While some NLU student bodies whine and complain and post on this forum over strict administrative action over low attendance, GLC students file a writ petition in high court and got an interim order permitting their assessments to continue. One of the students who moved had zero attendance. Just shows that rather than living in an echo chamber and pointlessly learning how to vomit out non entities like Dworkin, it is real world intelligence that will propel you to the next level.

Which grade you say 🤔 7th like bruh your plans gonna change 100 times , 2nd there is much more to explore , in reality you dont know what to pursuit its the enviornment near you which is shaping your career priorities as of now a 7th grader would not know a shi. Abt real law .

Enjoy your life think abt it in 9th or later .

All the best 👍

Not to discourage you, but I agree with this sentiment. I think you need to re-frame the question as

Why do I want to enter legal academia in India?

The answer will never be money, prestige or fame - if it is, re-examine if academia can ever get you there. The reason, as indicated in your answer, will likely be your passion for something (which is constitutional law). I would urge you to explore if this passion can be satiated through any other means (something like litigation) before choosing academia. Seeing as the immediate payoff in academia (assuming you will eventually do a PhD as well) is similar to litigation, it may not only make sense in the short run, but also the longer run, will litigation will undoubtedly be more rewarding than academia. You can also eventually guest lecture if you want to as well.

The death of a 34-year-old engineer in Bengaluru has sparked an uproar on social media. Atul Subhash, who recorded a 90-minute video detailing his ordeal and left behind a 24-page suicide note, accused his estranged wife and her family of harassment. He also held Reeta Kaushik, a family court judge in Jaunpur, responsible for driving him to this extreme step. Netizens have rallied online, demanding justice for Subhash and urging Accenture, where his wife is employed, to terminate her employment.

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So I'm a NRI student (have kerala nativity ) and based on my rank (140X) am getting Nuals on merit as well as possibly NLUJ/GNLU....My parents dont mind paying the fees but wanted to ask if it is rly worth shelling out 5x for NRI In A T1 instead of Going to a T2 when comparing to the opportunitys provided.Also Have a pretty decent LNAT score to go Jindal(dont qualify for Scholarship)....Would be really Grateful if yall could guide me

Hi everyone, posting this for insights on career prospects and tips for opportunities.

I am currently doing LLB from a top-ranking university in a common law country (rank in double digits). Post my degree, I can practise in two jurisdictions and plan to enrol in the BCI. I hope to work in the country of my degree for a few years, get my residency, get some savings and move back to India.

What is the general attitude of law firms hiring people from foreign universities?

What are the kind of fields I should pursue now that you think would have good scope in India?

Any overall tips on what I can do passively in the next few years so that I can get a job when I choose to return?

The fact that Indian equality law is fucked isn't something Sudhir can do much about in the short to medium term! Honestly, I'd have kept it at 15 seats, if I could - imagine that! An undergrad programme similar to Yale Law School's LL.M. class (usually about 25 students) in its size! Also, let's keep it real, you cannot artificially keep tuition fees down. For good faculty, good infra, good halls conditions, universities need money. We are supposedly a world economy with good prospects, why not develop (if not for every scam uni in India, at least for the good ones, like NLS) a student loan-style system, like what is there in developed countries?

Enough of the frivolity. Universities around the world are assessed on how they do their outreach to stretch the aspirations of people from working class (or other marginalised) backgrounds, who may have had beliefs drilled into them by teachers/lecturers, seniors/fellow students from non-marginalised backgrounds, university advisors at school, parents, society etc that they aren't worthy of the best intellectual spaces. Why should only Indian unis (or NLS specifically) be exempted from scrutiny on this front/not be doing such work?

Quite amazing how people keep suggesting NLS. Buddy, they have a batch size of 310 versus just 120 at NLUD. And while faculty may be better, when there are so many kids to cater to, there is no way you’ll get any proper attention as per your interests. Your opportunities for co-curriculars, and a more diversified pool of career choices will be far better at NLUD today. Not to mention the location is hands down better despite Delhi’s pollution issue.

Let me count the ways:

1. Following the Jindal model of hiring NLU alumni with foreign degrees as faculty.

2. QS rankings focus.

3. Publications focus (to boost QS rank)

4. Tie ups with foreign universities

5. Crazy expansion in student body to raise money

6. Non-law degree programmes.

This is not the flex you think it is. I don't think a CLAT rank is a standard of anything. If that was the case, then all 57 of those with the NLSIU-worthy rank would have turned out to be better than the Oxbridge professor you speak about. It just proves that CLAT ranks are essentially meaningless.

The work enviroment is toxic, which hampers the work efficiency. They don't have enough work. They claim that they work on off-days but I have not seen even a single person in the office on holidays except for an office boy. They taut everyone about discipline but they usually reach office late.

