Yes it is true. However we do know where these kids go after jgls. Most of the students who comes to jgls wants the perks of having partnership woth foreign universities and law firms.

Many jgls students go for a dual degree programme or LLM with the help of reference from their collage professors and other alumnis and get scholarship. OCS in jgls is mid but the alumni and the professors gives a huge advantage to the kids.

I do know that 100+ students would be unemployed but many of em go for family business too.

So yeah while the placement numbers seem bad, yet many students go abroad. Jgls is ranked high in QS ranking for law cuz of partnerships afterall.

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1. Madhava Menon: Opening batsman. An institution builder and great administrator. Set up the inning beautifully.

2. BS Chimni: Middle order. One of India's greatest legal scholars and someone with global standing. Continued Menon's tradition of having solid visitors and excellent people on the governing bodies. Not a hands-on administrator like Menon, but administrative skills are secondary when your opening batsman has got you off to an excellent start.

3. MP Singh: Middle order: Excellent administrator and a very respected scholar. Alum of Columbia University, many years of experience at DU. Hired Shamnad Basheer, Sudhir Krishnaswamy and many young scholars at the rank of Professor. Poached Sudhir (an Assistant Prof at NLSIU) and directly made him a professor, saving him 10 years of service. Same with Shamnad, who was still a PhD student. Many other good faculty hired: Sourav Bhattacharya (NALSAR-Michigan alum), Chinmayi Arun (NALSAR-LSE alum) etc etc. Encouraged tons of credit courses by alumni and guest faculty from law firms and industry. Gave full autonomy to SJA to decide these courses. The NUJS Law Review flourished under MP Singh and became India's top legal journal at the time. In the later years of his tenure, the TMC came to power. Mamata began by appointing her astrologer to the NUJS EC (see report below). MP Singh refused to accept this appointment and rejected all other types of interference from the TMC.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/mamata-banerjee-recommends-astrologist-nujs-executive-committee-nimai-banerjee-ready

Menon was like Gavaskar, Chimni was like Pujara or Dravid, Singh was like Tendulkar or Kohli.

After this, all VCs were appointed under the TMC: Ishwara Bhat, Amit Talukdar, NK Chakraborty and now Nandimath. Don't need to comment further. I will only encourage people to compare the composition of the NUJS governing bodies then and now. 🙏

Yes, thank you. This really helps and gives me a clearer idea of how one should be. I will definitely work on it. Initially, I was a bit hesitant because I felt my people skills were not strong enough, but with the right mindset, continuous practice, and understanding how to manage stress, I believe, I can put myself in a better position.

Hi,

I have a PPO at a specialised team of a T1 firm I received last year and will be joining in July. Due to family reasons, I would like to shift my location to live closer to home, but I am worried about making such a request because of my team. Does anyone have any tips/experience with this?

Been building vaquill.ai, its free for law students, lawyers or literally anyone who needs it.

It has got inline citations for each line of AI answer, opens official judgement copy and highlights the paragraph, better than SCC Manupatra boolean keyword research and citation graphs (who cites what and when).

If there are folks creating legaltech tool, please reach out, I can help you with research thing.

I don't think an openly homosexual woman would find a lot of mass appeal in an Indian context. The real India is very different from the elitist linkedin bubble and the LI crowd. Wait till the BJP picks up on this and starts exploiting. I know this is going to be down voted or marked as trollish, but the reality is not the utopia we imagine.

Not surprised at all. Civil services are a much bigger craze in North India (UP, Rajasthan, Bihar, and Haryana), with Delhi being the pivot. People here yearn for social prestige and authority, with a deep 'lal-batti' culture ingrained in their DNA.

Barring rare exceptions, for a young person in Bangalore or Kolkata, civil services is NOT the default career choice.

