Yes, that's a good start. It also runs a BSc-LLB in Cybersecurity. but the influencers and trolls here in all their wisdom give it a lower preference. It shows the mindset of the current crop.
Because both BSc LLB (Forensic Science) and MSc (Forensic Science) were launched with a lead time of under two months. That's why. It showed desperation to garner some revenue.
Yeah, the issue is once a quota is started it cannot be reversed. That will be seen as an anti-social act. Let's assume for a moment that the SC upholds the Karnataka HC order - NLS will still have to "voluntarily" continue the domicile reservation as it will be foolish on its part to confront the state government and attract its ire by removing it - pani mein rehkar magarmachh se bair nahi karte. The fact that Karnataka Govt has not accepted the HC order and taken the matter to the SC tells something.
The courts will not intervene in domicile quota cases. State governments (as all NLUs are state institutions) can and will bring executive orders to ringfence their interests, if needed (as Karnataka Govt is doing in this case).
Law firms in India may have shiny offices and glossy furniture, but their IT infrastructure sucks. This is a systemic problem. No one realizes the importance of good IT infrastructure till the shit hits the fan.
You have an amusing argument. You think good faculty arrive on Earth from another planet - that's how all great institutions developed. On one hand, we live in a society (of UG students) that ridicules PG (LLM) and Ph.D. students, but on the other hand, everyone wants good faculty. Be the change you want you want to see, then talk.
Faculty don't appear magically. It takes time to create that as these are relatively new disciplines in India. The process has started. NFSU has taken 80+ PhD students this year, most of whom will eventually take up faculty positions. ISRO scientists carried rockets on cycle carriers in the '70s (not in hi-tech vehicles). Today everyone knows what they are and have achieved. Things don't come on a platter. By your yardstick, ISRO should not have succeeded but they did. There are people in NFSU who know what needs to be done, and gaps to be addressed.
It is a national institution so be prepared for more news and updates. If you don't like it, then keeping quiet is a good option for you. This is an open forum.
The difference between the two is minuscule, which will not matter in your career spanning 30 - 40 years. Don't get misled by all this rhetoric. Don't lose a year for such silly reasons. You may like/love Kolkata. but it is always to good thing to learn and live in another city. You can always go back to Kolkata after you graduate. Distance makes the heart grow fonder.
Exactly. There was a time when even bread was made like this. In Bengal, bread is called "paarooti" - the rough translation is roti made with the feet.
Here's further evidence of how the Karnataka Govt will hold on to NLSIU, and domicile quota is critical for them. And quota is a sensitive topic, hence no one wants to take a call on that. Judges are recusing en-masse.
That decision does not lie with NLS but with Karnataka Govt. This has been discussed in another thread. If the Karnataka government does not "let go" of NLS as a state institution with a formal NOC, it is not going to happen. States not letting go of their institutions is not new. WB Govt did not give the NOC to Jadavpur U in 2005 when there was a proposal to make it into an IIT. Once the state government does not give NOC, the central government moves on. Jadavpur is still a state institution. Under the current scenario, the relationship between the Centre and the Karnataka Govt is not at all amicable - Karnataka just scrapped the NEP. Plus don't underestimate the importance of state domicile reservation for Karnataka Govt.
Not states - but cities may be. Bangalore, Delhi, and Mumbai are T1 cities and that makes a difference, along with leadership and funding. So it is location, leadership, and funding. Institutions that have all three are blessed, the ones with any two try to cover the shortcomings by excelling in the other two, and the ones with any one or none are having a very tough time.
Yes, you are absolutely right - belittling other institutions and taking potshots is the favorite pastime here. There's always a group of trolls who cannot swallow the success of others and start ridiculing the post, the person posting, and the institution.
LOL. Everyone claims to know everyone, everywhere - but we know the reality. You are the only one to recognize standard and of standard - all others are substandard. In fact, in your view, the whole world is substandard, except you.
So now you are the one who's going to decide and dictate when an institution post is PR or not, and the criteria for it. Go chill. If you don't like it, keeping quiet is a good option.
