Okay, first of all, pack up that defeatist mentality and through it right off a cliff.

Once you're done with that, really sit down and figure out what is it that you want to do. Do you want to go into government services or a firm or maybe litigation? Or are you doing that because your relatives are in field/ someone forced it down your throat, while constantly telling you "you'll make a crore a year at some point?"

If the field is truly what you want, and you want to ACTUALLY be a lawyer, start applying to chambers maybe. Start there. A lot of people start at litigation and make their way upwards (either there, or branch out).

If this is not the field, and you wanted to do something else, and maybe have a portfolio, start applying in that field. A lot of people who I know (including me) did that. Not only after the initial slogging my ass off am I making money but I actually like my life.

This is, in no way, a propaganda for you to leave the career. But honestly, if you're feeling that low, it's time for some introspection. Also, it feels bad now (trust me I know), that everyone around you is super successful and all that, but c'mon, the more you compare, the worse you're gonna feel. And it's a tough world out here, which has no time for you to wallow in your self-pity.

Will be very difficult. I was once in a Tier-1 too (GC)- wanted to shift to Disputes but no Tier 1 was interested (and even if they were- they would have discounted my GC experience completely). I understood the difficulty early on and took a chamber job in New Delhi where I could learn the ropes. The salary was shit- but atleast I learned very quickly and got good court exposure. One year later, I switched to a disputes firm (not Tier 1) and very happy. Can say that leaving GC and Tier 1 was the best decision I have ever made.

IMHO, team switch to disputes can only happen if you know someone very closely at a senior level. Otherwise firms will be very reluctant to take you. Disputes scene in Delhi is very jugaad based- and I didn’t have one. My suggestion is, join a good chamber and improve your CV. The salary cut will feel horrible (I was earning 5x amount of money in Tier 1 monthly)- but you will get over it.

Nobody is "thinking on his behalf". We are wasting time with people like you - giving up parts of our evenings no less - because the privilege of being Sudhir is that he doesn't need to. We, however, as we still have much to learn and believe he is the one who can provide us with a significant number of opportunities for learning and be a key source for some of that learning himself, need to get little pieces of filth like you out of the way first, so we can (unlike you) actually achieve something in life.

Hi. I am an extremely stressed individual from the BO 2025, sls pune. The recruitment season is giving me extreme blues and I was wondering if the LI community could come together to create a realistic list of firms hiring (except T1s). Would be great if seniors could also mention vacancies in their teams or teams they know of in their firms. If you know of any firms actively taking in assessment interns, mention those too. Literally any help would be appreciated.

If u are from tier 1 nlu and you are confident that you will get callbacks from 1-1 month internships and they will subsequently convert into PPO, then go ahead. Otherwise, the safest approach is to always do long term internships so that upon gradution, your chanes of being hired, either by the current firm or any other firm increases substantially.

Forget about what happened with HSF for now. Could we please agree not to classify TC offers as PPO and instead just use the category of 'TC'? This is not to put them on some higher status or something. They are something separate entirely, in terms of how they work and the recruitment process, and describing them as PPO could be dangerous and misleading.

Nope, joined NLUD and got a job offer while enjoying a great student life in Delhi with meeting tons of people, interning with actual litigators, a great food, party and culture scene etc unlike what would have been the case in Shamirpet, Gandhinagar or Jodhpur (lmao). What's to regret?

IDK why everything you CLC, GLC, ILS, NLU folks crap becomes the talk of the town, while the genuine concerns of other people fall on deaf ears. Linkdin is full of insloent, inept and good for nothing people who graduate from these elite institutions and they get mad sympathy for their situation coz they are apparently the "voice of this profession".

These are actually cute questions from ostensibly very privileged children. Of course they are chronically online and that shows. But they are literally 14-15. They have 10th, 12th and law entrances to disillusion them about the world to a little extent before they even begin law school. People are downvoting and being mean for nothing.

As a person who with education loan himself, i can tell you that NLUD provides ample opportunities to secure jobs. If you're looking for ONLY tier 1 firm jobs, day zero places around 30 people. If you broaden your horizons and look for T2 firms, In house jobs, and other recruiters, you would easily get placed on day one. Literally people with ranks in the 80s and 90s get placed on day one out of a batch of 120 students only. Best place is NLUD if you're interested in litigation + judiciary + upsc + academia + foreign llms (rhodes included) because no other NLU provides better avenue for this. (nls provides better academic and llm support for sure)

Be clear: if your goal is t1 corporate job only and only that, and you are absolutely certain before even starting law school that you dont want to do anything else in terms of your career, i would say best place is NUJS then NLS then NLUJ then NALSAR. However, if you are even slightly interested in litigation + upsc + judiciary + academia etc, prefer NLUD over anything else.

