Negligible chances of you finding a law firm/ company which offers WFH for a legal role. Practically, you have the following two options:

1. Pivot your career: Leave legal practice and join a legal ed-tech, like lawsikho, which offers permanent WFH. Look into allied legal careers, like law firm marketing/ branding etc. The former is a better option as the pay scale is likely going to be better given your experience.

2. Freelance legal work: Build a solid LinkedIn profile, go on Upwork, Fiverr etc. and take on freelance legal work. The caveat is, this will take some time to work out. You'll not find clients immediately. But you'll get to practice law.

No point applying to colleges you can't afford! Your options are then:

- Applying to less competitive colleges where you may get a scholarship: consider EU, Canada, New Zealand etc.

- Stick to doing a PhD in India. NLSIU as your top target. You may also think about JNU (international law).

Michellen guide does not cover India, therefore no indian resident restaurants have made it in the guide. Besides the "guide" is very french haute-cuisine inclined, and many great chefs haven't made it in even after running multiple critically acclaimed and popular restaurants. Only the tokyo gastronomy scene has been able to break through the archaisms of the whole system.

Nice work culture in lit teams? Exists only in fantasies man. Started at a T2 in Delhi, it was kinda okay culture wise with bad pay, kind of decent hrs. Moved to T1 in 2021, bad culture, bad hrs, good pay. That’s true for most T1s. Only if you compare, some are better than others, but isn’t the bar already too low?

Hi! I’m an A1 working with a T1 and I’ve been unable to find a cook as per my requirements. I’m looking to start meal prepping over the weekends so that I don’t have to eat outside everyday.

I have long work hours and hence I want to try this out. Any tips on how to go about it?

What I understand from this long gibberish is this -

1. work so hard for your law firm that it breaks you physically and then be proud of your bad health

2. Anyone who desires a decent WLB is an idiot

3. People can learn only by coercion through a senior

4. Have the attitude of "my way or the highway"

5. This fellow hates his/her entire team

6. S/he suffers from Stockholm syndrome - loves selfsacrificing for the sake of boss - expects others to do the same

I come from a Tier-3 NLU and have witnessed some really obvious cases of Arbitrary marking of answer sheets of students. I've seen almost the same answers mentioning the same sections and same case laws being marked totally different. Is it normal everywhere? Also, does this happen as well in competitive exams like Judicial Services and UPSC?

Hello Everyone,
I recently completed my LL.M. from WBNUJS and my B.A., LL.B. (Hons.) from Nirma University with four consecutive gold medals. Although I am preparing for the judicial exams, I believe I am more inclined towards academics and being a law faculty. I aspire to have an LL.M. from Oxford, but my financial situation is not such that I can afford it. Many of my friends and faculty members have also suggested me to join academics as they believe I can be good at that. Please suggest to me if I would be able to get any scholarships for Oxford and also what should be the approach to be in legal academia.
That would be very helpful. (Just to mention here that I have an inclination towards Jurisprudence in general, and criminal and feminist jurisprudence in particular, also I have been taking interactive sessions for my juniors since 2020 about various academic and non-academic queries)

You would wear the same formal dresses in that place of education while meeting some people, as opposed to others. I think that's what was meant. I am not the OP. Personally, I won't like that stance by any teacher, but can't help agreeing that it would be their right to demand that within their own rooms so long as they are not trying to impose that in places where the student has a right to be in, like classrooms, exam halls, common rooms, mess etc. As for some people not willing to join law firms, that's not really the point, is it? You would do that for any recruiter or during events.

When the likes of institutions like IISc, IITD, IITM, IITKGP, IITB, IITG, and IIT-BHU,.....celebrate this achievement, we are in good company.

https://skilloutlook.com/education/iisc-bangalore-iit-delhi-kharagpur-bombay-madras-have-largest-number-of-top-scientists-in-india

https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/news/story/iit-guwahati-researchers-worlds-top-2-scientists-list-2285213-2022-10-14

Ryna Workman, the president of New York University’s student bar association, has lost a job offer after they sent an email to the school on Tuesday, blaming Israel for the Hamas attack. The 24-year-old, who identifies as non-binary, wrote in the letter that "Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life."

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The screenshot of the email soon went viral on social media, causing an outrage. Following this, New York City law firm Winston & Strawn released a statement saying they heard about their “inflammatory comments regarding Hamas’ recent terrorist attack” and “accordingly, the Firm has rescinded the law student’s offer of employment.”

