I think there is a lot of incentive tbh and looking around I see people warming up to the idea of tech in law. Obviously there will also be a manual check due to the stakes involved but the rate of work happening will increase exponentially specially when it comes to grunt work. (For eg - while preparing DRHP when a company is going public, drafting etc).

Hello Folks,

I have gotten in contact with a PA who's an alumni from my college. My question is how effective is a PA's reference for an internship (assessment or otherwise) at CAM. For reference, I am a final year student from a non-NLU. I just want to know if I should have any hopes or not with this contact. Thanks for answering!

Hi, I assume most of the responses will be useless here so let me respond. As an A0 in the gen corp, pe/vc team, I am tasked to do the following:

1. First cuts of term sheets, MOUs and transaction documents (SHA, SSA, SPA, etc.). Then once the SA reviews my first cut he’ll mostly have ballon comments for me. I am supposed to resolve this and make changes accordingly. Add 1-2 more rounds of back and forth between me and the SA. Then the SA will finalise, I will proofread and it will go the Partner.

2. Due diligence. You will be allotted chapters for which u will be responsible

BIG BREAKING: DYC has nominated Sanjiv Khanna to succeed him. He will have a tenure of 6 months. So it is Khanna who will have a role in the VC selection. This is a BIG development because he is a no-nonsense and honest judge like his father was. Won’t allow himself to be steamrolled and will insist on a merit-based appointment.

https://www.news18.com/india/cji-dy-chandrachud-successor-sanjiv-khanna-cji-sources-chief-justice-of-india-9088718.html

Does anyone have any genuine information ? With an LLM can I do a PhD in IIT in an interdisciplinary research ? I'm not talking about iitkgp which has a law phd. I'm taking about iitd, iitb, iitg etc where there is research project for ai and policy. They do not require a btech or mtech.

Hi, a few questions regarding setting up your own independent practice

- Which practice areas can one focus on so as to work independently in the future

- By what age should you go independent

- If you're an independent practitioner then how did you build your client base

Thankyou

Idk if everyone should follow it or not but I personally never go to BD meetings with the prejudice of it being BD. The whole meeting gets cringe when you constantly hear the other person just sell themselves "we can do this for you xyz, take care of this xyz".

Instead of this I actually go with the view of making a friend who's gonna ask maybe 10 legal questions and maybe months later would actually require my help in enforcing one of those.

Then NLS should stop claiming the national character of this institution because clearly it is a state university. How many of your lot respect the language and culture of the states you migrate to? I have always seen you guys insisting on communicating in English with local vendors in North Indian cities even though you clearly know that people from lower strata can't communicate. Even then many localities in North Indian cities try their best to help with their broken English. Can't say the same about Karnataka.

It's a travesty really, now that NLSIU is being arm twisted to grant 50 percent reservation to localities by Bangalore University for grant of land. Shows how jingoists have been trying to capture this beautiful institution. I just wish Central government took enough initiative to nurture our NLS, maybe more funding. atleast we could have saved it from state politics and jingoists. This is why a lot of alums wanted Institute of Eminence tag for NLS but the state govt. meddled in that too.

Seniors don't deserve respect from juniors. And if a senior is bothered a junior he must take appropriate steps like complaint protocols. Not go out and mentally torture people. What do you mean by salutations. What salutations you require you price of ragging defending insolent

No, I am a Law School alumnus and someone disgusted at the antics of GNLU students who are trying to 'profit' out of a batchmate's death. These are the reasons why most students from your university aren't really considered a class act regardless of their achievements. Please start doing better.

In the halls of glass and steel so high,

Where ambition soars and souls run dry,

An associate, a friend, fell, unheard, unseen,

And life went on like it had always been.

Two partners passed with cold, blank eyes,

No whispered prayers, no heavy sighs.

The Senior Associate and HR, with concern so wide,

Plays nice now, but the mask belied.

The whispers cut through their thin façade,

For everyone knew, behind the charade—

In this kingdom of billable hours and fees,

Compassion’s currency falls to its knees.

Let the people know.

Slow moderation. That is it. If you post a query/look forward to a discussion on a post, you can be sure that you’ll have to wait at least a day before some conversation has been posted by the moderators. And even then content is heavily redacted. Some comments are not posted altogether - for what reason? Violates guidelines? Or simply because the LI Mods are too lazy?

This platform should be moved to Reddit and that should be the end of it. Not like LI and Kian are doing anything worthwhile with the rest of LI as is. If only, just resume the moot tracker! I miss the LI of early 2010s.