Currently working in a chamber of established lawyer in MPHC having almost 4 Years PQE. The work here is majorly Civil, Criminal Litigation, Service disputes. I have a good exposure of Litigation. Regular appearances in Courts, Drafting High stakes pleadings, Replies, Written Submissions. Assisted Senior advocates in Court, Been praised for my drafting's by Judges, Senior Advocates. I also have limited independent practise primarily Service disputes, Small arbitration matters under the NHAI Act, Assisting educational institutes in matters relating to disaffiliation etc, Bail matters. I have worked closely with prosecution in P.C Act. Family disputes. TBH the work here I do is giving me decent recognition compared to my fellow collegues who are equally excellent. Its just the money which is coming slow because of which my other plans are getting delayed. Therefore I was thinking to switch to Law firm practice. Preferrably in disputes team. However I don't know from where to start, whom to reach out. Is it possible to get into TIER1/2 Law firm with past litigation experience?

AIR 1 - Anuj Agnihotri (General)

AIR 2 - Rajeshwari Suve M (General) AIR 3 - Akansh Dhull (General) AIR 4 - Raghav Jhunjhunwala (General) AIR 5 - Ishan Bhatnagar (General) AIR 6 - Zinnia Aurora (General) AIR 7 - A R Rajah Mohaideen (General) AIR 8 - Pakshal Secretry (General) AIR 9 - Astha Jain (General) AIR 10 - Ujjwal Priyank (General)

BALLB alumni from NLSIU and NALSAR are very snooty and like to gatekeep who is an alumni or not. The fact is that any certificate with a university crest qualifies you as alumni. It can be long distance also.

Some BALLB alumni from NLSIU and NALSAR are so snooty that they don’t even recognise LLM and PhD graduates as alumni.

Write it down: if President’s rule is imposed, the BJP will win hands down. Millions of Muslims have been deleted: doesn’t matter if they are legal or illegal, they are the core votebank of the TMC. An election where the Hindu vote significantly outnumbers the Muslim vote, coupled with the BJP’s control of the state administration, will hand the BJP an emphatic victory.

NLUD— killing it as usual. 😎 Second-best overall after NLSIU and possibly first if your counting year is from 2015 onwards.

There was a post asking if any other NLU alumni in match famous NLSIU alumni. Watch out for the NLUD alumni in the UPSC. They are your future ambassadors, secretaries, and possibly future ministers after retirement.

1. Excellent news! Huge congratulations to the mentioned persons.

2. Adding to the list... Akshat Baldwa (AIR 173) of NLSIU is also to be added to the list of law students successful at this. His achievement is of particular significance, because of his complete blindness and his having navigated, despite that, a system which is structurally ableist and hostile to the disabled.

NB: Not from NLSIU at all - indeed, I didn't even attend an NLU. Just a blind law student highlighting the journey of a fellow blind person whom I hugely admire.

3. Is it known if any of these persons is likely to join the foreign service? Akshat would sure as hell get in with 173 - or am I being too sure of all this? NB: Don't jump on me, my knowledge of UPSC is very limited.

I am from a Non NLU (a well known college in my state, it mostly unknown outside). I have mediocre grades, 2 publications but 4 really good internships at 3 law firms including a callback. Currently I don't have a PPO at hand. What should I do, if I want to work at a law firm?

Can I intern at a T1 after graduation or become a paralegal? How is the job market?

Meanwhile, some interesting stats from social

media:

- Top ranks prima facie dominated by general category (upper castes and a few non-OBC Muslims)

- The three most common surnames to crack the exams are apparently Jain, Yadav and Meena. Nos 2 and 3 prima facie means that caste reservation in India is being dominated by just a few castes from the Hindi belt. No 1 means (assuming they all follow Jainism) that a tiny minority religious community in the general category is excelling much more than others (if they are not all Jains, that is still is an impressive stat).

He has a PGDL in media law from NALSAR. We should not refer to him as an alum and he should not list NALSAR as his primary university on social media. This is not comparable to Menaka Guruswamy and NLSIU.

