Kid, read section 356 of the new penal code on repeal and savings. "Notwithstanding the repeal of the Code, it shall not affect any proceeding, investigation or remedy in respect of any such penalty or punishment as aforesaid, and any such proceeding or remedy may be instituted, continued or enforced, and any such penalty may be imposed as if that Code had not been repealed." You should read Constitution but don't skip basic readings. Now, go to class

Why do so many people cry over franchise T20 cricket (IPL, Big Bash, Aus T20 leagues, etc) eventually taking priority over national cricket? Other than "nationalism" I do not find any other reason. Most of us lawyers do not have time to watch an entire test match, or even a one day International. Besides, national team pays peanuts in comparison to what top leagues pay. This is why more and more cricketers are prioritizing leagues, yes they are looking out for better monetary prospectives and I see absolutely nothing wrong with it because heck, we all want better pay.

BCCI is so insecure about players abandoning national matches that they have a blanket ban policy on non-retired Indians partaking in foreign franchises. Similarly, Afghanistan Cricket Board took action against players who opted for IPL and league cricket. If it wasn't for these authoritarian rules and regulations set up by these corrupt cricket bodies, national cricket, test cricket in particular, would have been mostly dead a long time ago.

Personally, I care more about my IPL team winning than whoever wins the world cup. I know many more at my Mumbai-based T1 firm who think alike. How widespread is this phenomenon? I suspect many are scared to admit because of potential backlash by nationalists.

We have different standards for what qualifies as good research I suppose. Claudine gay also had decent research until someone looked under the hood and found a lot of plagiarism. I hadn’t heard of Sameera Dalwai until this happened and I work in womens rights and allied fields- she’s not some leading scholar by any metric.

I don’t mind gender and sexuality being taught in the classroom. I do mind the methodology this teacher used. Instead of asking the class to collectively participate in judging their peers as potential dates - she could have asked them to write a reflective essay. She could have discussed studies on dating behaviour. It seems a small insignificant point that she was trying to make which I for one don’t find controversial at all. Of course people want to date and marry those most similar to them or those who have more status/power. I don’t know what person thinks the best way to illustrate this was to literally open a dating app and get students to be mean girls.

What are we supposed to do about human dating preferences anyway ? What does all this talk mean except to guilt women into dating men they don’t desire ? Because the men won’t be forced into anything… this exercise was pure woke posturing by this person. And she rightly got caught out for it.

My advice is not to get to worked up over political divides on campus. I can assure you that the vast majority of campus lefties will move to the right, once they join law firms. Trust me on this. I work with a partner at CAM who was a proper member of the SFI while in college.

Why do you wish to do CA? DO you have any legitimate goal to benefit from doing CA? Like being a tax lawyer or something? Else I would suggest to focus on the decent college you are getting thru CLAT. Intern, moot, write papers, publish focus on the course wholly an solely, no point in dancing in two different courses.

Economy: The general narrative seems to be that Modi will return to power and the Indian economy will grow strongly, even if the global economy is struggling. But there may be other reasons to be worry. The Israel-Palestine war is now leading to other problems like the Houthi seizing ships. Rising oil prices are a big threat. Also, China and Pakistan will relentlessly try and harm India. There is also the threat of a new Covid wave.

Law: After coming back to power, Modi may finally focus on legal reforms, including liberalisation. This is the last sector of the country that is still in licence raj mode. However, NLU nationalisation doesn’t seem likely.

Tech: Verdict is still out on AI.

Since their first batch has not yet graduated, therefore you won't get any placement data one way or another. Regardless of the identity of the institution or the hype surrounding it, I would advise students not to opt for it until it has had at least a couple of batches graduate and proven itself.

why is this tagged as trollish? he stood for elections! he is a from a big law school. don't people have a right to ask questions? so we are all trolls who question how lokenath allegedly abused power and allegedly tried to have unnatural sexual intercourse as per section 377 of the indian penal code?

