Are you jealous that Tier 2/Tier 3 and newcomers in general are giving a hard time to the gatekeepers of the noble legal profession.

I don't know why people obsess over Tier 1 firms like they are their buddies and have their best interests at heart.

Tier 1 firms are no doubt amazing but can we pls for god's sake stop this god complex disease in this profession.

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No salaryslips given by my previous litigation office (of an aor). The salary was inconsistent and at times I was paid in cash. I had asked my senior in the office about the same, even he does not get salaryslips. I left the office to relocate to another city, where i have a few interviews lined up in non-litigation offices. However, I was given an experience letter by the office.

Will i be asked to show my salaryslips? How should I go about telling them that my office never gave me the slips? Can anyone give me any solutions?

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Given that the Gates scholarship has been awarded to many students working in the area of human rights and social justice (including NLU and Jindal grads) maybe some sort of statement would be apt?

Interesting point for those of us who are pedants! (Maybe nothing, maybe of interest.) Of course, this is a message board where people aren't necessarily precise all the time. In your comment, you say "Justice BR Gavai's judgment in I.A. No. 93974 OF 2019 in WRIT PETITION (C) NO. 1022 OF 1989 All India Judges Association v Union of India vide its judgment dated 20.05.2025". Assuming you are conforming to common practice of legal citation in India, there is a difference between how Indian and English lawyers tend to write. Just that an English lawyer would have said something along the lines of, "Judgment of Gavai J (as he then was) in [etc etc]". The "(as he then was)" is, per my understanding, a relatively common feature of British legal writing.

No salaryslips given by my previous litigation office (of an aor). The salary was inconsistent and at times I was paid in cash. I had asked my senior in the office about the same, even he does not get salaryslips. I left the office to relocate to another city, where i have a few interviews lined up in non-litigation offices. However, I was given an experience letter by the office.

Will i be asked to show my salaryslips? How should I go about telling them that my office never gave me the slips? Can anyone give me any solutions?

A friend had worked there. One of those firms which is a one man show with no actual transferable work. Sure, big ish clientele and good money (for the partner), but no actual transferability or credibility in the market and difficult to switch given the random nature of work. Partner is rude and says the most atrocious and unhinged stuff. Can be tried if financial constraints are there and nothing else is working out.

Does anyone know what the pay at IC Regfin's Delhi office is like? I know that it's Burgeon Law that has now merged with them, but since there's a vast difference in pay between both these places (IC Reg starting with 20+ LPA and Burgeon barely 6 LPA), have they updated the pay at the Delhi office. Also, if anyone has insights on the work culture, please share that too.

I have personally met people working in relatively ▮▮▮ teams, telling me how much better their life has been since they left Spice. Everyone working in or connected with people in TMT know that they have a really really poor culture. They fire people without any considerations, stall bonuses which the▮▮▮y ▮▮▮, ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ and expect unreasonable working hours, have revoked offer letters and even ghosted college placement committees' internship applications which they themselves requested. There are multiple threads on this very platform attesting to all of these incidents, and unless you have absolutely no option and desperately need something, I'd strongly advise against it.

Yes, I did. Extension was something they had no issue providing however was informed that even after extension, there are no tangible opportunities because team is very stable and people have not quit. Assessment internship chance was not there, because AZB atleast I believe doesn't provide fake assessment in guise of utilising cheap labour. They give assessment internships only when there is a good chance of hiring someone/vacancy is there.

Yes. Justice BR Gavai's judgment in I.A. No. 93974 OF 2019 in WRIT PETITION (C) NO. 1022 OF 1989 All India Judges Association v Union of India vide its judgment dated 20.05.2025 :

“89. vii. We further direct that the experience of the candidate, which they have gained working as law clerks with any of the judges or judicial officers of the country, will also be considered while calculating the total number of years of practice.”

It has become far too common for individual Advocates, chambers and low-tier firms to embarass themselves and lose when a tier 1 firm is on the opposing side. These chambers and low-tier boutique firms don't pay their juniors well, have egos worse than SC judges, make silly arguments and embarass themselves publicly. Tier 1 firms, otoh, do their research, draft their pleadings well, pay their associates handsomely, engage good arguing counsel and win! What surprises me is how these chambers keep getting clients. They should be out of business by now. Or is it just that businesses still don't want to spend money on lawyers? If so, why don't they go for a mid-sized firm over a chamber?