Oh and beyond alma you as individual is what? Probably learn from these tier 2-3 college student who manage how to build their career without alma and connections. Btw, alma sounds same to me like connection. So get a life bro and be humble otherwise no wonders you will be a prey to your illusion pack of shamirpet.

Listen, you arrogant brat,Sitting in your sheltered campus with zero real-world experience, you’re the last person who should open their mouth about things you clearly can’t comprehend. You’re just another privileged clown talking big without a shred of actual corporate exposure. Focus on getting off your high horse and try to land something real instead of staying in your safe little bubble defending your equally clueless batchmates. God forbid you step out and realize you’re utterly useless

u/NLUD, please do keep the mark of a reasonable answer key, show the consortium that faulty answers cannot be resolved by justifying them with low-quality reasons if at all. Consortium cannot be my way or the highway, we are students, and we are the most important stakeholders in this exam, it's not that we are just the outliers and the experts, coaching and all are the main stakeholders, we put in hours together, we put our efforts, we gave mocks, you can be exhausted of the coaching market blooming from CLAT, but honestly joining coaching doesn't secure a rank at all, coaching provide us material, mostly sourced from online just a bit more oriented, but they don't write our mocks, they don't sit with us for our speed reading sessions, they don't personally come and explain every current event happening in this world, they don't write our notes, they just give us a direction, and gaining a direction is necessity, and the 3.75/or 5 marks difference which CLAT created and blurred the lines amongst the ready vs chill ones, was the reason everyone put in their effort to ace. We didn't study to score 120/120, we worked everyday to create a marginal difference of 5 marks, which was snatched from our hands and we, the main stakeholders were rendered helpless that we can't even resolve it in the midst.

I believe AILET must show the consortium that even if the provisional answer key is wrong for some reason or given a different reasoning, and the majority opinion says otherwise, reconcile that systemically, and not with gaudy committees.

We as students expect a well-reasoned and satisfactory final answer key for AILET.

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1. You have replied to the wrong comment. The comment citing IIT Economics is down below!

2. Flip that argument: wouldn't people have said that the raison d'être of IIT was to offer science and engineering and not other programmes? We can't remain stuck in the past forever!

I wanted to know which teams (specifically partners) draw highest salaries in Tier 1 law firms and how much is the difference between each team approximately. It would be really helpful if someone who is familiar with the compensation and pay structures to give detailed answers

Please include the following teams-

gen corp/M&A/PE/Vc/transactions

Disputes - lit/arbitration/white collar

Projects/taxation/ IPR/ real estate/ banking and finance/ projects finance etc

Kid, I've as my alma an institution that every person in the legal domain in the country and beyond acknowledge as one far beyond yours. So stay in the jungles of Shamirpet and keep thinking why you couldn't crack that PPO. Perhaps it's got something to do with your attitude as you've given ample evidence of here itself.

NIRF's ratings are all manipulated through dirty make-up, its all on paper only, reality is beyond ugliest. faculty talk, manipulate, discriminate, marks are never published, ... opaqueness puts even granite to shame. Gold medals are awarded behind doors beyond considerations laid in text. the fact that a young life has been lost wouldn't shake their soul for they have none. the standards are at the bottom of the OVAL surrounded by the cracked rim of RCC pavement. FORGET about it getting any rank even comparable to NLUD, NLSUI, NALSAR, NUJS,.... being costliest doesn't mean being premium, it means only "Increased Abuse".

Oh we do know a thing or two about merit. Some of us have worked hard to get good internships and PPOs on our own. I understand we may not have had the ‘merit’ when we talk about CLAT but we are indeed aware of it otherwise just like every other deserving professional. Move on bro, I get it you worked hard for NALSAR and you shall get what you deserver. Don’t put down others in the process.

1. Honestly, I don't have a very good answer to who will correct 50000 papers. I suppose that this must be part of what an admissions pannel, probably comprised of senior and less senior faculty, must be tasked with doing. Oxford, from what I know, uses graduate students to mark LNAT essays that come to them. But 50000 is truely a lot! Perhaps narrow it down? Maybe say something like only those who have achieved 90% or above in 10th boards should apply. That should narrow things down considerably, after all, how many such people in the Indian context where good students are so often going towards science and engineering, will take a law admissions test?

However, I do have answer to uniformity. Introduce marking criteria for the essays ('analytical ability', 'language and style', 'coherency of argument', e.g.). You can see what Cambridge used to do in this document when it used to be called the Cambridge Law Assessment, rather than Cambridge Law Test (see Page 5 of marking criteria). While prima facie the criteria may seem subjective, I think if multiple people discussed systematically and came to an understanding as to what each of these qualities meant and there was some standardisation in marking, there could be some level of objectivity achieved.

https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/publications/lawaa_specification.pdf

There’s a huge role that Anup played in nurturing a lot of scholars in the campus including previous Rhodes Scholars and their profile makes it apparent as well. He also carefully framed a very critically worded set of Campus Rules that has been the cornerstone of guaranteeing student liberties and rights in the face of vc and his stooges who have displayed very little regard for student concerns time and time again. he recognised students as adults and not as kids, something the rest of the people in campus really fail at.

