that's because SLS Pune is pretty old, older than when NLUs came into existence and good legal education wasn't common. That isn't the case anymore with the rise of NLUs. We all know what the placement scenes have been like in T-1 NLUs v SLSP in the past 10 years. So give it a bit more time to see them fade away eventually.

There's no guarantee you'll get college, the CLAT paper has been made to be so easy in the past two years 2024 and 2025 that the average marks scored for the top 500 ranks has been around 95, only expected to go up this year. don't count your chickens before they hatch. Don't lose out of alternatives until you are sure that you have the seat with you through the official allotment list

Posts like these show that you all have never taken up economics in your whole life.

GDP is a flow measure for the total value of goods and services produced within a country over a specific period—how much the economy is producing within that time frame.

Wealth (or net worth) is a stock measure, which represents the total value of assets owned by individuals or entities at a specific point in time.

Even if the wealth of the top 1% were removed, this wouldn’t automatically decrease GDP, because the wealth itself is not being actively spent or generated in the economy on a day-to-day basis—it's an accumulation of past resources.

The wealthiest Indians may have significant assets, but these assets don't directly equate to the economic output measured by GDP. You are drawing an equal betweem wealth and economic output, which is fundamentally incorrect. India's GDP would still stand at 3.5 trillion dollars even if Adani were to personally go bankrupt (Adani himself, not his group of companies since they have a contribution to the GDP).

For the love of God, please read up more on economic and financial concepts. You all are/going to be corp lawyers lol.

Please tell me how studying politics of smell in novels contributes in any substantial way toward improving the world. We do not need to ape every aspect of western education. We can learn from them how to enforce rigor and integrity in law schools. At the same time we should avoid the overproduction of elites who do not study anything of substance and only enter academia to lead subsidised lives and cater to more and more esoteric academic interests. All the while driving up the cost of education. We have enough real problems in our country that deserve attention in academia we do not need to encourage our brightest minds to study intersectional queer theory in underwater basket weaving.

According to me, giving the designation of senior advocate to Tier 1 law firm partners is interesting. Really opens up the field. Law firms now deal with some of the most complex legal questions not just in the commercial domain but also in the constitutional domain. I’m actually waiting for Tejas Karia’s elevation to get confirmed. I don’t know Gyanendra but since Delhi is probably the court with the greatest competition for seniority, this speaks volumes about the guy’s competence or clout, don’t know which.

I guess the requirements for a retirement savings fund for a 40-year old would be as follows?

- MINIMUM 15 crore in 2025 (double if married and with child)

- MINIMUM 20 crore in 2030 (double if married and with child)

- MINIMUM 25 crore in 2040 (double if married and with child)

Possible to have this much saved?

You say a "lakh a month" like that is something that's only offered in law firms. The salary of a civil judge lower division is also close to a lakh a month. There are multiple other legal jobs that offer more than a lakh a month yet give you a certain work life balance. Find some other excuse will ya?

As a recent law graduate joining the profession on December 5th, I'm confronting a deeply troubling situation. During my onboarding, I was unexpectedly asked to sign a contractual agreement that includes submitting a blank cheque. This request is not only unethical but potentially illegal, especially in the legal profession where we are supposed to uphold professional standards.

The demand feels like a blatant exploitation of a fresher's vulnerable position. This experience, combined with previous unprofessional behaviors like ghosting and inappropriate communication, has left me seriously questioning my career path in law.

I'm genuinely considering leaving the legal field if such exploitative tactics are normalized.

Part 1 - https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/406802-Thinking-of-Resigning-

See, as an A0 it's really hard to get into Banking and Finance because there are just not enough vacancies at A0 level. Good firms fill them up with Day 0 hires who have no idea what they are doing. That's why there's always vacancies A1 onwards.

However all is not lost, I would do the following if i was in your position:

1. Get at least one good banking related article/blog in a reputable place like India corplaw/cbcl.

2. Start connecting to b&f partners and associates on LinkedIn to see what sort of work they are doing, who is in which team etc.

3. Try targeting Tier 2 firms first so you can learn the ropes of b&f. Phoenix, juris corp, Wadia Ghandy, Indus are good places to learn.

4. Leverage those to get to and impress bigger b&f teams that hire A0s. Manisha Shroff (Khaitan), Leena Chacko (CAM), Abir Dey (Saraf), Anand Shah (AZB) etc.

5. Don't waste your time with JSA, TTA, SAM, Trilegal as they won't hire 99% of the time.

6. If everything fails, try to intern at Tier 2 places in your last semester. Phoenix, Wadia Ghandy, KLaw, SNG, Juris Corp, Samvad, Dentons are good options and hire A0s regularly.

7. You'll be able to move to a T1 within 1-2 years easily after that so do not despair. Remember it's a marathon not a sprint.

All the best!

