ADHD is not a mental health issue like depression or anxiety that can be treated. It's a neurodevelopmental disorder that is incurable but only manageable with either medicines or behavioral therapy or a combination of both. I still haven't found a solution to tackle this. Somehow made it to SA2 in a T1 with all this and don't think I'll last long enough to see it through to partner. It's tough, medicines help but the overall stress and anxiety associated with the T1 work culture is kind of a double whammy. Maybe one day I'll stike a balance. Till then, I just go with the flow and hope things will get better.

Legal profession anywhere is underpaid compared to finance, banking, fund management or running a successful unicorn.

But nobody becomes a lawyer with the aim of becoming a billionaire. Lawyers may not make billions but they can certainly make multi millions which is way above what an average Tom, Dick or Harry can earn in their lifetime.

People become lawyers mainly for intellectual passion and money also follows the deserving ones.

This is the story lot of seniors keep telling juniors.

Truth is - That feeling of giving up the holiday and working should come from within - ownership. But there’s no ownership when partner owns equity and the junior is like a salaried employee who has to sacrifice his time and not be able to enjoy his money he earned by working hard.

Most cases the junior will be replaced by partner soon as they get someone better. In your own business, that will never happen.

CCG from NLU Delhi does good work in that area. However, it has suffered cuts in its funding. CIIPC used to be really good in IP and Competition law, but now there's hardly any research fellow there. NLS has a project with Meta on LLM but that project is on Consumer Protection, not tech law or policy.

I feel private universities may take the lead in this because of finding that they may recieve.

What was the merit list rank of those who didn’t get jobs? In other words, were they brilliant at the outset and suddenly dipped academically at IIT, or were they not so great to begin with? I think that’s very relevant. If the first is true, it means there may be a need for greater counselling. If the second is true, it means that IIT needs to have stricter entry requirements. I understand that there is a need to admit certain students to diversify intake, but they can be placed in less demanding streams. If there are no less demanding streams, then IITs can start BA courses and shift them there. Being in the top 10 of a BA stream should get you better jobs than being in the bottom 10 of a BTech stream.

It’s called pragmatism.

Rest of the things aside, changing the name of the place really won't hide your identity, if you have given all other details. Even assuming all of that is false, still, your boss and others in the firm who read LI can still figure it out. Next time, give some space between the incident and venting of it. I hope you did this time as well. Applies for all venting out in LI. All the Best. Sorry for what happened to you.

You have tried well.

I think NLS Bangalore is way ahead other NLUs for its faculty, alumni, reputation and everything.

Tier 1A: NLSIU

Tier 1: Nalsar, NLUD, NUJS, JGLS, NLUJ, GNLU, NLIU

Tier 2: HNLU, RML, RGNUL, NUALS, SLS Pune, MNLU Mumbai, GLC, CLC, ILS Pune

Tier 3: CNLU, NLUO, Christ, Nirma, NUSRL, MNLU Nagpur, NLU Trichy, NLU Assam,

Tier 4: All other NLUs, Symbiosis Noida, GGSIP University etc.

This is for sure that your Partner does not respect you. You have to weigh your personal life v/s professional life here. Understand the psychological of Partner as well. Is he just being sadist or there is a genuine need? For kick off, certainly you are not needed at all. He/She can fill you in at a later point.

It’s possible he/she may want to fire you and is looking for an excuse to do that.

Take a call.

Unique Aspects of NLSIU:

25 Rhodes Scholars: NLSIU boasts 25 Rhodes Scholars, showcasing the academic excellence of its students.

Philip C. Jessup International Law Moot Court Competition: NLSIU is the only law school in South Asia to have won this prestigious competition twice, highlighting its prowess in international law advocacy.

National Law School of India Review: The NLSIU's student-run law journal has been cited by the Supreme Court of India in two notable judgments, including the landmark Right to Privacy verdict. This achievement sets it apart as one of the few Indian law journals recognized by the Supreme Court.

And much more: NLSIU's unique attributes extend beyond these mentioned points, solidifying its reputation as a leading institution in legal education.

I'm struggling to grasp the issue here. It's common in our industry for bosses to require urgent attention on client deliverables. As you advance in your career, possibly reaching a partner level, similar situations may arise. Would you prioritize a holiday over a critical client's needs? In our industry, the client's demands take precedence over personal commitments.

Let me recount a personal incident. A few years back, my daughter underwent routine appendix surgery scheduled for 3 pm, and she wished for my presence. Despite leaving work at 1:45 pm to be there, I received a call from a team member about crucial data from our client. I immediately returned to the office and resumed work. That dedication led to my promotion to partner at my Tier 1 firm that year.

