Impressive, if true! Lets average out salaries at each level - around 23.5L at A, 45L at SA, 65L at PA. So looks like team cost won't be more than 3 cr. Assuming other misc costs to be ~2 cr, the team is still generating more than 9 cr in pure profits! The partner must be taking home a good amount even after giving the firm its share

The first two floors of the apartments are occupied by boys that came via vacancy.

Third-Sixth floors are occupied by our first year girls. (they also have other residents living there)

These residents are from engineering colleges (mainly boys) and there are various catcalling, indecency incidents that have occurred over the past year that was IGNORED by the management.

The purpose behind this rant is to find a way we can curb this problem without me compromising my identity (and my seat in this university)

Ok smarty pants. I write a letter and then surprisingly get a backlog in my end sems that will start from day after tomorrow. Sounds great right?

Let's be real this uni is owned by a ▮▮▮ who's not . If 10+ PQE lawyers couldn't do shit how is it feasible for teenagers to just risk everything and sit on a hunger strike?

P.S - the above email is sent (via CC) to all the batches, the VC and the relevant faculties. Guess what? IGNORED.

I'm only commenting about the plight of first year students. Our life is confined to an 8:45am bus to campus with 10-4:30 classes and then a direct bus at 4:45pm.

The campus is great however we first years live 7km away in the middle of nowhere. Our voice is being crushed no matter where we raise it.

About the Jindal family, here is the family history:

BC Jindal, DP Jindal and OP Jindal were brothers. BC and DP made their money in Bengal/Kolkata and OP (dad of Naveen and Sajjan) in Haryana/Delhi. BC and DP’s descendants still operate from Bengal and live in Kolkata but their business is obviously much smaller than that of OP’s branch of the family. While a part of this is because of the decline in Bengal, it’s also true that OP and his kids donated heavily to the Congress and were helped by successive Congress governments. The gap became larger because of this. Of course, now they have shifted to the BJP.

Best way is to intern in a smaller boutique firm (who preferably does transactions with bigger firms), for a longer term prove yourself. I recommend boutique firm cause you'll be give worthwhile work and will have more exposure to the clients/other firms. Once you get better at work try asking for a professional referral.

I don't remember exactly, but there are AC PGs in charni road in the building behind Parsi Dairy Farm. Infact a lot of them in Charni road area given your higher budget. You could also book a hotel room for the month, could be better. Charni road is 15 minute train journey from lower parel. And the convinient thing is the train you'll need to take will be the opposite journey so you will get to go and return in almost empty trains. Get a first class pass for the month will be very cheap. Please don't look for flats in Chembur/Govandi it's a nightmare to travel to parel. One world is a 5 minute walk from Prabhadevi station so only go for PGs/Flats/Hotels in walking distance from Western Line Stations: Churchgate, Marine Lines, Charni Road, Grant Road, Mumbai Central, Mahalaxmi.

Hello,

Personal details -

I am working in a Tier 2 law firm in Mumbai in IBC Practice. I have 4+ years work experience here and there. I started with a Litigation lawyer, climbed up to a firm. I took this job due to family financial issues. Currently earning 12 LPA. But I don't have savings due to family reasons - I had to support them for these many years. My age is 26.

Not giving exact details for privacy reasons.

My dream was to became a Judicial Officer. But currently I have done zero prep. I have mostly done SARFESI, IBC work and have forgotten every important law over the time. I only go to NCLT and DRT.

Is it possible to prepare for Judicial Services Exam with a job?

My working houses are 10 to 8, luckily weekends are off (Saturday and Sunday)

How to prepare?

Should I leave my job for preparation?

I am looking for UP Judicial Services Exam.

Kindly tell me if preparing with full time job is possible.

I have heard that for UPSC exams it's very difficult to study with full time job. Is it the same for Judicial Services?

I can quit the job but I only have 4L savings enough for 1 year.

I am confident that Congress/INDIA will win and BJP/NDA will lose. I do not believe any of the opinion polls and they are all rigged by Adani-Ambani media. I am extremely active on social media and everyone I see on Facebook will be voting for Congress/INDIA. So why should I trust opinion polls?

I am currently in my final year of a tier-3 law school. I am interested in Corporate but I have no job offers from any law firms even after applying in different firms.

What should I do?????

Please Help !!!

Also for the Corporate and M&A team, what is the market standard salary for A0 currently?

Moderator, can we please get a sticky LI thread clearly stating the moderation rules and standards? Because of late, at least part of the moderation seems quite random and arbitrary. I am stating this as an objective reader, setting aside law school petty rivalry or political affiliation. If you don't want anyone to name others, then the same standard should apply throughout, for example. If universities can be named, but law firms are off limits, please mention that clearly. Basically, let the readers and posters know about the rules and be objective and clear about those. Kian used to do that once upon a time.