Clavicular is a looks ▮▮▮. Looks aren't everything. They are indeed something as everyone loves to look at a pleasant face but they aren't THE deciding factor. Those who build their career on looks will have a short span of satisfaction as everything will begin to cascade after late 40s. In contrast people who build their fame using money or actual skills will have a longer span of satisfaction (maybe even well until their death).

Which firms amongst the Tier-1s are the most prominent in insurance law? I am aware that Tuli & Co (and Solaris to some extent) are specialist firms. However, their pay is sub-par. I would like to know how does an insurance team work within a full-service T1. Is it just as a part of transaction? If not, then which firms/teams are generating most work within insurance realm, independent of other teams? Any leads would be appreciated!

Absolutely correct decision. If we want to bring equality we have to stop dividing society based on caste benefits. Only way forward is to start shift in to economy based reservations for everyone. Poor upper castes and rich lower castes still exist. If this rule came into effect major of false cases would increase not just against students but also teachers. Imagine a professor not giving free marks gets fired because he's a UC, and not because he's setting a standard of excellence. Major brain drain happening.

NUJS' placement records have always been better than any other NLU in the last decade. That's not because of smaller batch size but because of their alumni connect and greater focus on corp-specific law firm life. Those remain unchanged, at least for the BA Batch. BSc people aren't meant for those placements either, so the extra batch size doesn't mean much from a placement perspective. It also offers a student greater autonomy and flexibility compared with join NLUJ or GNLU, as well as exposure to greater range of careers including academia, policy work and entrepreneurship. The max number of NLU alum teaching in India come from NUJS at present.

If this were a case of one or two associates being let go, that would be understandable. But this firm fires dozens of associates en masse every year—effectively meaning all of its former associates have been pushed out at some point. That pattern says a lot about its culture: a pressure-heavy environment paired with unethical hire-and-fire cost cutting. On top of that, the firm has repeatedly misrepresented pay and bonuses. I would strongly advise avoiding it. I haven’t heard a single positive review from anyone in the industry.

Got a rank of 180ish and decided to choose GNLU. Seeing the protests in NUJS and the living conditions there, people recommended me not go there. NLUJ and GNLU were pretty much the same but GNLU offered more breathing space.

Last year placement wise as well, GNLU performed really good but others did the same as well. NUJS and NLUJ claimed a 90-100% placement record up until now because of a smaller batch size but atleast from this academic year NLUJ NUJS and GNLU have a similar batch size.
Any rec to change stuff up in Vacancy ?
Also how much is a different in students who maintain a batch rank of top 20 across these 3 colleges ?

not op but, my mail has something on these lines….

“We would like to welcome you on board (virtually) from…

Any change in mode of internship would be communicated closer to your date of joining.”

can someone who has already interned OFFLINE confirm whether this was in their mail? i was assuming after virtual onboarding, it would be an offline internship only?

worked as an associate there for 2.5 years (changed now), their pay scale is below average and even paralegal are paid and respected more than the associates, firm is kind of chill and not like a typical law firm, timings are good but trust me you would not learn anything over here- even someone from non law background would also become an associate in such a firm. Hiring actually depends on mood of the founder rather than ur actual skills. I can say that even interns at IPR law firms would know better than many associates there. My personal opinion based on 2.5 years of experience there would be that if u need a chill environment with no good pay, growth- join them, but if u want to build something in this field go for other law firms

I’m trying to understand how Nirma is actually functioning these days—academics, faculty attitude, administration, internship support, placements, and campus culture.

A lot of things are floating around, so first-hand experiences from students/alumni would be super helpful.

You are a part of the silent majority.

The craving for validation amongst lawyers at the moment is shocking.

I know people who cannot afford to buy a house but are buying luxury items to somehow convince their peers that they have arrived.

Irrespective of what someone else is doing, we need to cut the noise and focus on work and family.

Hi, I’m looking to switch to a chamber whose primary practice is in civil or criminal law, with strong exposure at the Delhi High Court and the District Courts in Delhi. Could you please suggest some names of chambers or advocates who have a decent practice and offer fair remuneration?

They have supposed to have taken a lease of an office in the same building as KCO. I also heard that some litigation office from Chennai will merge into trilegal like assentio with Khaithan. Their pay will be more than Khaithan I would guess because of the general reputation of trilegal. Will be exciting to see how trilegal v khaitan will play out and adjust to the chennai market.