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/us/nyu-law-harvard-hamas-israel.html

https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/anti-israel-comments-prompt-winston-strawn-rescind-nyu-law-students-job-offer-2023-10-10/

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/nyu-law-student-bar-president-ryna-workman-loses-job-offer-after-blaming-israel-for-hamas-attack-article-104326363

Not exactly. NLS's top litigation product (per appearance free + profile) is Gopal Sankaranarayanan who is 3 years after Sudhir.

NLSs top transactional lawyer (per deal average) is Raghubir Menon who is 3 years junior to Sudhir.

The top academics from NLS like Tarunabh Khaitan, Shyam Balganesh, Rohit De, Dev Gangjee and even Shamnad Basheer are junior to Sudhir.

Hi. It’s sad but the NLU bias does kind of exist. But it should not stop you honestly.

I’m from a Non NLU and a government college with zero alumni in the big firms. I had to start inhouse, joined a Tier 3 firm, and made a switch to a Tier-1 firm where i am working currently.

You’ll need to stand out and so will your CV. Write papers, do moots, socialize and make good connections. Don’t lost hope there’s still a long way to go, just keep working hard and eventually reach a bigger firm/place wherever you want to work.

Buddy, I was talking about dual degree LLMs. Keep shut if you don't understand.

Jindal Global Law School
The dual LLB/LLM degree program with Jindal Global Law School offers students beginning their degrees in India the opportunity to finish their studies at Fletcher and earn an LLM.

The two dual degree programs include the five-year BA, LLB (Hons)/LLM and BBA, LLB (Hons)/LLM degree programs, enabling students to follow the Jindal BA, LLB (Hons) and BBA, LLB (Hons) programs for four years, and follow the Fletcher LLM program for one year, and obtain the BA, LLB (Hons) or BBA, LLB (Hons) from Jindal and the LLM from Fletcher. Additionally, a three-year LLB/LLM degree program designed for students with prior bachelor’s degrees, enables students to follow the Jindal LLB program for two years, and follow the Fletcher LLM program for one year, and obtain the LLB from Jindal and the LLM from Fletcher.

Interested students should work with the international office at Jindal to coordinate their Fletcher application. Please note that the Fletcher LLM will not qualify students to sit for U.S. bar exams.

The Gifted Programme
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The Global Immersion Fellowship for Talent & Educational Development (GIFTED) Programme provides a unique opportunity for students enrolled in our LL.M. programme to pursue international education in India with defined pathways to the LL.M. programme at our renowned partner universities. At present, the participating law schools are:

- School of Law, Texas A&M University
- Maurer School of Law, Indiana University

Selected students spend their Fall semester at JGLS and complete all compulsory courses and then move to the partner university in the Spring semester. Upon successful completion of the programme, the student will be awarded a dual LL.M. degree (each from JGU & the partner university respectively). The selected students will have an opportunity to complete two LL.M. s in one year.

Jgls-Brunel Dual Ll.M. Programme
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The JGLS-Brunel Dual LL.M. collaboration provides a unique opportunity for JGLS students to secure two LL.M. degrees. The selected students spend one year at JGLS and another year of study at Brunel Law School to pursue the Masters of Law (LL.M.) programme.

Jgls - Qmul 1+1 Arrangement
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The JGLS – QMUL 1+1 Collaboration provides a unique opportunity for JGLS students to secure two LL.M. degrees. The selected students spend one year at JGLS and another year of study at the Queen Mary University of London to pursue the Masters of Law (LL.M.) programme.

https://fletcher.tufts.edu/programs/masters/joint-dual-programs

https://jgu.edu.in/cpgls/international-collaborations/

That’s not true. It’s too early to judge the impact of Sudhir’s administration on graduate outcomes - but it’s just not true that Sudhir is just a theory person. This person founded clpr, he’s worked on several government projects he was on the Kasturirangan committee, he’s worked on urban planning in Bangalore even, and he’s on facebooks oversight board. He may not litigate - but his work as a public policy practitioner is considerable. He doesn’t fit neatly into a box of this or that - academic or practitioner- he’s done multiple things over his career.

I think times are changing and yes our parent's generation this was the case. But I don't see the coming generations following the social structure where 99% of defence wives are homemakers and they hell they shouldn't follow that. A transactional lawyer opting for an in-office or a complete WFH model is absolutely going to be exhausting anyway, but why shouldn't one try? WFH should be an option even otherwise, especially for people with their families living in Tier 2/3 cities.

Asking this in light of Harvardgate/Hamasgate, but with a specific Indian perspective.