It is great that you were willing to dictate and i understand your point of expressing that detail but just a tip for next time, audio writing has been introduced in a lot of popular softwares. You may want to utilise that instead. Probably wont even make the mistakes your junior might

Probably controversial but I am of the opinion that work life balance and meeting up with client's needs can very well be coordinated. One can stay overtime to do the work but not every day or week. that's something that a lot of influenced people are forgetting or ignoring. Extremities are not warranted in each situation

Are you living under a rock? Rohinton Fali nariman, Siddharth luthra, Geeta luthra, Pinki Anand, Arun Jaitley, Raain karanjanwala, Sanjay kishan kaul, Chandranchud, Gopal subramanium, Neeraj Kishan Kaul are few such great seniors who lawyers and judges who went to CLC. The list is just way too long and the a single lawyer like Neeraj kishan kaul mogs the likes of Gopal Sankarnarayan and Maneka guruswamy combined.

I don't think so you practice, anyone claiming CLC didn't give great lawyers and jurists can either be a laymen or some law firmite.

How the hiring process works at SAM Mumbai, especially given its reputation as one of the leading Tier 1 firms in India.

What are the key qualities or skills they prioritize when selecting candidates, especially freshers? Do they weigh internships with top firms or specific types of academic achievements more heavily, or do they look for other factors like leadership experience, extracurricular activities, or even the candidate's ability to network and build client relationships?

Also, is there a preference for candidates from certain law schools, or is their approach more holistic and inclusive compared to other Tier 1 firms? For those who’ve been through their recruitment process or know someone who has, any insights into how SAM Mumbai distinguishes itself in terms of what they value in a hire would be super helpful!

If I want to pursue a PhD just for the sake of getting one for a promotion to associate level, should I do it from a tier 3 NLU ? I am guaranteed to clear the exam, but I feel it might cause problems later on in my career. Or should I opt for tier 1 NLUs only. Anyone please advice.

Hey everyone! I’ve been curious about something and thought this would be the best place to ask. When it comes to hiring at Tier 1 law firms in India, there seems to be a noticeable preference for NLU students over non-NLU students. Is this because of the difference in the pedagogy or the exposure they receive during their course, or are there other factors at play?

Do things like alumni networks, internships, or brand value of NLUs make that much of a difference? Or is it just a bias that has developed over time in the legal industry? Would love to hear your thoughts, especially if you’ve experienced or observed this difference firsthand.

Don't think Covid had anything to do with any mental health crisis, unless it was brought on by self by immersing in all the problems by focusing only on that and giving up any possibility of growing by doing something better with time.

Secondly, you're forgetting K&E happens to lack WLB but tops firms list. No one likes excess work, despite whatever may be your beliefs.

And lastly, since you like all the boundaries etc, why do you get worked up when the shoe is on other foot, say the food delivery is late (since the delivery person chose to drive safe and slow, instead of getting all antsy about delivering you your parcel immediately) or thousand other such cases. Why you start ranting in any forum you can find in such cases? Look in mirror my friend.

This is most stupid thing to say mca is most hyped cell of the college I myself tried to be part of the organisation since done a lot to be part of mca but I was not that fortunate, for mca whole batch gives interview and smartest people get in.

Second reason for mca people getting good rank in freshers pool could be that because mca is cell with lot of work related to reviewing and conducting regular open challenge inside college but it is always short with no. Of people so people from 1st year get ample amount of time to learn from being either court cleark. And other than that when who are in close community with the best mooters of college then it really helps.

Guys don't Panic you are new I can say Nliu is pretty fair in these aspects.

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Any basis to this or wishful thinking? Is the US Deep State out to depose Modi and using Adani as a whipping boy, or is the BJP overreacting?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bjp-targets-rahul-gandhi-alleging-george-soros-link-congress-cries-foul-7178010#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/rahul-soros-ek-hai-bjp-hits-back-at-oppositions-modi-adani-ek-hai-slogan/amp_articleshow/116004376.cms

Am I? If that’s the case, then you are definitely someone who barely managed to get through to senior years based on his/her low IQ. To be fair, if you look at it, your finalists are not even in top 5, let alone top 3. You know who is tho? That one finalist who is in MCA. I can give you numerous examples. There were two teams in the semis, the one who lost was arguably better than the one who had THE MCA member from your holy reign. These are just two examples. Want me to continue? I have nothing against them, they might be really sweet people. But there are participants who deserve much better. MCA has been a shitfuckery and everyone knows it, I ain’t the OP but your centre or ‘association’ rather, is not even close to the other centres/cells that were mentioned above. So please take the blame and improve, a lot of college’s reputation depends on the MCA, amongst other aspects like publications and corporation. Be better.

And fyi, these seniors are really pissed with the results. Ask around. It won’t take much time.

TMT is an interesting practice area but long hours is the norm across all good TMT teams - TRILEGAL, KHAITAN, INDUS all have long working hours. Since it is advisory work partners take up more mandates to reach their targets and hence maintain the bonuses. You will have to choose between mundane work or an interesting arena where you get to learn up new things in an upcoming field.