Anup going is the biggest drop in academic standards at NLU Delhi since Aparna’s departure. This WILL leave a void. He is the only faculty member who has genuinely tried to help the RCC through various various means to secure more placements, an avenue NLUD genuinely struggles with.

Anup cared for students and academic culture. Something that except for maybe YP and Danny, does not hold true for any others.

dont waste your time interning at SAM B&F - the team is known for stringing interns along with false hopes, making them do long assessments/paralegalship, only to reject them in the end. They are nothing more than free labour to the team - I have seen this happen to many good candidates too. they just don't seem to want to hire freshers.

I know we read a lot, we research, we do diligence, read drafts, etc. But are you guys able to devote time to reading newer concepts and be excited about tech or new researches or new ethical dilemmas like we used to in law school? I am having a hard time. Finding the time to read is difficult but I want to figure it out. I feel most of my peers are so engrossed by AP Dhillon and that other Punjabi dude that I feel I am losing quite a few brain cells working with them. No offense folks. Someone was discussing Nexus by Harare and A thousand brains by Jeff Hawkins here on LI and I sighed a relief. So, if anyone is able to inculcate reading into their hectic work life, I would love to know how and would appreciate some good recommendations.

Not yet, but you are on the right path. Just read good books mate, Read "A Thousand Brains" or "Human Compatible: Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control"

I mean we have laws in place, a lot of it will be ethical questions when consciousness comes into the picture. But for now, Privacy and IPR laws covers most of the aspects that plague us right now. I haven't read Nexus yet, Harare keeps on blabbering the same thought in all his books with newer stories. Excellent writer though, no doubt.

Bhai this is absolute BS, I am flabbergasted by how you generalised the Top 10 NLUs. There are clear hierarchies within the NLUs, and if you are from one of the top ones, the difference in how people treat you and how you are expected to perform is stark. For instance, if I am at NALSAR and maintain a batch rank of 50 or 60, even if I mess my first couple of years, I can reasonably expect to be placed. Compare that to someone at RMNLU or RGNUL, where even being the topper of the batch may not guarantee placement.

Secondly, how does one build connections as a law student? Either you already have connections, or you don’t. The idea that you can establish significant connections from a Tier 2 or Tier 3 law college and secure placements based on them is unrealistic. The Top 10 NLUs are not the same; in fact, the top 7 NLUs are incomparable to the lower-rung ones. The difference is substantial. For instance, if you’re at NLIU, your opportunities will be vastly different from someone at HNLU, even though the rank of these two NLUs are not so far off.

The quality of your NLU does matter. Every associate, partner, will judge you initially based on your college. Moreover, your chances of conversion significantly increase when you are from a T1 NLU, either because you are generally more competent as a student or due to the presence of a robust alumni network.

So, please do not mislead young students into believing that all NLUs offer the same opportunities. A decision to join a Tier 2 NLU could lead to disappointment. The only NLUs truly worth considering are NLSIU, NALSAR, NLUD, NUJS, GNLU/NLUJ, and NLIU. These NLUs are comparable in terms of placement opportunities, and with decent effort, you can secure a placement at any of them. Anything below these NLUs, and you are largely left to chance.

I secured a rank of 8** (General). I am likely to get a tier 2 college like Raipur or Patiala. While my family can afford to send me to a college like JGLS, I am reluctant to do so. I am studying in 12th currently and I am confident I can do better next year. I am considering taking a complete drop and studying for CLAT and AILET so that I can invest maximum time and effort into my preparation. With the Consortium's questionable answer keys, unpredictable question papers, and high levels of competition, does it make sense for me to take a drop? If yes, would you recommend a partial or complete drop? If no, should I take JGLS over a tier 2 college?

Yes then support them when it comes to actual good causes like offing villains like the UH CEO. And say, I understand your concerns, eg UH CEO needed to go for sure, but here’s where I disagree with you and we can discuss respectfully.

No one is entirely wrong or entirely right. Try to make some mental effort to initiate the dialectical process and not just denounce large swathes of people as boomer or genz woke.

If not, well, sit back and watch hyper crony capitalism, performative wokeism and religious radicalism (mostly Islam) devour the earth whole and then devour each other due to how non compatible each of them are with each other, and take us down to god knows what sort of dystopian nightmare.

