You answered yourself. When a college does not have high placements, recruitments and a good corporate law culture they end up preparing for govt jobs because of the lack of options. Why else do you think traditional humanities graduate from traditional universities dominate UPSC? Beacause that is their "only" exit option. Any top NLU, top IIT or top IIM will have campus placements or professional career in their course of under graduation as the top option. So NLU D used to have more people joining civil services because of the same reason. Its placements are still not matching other tier 1 colleges.

You said it yourself. Anyone can crack UPSC. Even a simple humanities graduate. I don't think so being from NLU adds any special flavour to you as far as UPSC is concerned. It is a dumb exam where you can become a revenue officer while taking Sanskrit as your optional and History as your UG gabbling by rote anything in between. Medical colleges are know by the quality of doctors they produce and NLUs should be known by the quality of their lawyers. That's it. You can in between try entrepreneurship or UPSC or acting or whatever you want, but that does not change the basic metrics by which a NLU or a AIIMS should be measured.

https://twitter.com/UPSC_Notes/status/1780613588656476282

Some comments on the thread below. My first thought is that if these are the type of questions asked in the UPSC, then surely NLU grads have a chance of doing very well? Maybe it's time more NLU grads think of giving this exam, even at the cost of 2 years prep?

"Kids, the only thing that matters is good handwriting."

(from NLSIU alum and corp lawyer Suhas Baliga)

"This is so worthless. Dumping Oppenheimer story in basic english - verbose & pointless. Our priorities seem skewed when we test outdated skills in exams instead of nurturing critical thinkers and innovators. We urgently need to reassess this exam and the candidates."

"Good but it seems written by a 10th grader rather than the UPSC CSE AIR 1. Grammatical mistakes and lack of connection between the lines described make this a doubtful essay."

"bro waffled his way to ias"

"UPSC also you have to underline keywords like in board exam?"

This is so worthless. Dumping Oppenheimer story in basic english - verbose & pointless. Our priorities seem skewed when we test outdated skills in exams instead of nurturing critical thinkers and innovators. We urgently need to reassess this exam and the candidates.

Help a Bhopal lawyer! I engaged a Delhi lawyer to argue a matter in the Delhi High Court and his memo charges me for Each short/non-substantive hearing -15K. Is this standard practice in Delhi? Shouldn't such hearings not be charged for at all? Follow-up question- why don't high court lawyers in Delhi offer a flat one-time fee for all drafts and hearings? Like in all other states?

FACTS

1. Gave verbal intimation Jan 05, and sent official email to resign on Jan 09. Received one liner email that my last day is Feb 15.

2. Got Covid so couldn't go to office from Feb 12 to Feb 15, but requested WFH (shared report as well). Never received response on that. But kept working, attended meetings.

3. Have submitted my laptop to firm.

4. Still recieved notice saying submit laptop and pay money for rest of the notice period (which is for the entirety of 90 days, but this was never mentioned before that my notice period is not waived off)

Issue: Future employment- what will be issues when i apply to next job? Do law firms care for such things and will they check so in background check?

I find Insolvency laws very interesting and huge scope in time to come as a specialisation. However, it's somewhat limited at present. Wanted to know if there's a way to continue on the M&A side with additional specialisation towards Corporate Restructuring? Is it a feasible strategy? What will be the opportunities across firms?

I disagree. There have been some occasions where retired high court judges have served as union Minister for Law. One example is P Shiv Shankar. So there is every chance that Abhijit Gangopadhyay could be appointed as law minister. He could use this post to tighten the screws against Abhishek Banerjee in various ways.

Or is everything cool if you hire AM Singhvi and Gopal Shankarnarayan to represent you? Only Baba Ramdev gets the stick?

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From the interview she seems to be a pleasant and sincere girl with no airs, despite her success. It’s hard to find such types of girls (or boys) in NLUs these days. Most of them are super arrogant and think themselves to be god’s gift to mankind. So I wish her the best of luck and hope she continues to be this way.

You crack judiciary and enter district level judiciary which is good but powerless comparing Higher judicary and courts and morever you are powerless person whoses judgments holds not much value like HC and SC judgement.

I have heard the Advocates in District court create nuisance for judges a lot and go on strikes hampering the judicary. Plus see the Shi*Ty infrastructre of courts.

I fucking went to HC of lucknow just to see Gutka been spit on its premises. the Disctrict courts are so bad in infra and very less security. Last year a criminal was shot in premises of Lucknow district court.

If you cannot reach the HC and SC judiciary then its not good enough considering you can be transferred to some of the worst districts which you have never even heard of.

Why are multiple threads on the same topic being posted? The answer is the same:

- First of all wait till the elections. How the TMC performs will be a sign of who will win in 2026. Depending on the result, a lot of secularists could become saffron overnight, or vice versa. You kids should understand one thing: most grown-ups have zero ideology except self-interest.

- Like last time, the TMC will try to rig the selection panel and push through its own candidate, via Kishore Datta. They will want either NKC again or a local TLC professor.