People from NLUD often leave T1 firms, a trend possibly observed in other law schools except for GNLU. They choose to pursue endeavors that create a tangible difference in people's lives. For instance, Harshit Kohli worked at KCO, later leaving to start a venture focused on uplifting farmers. His initiative has significantly increased the income of numerous farmers in Fatehpur effectively doubling their earnings - this is just one example

Kian Ganz,

Regarding this thread https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/316245-reality-of-sexual-harassment-cases

You are called upon to immediately delete all comments naming me or referencing me in this thread failing which a criminal case will be initiated against you and this website.

The following comment by me should instead be published.

"Regarding Ms Seema Sapra - She faces a threat to her life on account of two main reasons. The first are her whistle-blower corruption and fraud complaints against General Electric Company which have not been investigated. The second are her sexual assault and harassment complaints against two prominent lawyers. These have also not been investigated.

This platform has repeatedly been used to spread disinformation against her and to target her. Any attempt to do that again will result in a court proceeding.

Also, Ms Seema Sapra has never filed a PIL. She has filed writ petitions as an aggrieved person. Not PILs.

Ms Seema Sapra does not want her cases or her situation discussed on Legally India due to an ongoing criminal conspiracy and attempts to murder her for which she has initiated proceedings in the Delhi High Court and the Supreme Court. Further information can be sought directly from her at seema.sapra@gmail.com"

Seema Sapra

This is indeed Seema Sapra

These claims don't need "proof" because everyone knows about the depraved stale strategies in sexual crimes that when you can't deal with complaint,destroy the complainants character and credibility.That disgusting devise is usually calling the woman "paranoid" to discredit her complaints.And if this,below,is what a Judge faces I can completely believe the claims of OP.The reason someone asks,unreasonably, "PROOF" in such claims is only because direct proof of such matters is not just difficult but rendered impossible because the lawyers of accused usually execute or direct these crimes to ensure leaving no "Proof"."Proof" being asked in your comment itself betrays the tall claim of 20 years experience because all litigation lawyers know that is the norm in cases concerning sexual crimes .If a woman Judge has to beg for Justice what regular women face is far too painful.Its documented by the woman Judge that the lawyers in Court have insulted her and accused her (a judge) of a troubled mind aka...are the woman judge is "paranoid", right?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.themooknayak.com/amp/story/sexual-violence/female-civil-judge-in-uttar-pradesh-seelse euthanasia.

Sexual ViolenceFemale Civil Judge in Uttar Pradesh Seeks Euthanasia Over Workplace Harassment
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In her plea, she questions her ability to deliver justice to others when she feels hopeless herself.

Satya Prakash Bharti

Published on: 15 Dec 2023, 4:18 pm

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Banda- In Uttar Pradesh, a woman civil judge in Banda has written a poignant letter to Chief Justice of India (CJI) DY Chandrachud, seeking euthanasia. The three-page letter expresses her disillusionment with the Protection of Women from Sexual Harassment (POSH) Act, stating that it is a significant falsehood where her concerns go unheard.

She also mentioned an incident from her Barabanki posting, where she faced misconduct from the Bar Association office bearers, the letter reveals her physical and mental distress, compelling her to seek permission to end her life. She accuses the District Judge of unreasonable demands, highlighting concerns about women's workplace safety. Chief Justice DY Chandrachud has expedited an investigation, acknowledging the seriousness of the matter.

The junior division judge experienced humiliation in a crowded court a year ago on October 7, 2022. She documented this incident, in the official records, suggesting mental exploitation.

According to the record, at 11:10, the judge began her judicial duties when Bar General Secretary Ritesh Kumar Mishra, Senior Vice President Mohan Singh, and other officials, along with advocates, entered the courtroom, disrupting the judicial proceedings. The advocates reportedly threatened the judge, questioning her support and accusing her of having a troubled mins

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Inculcate a habit of reading books. Ideally, I would suggest you to read Legal autobiographies or jurisprudence but for now just read; this should suffice. Also, make a habit of reading business newspapers. If you feel you're not proficient in English grammar, make it a point to improve it before your college starts. Have fun, and all the best!

Hello, please ignore the trolls. I am your senior in college, here to assist you. GNLU has these starter guidelines, which include every important thing you need for your college, it's a PDF, I believe your immediate seniors will share the same. They're a bit old as they haven't been revised, but they still work. For any help, reach out to your seniors, or else, wait for a while, and the committees will start with their introductory sessions. All the best, welcome to GNLU, and take care.