Do HR managers at CAM, SAM, AZB etc go through social media handles of students, or Google for the names of students, to see if they expressed left-wing or controversial political views? Do they then filter these names out? As law firms advancing capitalism and privatisation, and pushing for intellectual property rights of American companies, they would presumably consider left-wing views to be incompatible with the values of the firm? Particularly far-left and Marxist views? As also views supporting religious extremism? Do they also ask such subtle questions at interviews?

Incidentally, my friend sent me this funny clip from an old Satyajit Ray movie, which encapsulates the issue well! We have exactly these types of rebel students in my NLU and I guess all NLUs....LMAO!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyBVBXTFWVs

LI moderator: please star my comment for sharing this clip. 😝

You are grossly incorrect, at an age of +30, it is women who are there on those sites and not their father. They directly coordinate. And they are looking for a better financial status.

Have met more than a dozen of the above. So from a statistical view point, I think otherwise.

No, it was not about giving the go ahead. The amount of money that the Centre had asked the State to pay up wasn't possible. So both the university and the State asked to be able to get the accreditation and then the university could have raised its own money through courses. The Centre refused point blank. As it is, the Centre hates JU despite all its achievements through the years. This was the perfect excuse not to give it the IOE tag. It could give the non-existent JIO University the tag, but not one that has already proven itself. This was petty politics, plain and simple. It being in an Opposition run state adds to the problem.

bhai this is different na. The A0 and A1 may be getting lesser bonus or whatever, but you are employed safely and working, unless fired, But you are employed.

Yahan tho assessment ke barein mein bolraha hu na, I interned with 5 firms, sabka yahin hai, can someone please share what I should do. I have another internship at Indus in some months too.

Losing hope,

Regards.

Sorry for the rant, but I've been meaning to say this for a while (built up from some extremely bad experience I've had working across SRL on some matters)

It's a simple business formula that SRL follows (a lot of times at the expense of clients). They currently seem to have 70+ lawyers (as per LinkedIn), but at the same time, they have only 2 partners! 2 counsels (and they are not that senior either, 2017 grad and 2015 grad)! And just 3 Senior Associates! The rest are just associates! The reason for so many exclamation marks are that it's just extraordinary how one can run such a firm. Where foreign law firms run at a partner to associate ratio of 1:2 or 1:3 at max; and Indian firms run at perhaps 1:6 to 1:8 (which is by itself absolutely poor), how can one firm even delivery proper legal advice with a ratio of 1:35?!

They make it more sellable by saying that young lawyers get more opportunity - that's great, but at what cost? It's more important for a junior lawyer to be guided properly, rather than just giving them the exposure. Their M&A/PE team is a run by a team of 3 people (of which the most experienced associate has a 3-4 years of experience.

Of course, they will be able to pay associates money that they published about (if they perform) - because they are literally doing partner level work. It's highly probable that client advice goes without partner sign-offs, because it's impossible for a partner to do all kinds of work - M&A, investments, tech regulations, employment, litigation (!!), all this while being extremely active of LinkedIn.

It's unfortunate but true. Indian armed forces are essentialy patriarchal, where the man is supposed to sacrifice for the nation and his wife is supposed to just be his wife. The social structures within the forces are designed accordingly. Hence 99% of defence wives are housewives. I too am from an armed forces family btw.

Just came across this post on ET about a new law firm merger between BTG Legal and Advaya Legal. Anyone has any more intel about these firms and the new firm, BTG Advaya?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/btg-legal-and-advaya-legal-set-to-merge-to-become-btg-advaya/articleshow/103857368.cms?from=mdr

But where did the IITD director say that people should learn practice before theory? He said that practical learning should be inculcated in existing classroom teaching. He said that IITD was also inviting alumni from industry. Sudhir then arrogantly dismissed what he said and said shallow version of craft etc. Sudhir has zero clue of engineering and what is taught at IITD. Why did he have to clap back like that?

Pray tell the name of one individual faculty that mandates a dress code before entering their office?

And it's silly to equate faculty to law firm partners. A place of education is for students to learn in a open, holistic, convivial and conducive atmosphere. Not a restrained cottage industry. Equating the two defeats the very purpose of an education that allows freedom. What if the student does not want to enter a law firm? Why force down law firm expectations indiscriminately?

anyone who has published more than two papers which are listed on web of sciences and has been cited by at least 6 papers which are also listed on web of sciences will come in the top 2%

that is the bar, now you can decide if you want to celebrate it

Stanford thing is just gimmick to grab eyeballs, I have been getting these emails from the first year it started.