AI tools reduce junior lawyers' workload in document review and drafting. While It can free junior lawyers for more strategic work, do you think tech adoption remains slow among senior lawyers in India?

All this can seriously help in reducing repetitive tasks in general.

What would be some uses for a powerful legal ai - what does Jurisphere, Sarvam actually solve?

I swear it’s like half of you on this forum don’t realise which profession you’re in. Of course law firm partners would be slow to trust and adopt new technologies of any kind. They are lawyers, they do work with really big stakes, they don’t want to lose money or lose their clients money because they placed trust in tech earlier than they should have.

As little as ten years ago people were still turning in hardcopy submissions to term papers in law school- think about how low stakes that situation is and how much law world was still slow to adapt.

A person with decent coding skills could figure out most due diligence tasks in a short amount of time. But we still don’t do that because the stakes are too high.

AI is coming to the legal profession , but muuuch slower than people expect. The incentives are just not there to take a chance on tech that’s very new and whose reliability is not established.

When it comes - a lot of young lawyers will find it very hard to keep their salaries.

Hi everyone, I am a final-year law student currently at a tier 3 private college. I am academically strong as I am the topper of my course. I have an interest in Corporate Law and IPR. Currently, I am doing a 6-month internship at a boutique firm specializing in IPR. I have strong drafting skills related to trademarks and can draft almost all legal documents pertaining to it. This internship will end in December 2024. I have also secured one-month internships at Anand and Anand, Lex Orbis, K&S Partners, and Remfry & Sagar for different months. The firm where I am doing my 6-month internship has offered to absorb me, but since it is a boutique firm, their pay will be lower.

Please advise whether I should continue with the boutique firm after the 6-month internship or if I should try to intern at these tier 1 IPR firms. Which should I choose? Also, if there are people working in these firms, could you please tell me the chances of these firms offering a PPO or if there are any vacancies for fifth-year students?

I'm an A2 at a tier 1 law firm. My thesis is that junior lawyers will be spared the mindless/ mechanical/ grunt/ administrative work and will be given the opportunity to do more intellectually stimulating work within a few months of starting out as lawyers.

Which is the most annoying day to day task(s) you wish AI would help you with? (And any AI that you are already using so it can help others)

P.S - After interacting with Indian partners, I think that a large number of them don't believe in technology so that is also there.

read this book called the trusted advisor. Golden rule is not to be just a lawyer but a trusted advisor. In my experience, I have seen that successful lawyers don't just give legal advice but are willing to help the client with anything which they can help with. As lawyers, we have amazing contacts. Successful lawyers never hesitate to use those to help out their clients.

This article is a few months old, but I am sharing it in light of recent tragic events in our law schools and other colleges. The article says: "Technology and social media have led to an epidemic of isolation and loneliness."

From what I have heard, during our parent's time in college people used to have more physical interactions. There was no concept like online gaming or Instagram. So maybe that made them less depressed? Maybe there is some medical reason due to which the human brain gets less depressed when interacting with people physically?

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/28/young-adults-are-unhappy-than-ever-but-dont-just-blame-social-media.html

Agreed. I’ve known this team for some time. Rishab was able to assemble a very strong bunch of people and then he decided to go into counsel practice. Some of the team members including Kartikey left around the time Rishab was leaving, while others decided to stay back. Ultimately each of them made their own decision. I wish all of them best of luck. Rishab’s dream was to build a world class international arbitration practice and I hope his former team becomes the nourishing ground for global arbitration leaders.

I am a third year student, and I really want to study FEMA. However, there is not enough material on FEMA or guidance on how to start studying it. How should I study FEMA? Please suggest some sources, including commentaries, e-sources, or any other resources to become well versed in FEMA.

I work with a corp team at a boutique firm. Get to attend CEO level client calls with my partner and SA as an A0 and am Generally asked for my opinion on almost everything ( “Do you have anything to add?”). I sign in at 10:15 everyday and log off at around 7. Haven’t really had to work any weekends in the last 4 months and its all WFH. There will also be an offsite soon and pay is what promising T2s are paying (8-9LPA ballpark). Maybe i lucked out.

Have worked in Rishabh's team but have since left. This is bullshit. He's the best boss I've ever had. The only reason I left was because I didn't have a foreign qualification and MRP does no Indian work. Rishabh was patient and kind with people who gave a shit about their work.

