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Although I am interested in knowing NLUD's number.
-KCO
-Tri
-AZB
-SAM
-CAM
-Saraf
-TTA
-Indus
All of us know that being well versed with your cv is extremely crucial, in addition to studying the basics of Contracts, TPA and Companies Act. Firm specific advise would be really helpful at the stage. Thanks.
[mods please pin or feature, Day Zero is around the corner for all law schools]
I am new to this platform, could you pls explain the terms which were there like contested, featured etc. i mean in the sense of this discussion
1. I am not saying that that (disability accommodation requests going unscrutinised/improperly scrutinised) does not happen or that such phenomena aren't real. Nor am I necessarily saying that there aren't gaps in Jindal's implementation of accommodations. If the kinds of phenomena you are writing about hadn't been real, Puja Khedkar wouldn't have happened. However, I am worried about a tendency to inflate the level at which these things are happening, because of seeing the opposite happen more often - unreasonable, disproportionate, possibly discriminatory scrutiny of a person and their disability being carried out by examination authorities when disability supports are requested. Therefore, as disability is very poorly understood not just in Indian society but in most, I would think we need extra evidence before we reach any conclusion.
2. Your point about "over and above your regular work" regarding the administrators' attitudes is a particularly good one. It does not seem like Jindal (or frankly any even reasonably well-known Indian university) has a specific, separate disability support department or office of disability support services with staff who have expertise in disability support in higher education, unlike universities in Britain and the U.S. Jindal law's DSC (for all the hype of "global university"/"global law school") seems to be employing the (very Indian) higher education industry standard of having ad-hoc arrangements to support disabled students. What you have said is the best argument for creating such offices. If that were to be done, we aren't having examination authorities doing stuff "over and above [their] regular work" for a number of reasons:
(a) The disability advisory and support service is responsible for investigating the level, presence or absence of a disability, medical condition or specific learning difference of students - making that a crucial part of their "regular work";
(b) Based on the expertise of their staff, the disability support office recommends examination access arrangements (from my experience of such things in Britain) to the examination authorities based on the actual need of the student balanced with fairness for everyone (they don't get it right 100% of the time, but usually do); and
(c) the bar for rejecting the disability support office's recommendation would have to be a high one - such as if that office had no backing based on evidence for its recommendation, or the recommendation for an access arrangement compromised its fairness or assessment of competency standards etc.
Just to add about my second point, this is not just me (a person who has experienced a different educational system) saying that universities in India need to have dedicated disability advisory and support offices. Anchel Bhateja, the first blind person to go to NLSIU, said this about her university in a newspaper article.
If you're looking at it purely from a job perspective, then the teams with the highest attrition usually have the most vacancies: Capital Markets, Funds, and Banking & Finance. (but there is a reason for high attrition that's the caveat)
If your goal is simply to join the largest practice groups, because more roles in the industry then look at General Corporate, M&A, and PE/VC, as they tend to have the biggest teams.
Also, moots aren't the be-all and end-all. You can always compensate with strong publications, ADR competitions, research work, and other achievements. That said, moots are one of the most valuable experiences in law school. A single moot can teach you more about a subject than an entire semester because it's the closest you'll get to actual legal practice as a student. So definitely give them a shot.
My internships are decent only, with 1 at LKS and Dhir&Dhir each, and a few under Supreme Court Judges and Advocates. I also participated in an international moot but wasn't able to qualify for the advanced rounds.
I have zero connections in this field, but still I'm trying to look for internships at tier-1 law firms. I really want to make a career abroad but I won't be able to devote huge money for LLM abroad, so I was still figuring out if there's any other route to join a global corporate firm.
Would be helpful if you could put forward your suggestions as to what I can possibly work upon in the next few months which I've left before applying for global forms? Or any other route you would suggest for building a legal career abroad.
My preferences were Disputes and Competition, but I was only sent an Assessment for Competition Law, which I cleared and received the internship confirmation. I am really looking to convert this into a Callback and then a PPO. However, a few seniors advised me that Competition is really niche and Disputes Hiring is also pretty low.
Can someone help me decide which team should I prefer among Disputes and Competition (if I get that opportunity with the HR, as I gave an assessment for Competition but my first preference was Disputes)? Also, I was referred for the Internship by a Disputes Team Person who came on campus for an event.
And how true is my senior's idea wrt hiring and that I should be interning with some other team?
Thank you for your help!
This is called pulling the ladder.
You have a bad boss.
I had one too.
Best to look elsewhere.
If going six hours without food or water is described as difficult - I really don’t know what to say. Housewives across the country fast longer for superstitious beliefs everyday. Most people don’t live lives where they’re eating every two three hours - they actually have work to do. You’ve been living a remarkably coddled life if this feels like a sacrifice to you. And you should be able embarrassed.
I’m so sick of this private school kid mentality that has infected NLU students since at least the pandemic. You don’t - do - anything. You live in these isolated bubbles. Nearly all of you hate the native population around you and your clinics are non functional cause you don’t try to help anyone.
At least earlier batches were self interested but motivated to do something exceptional - win the Rhodes, win jessup, write a book, become a partner at a leading firm, become a judge somewhere, whatever. You all don’t do any of that even.