Even in its worst day zero (last year's - in 2023) out of a pool of 50 students, 40 had jobs by the time they graduated (the batch size at that time was 80). This year's day zero was much better. 33 offers from around 40-50 odd students who applied for day zero jobs. (Pool is of 85 odd students but most others are upsc, judiciary aspirants who want a backup that's why they are just signing in for the pool to get day one jobs which are relatively more chill). Whoever wants jobs, gets job by the time they graduate even if they put the bare minimum efforts of doing 1 or 2 internships.

PQE 1 year, i currently have 3 offers at hand and want some guidance regarding which one to select -

1. Law firm in Hyderabad (sal - 35k pm) - Profile is that of associate but mostly gen corp and litigation work as per my understanding.

2. Analyst - Due dilligence at a compliance comapany in Pune (sal - 7 lpa) - totally unrelated profile from law but the salary and less cost of living in Pune is luring me.

3. Legal Associate in an Asset Management Company (40-45k in Gurgraon) - It has mix of commercial contracts, due dilligence and and fund formation/structuring work. I can also dabble into finance and secretarial work here.

I have 1 y PQE in gen corp and advisory and my only concern is that I wish to move ahead from gen corp to commercial transcations and M&A , and for that matter i don' t accepting a lower salary too. From a career perspective, which one from 1 and 3 should be best? I am even contemplating option 2 coz the same pays decently and I can completely switch my profile as well.

Thanks

Hi, I will be interning at SAM (not specifying location) in the dispute resolution team. I only have one other T1 internship but that too was in the M&A team. I don't have a lot of Dispute Resolution experience, so I just had a couple of questions:

(i) what kind of work can I expect in the DR team at SAM?

(ii) How likely are they to dole out PPOs, and any specific expectations?

Thanks.

Let's talk about a different narrative. If I've got good grades in school and cracked a competitive exam like CLAT to get into the arguably best law university in the country and then I can't manage my first sem studies, are you claiming that the institution shouldn't take any responsibility for that? If you're, then thank heavens you're not associated with education.

I know the following are silly questions but I checked youtube videos, searched internet and LI but was unable to find much info. If someone answers even some of these I would be very thankful.

1) Other than fees, roughly how much money is expected to be spent for whole five years? I understand transport costs would vary, then if someone's phone/laptop gets broken or if someone has expensive tastes then everything would vary a lot. But in general, very roughly, how much would be expected to spend over five years?

2) For attending moots, publishing articles in journals and such how supportive are the administration? Is there any bias whereas only few people are favoured over the others? If someone is interested in moots and writing from the first are there too many hurdles (or too many rivals) to overcome?

3) Classroom-wise, how are the technical facilities?

4) In case of any issues in hostel...suppose water cooler not working or maybe room lights/fan not working, do they fix it in a timely manner or students are asked to on their own?

5) Last question, for someone who likes to eat a lot non-veg, how is the mess food and other paid canteens on campus?

I understand these questions sound too naive and perhaps idiotic too, but please bear with me and try to answer if possible. Thanks a lot!

RCC did a major blunder. NLUO is clearly not ready for a day zero. Beyond that, this is the most unfocussed batch the university has ever seen. There are students who have zero corporate internships and experience but have been shortlisted owing to their ranks. The firms have shortlisted the students simply on their rank which is very unfair to the students who have spent the last four years working their a** off at firms.

The majority of the shortlisted students wanted to go for judiciary, llm, academics, chambers, and so didn't intern anywhere. One of the top three rankers actually stated in public that she wanted a taste of corporate life for 6 months so she applied for the tier 1 firms and got shortlisted.

Best of luck to these firms who didn't have 5 mins to look into the CVs even and all they looked into was the rank. Let the cycle continue. To the juniors, interning is no use. Focus on your ranks. In the end that is the only criteria for the majority of the firms.

Hello! what online courses/ certifications can we pursue in corporate law subjects which would be relevant enough to also add in the CV and make some sense to the recruiter? and regardless of the CV aspect, for own knowledge too.

what platform is good for such courses? THANK YOU

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Excuse me but no one (most students) is leaving work to last minute. Sometimes the deadlines are such that you only have 6 days to complete a work while there are 10 other work pending. Putting pressure doesn't always guarantee success. Pressure must be there but not so much that you can't even give your 100% to a work or enjoy it. And there is no simple dichotomy such as a simple headache and straight up hospitalisation. One can have serious diseases and still not be hospitalized. We don't get a condonation till we are hospitalised (mostly) and the acceptance/rejection of the same is arbitrary. And if you believe that the ones who had to sit for day zero (getting a job is both in the interest of the university and the student) don't deserve shifting of class/attendance condonation or any form of leeway, then you must think NLS students are machines. First live here, experience the same. NLS students may be replaceable but no "human" can happily survive this. There is a limit to bringing anything and everything under the garb of 'rigour' and 'working hard'. No one wants to slack off. But neither does one want to be suffering, mentally and physically.