You argument is law firms don't do this because its not commercially viable or necessary for them to make money?I have to ask -Are you not from India?Do you have experience in litigation?If you did, you wouldn't make such an argument.

Law firms and lawyers employ such witness and victim intimidation practices outside Court and pressure them to withdraw these cases or give hostile or false testimony.This is real but since it happens outside the Courts the interference in administration of justice does not come on record.

Law firms doing this for big clients,which definitely make it commercially viable, is already well known in legal circles.And where companies get involved, the law firm violating laws is pretty much a norm since the law firm will not want to lose the company as client.

Wishing everyone on this forum, a Happy New Year. I know this may be tough, it may be impossible, it may seem difficult. But remember, this is life. There will be more downs than up. There will be more failures than success.

Don't surrender yourself around people who treat you badly. Know your worth. You are smart, believe it. You are strong, believe it. You are worth it, believe it. Just keep doing what makes you passionate. What makes you happy, do it. People are pathetic, they once dreamt of things and failed to achieve it and therefore discourage you. Yet you have to realise you are not them, you will succeed. You will overcome all the challenges in front of you. It's cause you believe in you.

Things maybe tough today. With studies, jobs, work, family, relationships. But believe in yourself. You will get through them. Just remember to have your set of morals and follow them to the T. Stay true to your standards that you've set for yourself.

Hope this year you give your best, don't worry about the rest. As long as you know you're giving your best, you should not fret, keep moving on and push yourself better than the limit.

Love only three things this year. I, me and myself !

Let's help each other to be a better version of ourselves. Peace out ✌🏽

The salary is at par with tier 1. You can expect 18L for fresher. Work is decent I guess. Culture isn't great. People love to micromanage and scrutinize. The partners are old school and it reflects on thier leadership ethics and qualities. They'll tell you when you can eat lunch. They'll tell you that you can't eat for more than 15 mins. They'll tell you that don't talk to the person sitting next to you. Don't be on your phone too much. You're taking too many smoke breaks. They'll also try to tell you what time to sleep/wake up.

So you get what I mean by old school.

You'll have to take your own call given that all law firms are toxic in their own way. You are the best person to know what you can adapt to or not. Good luck.

"only CAs, who like to do tax litigation, are the one's who will study law and not really to join law firms."

Looks like you have worked neither with big 4 nor the big law firms. Go checkout the qualifications of people working in the tax teams of any big law firm in India - most would be CAs who would have joined laterally from EY, KMPG, or PWC. The primary reason for most was higher pay at law firms.

And my dude, take a look at this thread and see who started the pissing competition. I have been around on LI for a longgg time and trust me, on every thread concerning a CA+LLB topic, it is always a CA who would suddenly start shitting on lawyers. Take a look in this thread itself. I mean look at the at kind of comments people from your profession come up with.

"CAs should not pursue LLB. Why would a US green card holder apply for Bangladesh work permit?"

"LLB degrees will be worth less than toilet paper"

Absolute crass.

It's interesting how so many people have so many opinions about what 'true' human rights activists would do and that human rights leaders do not share this opinion. Given the disproportionate attention to the hostages, human rights activists are trying to also communicate the completely ignored suffering of the Palestinian people and to stop the ongoing murder of the people including children. While what happened to the hostages is appalling, there has been no shortage of attention and no refusal to acknowledge their humanity. Maybe you don't consider the murder of Palestinian babies as urgent and in need of everyone's attention but that is probably why you are not a human rights activist and shouldn't be telling them what to do or say.

Bhai, Driving classes leenei ke baad agar plane uadanei ka confidence aa bhi Gaya aapkei paas, to aapko plane de kaun raha hai ? It's not whether you can do it or not, the question is whether the partner would extend you an offer in a different practice area where you have zilch experience. There might be exceptions here and there, but they are not the rule.

Hey,I am a girl from humanities with Maths stream and I recently wrote CLAT and cleared it with 900 rank. I am getting a decent law college, I am thinking of giving CA foundation May attempt. Not that I am very determined to be a CA but I just want to get another degree along with BA LLB. I think 5 year LLB is already a long time to complete a course and I will not be left with much time afterwards as I’ll be in mid 20s. Please don’t make a joke out of this that you won’t be able to handle and everything, I really want honest suggestions from you guys, I really believe so I can do CA in like 7 years atleast. So, is it like a good idea? Please be kind.

