I am a married (mid-30s) guy currently working in a Tier I firm in Mumbai. The workload is beyond control. My wife is a non-lawyer, working with a retail company. She is able to manage work-life balance pretty much easily. However, I am most of the times constantly stressed or in a burnout mode. Looking at the never ending work life, I have given up on my personal life and decided not to have kids. Given the current situation, I am pretty sure of the outcome (a stroke in the midnight and I will be spared forever!). I am afraid of attaching further strings to my personal life and have taken this decision. While my wife is very keen on having kids, she is aware of my challenging and highly demanding work life. I know my decision seems insane, but the stress levels do not let you think otherwise/anything good happening in life. I have had a huge financial crisis in my family during my childhood and therefore, not willing to change the firm. Also, since the job market is pretty unclear at the moment, just not willing to take the risk at this point in time. Anyone who has been through this and survived, would appreciate your honest advice. Thanks a lot!

This will kill legally india.

Why doesn't reddit work for lawyers? Because you have to make multiple accounts.

Otherwise you can be easily tracked down by your law firm partner.

Extreme anonymity is the reason - people tell each and every gossip here. Otherwise careers could be ruined.

If it's been a long time, your team likely enjoys your work because KCO HR goes very hard with the "no extension" policy for interns except when your team really wants you. You could speak to your partner about hiring prospects and possibility of being retained - if you don't ask, you will never know.

https://www.lawfuel.com/london-law-and-neel-sachdevs-big-payday/

"Reports indicate that Sachdev is on a deal valued at around $60 million over three years."

"For Neel Sachdev, publicity and a star persona are all part of the deal. He was once named the sexiest lawyer and has a host of other credits to boast of."

Was the Supreme Court's order of 12th April 2019 putting all prospective electoral bond purchasers to notice (of their identities being potentially disclosed) lost on Ronak Ajmera? If he's on this list, he deserves it. 60 lakhs for a 10-11 PQE lawyer is a lot of money. He must've just made partner at around that time. Really sad...

It’s a large Marwari clan from Kolkata, with each branch very very very distantly related to each other. There is the Khaitan & Co law firm branch (officially from Kolkata but now essentially a Mumbai firm), a firm called Khaitan & Partners (Kolkata) and a firm called OP Khaitan (Delhi: owner arrested in August Westland scam). There is also a Khaitan family in Kolkata married into the branch of the Birla family in Kolkata (BK Birla/CK Birla branch) and a Senior Advocate and tax specialist in Kolkata JP Khaitan (who has married a Bengali lady and whose daughter is an academic in one of the world’s most prestigious universities).

All in all, a very useful surname to have!

The mainstream Delhi media keeps referring to Pakistan while discussing the CAA, but the spotlight should be on West Bengal and Bangladesh, because that is the root cause of the CAA. The religious demography of many areas in West Bengal has changed in favour of Muslims because of unchecked influx of people from Bangladesh and Myanmar. There is an undercurrent of anger among the people. I am just telling you the facts. Even someone as liberal and left-leaning as Atishi Marlena made controversial remarks against Bangladeshi and Rohingya Muslims.

Forget Salve and Abhinav Chandrachud. It’s in villages in Bengal where the CAA is playing a role .

i think you are right cause i recently gave clat and got mnlu nagpur and now they are asking to pay all the fees for first year by april 30 that is around 3lac 75 thousand including councelling fees which last year was around 2lac 78 thousand and even no scholership for first year based on caste so now i get it why fees has increased so much

If you’re good as per their standard, they’ll give you a PPO in 1 internship. If they have 2nd thoughts but still want to consider you, they’ll give you a call-back.

Both of these depend on the feedback lawyers in the firm give you, some other assessment tasks and an internship end presentation.

