Hii folks,

I am a final year LL.B. student at the Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. I have interned in law firms and offices of Advocate on Record in New Delhi in disputes/litigation team. I am looking forward to securing long-term internships in law firms and later pre-placement offers.

Please suggest to me a few firms/senior advocates which hire fresh law graduates and pay decent in disputes resolution team especially arbitration.

Because, if you look at Ashoka faculty, they have credentials far surpassing that of Jindal faculty. If you go to any job vacancy at Ashoka's website, it most certainly requires a PhD which Jindal does not. Ashoka's faculty usually have foreign PhDs and postdocs from good institutions which are unspoken requirements. Sometimes the job vacancy even says that they want people with postdoc experience from top labs or institutions. This means that if you go the Google Scholar page of their academics, Ashoka academics far outshine their counterparts at Jindal.

Jindal takes random people with foreign LL.M.s and no teaching experience as faculty, lol. Spoiler alert: it is 50x difficult to get a foreign PhD than a foreign LL.M.

Amongst the whole bunch of law firms, there is no doubt that Trilegal does far well for its people. The pain of crazy work hours (which is a given no matter what law firm or level) is blunted somewhat if you know you are paid much better than the others. But there is one inadvertent problem brewing that the Trilegal Management must take note of as well. The high pay makes it difficult for people to move out of Trilegal and for particularly toxic teams, the suffering is silent and the growing sense of entrapment is a real thing. Once the roti, kapda, makaan problems are solved, humans seek respect, if the teams toxic culture is pervasive, it is likely to have mental health repercussions and if people are used to the really high pay and unable to move out for concerns of downgrading pay, you are brewing a mental health crisis within toxic teams. Again, this is inapplicable for teams with good culture, but only for toxic ones. Money can maybe delay the explosion but not indefinitely keep it at bay. It's only a matter of time that we see these entrapped souls explode. So Trilegal must balance the high pay with other qualitative metrics of happiness and overall well being. And they must walk the talk.

One CAM partner left for inhouse last year. He was brilliant and a gem to work with. His entire former team could not survive and has left for Trilegal, I think. Before them a banking partner from CAM, not any other partner from mainstream practice of M&A, banking or Cap Mkts have left from CAM

There is no culture of PPO. You may need to be in personal contact of a partner to gain visibility as an intern. The work culture is okayish except for 2-3 seniors who had pushed many of us to leave the organisation. The pay is not at par with market standards. It is a decent place for a fresher or A1 to gain experience in corporate work.

Aptly enough , I am a recent law graduate, working in a law firm. However, Whenever I discuss with my parents they insist me to prepare for judiciary for all the vague reasons in the world - stable job, perks , reputation. IDK I have never seriously considered Judiciary as a career option, but they are forever stuck on that only . The problem arises when I express my desires to parents on joining a good diploma or certification course - "beta itne paise lagane se accha h judiciary ki tyyari krlo".

Help me guys i'm just fed up.

Get some help dude. Your purpose in life should be from within and not from another person.

You can't ruin your life based on a breakup.

Imagine in 5 years how you will have moved on and realised that this is just a blip.

Get working on yourself and get out of there with a job in hand. There are plenty of more fish in the sea.

Kiddo, if you had interviewed with me, then all of this information is quite identifiable and will dox you. Do you want Divi to know that you have been asking these questions to the world?

The best way to go about this is through your college network, especially people you know personally who will give you an honest and non-suger coated version of the truth.

Looks good with the number of deals they are doing. The quality of partners they have is also very good..

The only issue it seems is that the top management is way too greedy to let money out to the young talent. With the headcount so less, they should increase their pay so that people don't leave them

Spectacular placement results at NLUJ. A grand total of 27 students (with a few without RICC connections) got placed in different firms and companies, as associates and in house.

Truly NLS level placement statistics, except for the fact that twice as many people say for placements at NLUJ, but who cares. Please don’t call out the RICC xoxo

Here's the truth of what happened:

1) 20-22 people got jobs (Not offers)

2) Half of the people who did not get a job never cared about corp jobs; Had interned in Courts and research institutes and then joined RCC at the last moment to sit for placements.

3) Many people from this batch had got PPO interviews but failed

CAM is now crumbling firm its own toxic work atmosphere.But Trilegal will also face the same fate because the CAM partners will continue the sane toxic culture at Trilegal which they were used to at the CAM offices.Associates gave left Trilegal and now Trilegal is hiking salaries because Associates ate leaving and are badly needed to work with three new partners

Wow. Thanks for sharing. Obviously ▮▮▮ journal. Shockingly, the problem exists, not only in ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮, but even at certain NLUs. There are particular professors who merely lend there names to work by students, or publish plagiarised stuff, or create their own journal and publish there.

Stop exaggerating. Hundreds of students have lived in the same rooms before you and gone on to achieve great things. If you have got such fancy expectations from a public university hostel, then leave. The person who replaces you will be less entitled and a greater asset for the institution.

Faulty government policy that has seen the crony capitalists making money and the actual mass not having anything to spend. Will keep happening so long as the current party is in power and continues the same policy. They are neither capitalists nor socialists, just there to keep Adanis, and Nirav Modis happy.

Iss saal ka stats nikal na.... yes Jindal places more people out of a batch of 800. I'm pretty sure that it will not be the case this time.

Usually around 20-25 people get jobs on Day Z at NLS. The reason for so many unemployed students after Day Z is because of a less number of PPOs. Just 12-13 people got PPOs. In other batches, the number usually crosses 22. 2ndly, more number of students have applied for placements this year. Otherwise, the hiring trend is the same.

The RCC should have called more firms other than calling the T1 firms only!

What BS!Trilegal had been poaching all if CAMs partners and Associates.This is an angry reaction to Cyril Shroff MP calling Trilegal a "smaller firm". So they are literally attacking CAM with all their might snatching its Partners and Associates.The MPs statement is not in good light but neither is the way Trilegal's on attack mode on CAM.

Faced the same situation last year, didn't have NLS has my first priority for this very reason.

Quite satisfied with my decision. NALSAR is an excellent place, the lower batch size is an added benifit. NLS for certain is going to face the brunt, this is what happens when you give free reigns to a dictitorial VC.

Sorry to tell you this buddy but ▮▮▮.Please take the matter of mental health seriously.You cannot be sacrificed because of clients and law firms unrealistic demands.Demand a break and rest and if ckient ir team is making you suffer fir deadkines refuse them.Heavens will not fall but at this rate you are going to collapse if not from physical then emotional exhaustion.If its causing friction in team, start looking out.If things are really bad,please also start taking therapy.This issue is so serious but no one has the courage to address it because none wants to stand up to the law firms that literally propogates toxicity.Trust me, the money or career ladder is not worth this.

1. ICUL Mumbai has a low attrition rate in the law firm fraternity, which is what they are known for. Reasons - their pay gets superb with time (as once someone is with the firm for more than 2.5 years they also start getting small share in equity profits of the firm doubling there usual good bonus. Nobody is going to get such a perk in a tier 1 firm). So initially you get tier 1 payouts but exceeds that once you remain with the firm for a reasonable time. That’s on the top of good work culture and nil politics. That should explain their relatively quick rise.

2. You will get an easy entry in any good tier 1 firm if you have their tag. A red carpet entry in any tier 1 firm specially if you happen to have their funds team tag. Check out in the market.

3. Guys particularly in the funds and sebi regulatory field are topping all the ranking charts. Firm hosted a grand law firm tournament in MCA BKC last year which was a superhit and the one which every cricket enthusiast in other law firms is waiting to happen again this year. not to forget their foreign offsites which i loved the most more than anything. So pretty decent overall branding for a new team.

I work with a London law firm now with a handsome GBP pay 😁 but can vouch for everything stated above having experienced some of it first hand myself and also knowing the recent developments from the friends and fraternity in mumbai. Advice you to double check all the above with janta working out there to get better comfort. All the best

No offence your wants seem to be conflicting. If you are tilted towards pay and going out then you have an obvious answer in transactions.

If you want intellectual stimulation, people connect, some sembalance of your existence and contribution to the work product then you have an answer in disputes.

I was with Transactions (and maybe it is a me issue) and it made me brain dead. I almost never knew why was I doing what was I doing. Maybe it was a team problem too but you’ll never know the background ever until you are much senior. You’ll just be told the transaction structure that’s about it. Law firms have precedents for everything especially he transactions team. The even cut copy paste the emails they have already sent on the issue- so you’ll have little space to show your creativity. Another thing I noticed was that transactions team hated reading the law.

But maybe it can interest you if you have genuine interest in the market.

Gave an interview for the team of Divi Dutta Sam Delhi for private client practise.

Any leads about the working hours? Work culture of the team? How is the practice area? Is it worth switching from corporate team of a tier 2 firm in Mumbai to Delhi and worth relocating to Delhi? Will I be able to switch from Private client practice area to general corporate and M&A later as the aforementioned partner is also having deals pertaining to M&A and Capital Markets?

These are similar universities. Both private. Both expensive. Both in Sonepat. Both having very good infrastructure. Both having strong foreign collaborations. Both attracting wealthy students. Both having faculty who have studied in reputed universities, in India and abroad.

Yet, the respect that Jindal gets doesn't match up to the respect Ashoka gets. Why is it so? Is it because the chancellor of Jindal is Naveen Jindal and not an academic? Is it because Jindal is not as left-wing as Ashoka is? Or is it just that NLU students and alumni like to troll Jindal?