I don't know why we need such elaborate campuses. The building should just contain classrooms, faculty offices and admin offices. There should be a library. (this can all be one multi story building). Let students figure out accommodation themselves and commute to campus. We can also solve the ragging problem this way.

How do you decide talent , there is no objective criteria rather than organising a competition, if you are so good, contest an OC and win, people who are actually good don't cry over such events, because they perform well and get good ranks, on the other hand when someone is incompetent, they blame the OC for the loss. Lol get a life or you'll lose every other competition here. Competition is very fierce.

Lol, you are definitely a first year, nobody is surprised, although they will tell you that, so that you don't mourn over your loss and get some relief that ohhh... I didn't perform bad, the organisation was bad, it's just to cheer you up after not being able to score good ranks due to your incompetency.

What’s to happen to this team now that he’s left upon designation as Senior Advocate? Will they all be spread to different partners? Heard his team runs on its own so there may be difficulty with working with different partners. Full disclosure - applied to him for Senior Associate position. Not sure what will be the fate of my application.

See this summary by Sonia Shenoy: https://www.instagram.com/p/DDMZgnKtvxt/?img_index=1

For me, the most shocking stat is this -- the per capita GSP drops from the current USD 2400 (around Bangladesh level) to USD 1,900 (around sub-Saharan African level) if you hit the top 1%. And I guess if you exclude the top 5% we will probably rank close to last in the world???!!! So I blame Nirmala Sitharaman for the recent drop. Her taxes on short-term capital gains and refusal to give IT slab relief have reduced consumption by the top 1 to 5%, who are the engine of the economy.

I've always wondered, how are law firms srtuctured? I guess an LLP makes sense given easier complaince minus unlimited liability which is what one of the XAMs is. But then, what exactly does making "partner" mean. Is it only a notional title or is there real profit sharing?

It appears that an actual "equity" partner is inly a member of the family and the rest of them are only partners nominally and not a part of the partnership agreement. Is that an accurate characterisation? Are they merely employees? Is there a difference between equity partners and the rest?

Also, how do "employees" (i.e., associates, for instance) pay Income Tax? Do they pay tax as professionals and do they have to do the whole advance tax rigmarole? So are they not then employees per se? Will non-legal roles like HR in a law firm be on a different pedestal where they will be employees instead?

Do Corp law firm associates thrn file tax in exactly the same way that an advocate would? Would they get PF?

thank you, unfortunately the provisional answer key has royally screwed me over. 90.75, which will increase to 94 or so because of a few blatantly incorrect answers. could go as high as 98, but i doubt consortium will give up its ego. really sad right now, hopefully final answer key is a saving grace.

JSA is very top heavy now, most EP's or RP's rake in huge numbers while associates get paid way less. Their fixed is really really low and the 8% is very situational. 8% depends upon your teams billing, your hours (which would be cut if they dont like you), the deals that year and their invoicing. The 8% also is a sham, to an extent, because 8% of what you have billed will always be lesser than your hours posted on your timesheets, so it comes to roughly about 1.25 to 2.5LPA. The WLB is also not always great, in slower months, its good otherwise its just bad like any other place. Unless your team is good and they really like you, you will not be matching T1 pay. Only a handful of teams have that pull and even inside those teams, there is discrepancy in work allotment. The work culture isnt also that great, its not toxic as in people wont micromanage or shout or have unreasonable expectations, but it still has politics, groupism, insider-outsiders, and generally also, the work quality is very very very partner determined. So, take it as a grain of salt. JSA is good for two kinds of people, (1) people who have been in T1s but have toxic or dead teams, (2) counsels and partners who are not doing well in T1s. For associate level, not really worth it, unless your main issue is toxicity in your team.

Are any of the TMT teams worth it in reference to money. Most TMT teams do bulk of advisory work with long working hours. Is the money earned in these teams any good or is corporate better given that you are anyway working long hours - at least you get to earn more?

Please advise. Need to choose between gen corp or TMT practice.

Could it be that the bad quality of CLAT 2024 ended up selecting masses of mediocres into NLS. And since there's more of them than earlier (2024 increased seats big time), bo'29 is having more weight in the discourse. And therefore, the SBA is under pressure to kowtow to this group? Like the local politician who panders to populist demands of numerically larger groups in exchange for the gaddi?

And hence (absence of) room cleaning, physiotherapy and buses to airport are the top revolutionary ideas that's agitating NLS?

Hi, I am about to graduate from law school and looking for a career in trade law. Eventually i want to go for masters. Now, looking for options. Either Law Firm or any policy place. I have heard that CTIL is a great place for policy, build CV and apply for LLM. Some long back thread on LegallyIndia stated that its great place to work at. Any views ?

I am considering quitting my current job as I am unable to continue in this environment. I have interviewed at 2-3 places but have not received any responses yet. please suggest what steps I can take to improve my chances or explore better opportunities as I cannot survive here.