And you want more praise and attention than anyone else- for what ? Skipping evening chai and doing the bare minimum by turning up to classes - it is exhausting. Check your effing privilege. Stop soaking up all the energy in the room. There are actually people starving in delhi. There are actually kids no older than you who are getting arrested and standing up to the man.
This Nalsar stuff is a sad pathetic showing and it’s rightly getting panned. You all are behaving life fools.
At least those students who are focused on academic excellence are being honest - they want material success and they’re working hard for it. The wannabe Nalsar activist is fundamentally a dishonest person- she doesnt want to do anything that actually inconveniences her in the slightest- but she believes like tinker bell she will die without applause and she’s earned other people’s respect and attention because she bothers to spout off the latest trendy political talking point.
At least actors cultivate a skill - they’re obvious is their need for public attention and approval but they earn it by doing something remarkable. You’re not even actors - this is just a sickness, and a good society would absolutely mock you every chance you get to shame you into being more productive citizens of the country.
What’s more you’ve fundamentally embarrassed the institution- Nalsar was never a university with radical active student politics - but it was always a university that was taken seriously because its students were interested in becoming good lawyers and would try to do that everyday. You’ve painted the university as a fundamentally unserious sort of place because of your ignorance.
And this is how institutions die- look at the number of things your alumni batches did to improve the university, the public lecture series, the Moots they organised , the IV, the film festivals ? The idia stuff - those students understood where they could be impactful and worked to leave the place better than they found it. These guys aren’t interested in any of that - that takes work. They demand you applaud them for having a late lunch and attending classes. Jesus Christ get a grip.
I'm not sure what your grievance is about, but I think you know exactly who you're targeting probably due to jealousy. Able-bodied persons can have their own struggles w.r.t. emotional trauma, remaining undiagnosed. Doesn't mean they do not get to avail DSC benefits here. If a competent authority is processing their registration, it's literally between them and the student. Your grievances harm your fellow batch mates.
Go talk to the DSC, figure out on what basis they allow relaxations. Maligning your own people is not okay.
He/ she said it Rahul Gandhi of Noida
what do you think? good idea to embrace AI in legal education?
If the student won the essay competition, he/she should be smart enough to get a job at a better firm, hopefully. Good luck.
Also, I'd appreciate any insights into Resolut Partners as an organization, its work culture, compensation, quality of work, learning opportunities, and work-life balance. If you've worked at the firm or have reliable first-hand knowledge, please share both the pros and cons.
I'm genuinely trying to make an informed career decision, so I request that only people with first-hand experience or credible information respond. Please don't speculate or mislead. Any honest feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Also, a white-collar case is nowhere comparable.
Only exception: international arbitration. That IS very portable and basically the same everywhere. But it is a very closed international clique. It's not a question of putting in applications to foreign arbitration firms - they will be thrown away without being read.
If you put in 2-3 years working for one of the top arbitration lawyers in India, learn about the field, build relationships with foreign lawyers etc, and basically do a lot of good networking, you have a chance.
Everything in the previous paragraph takes your post at face value - that you are actually telling the truth. I note this because there are things that seem very unusual about what you say - and I am coming from the point of view of a visibly disabled person who attended the type of flashy western university (whose disability support system is very good) that Jindal/JGLS would be trying to emulate to climb up the rankings:
1. First of all, in many circumstances, people with laptop kind of arrangements wouldn't have that in isolation. They would have it along with another arrangement, that is often called a "separate room". That's literally what it says on the tin - they'd be in a different room from the non-disabled students. Among other things, that helps invigilate them better.
2. You'd have to be the world's biggest prat to allow in internet-enabled laptops for in person examinations that didn't allow access to materials. Why! At my university, I couldn't even carry in my own laptop! (Even if I had turned the internet off.) I was given one of theirs to take my exams on. And, while my own laptop had an Indian keyboard, that was one hell of an inconvenience, because the placing of the @ symbol and quotation marks on a British keyboard compared to an Indian one are very different - an important point to note for lawyers taking exams.
Jindal as a university and JGLS as a law school may (does) have many faults, but you are making a very tall claim: that they are making elementary mistakes in walking a path that the type of universities they are aspiring to beat in the global competition do not make.
Moderators, please have this deeply provocative, problematic and irresponsible post removed, unless the author of it is able to provide proof in some form of what they are saying, or unless they give a written undertaking to you (privately is fine) that they will put their accusations before the appropriate authorities. Put a moderator note on the post to flag it as unverified material unless and until the one who wrote this helps resolve the issue one way or the other.
For a PPO at Tri, the presentation plays a huge role. Good luck!
Like with all good things, many make the absolute worst of it.