Write a Mail and Letter to CM plus hold protests or boycott classes.

Make sure to spam mails of politicians and VC

If you are paying 3 Lakh rupee in a year and still not getting promised facilities you should file a court case against UNI it will surely attract media

NFSU and RRU have been setup by Governmnet of India for long trm vision for nation. RRU if first national security University. See the link and courses, facilities, faculty page, training etc. multi discpilinary University. To us, alike other Universities, half of the course is taught by real practitioners, officers and we are given regular field hand on experince. We lawstudents have life time opportunity to study and pursue career in RRU along with Criminology/criminal phychology, financial crimes , Cyber security, Defence, IR, laguages and many more verticals. Come and see the difference here.

as is the case with any online platform, shouldn't the moderation policy here be the opposite to what it is rn, i.e., a comment should first be published unmoderated and if someone reports it or otherwise, it be taken down under moderation? The mods approving every comment only reinforces the notion that LI would allow one to speak what they want to, and that there really is no "free speech" on here. thoughts?

Apart from this university has multiple other issues as well. Let's write to CJI, Chancellor and Maharashtra Chief Minister to what administration is doing here.

issue No. 1: Favoritism in PhD Candidacy

A concerning situation has emerged involving favoritism towards a PhD candidate who is also a faculty member. The candidate's withdrawal from another National Law University (NLU) was inaccurately portrayed as a transfer, providing them with undue benefits for their PhD tenure. Despite the widespread knowledge of the withdrawal document among faculty members, the administration continues its bold approach, risking further embarrassment and potential litigation.

Issue No. 2: Financial Mismanagement and Event Planning

The university administration has been criticized for financial mismanagement. Despite the financial strain, plans for a TEDx event are moving forward. Faculty members were initially assured that the event would not impact their partially paid salaries. However, this assurance was retracted from the revised meeting minutes after the Vice-Chancellor (VC), VK, raised concerns about potential media leaks. The original minutes, which had been distributed for reference, are still available.

Issue No. 3: Examination Department Irregularities

The examination department's operations have been called into question, with allegations of result manipulation, biased gold medal allocation, and PhD entrance exam favouritism. The assignment of invigilation duties reveals clear favoritism, with some faculty members being exempted and others repeatedly burdened. The duty charts from the numerous exams conducted throughout the year highlight this unfair practice, which is becoming increasingly intolerable. The Controller of Examinations (CoE), exam convenor, and all Assistant Registrars (ARs) must address these issues as they are creating evidences themselves which will cost them soon

This party is making ground for future whoever comes will prove worthless as they are representative of a race never will be promoted from poverty long live city of joy,ashani sanket,akaler sandhane,we are residing in a greenery,but worthless at last,only having rabindranath for purpose of making different recipes and performing hypocrisy.

3 years senior to you.

I'll give you one simple mantra to make your life easier after college.

Intern intern and intern. There should be no breaks or vacations that u haven't utilised in interning. Try to understand that we 3 yr people get 2 yrs less than the 5 yr guys, so make the most of it.

Same deal with NUJS. The VC and the Registrar are the ones responsible. Faculty and student alike have been suffering in the heat wave, but the air conditioned common spaces access has been taken away from the students, the hostels are blistering, half the classroom ACs aren't working, and despite government warnings about heat waves, the VC just refused to give a week off or postpone classes/exams. All the while, his own room AC is working fine ▮▮▮. He spends money like water for his own random programmes, but won't use students money to provide basic infra! ▮▮▮.

@Moderator: I've got a question, posting it here because it is about a moderation practice. Let's say there has been a thread posted at 5 p.m. I write a comment on that thread at 5:30 p.m. Till 7 p.m., no new comment is visible, which probably means that the thread hasn't been moderated since then. At 7 p.m., the thread shows 3 new comments, none of mine. I can see two other comments have been marked trollish and not published. The size of another unpublished comment indicates that it is probably mine, but it hasn't been published nor marked trollish. My question is, how is that possible? Can the moderator while moderating a thread just skip across a comment without publishing it or marking it trollish? Had this been a thread full of comments, I would have thought that the moderator is simply publishing in phases. But this one only had these six comments. Trying to figure out the process.

This won't get u a job. Stop wasting time and select one single practice area and intern only and only in that.

Also, remove all your previous internships from your CV that don't belong to the practise area u want to get a job in.

Having 4 internships on CV in one particular area is better than having 10 internships all in diverse areas of law.