Success in this industry demands dedication and prioritizing client needs above personal matters.

Don't waste your time looking or joining a Tier 1 if you are expecting any perks! Read the other thread wherein someone has been asked to cancel their leave due to work, so if you are expecting that you will get all weekends free, vacations per month or a foreign trip, this profession is not for you. Initial ours is just slogging and slogging..

Real question should be how many hours do you people get off in a day so that they can sleep peacefully!

BTW salary is not a perk.

I don’t see what the problem is. Your boss has a client deliverable and needs you. Get used to being in a service industry which is competitive. One day you will hopefully have made partner and will have a holiday planned, would you go ahead with the holiday if a big client came knocking. Support your partner and live in the reality of a competitive business environment. You are a professional not a unionised workman

As an input (among many other factors) ranking is acceptable. The key operative word is "neurotic obsession". Remember, there was a time when universities had no ranking and they still "managed" to be successful and produced successful alumni. Many universities are now opting out of ranking exercises deliberately - it reduces the university to a mere number. Take NLUs for instance. One cannot associate a particular NLU with a specific outstanding area of work/discipline within law that it is known for. Other than the date of establishment, an NLS is actually no different from NLU Meghalaya. NLS, even after so many years does not stand for anything that makes it unique. In other words, if NLU Meghalaya was the first NLU to be set up it'd be ranked No. 1 today, by virtue of its age. But then as my supervisor used to say - even a donkey ages.

Can't focus for an hour myself tho. Ex-lawyer, moved to B School to have a more "leisurely" way of life but was anything but.

I somehow operate in cycles (highs and lows), and medications, including stimulants such as Modafinil, etc have not been able to help generally during the low period.

What somehow gets me through this is exercise, I cannot meditate, but love to cycle, and cycling alone is like meditation for me.

Honestly, Idk if there is any one size fits all straitjacket solution that you can glean here. You can perhaps experiment with the coping mechanisms people have mentioned but yours may be something entirely different, and might even evolve. For me, pre-law school, this was novels.

Also, my brother who is an IIT-IIMA guy, has ADHD himself, and similarly functions in highs and lows, and FPS games somehow work for him. Best of luck, hope you find your "something" that keeps you going!

No one and I mean, no one, would put NUJS above NLUD today. Not a single CLAT aspirant would choose NUJS over NLUD unless they’re so home sick that they can’t leave Kolkata. And you can keep shouting placements, but everyone knows NUJS students intern throughout the year without attending classes, have zero academic rigour, and artificially inflate grades and use all their alumni pull to keep considering themselves as tier-1.

2025...both LLB & LLM...they have already started increase in intake of professors in both centres of law & governance and international legal studies...the professors will help establish the curriculum this year...and by next year when the session starts...they will have atleast 20-25 law faculty. One of my known professors also got in this year. He said they will start intake by next year via JNUEE and not NTA

By retorting with meaner comments. Find their vices. Tell them to consult psychiatrists. Ask them if they are depressed multiple times. Ask them if they need IVF or have they tested their loved ones for cancer. Or do they need divorce lawyer. Or are their SOs cheating on them. Or how will they react if their kids turn homosexual.

Ask these questions with equal casual tone. These buggers need a snide retort. & Shame on those who are still asking you to lose weight. There are too many reasons for weight gain that are beyond one's control.

look. other people have a right to say whatever they want. thats kind of how the world works. If you complain to some manager now, youll be complaining all your life. In adult world we have to sort our own problems. So here are possible solutions

1) get angry next time it happens and try and confront/shame people- you will alienate colleagues but thats a cost.

2) ignore it or laugh it off- try and remember that other peoples opinions are just that and no one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

3) go to the gym and lose weight- no weight no mockery. you might find that they mock you for something else. and that weight loss should be about you getting healthy.

4) leave the firm- no firm no bullying. you might not have much luck elsewhere.

5) just pick flaws in whoever is saying mean shit and drag them for a bit. no one in any firm looks like a model anyway. fighting fire with fire is a recipe for some burnt people.

I am a fresher who will be joining AP Law Chambers from June. I have interned in the past with them, though remotely, but the experience was good.Any feedback will be helpful. I will be on probation for first three months, and thereafter upon confirmation and as communicated will have a share on billable work (like JSA, I reckon). Discretionary bonus will be payable end of the financial year, subject to Firm’s performance.