The first wave of Khaitan's that were dispatched to Delhi from Kolkata, i.e. Late OP Khaitan (erstwhile MP of OP Khaitan & Co; succeeded by Gautam Khaitan) and UK Khaitan (MP of Khaitan & Khaitan; jointly managed with his son Ashutosh Khaitan) now operate their own law firms and are no longer part of the fold. Khaitan & Co is now a father son enterprise of Pintu and Haigreve. Clean and simple. There are other Khaitans like Suman Jyoti Khatan (MP of Suman Khaitan & Co) and Sakate Khaitan (MP of Khaitan Legal Associates). Suman and Sakate were also part of the Khaitan fold in its earlier days. I think both trained under Pintu. Suman has clients like Robert Vadra.

I don't understand why countries like India (and some other third world countries like in Latin America) have law degrees that take at least five years to do. In countries in Europe and the UK, you finish your Bachelor's in Law in three years immediately after your Class 12 (i.e. without needing another degree first like a BA). Of course thereafter in Europe you must do a Master's in order to practise and in UK they have the whole Inn system for practical training. However, this still means they are saving around two years compared to Indians who want to enter academia, as now we have to spend one-two more years getting a master's before we can finally go for a PhD. I frankly don't see the need for BA/BCom subjects (please don't grandstand about social engineering in the comments without evidence that not teaching it makes lawyers socially unaware in UK or Europe); they could be offered as electives or reduced in number.

This is whataboutery of the highest level. Sad, but not surprising, to see that the Right is using utter ignorance of history, and the failings of other states, to build a legal and moral house of cards.

First HS, then FS. I don't know if they are cynical power grabbers, or what sociologists call "Useful Idiots" (it's a specific term, not an insult. look it up)

I watched this in full. If a first year student made these arguments in a moot court, they would be laughed out of court.

Salve is making specious arguments only to give his political masters some fig leaf of respectability. His main job is to muddy the waters, so people will think "Oh, the great Salve has spoken, our government is doing things correctly".

Everyone who has bothered to educate themselves about this topic already knows the issues. They tried to exclude people in Assam from the list of citizens, and found that they were also excluding their own vote bank. CAA is nothing but an excuse to say "we are using different standards for our vote bank when considering them as citizens".

It's good that Salve has made these arguments publicly. History will judge. History will remember. And history will not be kind to Salve.

Why will an IAS officer marry a non Grade A services person? Most officers look for a Service spouse.

Aisa kya mahanta ka kaam kiya hai aapne ki woh aapse shaadi karega/karegi? Literally do not understand the privilege people feel about themselves.

Go to ORN once. See the crowd. You will realize the quality of people aspiring for such jobs. And get out of this law bubble.

Toxic IIT coaching class culture: Coming soon to a CLAT prep centre near you???

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/new-low-in-ads-fiitjee-slammed-for-mocking-girl-who-left-it-for-another-institute-5256975/amp/1

True story. I took an Uber yesterday in Kolkata. The driver was a Hindu from Bangladesh. He said that he came to India after the Babri Masjid demolition, as many temples were destroyed in Bangladesh as revenge and he himself was threatened with his life. He said that the CAA makes no difference to people like him, as he already has citizenship documents like Aadhar. His previous generation fled during the 1971 war, when Indira Gandhi was in power and the Congress ruled Bengal, and they got citizenship as well, via ration cards. The generation before that fled during partition, in 1947. So, he said that the CAA will only benefit a small number of Hindus who fled this century and haven’t managed documents for some reason. But he said that the CAA is still being welcomed by people from his community (ie erstwhile Bangladeshi Hindus, now Indian Hindus) because of its sentimental value, to acknowledge the persecution they have faced. Plus, by certain other Hindus (not from Bangladesh) who are unhappy with Muslim immigration from Bangladesh into Bengal (or who dislike Muslims generally) and are happy that the CAA excludes Muslims. He said that the BJP is relying on this sentiment to increase its vote share in Bengal, rather than tangible benefits of citizenship (which is a bit of an eyewash). According to him the BJP will get more seats than the TMC this time (which Prashant Kishore has also predicted).

Rubbish. How could you forget the deep personal friendship between Grandpa C and Ramjet?