Yes, it's just because of the location based advantage and conferences they conduct (also due to their location) their rankings are hyped up every year. I've interacted with a few students from NLUD, they are not even comparable to students from NUSRL Ranchi when it comes to knowledge and other aspects. It's high time for NLUD to join consortium

This is so desperate. This is why nobody likes you guys. So snooty and pretending to save lives when all you do is use the Oxford comma correctly. Come on loosen up, friend and don’t take everything so seriously. There is more to life than you, your firm and your work. This kind of jingoism never helped anybody. Open your eyes and see the world.

Just came across a LinkedIn post in which a UG student is advertising one on one mentorship sessions and career advice. Ideally, clearing an exam or getting accepted for a job doesn't make anyone an expert qualified to every single student's unique needs. But to do that before even having a degree only because you happened to do an internship???? Insane. How's a student who hasn't even graduated yet gonna be able to give gyan on how to ace an internship? The only impact that's gonna come out of these pointless suggestions is on the wallets of poor gullible kids who don't know any better and are spending money and engaging in this bhaiya-didi culture.

To the people who are engaging in this absolute scam, be better, be a little considerate and stop fooling your juniors. Imagine if someone charged and billed you for every single advice you have received up untill this point.

To kids who might be thinking about getting in this trap, don't. Go out, engage with alumni and seniors in the profession and seek genuine guidance if you need from someone with actual experience in the field. I'm pretty sure nobody is going to ask you for money for these things. There are people within the industry who are far more qualified than a random 4th year UG student hustling for some extra change on LinkedIn who'd be in a much better position to guide and advice you regarding any queries you might have.

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This is just jealousy (not on account of any body type, but because you are practicing healthy lifestyle without compromising of work). The only thing that seniors should care about is whether work is happening properly or not (if they are just looking at associates as work horse and don't have any positive interest in junior's life, by positive I mean, looking after well being of team and not just as a source of gossip!). My advice will be don't get pressurised because people who work well should not worry about such stuff as they will always be in demand and will be able to find a job within the firm (with another partner) or outside the term.

You are doing what most people aspire to do (work along with taking care of your health). Please continue and inspire others to also do this

This is in response to the press statement made by Madhabi Puri Buch and her husband:

1-4 How does being alumnus of IIM Ahmedabad help? Or of IIT Delhi. Do they hand our lifetime certificates of honesty?

5-6 What they do in 2015 is of no one’s concern. Point is what you did after joining SEBI in April 2017. When you mention that Anil Ahuja was a childhood friend of Dhaval, you forget to mention that he was also on Adani’s flagship company as a director since 2009. Was it not appropriate to recuse from an investigation of Adanis when such a close friend of the Buchs was associated with Adani since 2007. Why did you make investments into GDOF an opaque investment vehicle when public and transparent mutual funds or AIFs are available? Getting certificates of honesty from Anil Ahuja or from 360 One (regulated by SEBI) would hardly suffice.



