My partner insists on doing research from books. I am pretty sure that I can find the answers way quicker from online search, but I am always asked to refer to books. I fail to understand how does it matter from where I got the answers.

Usually I do the research online and then try to find similar things in the books just to show him. This feels like complete waste of time and effort. I end up feeling guilty for billing clients for this stupidity.

MSM is also confirming it as a suicide. According to CNN News 18, the girl’s parents are saying it was academic pressure and her note didn’t blame anyone. So it’s wrong of media and social media to link it with campus misogyny and ragging. Not saying such things are not a problem at NLUD —they definitely are and you can Google for Kian’s reporting on the #MeToo scandal at NLUD many years ago. But this death seems to be more like the recent death of the Jindal girl in Mumbai who had committed suicide due to academic pressure.

However, one key difference is that the Jindal girl was from an affluent background who was generally very depressed, whereas the NLUD girl was an IDIA student from a humble background, so her depression may have been worsened by economic and cultural challenges.

At the end of the day, it’s hard to pinpoint one particular cause and we instead need counselling in college by proper therapists. Gen Z is a lot more vulnerable than previous generations and this has been made worse by social media. ▮▮▮

https://www.news18.com/amp/education-career/nlu-delhi-third-year-law-student-dies-by-suicide-police-allege-academic-pressure-9040106.html

In the first semester, you don't study any proper law subjects. So look for internships where you can hone your research and writing skills. Law internships are not of much use given your non-existent legal knowledge. Good research and writing skills will be useful for future internships and your law profession as well.

This is simply not true at many levels.

(1) HSB Partners is not functioning now, but when it was, it paid between 35k and 200k. Other firms (local) pay comparable salaries.

(2) "Hostile to outsiders" is a generalization, which is incorrect, as most generalizations are.

(3) "No diversity" : Again incorrect. What diversity are you expecting ? If you are looking for gender and caste based diversity, Chennai is fantastic. If you are looking for linguistic diversity, perhaps not. But the same is true of Delhi.

Look like you had a bad experience.

Indian Economy will grow at this rate for the next 30 years. And it's not something to be proud of. Ideally we should grow in double digits like China and not 6-8% below average growth rate. Whether Rahul Gandhi or Modi rules. This growth rate will happen.

We are a developing country and need faster growth to catch up to anyone. We are as poor as Africa.

As india grows, there will be more demand for CS, CAs, Corporate Lawyers etc.

Hi Guys. I am a graduate of 2023 and have work experience of 3 months in a small law firm. I left the firm because the partners were biased, and I couldn't tolerate the toxicity day in and day out with a salary so meager that I felt ashamed to even look at that after it was credited. I have recently given SEBI phase 2, and hopes are less considering only 2 seats for general.

Currently, I am stuck in my career, and I stumbled across some certifications, as sitting idle is eating me up. I want to ask if the certificate courses from ▮▮▮ and ▮▮▮ help, as they are costing upwards of 10k some going beyond 100k. Do they anyhow standout in my CV considering I apply to tier 1 or 2 law firms? The certifications are of M&A and IBC.

Please help a brother out...

Left my T1 job for a boutique firm in 4 months because of micromanaging partner. Nobody will question your leaving if you can sell yourself and convince them in the interview that you are a safe bet. Skills matter, will to stay is variable dependent on how you are treated/growth/etc. Recently shifted back to a T1 and lost out on one year of PQE and honestly I don’t mind it the slightest. The things I got to learn at my small/tightly knit firm crafted me into the lawyer I am today. Just talk to yourself, figure out if you need to leave and make an informed decision. Nobody knows what you’re going through but you so weigh your options. All the best buddy!

I am a Tier-2 NLU Ist semester student with nothing to show on my CV till now, except that I am member of a committee and also IDIA. Good chances are that I won't have much to show even by the first semester break.

I wish to enquire that how can I start improving my research skills. Seniors are either busy in their own work or just don't want to help much.

A senior told me that I can do my first internship in a T-3/4/5 law firm that will give me work or in High Court at a senior that will give me work.

Will the seniors at legallyindia, please guide how valid is the advice of my seniors (as till now, everyone told me to do my first internship at district court)?

Also, if the advice they gave me is correct, how can I follow it?

Do I need connections? (I am a first generation lawyer with no connections in the law fraternity)

Their HR team is by far the worst. They never reply to emails and don't answer calls. When they do eventually pick up, they ask you to send another email. After many follow-ups, they email back, saying they will get back to you soon.

And then, you never hear from them again.

For context, this happened after they had already confirmed my internship, and I was only trying to confirm the dates and address. I anyway showed up on the first day of the month of my internship at the location I found on Google and no one questioned me why I was there so it ended fine, I ruefully guess.