DYC's timely installation in the judicial conveyor belt was done by Ramjet with full BJP blessings. His every transfer/elevation etc was timed to perfection by Arunjet with full knowledge et al of the GOP and others.

Do not be surprised if DYC ends up in the ICJ or his chosen (including his children) become judges in future.

Khaitans migrated from Rajasthan to Bengal and at some point endeared the British to get RB. Their rise was co-terminus with that of the Birlas who had also migrated to Bengal for business purposes. Khaitans continue to be the chief legal counsel for the Birla clan although things have splintered within both the Birlas and Khaitans. Some continued with law, while others went into business and ofc inter-marriages with other business families within the wider Marwari community who made their initial fortunes in Bengal.

Originally aligned with the GOP (as was the Birlas) but once the Left came to power in Bengal, one of the Khaitans (BMK) struck a deep personal and business rapport with Jyoti Basu. That helped them "take over" several British and Scottish businesses (tea, construction, steel etc) when the Red plague swept through Bengal. Same story for the Goenkas.

After JB demise, the Khaitans already beset with internal squabbles and ill-effects of trying to whitewash Union Carbide (India) as Eveready, limped on. Elsewhere the side that went into legal field had also splintered. Despite switching allegiance to TMC, Khaitan businesses continued to bleed. Some connected Marwari business families pitched in but things haven't looked up. Allegations and investigations of funds diversion etc have also cropped up.

One of the Khaitan law firms is embroiled in a high-profile arms deal gone horribly wrong.

The firm will probably take back the fees if you don't clear the exam. Both exams at some point require you to PHYSICALLY go US/UK for examination, I do not think the firm will pay for this.

Mostly just a online compenent, crammed up with your hectic firm schedule or a sleek way of bonus reduction

The SCBA has already distanced itself. Maybe he is signalling something to the powers that be. Just like the lawyer from PH HC who made certain allegations concerning Jet Airways et al when Gogoi was caught (allegedly) with pants....

SBI is already trying to argue (and RBI may join in) that disclosing further details will violate its "fiduciary duty" towards customers and thus shatter customer confidence, which could potentially lead to business losses etc. This is already a standard defense by the banks for most of the RTIs.

By the way, why hasn't the SC been this pushy about disclosure when it involved banks be directed to disclose the list of its loans that have gone bad/putrid or "evergreened"?

Kindly also refer to the interview given by the FS, wherein he mentioned specific US enactments that fast-tracked citizenship processes for Ukrainian Jews/Ukrainians fleeing Communist Russia/USSR, Hungarians (when USSR and allies sent in tanks to crush the revolution), Cubans et al.

Contrast this with how the US abandoned its "native" allies in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Syria. Only the extremely fortunate and connected were able to get out and in minuscule numbers.

Not directly connected. But please read the book titled the "Blood Telegram". Whatever Nixon/Kissinger did was never undone by successive administrations.

Guys, I am shortlisted for internship in a Boutique A Boutique Law Firm which deals with Litigation, Corporate and Commercial Litigation and Dispute Resolution in Bangalore shortlisted me for the internship , I just want to know what these firms expects from a first time intern ? If any subjects/skills that I need to know so that I can be interned in an efficient manner, Any Suggestions would be helpful. Btw I am second year LL.B Student(3yrs). So help me out !!!

that jindal scholarship will come with terms and conditions and no certain returns. NLUO students get jobs. the difference in branding is not worth the money, the JGLS brand isnt that great and has associations with "spoilt rich kids" stereotypes. Id avoid and go to NLUO

First Gen lawyer. Independent practitioner from the south. 9 YOE. First five years were hard, little pay and low confidence. After that, it's been a steady increase. I make around 500,000 per month and I work around 40 hours a week. There is fantastic flexibility, growth trajectory, independence, and confidence about life in litigation.

As an independent practitioner, there is zero drama in life and the future looks like a fertile pasture.

If you think you can endure on a mere subsistential allowance for the first five years, do choose litigation. It is worth it.