PS: Patanjali also cites this 'accolade'

It is what it is. It has always been like that. JU is a good university, and the centre was ready to convert it into an IIT. The WB state government (in all its wisdom) did not give the go-ahead. Hard luck - big loss to the state, faculty, and students. But yes, national universities will be much better funded and supported - for that national universities (those with INI status) don't have to be apologetic.

I recently heard that jindal has got fungus problems in many housing leading to short term and long term sickness in kids. I also heard if you complaint admin blames it on you and also ignores your complaints/refuses to acknowledge the problem. Should younger batches join jindal due to unsanitary conditions?

PS: Let us not forget the lizard rice, gloves bhajia and potato mashing incident at jindal

The same thing even happens to Associates (A0 and A1). The SA's and PA's tell them to their face that their performance is good, but when the performance review / appraisal session happens, the A0 or A1 is told to their face stuff like "you are burdening the SA/PA", "you are not working hard enough", "it is good both for you and for us if you start looking elsewhere". All of this when the SA's and PA's hardly offer any guidance, training. Asking questions for doubts is looked down upon as a lack of knowledge, and when you do some work and it goes wrong, the same SA/PA says that "you should have asked me bro, no matter how silly your doubt is". Very hypocritical and dishonest work culture.

Really sorry to hear what you went through, Mr/Ms. OP. If they were not happy with your performance, they should have been upfront about it and told you where exactly it is that you are going wrong. Shows that they lack basic decency, empathy and are least bothered about others. On the bright side though, in the long run, you will be thanking your lucky stars that you did not end up at a toxic and cunning place like this.

I’d think most of those Rhodes scholars are actually not “left leaning” but moderate. Sudhir certainly is a moderate - he doesn’t like Bhakts but he has equal disdain for lefties who get to esoteric with their work. Menaka fought for gay rights but on other issues she’s not a leftist by any means. Raag Yadava I hear is quite interested in teaching and learning “Hindu philosophy” not something lefties typically graduate to.

I think most academically successful people tend to not view the world as black and white , not follow dogma and make their own mind up and change their mind several times as they grow.

This conversation is not about leftist sympathies, this is about supporting terrorism. If leftists forget than then they are truly lost.

This is so silly! Sudhir isn’t saying we should only teach theory idiot. He’s saying we should teach first principles before we teach other stuff. If you only chase trends you might as well be doing a certificate course. Clinical courses have improved since Sudhir came to nls. The legal aid cell does real work, there are more research centres on campus and more opportunities for students to get involved in real work, and there are better people applying to teach electives.

Understand that building a good clinical programme doesn’t happen over night. You need to consider the needs and wants of the community you’re trying to serve and build confidence with them which is hard to do when law students come and go and don’t really stick around for the long haul, you need to find someone to head the programme who is already quite established and trustworthy with the target population and that person needs to stick around a long while and be able to successfully guide students through a clinical course.

These things take time. There are more interests involved than just your CV.

And students in universities abroad do plenty of learning first principles and legal theory. No one jumps into practice without knowing the law. What would you even do ? Move paper around ?

"This Director guy" has actually taught at foreign universities, unlike Sudhir. Moreover, his list of top notch peer reviewed publications dwarf a large number of NLSIU faculty combined, including Sudhir. So keep your ridiculous claims to yourself. As for Infosys prize, lol! Since when is that an indicator of merit?

I know of many professors in those very universities you named, who require students to dress professionally before granting them an appointment to meet on a one to one basis. So your notion of what's acceptable elsewhere is flawed. What those places don't have is a dress code for classrooms and common parts of the campus. Nor does NUJS. If you wish to retain your right of dressing the way you want to, then the faculty retains the right to receive only those people in their room who would put in as much effort as she wants them to. It's part of the same right. If you refuse to acknowledge that, then you are a pseudo-liberal and pseudo-woke.

As for it being pathetic, so is your effort to dress up for law firm partners. Or are you claiming that you should also be allowed to give your interviews in shorts? You aren't.

12 of the 25 came before the first batch of NALSAR graduated.

15 before the first batch of NUJS graduated.

18 before the first batch of GNLU graduated.

22 before the first batch of NLUD graduated.

Only 3 Rhodes scholars from NLSIU from the decade spanning 2013 to 2022, when all the leading NLUs were in competition. 2 since 2015. 1 since 2017. 0 since 2018.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6TBpgZ0Jws&ab_channel=IndiaToday

IITD director: "My students worked on a sensor for a class project and received an award in France for innovation."