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1. When did Mr. Ahuja make this confirmation? To who? Was he not a director on Adani Enterprises in 2017 when MPB became Whole Time Member of SEBI?
2. Since when does Blackstone do ‘supply chain management’ related work? Are there any other examples of Blackstone hiring ‘supply chain managers’ and that too at such senior positions? Why did this need arise in 2019 when MPB was member of SEBI’s board. Was there a need for this expertise before 2019 - or did the need suddenly arise after SEBI appointment? Who are the other experts Blackstone has required in this area before 2019? What advice was obtained and what payments were made to Dhaval over the course of 2017 to 2024? The question is not whether Dhaval was associated with real estate side of Blackstone. It was whether he was paid large sums of money to get access to MPB. How many meetings has Blackstone had with senior officers of SEBI, or with MPB?
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4. What is this recusal list. Is it only maintained with SEBI? Why not publish it in public domain, like all public companies do? Is this list shared with the Govt of India? Did they approve it? Like SEBI has extensive norms for related party permissions, including shareholder approval, did MPB get any permissions for RPTs from say the Govt of India or from her SEBI Board? Or did she ask SEBI for permission, which she heads and then gave herself permission?
5. There are no insinuations that MPB only favoured Blackstone for Reits matters alone. The insinuation is that she favoured all matters related to Blackstone - directly or through her subordinates. All meetings of Blackstone with SEBI officers since 2017 should be disclosed.
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7. The consulting companies set up did not become dormant. In fact one of them provided income from 2017 to 2024. In 2023 the ‘consulting firm’ provided income 4 times her salary at SEBI. This was not a passive income from mutual funds. It was in fact ‘consulting’ income paid to her husband. The husband claims to have no other expertise in life except ‘supply chain management’ but the consulting firm’s articles don’t show that even as a legitimate permissible activity. Agora’s permissible activities are ‘Legal, accounting, book-keeping and auditing activities; tax consultancy; market research and public opinion polling; business and management consultancy’. What legal and accounting expertise does Dhaval have to earn such massive sums of money? Also the company’s address is a dabba address where many other companies and LLPs are registered. What does Shah and Savla LLP also registered there do? What does Aarnaira Development Foundation also at same address with Dhaval as director do? Same articles to get consulting fees in another account?
8. -14 Paying tax on ‘consulting’ or disclosure does not help convert them into legitimate income. Even in 2019 when MPB was a member of SEBI, the near sole shareholder and thus sole beneficiary of the ‘consulting’ firm was MPB. There is no disclosure in public domain - disclosing to her own organisation smacks of complete compromise of integrity and self dealing in complete contrast to related party norms applicable to listed companies.
9. Sending a show cause to Hindenberg does not exempt MPB or Dhaval to ignore basic laws of FCPA and conflict. At the least, these are extraordinary lapses of judgment. These charges must be defended on merits, whether or not Hindenberg is motivated by other factors or not.

"In the grand arena of knowledge, where minds art forged and futures shaped, let not the allure of placement offers bind thee in chains of corporate servitude. For in the pursuit of gilded promises, one may forsake the true essence of learning, becoming but a pawn in the game of profit. Seek wisdom and passion above all, for they shall be the keys to thy liberation."

Sigh. St Josephs takes students from a wide range of socio economic class. they offer scholarships to poor students which Sudhir was on. He was not born into a rich or well off family the way youre trying to portray. He got an english education because the principal basically took pity on a boy from a poor family when he was a child. The idea that people must be punished for doing well despite their circumstances is crazy.

his doctorate is from nalsar. He will get it this year. The work is done. Sudhir has given him an assistant professor job which he was more than qualified for. Sudhir is not involved in Chauhans doctorate whatsoever. So again- what breaks has chauhan got in exchange for this support?

Why write the damned email that they did. 34% increment average it seems. Are these people out of their mind. I can confirm that for most people it's 10% (as always). How they've rolled that out in some cases seems to be that theybhave jacked up the variable part and given a 5% on fixed. Day light lying. If not for that email, this thread probably wouldn't exist.

Placement numbers should not be seen in absolute terms and instead as a percentage. NLUD has done fine. GNLU has done exceptionally well so it may seem like NLUD is falling behind but that's not the case.

NLIU over NLUD is a nonsense decision when the former was churning out fake degrees not too long ago. NLUD is a legacy institution which continues to be an academic powerhouse with a solid track record of placements. GNLU is a viable alternative due to its steady improvements in the last few years.

If you are failing in the first year itself, it means you are not serious about studies and passed CLAT by fluke or rote learning. Many students think that admission into NLS is automatically a pathway to a good job, without understanding that you need to put in lots of hard work in those 5 years. If the other 100 students could work hard, then why not these 20 also. It simply shows lack of hard work or commitment.

Crumbling infra is a problem inherited from the previous administrations where no construction or renovation was done for decades. Now finally Sudhir has got funding for upgrading the acad blocks and hostels. Library is already done. Construction won't happen overnight, things will take a couple of years at least.

Blatant misuse of authority. Total 120 got selected in nls batch 25 ,best out of 60000 as per merit . 20 students failed in the first year itself and will pass out with nexr batch .Which is 1/6 of the total strength of students. Give any such example happened before in NLU or in top institutions anywhere . One student even tried to commit suicide . In fact , that time students were just getting used to this new mode of online learning and adjusting themselves in this environment. He can not fathom or not sensitive enough to understand that how much stress he had caused by such action to students and parents alike. If there was any issue of learning, he could have design new way of learning b . What advantage these students get after enrolling in the so called top institution, when they can not secure even a job with their batch mates. This is not level playing field .In Nalsar and nujs ,how many got failed in first year ? Very rarely or no one. Now he has put the risk of career of these students . Even with higher rank ,their only mistake was to join nls .