I am not here to belittle other institutions and take silly potshots at people or entities (like you are doing). Don't be surprised that soon NLSIU and NFSU could have a collaboration between them. Stay tuned.
No - because students have a herd mentality and follow the beaten track. Wait for 2 - 3 years and beyond, with the kind of growth and funding NFSU has - be ready for something big. If you are genuinely interested to know (beyond your attempt to ridicule) then read up on how IITs got their first batch of (reluctant) students and how these institutes started with 2 or 3 faculty members on temporary campuses. If you cannot (or refuse to) see an emerging trend, then the problem is not with the trend but with you.
Tripura Government allocates ₹100 croreshttps://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/gujarat-tripura-allocates-rs-100-crore-to-set-up-nfsu-campus-on-70-acre-site-7592538/
Note that these are in addition to the central funding NFSU receives for being an INI.
"Institute of National Importance (INI) is a status that may be conferred on a premier public higher education institution in India by an act of Parliament of India, an institution which "serves as a pivotal player in developing highly skilled personnel within the specified region of the country/state". Institutes of National Importance receive special recognition, higher autonomy, and funding from the Government of India."
NFSU is playing a key role in developing skilled human resources in forensic sciences and other allied areas/disciplines. There is no requirement that the university has to be 50 or 100 years old, to qualify for the INI status. NFSU is indeed an INI in a very niche area that has important implications for the country's national security that you'll hear a lot more about. So just get used to it.
If you don't like it, then you have the option of not seeing it or not reacting to it. NFSU is a three-year-old University, and in this time it has done more than some much older universities and institutes. You will hear more about NFSU in the time to come. Get used to it.
The Delhi High Court questioned the Delhi University’s (DU’s) decision to admit students to the five-year integrated law course solely on the basis of the Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) and not the CUET.
NFSU is hiring 50+ faculty for its various campuses and schools - Gandhinagar and Delhi being the most important ones. All positions need a Ph.D. - which is understandable as it is primarily a PG and research institution. This shows the scale and speed of expansion NFSU is going through, and the extent of funding available to the university. As an INI, it has a critical role to play in India's education landscape. Needless to mention, any faculty aspirant will also prefer to work in a national institution over any state institution (obviously). One can foresee what NFSU will be like in the coming 3 - 5 years.
One can sense the "J" factor, as NFSU is getting so much government attention (and funding). NFSU is an INI, so welcome to the world of real national institutions.
The Government of India designates National Forensic Sciences University (NFSU) as the National Examiner of Electronic Evidence. The University becomes the first ever University to get notified under Section 79A of the IT Act 2000. This special mandate is another significant milestone in the University's Cyber-Forensic investigations capabilities.
Here's further evidence of the not-so-amicable relations between the Karnataka Govt and the Central Govt. Karnataka will scrap NEP from next year. In such a situation there is no way that the state government will give the NOC for NLS.
Yes, the state government matters. Jadavpur U was slated to be converted into an IIT, but the WB govt did "let go" of the University, hence the idea had to be shelved. If the state does not agree, it does not happen.
"That did not happen by court order, but by legislative design. Doing something like that now will involve the central government having to put up considerable funds for the institute, which it will not do."
@Guest007. You are right. NITs were RECs (Regional Engineering Colleges). That said, the respective state must still agree to "let go" before changing its status. Secondly, even today NITs are considered Tier 2 when compared to IITs - they don't get the same respect and status.
Union Home Minister, Shri Amit Shah in his address on 13 Aug 2023, highlighted international collaborations of National Forensic Sciences University (NFSU) and said it has emerged as a valuable ornament of India in the world".
Keep dreaming......but that ain't going to happen. Karnataka Govt has to agree to "let go" of NLS as a state institution before it can become a "national" institution. That has never happened before. All national institutions in Karnataka (namely - IISc, IIMB, NIFT, NID, NFSU Dharwad, IIT Dharwad, and NIMHANS) were set up as national entities right from their inception. Giving up NLS would mean the end of domicile-based reservation that the Karnataka Govt can ill-afford. Also, the state government is already opposing the implementation of NEP in the state, so the relation between the state govt and the central govt not exactly amicable.