If you look at his LinkedIn profile carefully, he did his graduation from St Xavier’s College and then did his LLB from “VU SLC”. I asked ChatGPT what that means. It replied Vishwakarma University, School of Law.

However, we can certainly refer to him as an NUJS guest lecturer, if he visits the college to teach credit courses.

I'd say its easier to just be rude at work since you're going to quit anyway. DGAF about what he thinks, behave like you have nothing to lose, since its really true.

If PA crosses a boundary call PA out and warn PA not to do it again, in front of the entire office. Bullies hate being confronted for bullying and will back off, and the public humiliation will provide you more satisfaction than any thrashing.

If I may be permitted to offer some advice, it would be to learn to be happy with yourself first. Approval of others and comparison with others will never make you truly happy. Your parents care for you and want you to see you do well. Hence, their genuine concern. If you show them you are happy, working hard and the long term future is good, they will trust you. Forget societal taunts. It never stops. Look at Elon Musk. He still gets trolled despite being filthy rich.

However, if your financial needs are truly massive right now (without paying heed to societal taunts) none of the above matters. We live in a world where money is not unimportant. Look to switch to a better law firm by getting referrals through friends. Your current firm is clearly not being fair to you.

And age… its all in the mind. I quit law for 7 years only to rejoin it at the age of 32 with barely a couple of years PQE under my belt. I am now an equity partner at 40. Not to say your life may turn out the same. Just try to find your space and most importantly your happiness. Everything else truly becomes irrelevant as you will come to realize later in life.

Corporate 1 and 8 are good in terms of mentoring, with the lean structure of the new Corporate 8 allowing a lot of exposure, but the WLB part is really questionable. On the other end, the mid-level heavy Corporate 7 is the best if you're joining at a junior level and want WLB and don't care about mentoring. Somehow on the other end again, Corporate 2 is great if you deem micromanagement mentoring - it does teach how to handle a lot, to be fair. Corporate 5 is largely the most balanced in terms of mentoring and a decent WLB (as long as you stay away from the obvious partner). Corporate 3 is also largely a balanced team, but a stickler for tiny things like office timing. ▮▮▮

As for the partners, there are some brilliant and understanding senior partners in almost every team, which is how the craziness is controlled generally.

I’m barely a kid. I’m very old actually. I don’t see the point of continuing this discussion. More persons than you have foreign degrees from elite institutions. I have one too. I earned mine because I was hungry for knowledge. I really like universities as spaces and I want Indian universities to be among the best of them. Expressing concerns about fairness in hiring process and pointing out that all that glitters is not gold is not the same thing as wanting mediocrity. You have some us v them victim stuff you should work through.

Do people who are interning with referrals convert/get a ppo? Or do they only give callbacks to the ones who intern without contacts? I’ve been told by the HR that kids who come in through referrals are not called back, but I know of some who absolutely were! Please enlighten me.

my team was super standoffish for some reason so i need to ask here. what’s the scene for a callback, the hr told me she would send feedback and let me know..? do they mail themselves, (if yes then, after how long) or do i have to request the hr on mail again? and what’s the timeline like?

This is the reason I left chamber litigation. I was the school topper, and by the third year of my litigation practice with a well standing AoR, I was earning 35k. I was 27 by then. I was so sick earning literally the least amount of money out of all my school peers, including the kids who barely even passed school. At that point, I was earning less than a school acquaintance of mine, who bloody dropped out of school and joined a BPO - he earned 75k. And I was dumbfounded. Numb. That day, I decided that this 10 year (and potentially longer) gestation period in individual/ chamber practice was not going to cut it for me. At all. I am not debating that a litigation lawyer will earn more per annum, in the longer run. But I was not ready to waste away my youth and my parents' last few fruitful years, waiting for this gold at the end of my rainbow. I decided to say fuck it. I dropped chamber litigation like a hot potato and joined a tier 3 litigation law firm. Within that firm, I transitioned to corporate law. Then I shifted to a tier 1 law firm. All this took a lot of hard work, but at least I was getting paid decently while doing the same hard work I was putting in at the chamber. I am now sitting at almost a crore in salary per annum at a tier 1 law firm. Ditching individual litigation was the best decision of my life. And I have never looked back. This path opened up so many doors for me, which I had not even contemplated while fully spent and busy in my shitty chamber life. I have the option to move abroad, move at a senior position in-house and what not. I earn more than anyone at my age in my entire extended family and friend circle. I am no longer that kid who people mocked as 'tu court ke bahar table lagakar toh nahi baith jaega na ha ha ha', but that uncle to whom people bring their kids for counselling. I mean, mostly, fuckem for making my life difficult earlier, but the point in case being - chamber litigation is definitely not for middle class kids with no family member working in law or with some other heavy-duty connections.

