed to provide any placement. Also, that people should not judge me as if I come from mid tier University and then blame it on the college for being not able to provide placements.

"Unlike engineering and medical" What are you on about? Engineering is THE most saturated field in our country. Look at data science and software jobs for Indian grads and stop preaching. Then look at the number of people who give neet. Then look for people in civil services. Then uh, architecture and uh academia and...do you get where this is going?

With a workforce of over a billion most fields are going to be saturated. You're not saying anything revolutionary with the "but because anyone is able to" line lmao.

Anyone can do right about anything in our country and that should be promoted instead of being looked down upon.

The above reply was pathetic because the commenter portrayed himself as a victim. If you're good enough, you wouldn't need to beg others to not join the race. I can go on about the beauty of law and how you can restart your career at any age and how in different countries a ton of people do law in their 30s or 40s after retiring from one career and are still wildly successful but I'm sure it'd fall on deaf ears.

Do logon ki race mein second aakr khush honge fir koi teesra aaye toh pls saar this isn't fair saar ka rona chalu kardenge🤦🏻‍♂️ bhai mehnat karo aur ye victim mentality se bahar niklo.

And op, go ahead if you're determined enough. Age is a really arbitrary thing. (Checkout a few reddit threads on people doing law in their 30s)

Nls llb is also seeing a push from the admin so it'd be a decent option (absolutely do talk to current students there though)

If getting into tax lit is what you want, then don't worry about joining people/firms with quality/high-end/famous matters. The learning curve is quite steep. Start at any place that is willing to give a raw fresher with some tax internships a chance. It will take you some time to get a hang of things, esp the fact that you need to learn basic accounts+tax+ admin/consti law at the same go along with general rigmarole of litigation world

What Bs if you are getting a job at T3 firm take it and try switching next year to a T2 and within a year to a T1 . With PQE it gets much easier to switch if you know your shit. Caveat in the above mentioned scenario is that you apply for the same practice area and after two years you would be earning an A0 salary at T1. Lateral hires aren't difficult if you have worked at Law firms even if you were paid 3 lpa as a fresher. However do switch next year to a firm that is atleast offering a100 to125 percent hike.

In response to the comment that courses like Law, Poverty and Development ought not to be taught compulsorily in law schools, I share this quote from the opening lines of an edited volume by Raka Ray and Mary Katzenstein: "Not only is the persistence of widespread undernourishment in India quite extraordinary, so is the silence with which it is tolerated, not to mention the smugness with which it is sometimes dismissed."

Most of you, my juniors at the now various national law schools, would follow in the footsteps of my colleagues from the early cohorts of what continues to be now rather erroneously referred to as 'the' law school. You shall join the law firms and never again be left wanting to almost anything. You shall not care for the majority of India and its many struggling bodies. Therefore, maybe give 40 to 60 hours of your life to establish at least the very basic understanding of them and the noble profession you are about join.

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PS: I am sharing links to profiles of the authors quoted above as many of you will likely dismiss the strength of the quote from names that mean nothing to you. Raka is a Professor of Sociology and Dean of Social Sciences at Berkeley (https://sociology.berkeley.edu/alumni-manager/raka-ray), while Mary is an emeritus Professor of Government at Cornell (https://government.cornell.edu/mary-fainsod-katzenstein).

I want to join Btg as associate. Does the application through hr route work ?

Also, their website states that emailing the partners won't be appreciated, any comments on this, is this for real ?

Hr route mostly doesn't work out so i was thinking of taking the extra effort of reaching out to the partners through LinkedIn/email, but I don't want to piss off the partners. Any comments?

Don't go to Nirma. It's a scam. Someone had given me this advice before I was about to take admission here. I still regret not listening to them. It doesn't matter from which private college you are. To excel easily you have to either be from an NLU or you should have GREAT CONTACTS. Private colleges does not matter. And even if you are considering private colleges, maybe try NMIMS Indore. Those people are doing at least as good as students from other reputed private law colleges. Trust me man, if you are not from Ahmedabad, living there is gonna be hell!!!!

NKC's extension plea has been deferred by the NUJS EC in its last meeting. But the EC hasn't appointed any search committee either with his tenure to end in three more months. So TMC will probably get him back in after the elections, with the party stooges in the EC and NKC's own new acolyte doing the needful.