Watch Shri. Amit Shah, Minister of Home Affairs, chalking out upcoming plans, expanding role and importance of NFSU in India's legal landscape. Key points in his speech at the parliament today include:
1. Aim to increase the conviction rate from the current 15% to 90%. 2. Expand the number of graduates in forensic science to 33,000 per year from 2026 onwards. 3. Forensic analysis will be mandatory for all crimes with a punishment of > 7 years with a new law.
NFSU will change the legal landscape in India, and with the above one can only imagine the kind of funding and support the university will be provided by the Government. NFSU already has the INI status and reports prepared by the university are admissible in the courts as evidence (the only educational institution in the country to be given that privilege).
Genuine advice - top rankers should consider higher studies. Placements should be lower in priority. That would show some maturity among law students. The current obsessive fixation on placements is not good for the discipline (and practice) of law. One law school is deemed better than another law school merely on placements - how shallow and superficial.
So the cast is set now.
https://www.barandbench.com/news/supreme-court-justice-hrishikesh-roy-recuses-nlsiu-bengaluru-domicile-quota-case
Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a fool's paradise. States will fight tooth and nail for this, and NLUs will always remain state institutions.
https://www.barandbench.com/news/supreme-court-justice-hrishikesh-roy-recuses-nlsiu-bengaluru-domicile-quota-case
https://www.barandbench.com/news/admissions-du-5-year-law-course-central-government-delhi-high-court-cuet-mandatory-ugc-opposes
https://www.pratidintime.com/guwahati-news-breaking-latest/nfsu-to-come-up-on-50-acres-of-land-at-cost-of-rs-300-cr-assam-cm
Tripura Government allocates ₹100 croreshttps://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/gujarat-tripura-allocates-rs-100-crore-to-set-up-nfsu-campus-on-70-acre-site-7592538/
Note that these are in addition to the central funding NFSU receives for being an INI.
That's PR right?
https://assamtribune.com/guwahati/guwahati-gets-centres-nod-to-establish-national-forensic-sciences-university-1491096?infinitescroll=1
"Institute of National Importance (INI) is a status that may be conferred on a premier public higher education institution in India by an act of Parliament of India, an institution which "serves as a pivotal player in developing highly skilled personnel within the specified region of the country/state". Institutes of National Importance receive special recognition, higher autonomy, and funding from the Government of India."
NFSU is playing a key role in developing skilled human resources in forensic sciences and other allied areas/disciplines. There is no requirement that the university has to be 50 or 100 years old, to qualify for the INI status. NFSU is indeed an INI in a very niche area that has important implications for the country's national security that you'll hear a lot more about. So just get used to it.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/hc-questions-delhi-universitys-decision-of-admission-to-5-year-law-courses-through-clat-not-cuet/article67204725.ece
https://beta.nfsu.ac.in/data/pdfs/career/Detailed%20Advertisement%20of%20Teaching%20&%20Non%20Teaching%20(Contractual)%20for%20Campuses%20in%20India_140823.pdf
https://www.the420.in/central-government-designates-nfsu-national-examiner-electronic-evidence/
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/no-nep-from-2024-25-academic-year-karnataka-cm-siddaramaiah-2647057
Here's the 2005 news report.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/iit-status-in-sight-for-two-bengal-varsities/articleshow/1088445.cms
Spot on. Agree 100%.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cv5AkWCuJrE/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KrUZFTZrpU
1. Aim to increase the conviction rate from the current 15% to 90%.
2. Expand the number of graduates in forensic science to 33,000 per year from 2026 onwards.
3. Forensic analysis will be mandatory for all crimes with a punishment of > 7 years with a new law.
Watch the video clip here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KrUZFTZrpU.
NFSU will change the legal landscape in India, and with the above one can only imagine the kind of funding and support the university will be provided by the Government. NFSU already has the INI status and reports prepared by the university are admissible in the courts as evidence (the only educational institution in the country to be given that privilege).
Find details here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nfsulawofficial_2nd-international-conference-on-forensic-activity-7095297427817005056-GEjX?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop