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Broadly agree with the A*B partner above - if you're sending cold e-mails, then be prepared for 70% of them being ignored. Your message/e-mail will be read if the partner is looking to hire at that point in time, so unfortunately it is a luck/timing issue.
If you're looking to make a lateral move, your chances of success are much higher if you reach out to the firms/partners that you have actually come across on your deals. That way, the partner on the other side will be more than happy to have a chat. It is not the culture in India but try and getting into the habit of meeting your counterparts for informal coffee/drinks. Try and become friends with the associate(s) in other firms. That's how you develop your network and find out roles before they're advertised in the broader market.
For people who are currently in-house or otherwise don't have such contacts, try and make use of of your college whatsapp groups and/or tap into the alumni network. That's how you typically get your first break. There are also some good head hunters in the market... Vahura/Options Group etc. but those are useful for lateral moves when you already have Tier 1/ Tier 2 experience under your belt.
In the end... be polite, be professional and keep hustling. Good luck!
Watch a movie instead.
In terms of payscale, definitely it does. Initial returns can only come your way if you are in a tier 1/2 law firm. Litigation does not pay bare minimum generally (even in metro cities). Getting good in-house jobs for freshers is generally impossible. You will see an engineer graduate before you and earning more than you, despite the cumulative investments being more in law schools.
The legal industry is not big and generation currently at the helm, is worst in terms of business mindset, payscale to employees, work culture. The recent AZB event reflects the fiasco which the law firms are. Forget who says what in this episode, such thing came out and devoured the brand (if there is any) of AZB, itself shows that the firm does not enjoy a respectful command in the eyes of its employees.
And what to talk about law chambers. Even in cities like Delhi/Mumbai/Bangalore, the average pay (for those who pay) hovers around 15k-18k for freshers. One would be lucky to start from 25k per month. But even then, the work pressure would be so high, that you would consider it better to do a corp law thing than to continue with litigation where the pay range won't increase much even after 2-3 years. The pay and work pressure definitely need fixing.
Now when I said no the law does not suck, here is what I meant. The immense scope one has, to do any work which directly impact people is so enticing that no immediately remunerative professional choices like engineering can prevail over. You can do litigation, go for judicial services, get in legal policy work, work as law clerk for a judge, try for fellowships, and many other things (which I am personally still exploring; and know there are a lot more jobs that I can take with my law degree).
The pay is not good. As I mentioned it for litigation before. But imagine, if you are from a Tier 1 or Tier 2 city, the opportunities for a law graduate are numerous. No matter if you don't make good money for some 2-3 years, you will be living with your parents and doing stuff which interests you.
Now compare this with an engineer graduate who gets employed to serve clients dealing with stuff like coding mostly in the office. Life of a lawyer, I believe, is certainly more adventurous than such professions. And once you will get old, you would yourself depreciate the fact that you considered immediate earning in 20s as that important, which you would wish you had not.
(These are my personal opinions. Your thoughts may differ. Please don't post trollish comments.)
So it's all your efforts and luck that will matter. The only thing you need to avoid is sitting idle and waiting for acceptance of your job application. Do whatever you may get. All the best.
I don't even know people (apart from some UPSC) who wanted to do law as a first choice. This became the most commercial skill I have, and i hate myself for it everyday.
Will 2 seats be carved out from the merit list (thus reducing the merit list by 2) or could transgenders be classified as OBCs and be including within OBC reservation? The second option could be a possibility because OBC means Other Backward CLASS, not Other Backward CASTE. So transgenders from all castes could be classified as OBCs. I feel this is the most sensible method.
See, every place has some inefficiency. The last two years have been rough for the firm, because there was a spilt wherein they corporate segment spilt off to another firm called AL.
I having worked here for around a short stint can certainly say that work is there, but not very high like T1s. But, that’s a phase. Sometimes work is there, sometimes not.
Coming to the aspect of culture, the culture is decent enough. Strict of course and old school set up, where there are knowledge sessions, strict timings, etc.
But I personally am of the opinion that many comments here are harsh and uncalled for by those who had left the place.
Let us appreciate for what the firm has provided. If you don’t like the workplace for any reason, you can and have all right to switch any day switch. But commenting here is unfair.
I am a recent grad (23), working as a "shared resource" between two unrelated teams (don't want to specify my practice areas for obvious reasons).
Have heard many seniors (in the firm, outside the firm) advocating that it is a good idea to be a jack for a couple of years before settling down in a particular specialisation, Is this what they have in mind? or am I the "beech ka langur" here?
2. Constantly demotivates you by criticising your work.
3. Does not let you interact with the client.
Boss has a mantra of letting you know that you are lucky to be receiving your salary.
You're allowing VA people to call ex-associates "servants" but deleting even honest, non-trollish comments that call out the bad stuff. You come once on the thread, you see the comment. One hour later, GONE!
Wow, just wow.
-OP
My advice to the original poster and to you will be the same - quit law while it’s early. Save both on redeeming your career and enjoy your youth.
It’s an average place just have good amount of dispute work and the main client of Singhania is NHAI you will mostly do the grunt work. Not even visit courts. But overall 1 time internship is good even pay is in peanuts.
Your manager will be able to tell you more about Monthly SIP, Retail Investing in stock markets, Tax saving Investment Oppurtunities (ELSS), and general portfolio management.
If so, why are they discriminating against TM associates? Surely both TM and patent associates are putting in the same hours!
Iykyk ;)
There are several associates in the market who boast of being gold medallists in their college which too is many years ago but still can't draft basic documents in the profession. They won't learn but expect to be spoon fed and will cry toxic at the drop of a hat.
A basic Google search reveals that the firm been around longer than most of you have been on this planet. So take a chill pill and focus on finding yourself a job.j
Good lawyers/students understand that definitions of "good" are not self-evident, much less any definition in language. Which is why almost all statutes begin with a definitions clause in section 2, even if the meaning is considered to be obvious.
Bad students/lawyers have no clue of this and try to be wisecracks when asked for their definition of things.
The teachers above produce the former.
Also hearing that there is some budget allocation for team retreats. What’s that about?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-merck-propecia-suicide-exclusive-idUSKBN2A32XU
Any opinion on each of the teams mentioned above will be helpful.
- Bringing back Bsc. LLB (Hons.)
- Changing the Examination Pattern.
- Hiring better faculty and making existing (good ones) permanent.
- Scrapping the MBA (Insurance) program immediately.
Why not to have some dignity and leave with respect. Why disrespect first and then apologies ?
Like I said corp firms hire the way they do because it works out for them economically to not waste time or money on a long process for every new hire. They know many of you will not perform and never rise above being an associate. They also know they will have to fire some of you. They’re making a bet. They need hundreds of people a year and they’re optimising their process.
This isn’t about them. This is about you. You need to take control and responsibility for your choices and your life. Be an adult.
When you have no argument one resorts to ad homonym . I’m far better educated than you are cause I don’t ask for evidence and then just dismiss it. You’re embarrassing yourself.
But let’s say you are a Rhodes scholar then things will be very easy for you to solve as your career will skyrocket through deep pockets of academia and you will socially gain a lot of respect. In this respect a Rhodes llm will be far better.
Corporate jobs in India are not that lucrative anymore. Toppers of NLS nlu Delhi and nalsar don’t opt for corporate jobs anymore (if you research closely). They try to pursue a llm or an interconnected masters in finance plus law. Maybe academia but that’s mostly because they want to. Some practise litigation in London. And maybe magic circle firm.
Not intending to be defamatory but after the controversy at AZB , Indian law firms in totality have lost a bit respect for their policy of overwork.
Mumbai folks, corporate lawyers - are you guys attending this? Is it worth buying a ticket ?