Chambers are structured only to benefit the lawyer in question and none of his juniors, and no one else. It is a losing proposition from the get go and is inherently structured as an exploitative setup. When I started as a chamber junior, my boss had the gall to pay his driver more than he paid me as my first salary (my first salary was 12k). It felt so derogatory, it broke me. My girlfriend at the time refused to marry me till I increased my salary. Man, what a tough time in life that was. You are not alone brother, keep your head down and your chin up. If you have half a brain and the will to work super hard, screw your chamber, screw your boss, join a law firm. Any law firm. You will thank me later. Screw UPSC, screw MBA screw everything else. Law firms are exploding, in size and number, and there is limitless, and (mostly) meritocratic potential in being a law firm lawyer today. Our profession is getting increasingly corporatized, just like the economy. Have fun while you are at it. You are still young, it is not too late, and you are not the only one feeling these feelings. There are many of us in the same boat. I really do believe, that it is the darkest before dawn. Hang in there.

Can someone working and well accustomed to CAM Corporate Offices (Mumbai) suggest good teams and partners to work with across the corporate practices. Answer in terms of supportive partner in terms of learnings for a fresher and non toxic. (This is with subject to selecting preference as a joinee)

Vipasana . In that if you watch your breathing without any attempt of changing it . Just reflect, it starts pacifying automatically as per its nature . Thereafter you can watch it with your body sensation and mental formation without any attempt of stopping forcefully any thoughts. This gives an insight about your own mind which is actually a process without any permanant 'I '

Fantastic! Mamata has really recognised a great talent — someone from a super-elite family and educational background, yet someone who can connect with the poor through such speeches. Shades of Indira Gandhi.

The Congress and BJP have never given NLSIU grads their due recognition, but the TMC finally has. 🙏

We are definitely going to see her in action soon, given that president’s rule is looming in Bengal. Modi-Shah abruptly replaced the governor yesterday and the clock is ticking fast. Expecting 60 lakh cases to be adjudicated in the next 60 days is like expecting a team to score 50 runs in over. Totally engineered by the BJP.

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Gen X and Y got saved, and now Gen Alpha will. Too bad Gen Z had to suffer a mental health crisis from social media overuse. 😔

https://www.barandbench.com/news/law-policy/karnataka-government-to-ban-social-media-use-for-children-under-16

No response to emails.

Not seen on campus. Always on foreign tours. Earlier they used to result in partnerships but now pathways shut, exchange reduced to 5 colleges, then what does he do abroad?

No open house. No accountability. Only interested in fees.

No wonder college is burning.

All the alumni of Jindal, Jindal admin is doing an arbitrary change to its IT Policy. This is arbitrary and problematic because during graduation we were told that we would have free lifetime access to this email and the services.

Please see mail from Dean PR below:

Dear Alumni,

Greetings from JGU.

This is a gentle reminder regarding the transition to the dedicated JGU Alumni Account system, which will take effect on Thursday, 10 March 2026.

As communicated by the Office of IT Services, while the existing “postjgu” email address will remain active for receiving emails, associated Microsoft services such as OneDrive, Teams, and other applications will no longer be accessible after the transition. The alumni mailbox will have a quota of 1 GB, with a 30-day email retention policy.