I understand you must be tempted to explore and make a wise informed choice about your future area of practice but this is a harsh reality, don't confuse the recruiter with multiple practice areas on your CV, stick to one thing and remove everything else.

An idea (since I am also a first-year student at the University): The University can share online form to be filled by first year students(irrespective of their course) asking them for their preference, whether they want to accommodate within the University campus or want to stay at the other hostel. Considering the responses received from the students, the University should provide accommodation to the student, disregarding the course pursued by them.

Hello everyone, does anyone here have any ide about working as an LRA in NCLT and whether law firms will hire me after I am done with the contractual post?

I am a 2023 batch graduate from a non nlu working in district court, want to shift to a law firm or in house department.

Boys living in the girls hostel is not only a violation of the SC guidelines in Vishakha but a huge risk to the safety and security of the girl students, in the wake of incidents of sexual assault reported on other NLUs. You just go to the media and also petition the Chancellor.

Facts need to be backed by data. You're objectively wrong. Even in shitty placement cycles, almost everyone who wanted a job got one. People don't just wake up one day and decide to go for these government exams. The college being in Delhi is a major factor - I have batchmates regularly attending coaching.

Genuinely the most retarded thing I've read today. God help the twitter kids. How is that dehumanization? Do you really think they actually consider themselves a "product" in its normative meaning, and that it was not just a way to let you know they studied in those colleges?

bci should be removed from looking into legal education. Firstly, they are overburdened with the all other function of advocates and other affairs and they do even specialized have members having wide experience in legal academia. Secondly, bci cannot be properly look after the affairs of advocates. So there is a need that specialized legal education be created

It depends on your course. For example, Arbitration is a sought-after course. Admission is competitive. Hence, the focus is on various factors like your knowledge, work experience, diversity of all types, batch size, skills, future plans, etc. You will have to be specific in your SOP and Resume to show you can contribute ably to the discourse in the class and benefit from it, too. Most Universities do not publish specific statistics. These are some of the objective criteria for you to assess your chances.

Feel free to be more specific in your question.

Please somebody bring this to the attention of relevant authorities.

The university is keeping us out of campus in 43° without any basic amenities. 3am power cuts are hindering our exam schedule and it hurts to see that nobody cares about students. Due to the lack of proper management there are boys living in girls hostel and the management is sleeping on it. Here's the below attached email that is sent by the anguished students to the faculty yet no response has come.

I hope this email finds you in good health.

I am writing this email on behalf of the batch of 2023-28, who were promised to be housed in the campus hostels from academic year 2024-25 onwards, who have been kept in separate off-campus housing for the current academic year (2023-24). These promises were made during the Orientation which was attended by both students and parents.

When we enrolled at this university, one amongst many explicit assurances by the administration was that after our first year, all students would be integrated into the main campus hostels. This assurance was a major factor affecting our decision to attend this university because the students were operating under the promise of being shifted to the main campus hostels in the second year. There are, however, no signs in sight that this promise will come to fruition.

Now that this academic year has drawn to a conclusion and since there still is a lot of uncertainty caused by a vacuum of information regarding our rightful shifting, it forces us to speculate what our future accommodation might be, or if the administration would be keeping us at the off-campus hostels indefinitely, due to “certain reasons” that have not been properly communicated.

This is simply unacceptable. We are paying a total fee of Rs. 3,65,000, and therefore have an equal right to the same campus living experience as is being enjoyed by all our senior batches. The university must uphold its commitments.

We demand that concrete answers and a firm timeline be set and communicated immediately by the administration for relocating all students of batch 2023-28 to the campus hostel before the start of the academic year 2024-25. Keeping us isolated and separated is disruptive to the cohesive student experience of which we were assured.

We request an official written communication by the end of Saturday, i.e., April 20, 2024.

In our living experience so far at our current off-campus hostels, we have suffered several issues with respect to our security and living conditions which have already been flagged several times and have been reiterated below. It is pertinent to mention that little or no steps were taken to resolve these issues.

1. Security issues which have been flagged repeatedly

2. Buses do not ply on time, creates a nuisance for students, and leads to loss of precious time

3. Several instances of bus drivers drunk driving and misbehaving

4. Very limited access to the library and reading room services

5. No common room allotted for co-ed academic activities (both girls and boys studying together)

6. Subpar infrastructure of this apartment

7. No access to air conditioners

8. Random electricity and power cuts

9. Students endure extreme heat during power cuts

10. Food delivery problems

11. No emergency medical facilities available

12. Major safety issues of girls

13. Disturbance due to trains and their incessant horns

14. Wi-Fi problems

15. Residents creating problems in day-to-day activities

16. Restrictive hostel in-timings

17. Insects infestation, and related health issues (instances of students contracting malaria and dengue have been recorded)

There are several other concerns which we are willing to expand on and put forth directly to the administration and the relevant authorities. We request an audience of all relevant authorities for the same.