RML only has single room for boys now(starts from 2nd year, depending upon room availability), there's a serious space issue for girls (there's two hostels for boys but one for girls and the number of girls in upcoming batches has been increasing) so you'll most likely be staying in double occupancy till final year until a new hostel is made which will take a fairly long time. Additionally for LLM as well, single accommodation for girls is subject to room availability, the odds of which aren't very good rn.

40+ here. I listen to Taylor Swift. I also listen to Metallica, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, and a lot of other boomer music.

If you think they're elitist, you're clearly in a bubble. Everyone in the demographic you and I are part of used to listen to them in the 90s. I've lived in several cities across India, and English music was the dominant form of entertainment. No one I knew listened to Punjabi pop (and I knew a lot of people).

But if you want to attack tastes, happy to pile on. What kind of books do you read? Please list them out and I'll tell you if they're weird or not. Who's your favourite YA author? Who's your favourite non- British European author? Which Latin American writer have you read at least 2 books of? Have you read an Oriya book lately, or a Tamil one (even English translations are OK)?

Whataboutery is fun, isn't it?

look work pressure will always be there, and more responsibilities also once you become a partner. But, in the end of the day, it all depends on how you manage. When I was at the peak of doing business, my week looked like 7-8 hours of each work day with 2-3 days of clean weekends. Enjoyed every bit of my free time then!

Hello everyone

I am currently in my 5th year (uni - 4th or 5th among NLUs) and I shall be graduating in the month of May 2025. During this course of my 5 years I interned in litigation chambers, disputes team of T1 Firms, and at the chambers of senior advocates however unfortunately I couldn't secure any PPO. I have done good moots and I think I have a decent CV with average marks. I want to pursue my career in disputes resolution. Now I am looking for an associate position at any litigation chambers or boutique firm where I can have exposure of Commercial Arb & NCLT matters. Can you please suggest when should I start applying and the places where I should apply?

Im a 7th grader and i wanna pursue law...but i also dream of travelling fr work...is it possible? and if so...are there any particular or specific subjects which i would have to take? and how much does ths cost? are the travelling fees gonna be free fr me or will someone else pay fr me??

Hi guys, I got an internship with Argus Partners at their Delhi Office with the Disputes Team. Could anyone please tell me:
1. What are the office timings like? I was told on the joining email that it starts at 9am, but I have interned with mostly disputes firms and with Advocates and Senior Advocates (want to get into litigation) - does it really start at 9am? Is it not too early? Till what time does the work go on?
2. How are the people and if anyone can shed light on it?
3. Work Culture and the kind of work given?
4. How often does one go to Courts/tribunals etc?
5. How often does one go for arbitration and if they are domestic/international in nature?
6. After how many days is the stipend given?
7. What is expected of me and what all should I know from before?

Would be grateful if someone could reply. Cheers!

Try to join as an in-house counsel and build your way from here. Almost 4 years back I joined at 25k a month. Now I am at 1.25l and my working hours are around 10:30-6:30. Sometimes an hour can be stretched here and there.

If you look at Pay per hour, T1 associates are one of the least paid in my opinion.

I'll sacrifice 5-6l per year right now for this comfort. And do a decade period analysis. An above average in House counsel will be earning more or less similar to a salaried partner (depends on how many jumps the in House counsel has taken and in which industry he/she specialises).

The bigger problem here is not that they’re offering a new course. But who in their right mind will pay 4.5 lacs a year for a non-professional degree when they can just as easily join some DU college for less than 10% of such fees? They’re essentially targeting the Ashoka-type crowd except they have literally 15 unreserved seats to offer for people who would actually be able to afford such an amount. It’s quite absurd.

Bro, if with these 5-6 faculty a law school could get 2nd Rank for last 7 yrs then it's great. You law school must try that. And don't say now - fake data etc. NLUD continues to be a class apart. This year 24000 candidates , a highest ever applied to get admission. This is the first choice for last 15 years.

Not really. The MHADA Srinivas Towers in Lower Parel is exactly the one to stay away from. It stinks everywhere. There are 20+ floors and 1 working lift for the entire block. There are only 1 rhks and none of them have windows. Interiors are equally awful and super small. Not worth the struggle. Even though you may not make a lot as you aren’t a “JP Morgan Associate”, it doesn’t mean you’ll want live in a slum of sorts.

I think right now NLS would be much better to choose-the faculty at NLUD is really declining, with many of their best profs going to NLS and even their arguably best prof (Anup) and P39A going to NALSAR. Comparatively, NLS has been getting excellent faculty, even getting some stellar profs (kamala sankaran, Siddharth chouhan) in the last 2-3 years). Placement scene at NLS is also ofc better, whereas for research i would say NLUD is still better. with new policies, the first year has also become easier (the bo29 did excellently), so they don't bombard you with rigour anymore, rather allow you to ease into it. I would say the debate right now is clearly in favour of NLS and would highly recommend you choose that right now