NIFT director: "My students designed materials for the G20 Summit"

Sudhir: "Shallow version of craft".

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An Indian LLM is not respected, so go for a double degree where you get an Indian and an overseas LLM. Jindal offers it, possibly NLSIU and NALSAR too. Alternatively, consider an MBA from IIM or even an MA from JNU or TISS (f you are math-phobic). These degrees are respected more than LLMs.

There are many MA programmes at JNU. List here. An MA in pol science should be easy for lawyers. You can choose a constitution-related topic for your thesis. An MA from JNU also opens doors for PhDs abroad. JNU has a big alumni cabal in universities all over the world.

https://www.shiksha.com/university/jawaharlal-nehru-university-delhi-4225/courses/ma-bc

I am from a fauji family,

Armed Forces husband is a really bad option for your (OR ANY Wife's) career. Most Officers spouses are housewifes. And your horrible transfers and social duties (parties, wife welfare association) make it impossible to do any meaningful work.

Break up with that Armed forces guy if you want a career.

Lol most of my friends in their early 20s dated guys who were broke af because they "loved him and job mil jayegi". But experience had to open their world to guys who aren't lazy af and actually go to work and earn shit. Nobody wants unemployed spouses.

Also when you marry an unemployed woman, dont you expect her to work in the house as well or something to even it? Will an unemployed man do that, lol just for one Insta reel that's it.

You're looking for a wife on a matrimonial site? You know that no woman will willingly join these scam places of connecting with strangers online? It's the dad who wants a financial well-off man to look after his daughter. Maybe if you looked at dating women who are colleagues or seniors, you will know women dont give a f if you earn less.

But obviously, why will a well-off person for that matter settle for a broke guy? Why will a dad be fine with that as well? Will you let your daughter marry a broke litigator?

Also why do you generalise everything like this? Fir toh mein bolu ki men who are better well off will ask for more dowry as well to settle that? iska kya bologe?

So you dont understand social circumstances in our society? When 90% women are married off without allowing them to pursue higher education with men. Also the fathers decide that the man has to be well-off. And now when there's divorce without any fault with the woman mandating maintenance, you are blaming the woman?

Honestly and no BS. I for my marriage through a matrimony site met a lot of women. Those who primarily rejected me were people who wanted Ambanis even though they were more or slightly more from a better financial background - not boasting but a South Mumbai guy, born and bred. It was only people who were from a much much lesser financial background (far off suburbs, difference cities) who said yes. So as much cliche as it may sound, women want men who earn more than them. From a guy who was also happy to sit at home and make the woman chase her dreams - don't want her financial support at the same time, God has been kind.

The entrance examination for the 3 year LLB programme is a breeze. Last year around 1900 candidates wrote the examination. The CLAT examination, for the five year programme, attracts around 75,000 candidates. The LLM programme perhaps has greater competition for seats than the 3 year LLB.

Sudhir is a Rhodes scholar and was a research fellow at Columbia. This IITD director guy did his BTech, MTech and PhD all from IIT Bombay. So Sudhir has more global exposure and can speak about practices worldwide. Sudhir is also an Infosys Prize winner. So he's much more knowledgeable.

Let arrogant firms like Clifford Chance or White & Case or CAM boycott left-wing students. It is these firms who will be the sufferers, because most of the top students in any law school in the world will be left-leaning. It's just given that critical thinkers and innovative thinkers lean left. Case in point: look at the Rhodes scholars from NLUs. Barring Arghya Sengupta, I can't think of any that is not left-leaning.

So these firms will take second-tier talent, while the toppers will prefer other firms. Butt in fairness, I should say that CAM has recruited many left-wing students, so it shows that Cyril Shroff is smart!

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/jindal-power-only-player-in-fray-for-grounded-goair/articleshow/104355332.cms?from=mdr

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/jindal-power-submits-eoi-for-grounded-go-first-is-the-only-bidder-11518551.html

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JGLS will be hoping that this results in the following:

- A few recruitments for legal jobs: Both at Go Air and the law firm handling the work

- An Aviation Law centre and a focus on teaching aviation law: which, in turn, could widen the recruiter pool

- Possibly a helicopter service from Sonipat to Delhi. If GoAir has a helicopter fleet, then the university helipad can already be used. The current cab charges are exorbitant and a chopper service will cost almost the same.

- Corporate discount on GoAir flights for students.