Thinking of applying to these two (delhi) for my mandatory internship. any idea of their workload? don't wanna do too much since I also have to prep for an intl moot side by side, would rather take it easy + focus on the moot than get fucked in terms of work.

also note, applying to vidhi corp team.

tia :)

You can certainly start thinking from the very outset and there is nothing wrong about it. It is never too late or early to think about your career aspirations. Your disability might or might not affect your prospects. However, rest assured, be positive, aim high, and you will be able to navigate and locate yourself per your destiny. Coming over to the precedents. As posted in the trailing thread, there have been instances wherein persons with disability have been able to secure job at the law firms you are targeting. A person with achondroplasia and locomotor disability from NALSAR'24 got recruited through PPO at CAM. Likewise, a person with visual impairment from the same batch got recruited at Poovayya & Co. You can try reaching out to them for further assistance. I am not sure whether the former has a linkedin or not, but the latter does have. Or otherwise, just reach out to someone from this batch, and they will be able to guide you as to how you can reach out to them. Just focus on yourself, and don't let your disability define your worthiness. Cheers.

I need guidance and help; I am a Nmims student failed in one subject in 6th semester, because of which I have an year back due to some health conditions. Now every situation is haunting me-

1. Will I get a job in T1 or T2(I don't have any back support and 1st gen)

2. Will I get any internship or job in any specific field other than dispute( I have intrest and worked in B&D, regulatory, caps mark)

3. Will I be eligible to give judiciary.

Till now I have presentable with sound internship and publication

Great news! Even resembling the US of the 1970s is a great achievement for a poor country like India.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/consultancy-/-audit/as-ma-scene-hots-up-india-inc-strengthens-in-house-legal-teams/articleshow/113072744.cms?from=mdr

Personal choice more often than not. Some people prefer the sarkaari lines (UPSC or state judiciary options), while others prefer to study further (foreign LLMs or more recently MBAs). Some tread the line between these two by getting a judicial clerkship the SCI or Delhi HC. They plan to convert it into the LLM a year or two down the line. Then there are some who come from families with background in law. They join their parent’s offices.

I should think these varied options can account for most of the 34.

I would not advice you to do side gigs. You should be completely focused on your internship. You may explore the possibility of staying in a hostel. That will be cheaper. Back in our time, on recommendations, IIT - Delhi allowed people to use their hostel premises for an internship. You may obtain such a recommendation from your college and contact IIT - Delhi or any other public institution in Gurgaon or nearby. That can curb the burden.

What about someone who does 3 year llb after studying humanities (including legal studies in 11th and 12th) and then pursued majored in political science and minored in economics? I did so simply because committing 5 years of my life to law was something I wasn't sure at 17. I did not want to get burnt out during the 4th year. Now as a 20 year old graduate I've never been more sure about my career including specialization because I have a bird's-eye view of the law curriculum since class 12th

Exactly. Also, they should first change their names to SLU : State Law Universities. Neither are they central nor of eminence. The actual national universities are DU, JNU, AMU, JMI and BHU. The actual eminence institutions are Jindal. NLUs are just money grabbers. Higher studies are not worth it there.

It's not a normal entrance exam paper. It's UP, Delhi, UK, HP, MP JUDICIARY papers. Pre & Mains. Objective & subjective papers. Even to the point of sitting in interview boards. It's not your one day cramming corrupt NLU entrance exams that you crack just cause you studied in an English medium school. Moreover, cite any legal research coming out of any law school in India, and you won't find even one that's worth their salt in the international market.

Cite any research from NLUs including the ones from the Messiah himself, that are worth it ? Can you ? Also, the fact that NLUs have no role in judiciary exams shows how relevant they are. A judiciary or psc paper being set & checked by these institutions shows that they're reliable enough.

The above instances are exaggerated or extreme examples, but micromanaging is not just these extreme events but also regular or routine practices where you are not treated as an adult and every little thing is to be done to the exact specifications of a human being who is usually 2-5 years older to you.

Just saying this so the absolute psychos who micromanage don’t think they’re not micromanagers because they didn’t shout about a comma etc. You know the kind of ridiculous stuff you’ve done and said I personally wish you hell.

More or less the same.

- The B.A. LL.B course in Bhopal is better, while the B.Sc and BBA courses available in Jodhpur are unavailable in Bhopal. Bhopal has a new cyber security course, but it is in its infancy.- Jodhpur has fewer reservations in student intake, so the student community is more diverse.

- The Professors in both colleges are equally blah, mooting, sports and academic cultures are similar.

- Bhopal is a more congenial and prettier city than Jodhpur.