Be a professor. If you can become a prof in a top NLU then you will have to teach around 6-8 hours/week. Even if you need around 20 hours to prepare for those 6-8hours, the total working hours would be less than 30 hours/week. Throw in some miscellaneous work like research, consults, checking submissions, etc and it should go up to 40-45hours/week max and fully flexible.

Is sawaal and iss situtation se nipatne ka jawab mai pehli bhi ek baari de chuka hu, fir se de deta hu:)

Apna best effort maarne ka, 100% dene ka, Ek baar draft bhej diya, fir stress nahi lene ka,

Mistake sabse hota hai, tere senior se bhi hota hai, and tere partner se toh definitely hota hai,

Honest truth is ki ye sab mistakes karke hi wo partner ban paaya hai.

Please do not be discouraged in any manner if you are making mistakes,

Unfortunately, these mistakes and the guilt associated with it when we realise our mistakes are the meagre cost we pay for the valuable experience we gain on what is it that is not to be done the next time,

Over a period of time, you will have a truckload of wisdom on things that you know are not to be done (which you would have learnt through your experiences), and when you implement this wisdom day in and day out, your drafts will have all the right things it's supposed to have, enhancing it's quality automatically. You will be able to grow at twice the speed if you are also able to learn from the experience of others.

Please get out of this mindset that perfection is a destination you're supposed to reach. Real achievement is in improving yourself (even in the minutest of proportions) on a daily basis.

A right senior will guide you in understanding your mistakes and help you learn from them. He will never berate you or insult you for your shortcomings. I had a senior who was very tough on me and pulled me up for the smallest of my mistakes and made sure I learnt from them and never repeated it, while it did seem harsh then, he only wished the best for me which I realised later. Today when I'm extra careful and double check my work before sending it to anyone, all I have is gratitude for him. Because ignorance of smaller mistakes is the guaranteed highway to irreparable fuck-ups.

Make mistakes (not intentionally and carelessly) and please learn from them and never repeat the same one again. Make newer mistakes the next time. And if you've made a mistake, accept the responsibility for it (Just like Goldy Bhai does:))

Cheers!

I put all my eggs in 2-3 baskets, nothing worked out. As a non-NLU grad, I am finding it difficult to start again and apply to firms/policy orgs with personalized CV and sample work and follow-up persistently. Do you think I should give CLAT PG while somehow recovering from loop of procrastination or should I look towards competitive exams? What about start-ups such as SAMA, do you think it is better to explore such options while simultaneously preparing for competitive exams? Questions such as "What you are doing" are becoming difficult to face.

I write for a policy think tank in then HR section. I have been advised to choose one stream of research for my policy work in a think tank. It's between digital crisis i.e privacy, big data, surveillance, AI etc VS. environment crisis i.e water conflicts, waste disposal, e-waste management, air pollution etc.

Digital crisis is the new trend, so every tom, dick and harry are writting on it. Environment has been the trend for the last century, so every tom,dick and harry have written on it. Both are problems of the present and future.

To clarify; My master's was focused on digital rights, whereas my PhD was in ground water management. So I have experience in both topics. I enjoyed researching both. But now for a job I have to choose one.

As you can see, both are important issues, however both have a wide range of study and research. I can only choose one to write about for the next 4-5 years. Which should I choose ? How do I decide ?

Based on what I’ve seen in the past 1 year, I can safely say that the below are the approximate numbers for partners compensation who are not founders. All the figures below are pre-tax.

1. Fresh Salaried Junior Partner: 80L - 1.2 crores PA.

2. Salaried Partner with experience: 1.5 - 2.5 crores PA. (Yes, salaried partners working in teams with high volume deals make upwards of 2.5 crores)

3. Fresh equity partner: 3 crores (Minimum) upto 4.5 crores.

4. Senior Partners: 5 - 8 crores.

5. Practice Heads: 8-10 crores PA.

6. Rainmakers: 15 crores + (Remember that this bracket constitutes a minuscule percentage of lawyers)

The eligibility criteria says that one has to have 4 years of practice before the one-year training with AOR.

I got enrolled in 2017.

2017-18: No Appearances [corporate law team]

2018-19: No Appearances [corporate law team]

2019-20: Appearances [Arbitration team and a bit of litigation]

2020-21: Appearances [Arbitration team and a bit of litigation]

2021-22: No appearances [did only arbitration]

2022-23: Appearances [Litigation team]

2023-24: No appearances [Career break]

2024-25: Still on a career break- plan to join somewhere this December

If I work under an AOR now for 1 year, will I be eligible to write the 2026 exam?