- The CJI will appoint a nominee to the panel. It will very likely be Justice Dipankar Datta. He will be outnumbered by the TMC men, but an SC judge’s word does have clout and he can insist on a transparent process if he wishes to do so

- If Datta takes an active role and insists on a transparent appointment, you could see a lot of good people applying, including NLU alumni.

- My own bet is on Faizan Mustafa getting the job. The TMC won’t mind too much, while those unhappy with NKC will see him as an improvement.

Happy for her personal success. But having said that, can't believe it's come to this now that tier1/2 NLU grads (that too a high performer) now write state government public service exams. I remember in my time, grads of top NLUs wouldn't even think of joining any civil service other than IAS/IFS/IPS, or tier 1/2 corp jobs, or foreign study. Now even NUJS grads are writing state judiciary exams.

You can keep ranting and crying about contacts buddy, nobody is going to hear you here or anywhere, thats the reality of life. Go ask around with your seniors, connect on lnkedin, intern at smaller places and ask around, cold email

Also, no it's not about merit. If there are multiple people, it gets tougher to stand out, which only actually matters, merit is bs at this stage.

Modi absolutely, anyone who thinks otherwise is devoid of ground reality.

Whatever is listed in an NDA agenda will be accelerated. Pat close attention to what Amit Shah has said over the years.

Judiciary reforms in the form of judges appointment, no one cares about NLUs apart from NLU-elites.

Rahul won't win.

Riots, yes, in pockets. Will be ignored by central government as if they don't exist like Manipur situation, unfortunately.

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but how do you find out such things on your own until and unless you have some crazy connections which is direct result of your privilege and everybody does not have that privilege.
So you could might as well just name the firm, let there be competition, the person with higher merit will get the job.

As usually, NLS diluting their teaching standards. Do you really think India has produced decent LLM graduates to teach in NLS. Absolutely not, however they have to cater to the 300 people they've started inducting. The faculty will definitely lower the teaching standards of NLS.

Exactly as I commented above. CSE is never about the institution, it's more about the individual. Having given this exam myself, I know plenty of people who have come from colleges that one may have never even heard of and still cleared this exam. People congratulating GNLU or NLS only for the selected candidates, not realising that there maybe more from the same universities who haven't even cleared the prelims. So stop the a$$ kissing

I am from GNLU, both LLB & LLM, and I've given two interviews myself. So before you start running your mouth, understand the content & context. You're a lawyer at the end of the day. Improve your comprehension skills.

My comment simply states that congratulate the candidate, not the institution, since it was not the institution's job to help her excel in CSE. GNLU or any NLU does not provide classes on CSE. It's a law school, not a CSE coaching institute. If this was the judiciary, then it would have made sense since the institution is in line with judiciary and allied exams. However, people here & all over LI are tooting their own horn, whether it's NLS, GNLU or any other NLUD.

CSE, if you've given it you would know, is unlike other exams. It's more your preparation than the institutions. This is like those coaching institutes that admit 100 aspirants and when one succeeds with their own hardwork, they hijack it as their own.

Grow up. No NLU prepares you for competition exams. It's all on you. So congratulations to the candidate not the institution.

My great Grandfather (G▮▮▮ Ji) had a 0.7Hect land under his name. Then the families got divided in 4 parts (my grandfather). To make things easier let's take 4 family names as A,B,C,D. I'm in the D Family. Family A & B knew about the land from past 40+ years and never told us about the property and they even tried selling but eventually they couldn't without our permission or whatever reason. We (Family D and C) came to know about all this recently.

Now the problem is that someone named X donated the property in his family claiming to be the son of G▮▮▮ Ji. There is no person in our family ever named S▮▮▮ Ji.

They property is under the names of X's family members.

Can My family claim it? If yes then how? All families will co-operate to regain the acquisition of the land.

That's BS.

Except for CAM having a strict Internship and hiring policy, other firms do take in interns and give out PPOs and the HRs usually don't have much of a say for PPOs.Try talking to your mentor or SAs or PAs in your internship. If the partner is approachable then approach him.

Before you do this, make sure your work speaks for you. You should be good at what you do.

HRs are just for namesake in firms. Impress the team and you'll be good

Just let the NLUs/university law depts decide their undergraduate courses in law. Make it a 4 year course. And then those interested to practice can undergo a separate 1-2 year course that is approved by the BCI and run by specialised institutions attached to specific NLU etc. Those who successfully complete this course will enter practice or sit for the AIBE.

Kinda like what happens in the UK, US, Australia

Certain saffron leaders from Karnataka (maybe other states as well) thought that going hardline would make their political future more secure and brighter. That's what their leaders told them as well. Except that they were denied tickets to LS this time. And then absent from "star campaigner' lists as well. Other skeletons tumbling out as well.

At times volunteering to be someone's knife can be career enhancing. But it is like riding a tiger. Many fail, few succeed.

What nonsense, please pull out stats of how many NLUites have cleared it in the past 5 years, you will get your answer that NLUD is way ahead of the pack.