- Local placements are similar; Jodhpur has a few more T.C.'s to its credit.

Baaki sab budhdhiman hai

I graduated from a tier-3 private college and worked my up to the corporates law scene somehow. Currently have 1+ y PQE in general corporate and transactions. However, What I feel is that my growth is being stunted due to absence of a professional certification, such as Company Secretary course. I thought of giving the exam few times in the past but due to time constraints, i never gave proper attempt. Also, since my current pay is almost equal to that a qualified CS, i felt it irrelevant to pursue CS at this stage. However, I do know that it will come to bite me back some time in the future.

Of all the other additional certifications I know of - LLM, MBL, MBA, CFA , none would supplement my professional growth lie CS would, however, It is a time devoting and uncertain course which i am skeptical to take up at this point due to other professional commitments. What can i do, if i can, to make up for the lack of the professional degree ?

Since the last hearing, there have been developments that work both in favour of and against the WB govt, so expect fireworks in the Sibal-Menaka vs Tushar Mehta vs Karuna Nandy-Bikash Bhattacharya battle!

In favour of the WB govt:

- Lots of trolling of DYC online by BJP/Left leaders and student protestors, on the allegation that he is going soft on the WB government. This makes all of them liable for contempt of court.

- Doctors at RG Kar are striking even after DYC told them not to. Again contempt of court.

- Online trolling of Kapil Sibal, Menaka G and various left-liberal intellectuals. Could invite action.

- Every other day protestors are blocking roads in Kolkata and inconveniencing the public.

Against the WB govt:

- Abhaya’s parents have told the media that the police tried to bribe them and ask them to accept the case as a suicide. The police hurriedly cremated the body.

- Alleged that the police circulated a morphed crime scene photo cropping out the presence of a TMC leader (Avik De)

- Proven that there were no attempts to seal the crime scene and evidence destruction a real possibility

- Abhaya’s colleagues have allegedly told the CBI that a massive coverup is being attempted.l and given names in an envelope.

- Protestors, including women, beaten up by TMC goons in Cooch Behar. Multiple reports of protestors being abused and harassed.

Have worked with rupali. She's very good. Quality most important. I have been at receiving end of comments on drafts and after factoring her comments, I was convinced on many occasions that she was right. You have to adapt to working style which is easy. Short term it seems difficult, but learning is very good across years. Rest of the comments I don't have views. But its small setup and one year old so they might be building some parts like HR.

Do the in-house job, but start a side hustle in what you like. You can use your money from work to fund your hustle. This isn’t a hobby, but something you see will become your full time job later on.

Try to get in touch with people in that industry as working alone is very demotivating.

You need to time to explore. Unfortunately in Indian households, we are not taught that skill or patience to explore things to find our passion

Menaka’s dad has written an article in Deccan Herald condemning the right-wing trolling of her. He has made made the elementary point that lawyers have a constitutional duty to represent their client, and clients have a constitutional right to have legal counsel, however unpleasant the task may be for the lawyer. Thus Menaka is actually furthering the cause of fundamental rights and justice and not harming it. He has said that this is a long tradition in their illustrious family of lawyers.

So we should all close the matter here. Let’s respect Menaka for not only working on popular human rights causes, but also unpopular causes, both equally in the interests of justice and as a servant of the court.

If as a law student you think a human rights lawyer should only work on popular causes, then that lawyer will be failing in his/her duty and YOU will be failing in your duty as a law student!

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/amp/opinion/columnists/mohan-guruswamy-without-fair-defence-right-to-fair-trial-is-meaningless-1819145

The moment you do something only to appease your parents and not from your own interest, chances are high that you will regret it in the long run. It is very difficultt to build or sustain interest or motivation in a field that you were hesitant to even enter.

Out of curiosity, what UG course would you have done if you had the choice? And why did you continue with LLM if you found UG law uninteresting even after 5 years?

Leaving any job after less than a year reflects poorly on your CV. Future employers also want to hire people who will not up and leave at the slightest inconvenience. Stick around for at least a year unless it's completely intolerable (which from your description is not the case).

Oh hello Mr/Miss so & so.... I'm working at JSA past 4-5yr & from my knowledge only Partners (recent was Singapore) get foreign visit signals otherwise below PDs or PAs very rarely any employee get these signals. Videsh ghumane ke karche bhi lagte hai train ka general ticket par ghum kar aane wala syatm nhi hai

overworking-underpaying, rejecting your draft without reading it, unnecessarily aggressive, not-accommodating, fixed work hours even if there's not much work, snarky comments, lack of boundaries, overfriendly/informal-sick "jokes", etc. I work with you I'm not your friend please behave.