Action required by Monday, 09 March 2026:

- Back up any important files stored on OneDrive
- Save or download emails you wish to retain
- Ensure that your alternate personal email address is updated with us

We strongly encourage you to complete these steps before the deadline to avoid any loss of data or disruption.

If you require assistance with downloading your OneDrive data, accessing webmail, or have any questions about the transition, please reach out to:

IT Helpdesk: [redacted]

Alumni Relations Office: [redacted]

We appreciate your prompt attention to this matter and thank you for your continued engagement with the JGU alumni community.

Warm Regards,

[Name of Dean Academic Governance redacted due to LegallyIndia policy]

I would strongly recommend not joining T&S Law. ▮▮▮ They typically offer a four-month “assessment internship” where they claim to evaluate your performance, after which they may convert you to a Junior Associate with a salary of ₹30,000 per month. However, even after completing the four-month assessment period, many candidates are not converted. Even when someone is converted, the firm often does not issue a proper offer letter.

Another major issue is that the firm is heavily influenced by the parents of the partners, who interfere in the functioning of the firm. ▮▮▮

I am gonna give you a different perspective (NLUD alumni from a lower middle class background). May or may not apply to your situation.

I would have opted for a drop and then given it my all next year because the cost of slsp or jgls is just too high for a law degree from a college that is not counted as "tier 1".

For the record, I understand you can do great even as. jgls and/or sls grad, and people have in fact done great. Just that odds are relatively stacked against you.

You should be able to get into a good private college even next year (including the two above).

Hey. I was just wondering, what is the estimated pqe of these associates he hired? I am a fresher, so I was wondering if there's a certain pqe that they prefer. If you feel you can't disclose that, please let me know what you think should be the least pqe to join trilegal laterally.

As someone who has previously interned there (and had friends who interned there), be warned that the senior associates will be rude, and face-time partners almost non-existent. Junior associates are relatively nicer, but would not exactly be there to mentor you.

However, the worst part of the firm would be their HR, who will be rude to you and of no help should you need it (especially once the internship is over).

And if you are interning with the GC team, be prepared to get work from the disputes team sitting in the delhi office post work hours.

One of my younger colleagues had very poor written and oral advocacy skills. However, he was tenacious, would never backway from challenges, and we knew he would be the first person in and last person out on tough days. He had good people skills too. I hired him at a time when I needed someone who could handle last minute challenges as our team was often engaged at the last minute in many litigations.

He is doing very well today.

Would he have been hired without al push? No. In fact, the person who interviewed him for my team rejected him.

This is an exception and not the norm. 9 out of 10 people are hired for drafting, research and then groomed for better advocacy skills.

You know your weakness. Work on it.

Better to do a 3 year llb from DU, NLS or NLUO or any other NLUs that provide 3 years courses. The point being, you're not adding anything with a ballb/ballb degree. My suggestion try DU, it's easier and will give you more time for internships, especially running ones. Otherwise in terms of brand NLS is the best. Please use the 3 years wisely or else you will waste years pursuing a master's that is absolutely not required except for a career in Academia. The amount of misguided kids I see pursuing masters and even PhD, without any interest in joining academia, is shocking. Please plan the next 3-5 years carefully.

Do not take a drop. NLUs are overrated when it comes to placements. Sure apart from the top 5, others are just similar. Moreover Symbi and Jindal both have international collaborations that nobody talks about. My friends did a semester abroad, all paid, thanks to the university since he has a great acadmic track record.

If you want litigation, university doesn't matter.

If you want judiciary, university doesn't matter.

If you want civil services, university doesn't matter.

If you want corporate, internships and PPO matter more.

There are two book written by P.C. Markanda

1) Arbitration step by step

2) Arbitration ( commentary)

If you have these during your internship then you will have no problem for most issue in arbitration matter, these book can be referred to know the position of law