We hope the university will do the right thing and honour the representations made to us. Thank you for your urgent attention to this matter

I have done internship for 2 months of real estate and 6 months of Litigation and Arbitration. I want to explore any other practice areas. Currently I'm in the final year in Mumbai college which has no placements. Which area should I apply and which firm ?

I am confused which practice to choose. Kindly help

Ps: Applied to 30-40 firms, no acceptances yet. Where should I apply ?

No, you ignoramus. The education in NLUs isn't governed by the state government. All NLUs have got Executive Councils and Academic Councils, which contain representatives from the state, Centre, Bar, Bench, BCI and UGC. If anything, BCI is the party to be blamed for the fall of education standards, since it is the one that provides accreditation to any university providing undergraduate legal education. It is also supposed to periodically visit these places and it collects fees for that. While never doing its job. Any body headed by the likes of Manan Mishra does not have any locus or ability to discuss quality of legal education. As for your INIs, nobody other than you speaks about them, because they never offered quality legal education to begin with, your sad PR notwithstanding.

Lawyers are professionals, unlike any businessman. Business is for generations, hardwork of one generation will play a significant role in development of the family / society. Business is about consolidating the existing market share.

Eg - After retirement, you may not know anything about Harish Salve's practice or firm. However, Zerodha would be controlled by any family member of Kamath family, they will add on to the business revenue. Salve's revenue/fees will stop as soon as he retires.

Why do you say that GPT was around since 1980s?

IIRC, the 'T' in GPT and by that I mean the specific type of T used in GPTs (you can read up for yourself what the T is) was introduced for the very first time in 2017. It was only after this invention, that GPT, as a concept and as a working model, was introduced for the first time by OpenAI in 2018. Infact all the people behind the 2017 invention are founders of leading AI unicorn startups today.

If GPT even as a concept would have been introduced around 1980s then the entire software industry would have been different today. Infact Intel would have focused more GPUs instead of CPUs as the scaling up of GPTs requires more and more GPUs.

https://www.indialegallive.com/top-news-of-the-day/news/law-colleges-universities-bar-council-india/

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/education/news/bar-council-of-india-calls-for-stricter-measures-to-uphold-legal-education-standards/articleshow/109387688.cms

https://www.hindustantimes.com/education/news/bar-council-urges-higher-education-institutes-state-governments-to-uphold-sanctity-of-legal-education-101713416328771.html

BCI writes to state governments (their respective Departments of Education) about the fall in the quality of legal education. It urges state governments to be very prudent in approving new law colleges and their affiliation. As expected, the note is only for the state governments and state universities. It covers state NLUs that are mushrooming now. It excludes national universities that are INIs (obviously).

Couldn't emphasize it enough. If team has lot of work then try to be available and help as much as possible.

If team doesn't have work then be smart and don't stand on heads of all partners and associates. Be there nice dressed arrive early and go late basics. Be nice to everyone in such cases. Nobody will produce work for you as an intern especially when all interns can do is ten percent of the work.

Both ways lead to similar outcomes mostly that is PPO. Rmember they're looking for reliable smart students to take as A0s. Make sure you come as one.

Some moderation is good imo. Imagine a platform like Reddit, which by default allows all comments and there is an inability to edit posts (you can just delete as a mod), and someone starts naming someone else (maybe maliciously). Nothing will work and such fallout wouldnt be contained.

A similar argument was put forward that Microsoft word would take over the job of all lawyers and writers in the 2000's, but did it do the same ? technology perhaps has always been a medium of making life easier and in no way can it ever replace humans except in menial tasks like keyboard smashing all day. In that case I assume, it would be better that AI replaces people.
also the argument that arises everywhere nowadays that AI is gonna take over the world is mostly baseless bull crap and are mere marketing tactics and investment strategies. I would assume in our lifetimes in no way would AI be able to aptly replace any job and on the flip side would always be a medium to only make work easier
there is a reason why lawyers and the judiciary have been around for the pass 1000 years

Cap marks isn't one. As a cap marks lawyer, I would strongly warn you against one if you want a stable job. It is one of the most volatile practice area. Some months you would be swamped with work (3-4 in a year). After that, it's a lull. It is also one of the most mind numbingly boring area in a field that's very boring in general in the initial few years. It is also my personal opinion that capmarks lawyers are the ones easiest to replace with AI.