It's growingly common practice in my batch at JGLS for able bodied students to obtain a "fake DSC." I personally know of students who suffer from no actual ailment but do have an extra friendly family doctor who can tinkeringly create whatever is needed. These students then use the committee to claim relaxations such as alternative assessments, extended submission timelines, extra time for in person exams, and the worst of all, I have seen students bring internet enabled laptops to physical mid term examinations, and google their way through the same paper everyone else is writing (with extra time too). Of course it is undeniable that there are disabilities that are not visible, and I am not judging students for not having a visible disability. I just personally know and have heard students admit, with some pride even, on how they gamed the system with their DSC support, without actually having a condition or needing support. Since grading is relative, these relaxations really do have quite an impact, and in addition to the general student body, it's the students with genuine, especially non visible disabilities, who now get to deal with more side-eye every time they use the support they're entitled to.
bro even after we leave office by 10ish we have to work till 1-2 researching some basic drafting proofreading, responding to emails, planning, etc. .................zzzzzzz, feeling sleepy, bye. (sorry timesheets bhi bharni hai)
Attendance, projects, internships, placements and exams - how cruel the world is that it only demands you improve yourself everyday ! How unfair - none of the previous batches has to do any of this- they were all just given law degrees for watching Netflix and laying about near the lake !
I am so done with the chase man. 4 years of law school seem to assessed solely by whether one manages to get employed. Worse, I am so clueless about what to do if I don't. Can't skip classes and intern endlessly. Neither do I want to, to only be disappointedly informed about a lack of vacancy in my last week of internship. Years of co-curriculars, decent grades, publications and genuinely thinking maybe I like law, only to be unemployed. Familial responsibilities, peer pressure, the fear of not bagging a corp job when that's what you have looked up to right from your first year when your seniors would flex it - all of it is just getting to me. God, please, just give me a job. I really don't have it in me to keep stressing over it.
It's a remarkable piece of software. Like it or not, it's here to stay. Might as well understand how it operates and derive what benefits you can.
The extent of dependency is fair though. But that is its own separate issue.
It's absolutely impossible for her to be an adult who can make her own decisions and her own mistakes, and an extremely intelligent and successful professional at a law firm where the starting salary is like $500,000 per year, who chose of her own free will to have an adult relationship with her boss, either because she was genuinely attracted to the intelligent, powerful law firm partner, or because she thought she might get some career advantage out of it. It's also impossible for colleagues (even bosses and subordinates) to date and get married and have successful relationships - it's always only the man taking advantage of the weak and helpless woman.
Why hasn't this man been arrested and executed yet??? There's video proof of his actions!!
my cgpa right now at the end of sem 6, year 3, is a little below 7/10 and the average needed is at least a 7.5
i also am still in the process of writing my first research paper (because acc to me im supposed to find an entirely novel gap that no one has thought of before fully) and i havent done an international moot yet, didnt win at national ones i did before either.
it just wasnt the best time. i do have some decent internships though
so yes i have 2 more years to go and i will do my best, however, right now i just feel like i am doomed and wont get a job. i seriously considered going back to law school again.
so well can you please help me out and tell me if that is in fact true that i have failed and wont get a job.
What is the likely course of action next, will they call me to just submit the photos, or will it get rejected outright? Or is there a chance that they overlook it, please let me know, thanks in advance!
and how likely are they to get converted into an internship, and if so, how? what is the process?
thankyou!
thankyouu.
All of us marinate in this misery but 2 saal mein sab theek ho jayega kuch nahi hota - all it indicates is that after 2/3 years you would get to do unto others what was done to you.
It sucks. It will continue to suck. There will be days/months where you may be better off but the terrible days will more than compensate for them. Hold on for as long as you can or want to. Everybody works in firms only for the money.
Current understanding is that it’ll be 3 hours long with bare acts being provided. Can anyone who’s given this round help me with what kinda questions I can expect? What kinda prep should I do?
Thanks!
Will doing a pg diploma from nls help me out in enhancing my cv. Also can it increase my chances of getting job as assistant professor at a good institute.
kindly share your experience with the course.
thanks!
Let me assure you most male married partners have unhappy lives and wives and would be tethered only for the sake of their kids. And most juniors if they feel someone is coming on to them know how to avoid these situations. Youre law associate and cant be this ditzy.
I am sure Wachtell will deal with this because its now public. Thankfully, American orgs will also realize this is between the male partner and his husband. Quite hard for the junior to say i was coerced when youre liplocked in the middle of central park.
Like with all good things, many make the absolute worst of it.
It's growingly common practice in my batch at JGLS for able bodied students to obtain a "fake DSC." I personally know of students who suffer from no actual ailment but do have an extra friendly family doctor who can tinkeringly create whatever is needed. These students then use the committee to claim relaxations such as alternative assessments, extended submission timelines, extra time for in person exams, and the worst of all, I have seen students bring internet enabled laptops to physical mid term examinations, and ai their way through the same paper everyone else is writing (with extra time too). Of course it is undeniable that there are disabilities that are not visible, and I am not judging students for not having a visible disability. I just personally know and have heard students admit, with some pride even, on how they gamed the system with their DSC support, without actually having a condition or needing support. Since grading is relative, these relaxations really do have quite an impact, and in addition to the general student body, it's the students with genuine, especially non visible disabilities, who now get to deal with more side-eye every time they use the support they're entitled to.
sqe2 exemption is quite easy, sqe1 is a bit difficult
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Thanks
predominantly - disputes and GC