Regards

Lol the people commenting the tier 3 colleges thing and transitioning are using 1-2 examples of students for the same. Do you know the numerous engineers in Infosys and the likes making 5LPA regularly. Further CTC is the biggest scam I know. Someone I know closely graduated top of their class from a IIT at 30 LPA from Microsoft. They made 1.12 Lakhs inhand. I asked him how?. He replied that 10 Lakhs is bonus to be given after working for 3 years. And a lot of it is RSUs.

Notwithstanding this, right now the boom of the market has stalled. But so has everywhere.

Lall & Sethi - for (1) fresher with sound knowledge of IP law and relevant internship experience - 34K - 38K. (2) fresher with minimal knowledge and experience in IP (if you manage to get hired with your positive attitude) - 32K - 34K.

Also the firm follows a policy wherein you get half the aforesaid amount as your salary until you get provisionally enrolled with the state Bar.

Hello everyone ! I Did BBALLB FROM GGSIPU 2019 BATCH in 2021-22 I did pgdclm from ilk but after doing Llb I wasn't able to join anyone to start, can anyone tell me about any senior adv or top law firms to start with no prior exp and does anybody no anyone who can help me to get their.

Hi! I'll be starting college this July and I'm a bit confused about the 'essential' non-negotiable required in college. For reference, I'll be joining GNLU.

Can seniors let me know about this? and tips/survival hacks in general for college? Hopefully this thread will help othee upcoming

Wow. What a thread. looking at this response, I'm sure many persons can write a long-a** reply to this but it won't introduce you to real life. So won't reply to this completely and would wait for you to come to real life to get your answers.

And yeah, just so you know, saying this from bottom of heart, CAs don't care about being lawyer, the CA degree opens enough opportunities. The only CAs, who like to do tax litigation, are the one's who will study law and not really to join law firms.

Let's not do a contest to just piss on a profession, as many have already written.

Hello, i recently got accepted for internship in Nuli&Nuli, i applied there based on one article i read here, "Firms who have done the most filing in SC in 2018" and nuli&nuli was on 9th position. can anyone here tell me, how this firm is doing in 2023? How much do they pay their associates and all?

I'm not derogating at all as my father is a CA as well and he came from a poor family, I'm grateful to how rich this course has made our family. But I would like to object to your salary argument, consulting salaries at mbb have a ctc of 35-40lpa (at iim abc/fms) but the in hand is very low (1.5-1.8 per month). This is the figure my seniors who are at bain/bcg have told me they are getting and this is at consultant level POST top mba. CAs get hired at an analyst (undergrad level) at these firms which pays half of this (I have friends who are business analysts at mbb too) so the in hand is not much. I am just saying some professors are superior than others like engineering is superior than law in terms of pay and work life, I can say this without derogating any profession

My reply was exactly on point - which was that, it is ironic for CAs to shit on lawyers when CAs themselves have recently started obtaining law degrees as well. I agree with you that practising CAs would get a law degree only because they would want to expand their litigation practice, but the only reason CAs, who are 'employed' in big 4 firms, would get a law degree is to be able to get a salary boost (whether by jumping to a law firm or by being promoted internally).

But all the other stuff that you have rambled on about CAs expanding into new fields like tech, business side of things etc etc, is the prime example of what you guys have learned from mugging up stuff and writing exams for 4 years - which is to vomit up random points which would have no relevance at all to the discussion. Even lawyers have roles in upcoming fields be it tech, finance, or business side of things. However what has this got anything to do with this thread or my reply (which was to point out the irony)?

So anyways lets come back to the main topic - should lawyers be worried that CAs are also obtaining law degrees? Well, it depends on which practice area you are focusing on. If you plan to work in the field IP, criminal, arbitration, or maritime laws, then being a CA would be irrelevant. However, if you were to focus in the area of tax, insolvency, or corporate matters (since these laws specifically allow CAs to appear for their clients before tribunals - ITAT, CESTAT, NCLT) then being a CA can be advantageous.