Have heard a lot of Partners (read Senior) are giving gifts to some associates (of same or opposite gender) like jewellery, rides, or cars for favours (read whatever you like). How unfavorable it is to associates who are dragging their ass off for nothing or getting fired. Such a bad state :(

I wanted to ask all of you that since NLSIU has taken 240 students for the BA LLB course this year and plans to increase it to 1500 students year by year under it's NLSIU Inclusion and Expansion Plan 2021-25. The question that comes to the mind is that how the university is going to get placed so many students because earlier it used to be just 80 students so placement was sure short in many ways since the batch size was small but what is going to happen now and what will be the future scenario since the college is taking so many students in? Will other colleges like NALSAR, WBNUJS, NLUJ be a better option to get placed since the batch size in these are around 120. Please give your views, opinions, thoughts and insights on this as it looks like a real concern for me as I am preparing for Clat and working hard to join Top Nlu's and will be looking forward towards taking placement at the end of the college. Please Help.

Wow! I just checked the journal. It is Journal of Survey in Fisheries Sciences. Not sure how law professors are publishing law articles in fishery science journal.

Is it a paid journal? How is ▮▮▮ permitted such publications?

https://www.latestlaws.com/latest-news/court-grants-interim-injunction-to-law-student-who-sued-two-professors-for-publishing-her-research-paper-under-their-names-203331/

I think many more people should check if the articles are plagiarised as all seem to be on similar theme from the same college:

1. https://sifisheriessciences.com/journal/index.php/journal/article/view/1375

2. https://sifisheriessciences.com/journal/index.php/journal/article/view/1377

3. http://sifisheriessciences.com/journal/index.php/journal/article/view/1361

Even if not -can someone tell me how are Law Professors publishing in "Fishery Sciences" ?

Haha, you think jindal students are communists? theyre just perfomative teenages who want to rebel against mum and dad. No one is giving their inheritance away.

But also- if you say some people dont have a right to free speech because of historical actions of authoritative regimes- youre quite authoritarian too and you dont really understand the value of free speech.

Ranking the teams:

1. Employment - Possibly the best team. Very understanding partners, structured teams, great quality work. No complaints. They have had negligible attrition in the last few years because of how well functioning the team is. 2. GC under Reeba is also good - most partners are good and reasonable to work under. Try asking about each partner before applying. Great work. You won't have a bad time for sure. Not many PAs might be a put off and create problems for sure. Some politics between associates is also something to be mindful about.

3. TMT/capital markets/public M&A - great work but insanely high expectations. Long hours. Some demanding partners might spoil the experience. Take this if you have a particular interest in the field.

4. Disputes - a couple of odd nuts make this an avoidable team. They can be heard screaming at their juniors from another wing of the office. They're extremely moody and toxic. Take this only if you have a keen interest in disputes and can deal with some of the most frustrating seniors. Partners are fine though. Might not learn much but you'll survive.

5. Banking and finance/Real estate - just avoid it. Don't even think about it and run far away from both teams.

As someone who had offers from both Trilegal and KCO during my Day Z. I greatly regret choosing the latter. I am now looking for the first opportunity to switch to Trilegal that I get. I am so done with KCO.

They aren't just offering the best pay, but also perks like lunch and snacks in the office. 2 offsites per year and other goodies as per my friends there. These might seem like small things but for someone living in an new city, a lunch in the office is truly a great perk! Trilegal looking forward to vacancies there!

With the batch of 24 facing a hugely disappointing Day Zero even in Top NLUS such as NLUJ and NLS, with NLUD also not having the services of CAM and Khaitan, it is more or less expected that a similar hiring trend if likely to continue in GNLU which have their Day Zero from tomorrow. With massive recession fears, it seems that even God would not be able to save even the brightest of students from T-1 NLUs.

Around 17 accepted offers. One of the lowest in NLS history. The usual big hirer CAM has also made only some 7 offers.

All firms have overhired from the 2023 batch but business didn't grow as much post-pandemic. This is the effect of that. Doesn't seem to be because of any fault of NLS or its students

Check out this tweet saying something drastically went wrong in this year's Day Zero at NLSIU.

https://twitter.com/Beard_Pakoda/status/1686739126601543680

Does anyone know?

Upon coming across an article a question struck my mind, whether a judgment given by a Magistrate be valid if their letter of termination was dated yesterday and the judgment was pronounced by them today? Do any learned advocates here know of any specific section which covers an issue like this under IPC or CrPc?

any opinion will be of great help to me as a first-year student of law. :)

This seems to be at odds with reports that the GDP is booming and we will be the 3rd largest economy soon. What's going on? Is it simply that we're too populated? Or the slow pace of reforms, FDI entry and privatisation under Modi, worsened by anti-reform state governments? Or perhaps the fact that only Southern India, Western India and NCR are growing the economy, while the North, East and East are pulling us down?