Really not trying to be a troll here - NLUD may not have the most active placements, but in terms of career outcomes with respect to Delhi judiciary (possibly the toughest judicial services exam to clear) and UPSC, NLUD leads the pack by a mile.

GNLU Anmol Rathore came close to the all time highest NLU rank this year, with 7. NLS has the 1st (rank 5) and joint 2nd (rank 6) with NALSAR. Hope an NLU grad can break into the top 3 next year, and maybe even the all-India topper. That would be a great day.

This is great motivation for all NLU students.

While JS is the EAM now, many other acolytes and MPs (LS/RS) with foreign service credentials were not made EAM or deputy EAMs. Similarly, folks having superior domain expertise in finance, economics etc weren't made FMs. The list goes on.

So JAG needn't necessarily become the next LM. Another reason will be that many in the SC wouldn't want a "junior" to be the LM. There is a chance he may become a deputy to HM or some such ministry, which can be used to shower largesse/armstrong the WB govt.

Agriculture, Fisheries, Rural Development etc

So interesting to note that the UN service rules and CCS rules (or their state equivalents) in India place similar restrictions. While India was inspired by the British rules (post-Independence) and later the Soviets (with no real change thereafter despite the current "decolonisation" rhetoric), it is amazing that the UN remains hidebound to this day.

Modi win guaranteed or Rahul scores an upset and becomes the next PM?

Will long-pending reforms be accelerated?

What about judicial reforms, NLU reforms and entry of foreign law firms?

If Rahul wins, will his plan to redistribute wealth be bad for the economy?

Will there be riots if UCC and CAA are implemented?

In my experience, it is unlikely that your CGPA will make a tangible difference in the process of hiring. Depends much more on whether the team likes the quality of your work, work ethic and personality. Unlike campus placements, where firms hire in large numbers without pre-determining which team you'll be assigned to, PPOs are generally offered by specific teams. Resultantly, the focus isn't on ensuring that you're the best candidate on paper - but that you fit well into the team's culture and someone at the Partner/PA level recognises your work.

That being said, your CGPA may be relevant in some other ways. For instance, while I was recommended for a PPO by a Delhi-partner, my PPO interview was conducted by a Mumbai-based partner. I was required to send in my CV in advance, which of course indicated my grades. While I was not asked any questions related to it, it remains difficult to ascertain whether it made any tangible difference in the Mumbai-based partner's approval for my candidacy. In firms (like Trilegal - notorious for offering call-backs/interviews to a large number of students) where the interview is consequential and not merely formal, your chances may improve with better grades.

1. It is meritocratic but that doesn't mean the other firms aren't.

2. After the initial few years the other firms match trilegal pay if not more.

3. It is not the firm but the partner, if I have found a good partner great work and he shifts his team to azb, I'm going to azb. The firm in the end doesn't matter, the person who you ultimately work for matters

It would be very helpful if someone could provide information about LegaLogic Consulting, Pune

I am currently in my 5th year and have an internship scheduled with LegaLogic in Pune, I am aiming to secure a job through the PPO route, considering I am not from a Tier-1 Law College.

Any help and suggestions would be highly appreciated.

1. Work culture

2. Pay

3. Internship and PPO policies

Have heard packages of law firms and fees of senior counsels been discussed frequently, but dont know much about general counsels/in-house counsels in companies (per annum). Does anyone have any info on how much some may make, ranging from small to bigger companies that they may be employed in?

Haha! Your logic is not logicing - unless you still carry colonial hangover. For context, moderators (like moderators of panel discussion for example) usually are people who know a subject / an industry well to moderate. Smart people will also understand that moderation is not just about principles of natural Justice. Like neither is any Internet venting / abusing a marker of natural Justice. And the web is the wild - as good as it is, it is abused for personal vendata (I am sure you are aware of what has been happening around you).

Not a defender of LI pointlessly, but don’t get disappointed so easy. Life in itself is very disappointing.

And if people are smart enough and are right in their stance - don’t go faceless man! Just like sly politics, it’s the easiest.

Please share some insights on what is the work that an associate in a disputes team does. I know that it involves drafting, research and maybe a few appearances. But I am looking for a more detailed information? Like how is a normal day at work ? Are associates expected to draft petitions all by themselves?

You'll see triggered fools here immediately start with their whataboutism...Abey murkho that's not the point. Subbarao is right. all these cabinet ministers pressure the RBI to falsify or manipulate information to paint a better picture. It happened then and it's happening now. Institutions have been rotten for a long time and the rot continues to grow.

How can I perform to the best of my capabilities in a transactions team (M&A/PE/VC) in order to secure a PPO? I have 2 internships - one at a tier 3/4 firm and another at a tier 1 firm.

What are the top 5 things to nail when performing work?

How to nail the other non-work related things? (eg: dressing (for women specifically), communication, presentation at the end of the internship, anything else?)

And if any of you have insights on how an internship in the transactions team is different from tier 3 vs tier 1?