Hnlu has rigour and a pretty stagnant “college life”. However the student culture is pretty nice if compared against other T2s.

Seniors are helpful, there is no sir/ma’am culture and you’re actually treated as a peer rather than some puny kid one can pick on if you’re bored.

Placement shouldn’t be a determining factor. If you work hard, you’ll land up in a T-1 firm in either college and this can evinced by the fact that both colleges place a decent number of students in T-1 firms. However the alumni base in Hnlu may prove to be helpful (provided the admin recognises their very existence)

I had the choice of going to rml, hnlu, and nluo and I chose hnlu due to the fact that hnlu as such has seen consistency in placements, has a decent industry repute among corporate firms, and a large campus( which is under-utilised)

However, in hindsight, a thing I feel lacking is the emphasis of extra curriculars. Nluo has an excellent mooting culture which you don’t find here. You’d find nluo students participating in competitions left right and centre while hnlu students are preoccupied with acads( and the fact that admin is pretty icky about covering expenses for competitions ) Societies at hnlu are barely functioning.

However the corp culture at hnlu seems to be a notch ahead. There is good guidance and if you secure a decent rank and tailor a nice CV, your placement is guaranteed.

Hnlu does have a better library when it comes to corp and IP, while it isn’t aesthetic looking and looks like pretty basic from outside , you’d practically find any book you require for your moot, conference, or publication.

Note: I have nothing against nluo peeps, they’re probably the only college along with hnlu among the T2s that seem to be worth the money if one wants a shot at a corp placement coupled with the semblance of college life.

SEVERAL of my seniors and I blazed the good stuff and did rbaazi in HNLU all semester long and had multiple backlogs that we cleared at the very end thru scam and still ended up at T1. Many of these guys have made SA in the past year or so.

Grinding in college is for foreign jobs, quality LLMs or career shift. T1 is a formality. Or if you’re a donkey who’s too dumb to make it to T1 without effort. Im not trolling, if you have the privilege of a good standard of education (which 90% if not closer to 100 of NLU kids do get) these kinda jobs are a mere formality.

Though it is an infrastructural issue, VC is trying to hide this under the guise of mental health of first years. They don't want to leave freshers alone, that's why they cramp two of them in a room meant for one ( see Q. 3 https://news.careers360.com/nlu-odisha-national-law-university-cuttack-nluo-ba-llb-law-courses-jobs-incubation-cell-vice-chancellor)

The problem of these double occupancy 10x10 rooms further aggravates in April when temperature reach 40°C and two people need to survive in those rooms without air conditioning. The administration is totally inconsiderate about these basic things. They can spend on that flower show but not in basic amenities.

Pradhan Murkh,

The best teams as per quality of work are:

S&R

CAM

Azb

Kco (A team, not B team)

Indus

Trilegal (Mumbai Office - the Delhi partner doesn't deserve to be ranked)

JSA

SAM

(PS: Before the Scammies start defending themselves, please go back and check your lapses during the One97 IPO. The same IPO where your practice head (not the firm) made crores)

None of the teams should be ranked as per their professionalism because none are consistently professional. Each team (apart from S&R) has multiple senior members who openly propagate cutting corners.

If your family is rich, the best option is to leave the capital markets practice. The current cartel of team leaders will only use your connections (and your zeal to work hard) to build their practices on the back of your efforts and sweat.

Unless you are from a politician family, a bureaucrats family, or a leading lawyers/CA family, you will never be allowed a seat at the table, let alone a chance to become anything more than a glorified assistant.

Also, unless you are the team leaders pet, you should expect to have every leave of yours infringed upon. Uninterrupted random foreign sojourns are reserved for the team leaders and their pets.

Should you require any further clarification, in place of using a pseudonym on LI, please reach out directly.

Regards,

You wanting to slog 25 hours in a day only shows your commitment to the deal you are working on or the client you are working on. Kudos to your spirit!

As far as you not being able to tolerate infringement of your vacation time, you should realise that only life-altering events (like funerals, marriages, the birth of a child) and religious holidays are considered sacrosanct only if you have a decent person as your boss. Sadly, the capital markets practice due to its cartelisation does not have a lot of decent people heading any of the major teams.

If you are hoping for random sojourns to foreign lands as per your whims and

I work with ADHD.

Meds are recommended. But not a permanent solution.

Focus here:

- Nutrition (keep vitamin and protein levels right)

- Exercise (couple of times a week is fine)

- Planners (you have to keep yourself organised, plan your work and todos very very well)

There will be roadblocks - but if you love your job, ADHD will become your super power and you will do better than most.