There are two distinct issues here: merit and bullying.

Re the former, is important to have a superior command of English if you wish to be part of a law review. Just as it’s important to have fitness and stamina if you wish to play for the Indian cricket team. So no sympathy there. I support the decision of NLIU. Tough luck.

Re the latter, bullying and mean comments are not cool. Students who do this are wrong.

I have stucked between confusion what to choose in between this colleges ...i am clear about nluo over hnlu and rgnul.

But i can nliu in mp general domicile.I am confused between nliu and nluo becuase nluo us growing tremendously wheress nliu growth is stagnant and it is detoriating year by year. Can anyone tell me the choice..

One more question to these im currently in dnlu first year .Im 19 and by the time i enter nluo or nliu i will be 20 and .graduating in 25. Does age matters or it's upto you

I have seen in my batch many are 20 and 21 in tier 3 college .

Hey seniors,

I gave clat this year and got an AIR in 1900s they fucked up my results 4.5 less than what it was supposed to be as per the final key. I did fill up for SLAT and looking forward to give LNAT as well. though i have a few questions, please don't mind them if they're a bit vague i am really anxious.

1. JGLS on scholarship vs sls pune, fees isn't a problem for me no requirement for loans if the fees is below 8lpa but idk if it'll be a good investment or not.

jindal would be considerably cheaper with a 50% or 75% scholarship.

2. will it be a good decision to study for mhcet abd try for glc? not from maharashtra though.

3. what about a tier 3 nlus are they any good, idts personally and money isn't really an issue but still should i go with this instead of the above mentioned.

please guide me and provide any suggestions.

I can take a drop as i am only in 12th but honestly clat sucks, i am quite decent when it comes to english and critical reasoning so can do good in lnat but i hate the vague questions clat gives they suck man.

In fact, he was a multi-millionaire and very privileged. He apparently took psychedelic drugs and this made him crazy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14175717/Alleged-assassin-Luigi-Mangione-psychedelic-treatment-surgery-UnitedHealthcare-CEO-Brian-Thompson.html

Why is there never a discussion on the astronomical amount of fees that have to be shelled out for NLU education? While there are commendable non-profit ventures and a few means-based scholarships, charity cannot make up ground for an education system that is elitist to the core. Let's not even get to how rich kids from a handful of metro cities already have an edge because of the expensive coaching that they can afford to pursue before CLAT. Is it because of the structural design of NLUs and the lack of state government funding?

I'm not disabled, but I am also at a foreign university that has excellent name recognition. The library is open till 1 am, sometimes 3 am—exam week; you could technically sit there. But the staff only stays until 5 PM if that. And more severely limited hours during breaks. Only study groups would use the library with regularity; the rest of us study in our rooms or elsewhere on campus; its quieter in the rooms anyway. I only go to the library to photocopy or scan readings for classes. The fact is they would likely not have the library open even past working hours if they didn't have money to hire someone to guard and watch, and students weren't very respectful and professional. It would be unheard of for anyone here to damage a book and not take responsibility for it. And sections of the library have quiet rules anyway, so you cannot socialise there; just study in silence.

NLS' policy doesn't seem too strict to me. A midnight curfew is perfectly reasonable. You also want your students to work efficiently during daylight hours and not work through the night every night.

LLMs in NLUs are solely for PSU recruitment, YP positions in government departments or the long grind in academia. They are not designed for engaging in co-curricular activities like moot courts. Placements are too few and far between, even in the top NLUs. It is time that LLM aspirants get the complete picture instead of having pipe dreams. And most importantly, LLMs after CLAT PG are not a surrogate for quality undergrad education at one of the better NLUs, much like a random foreign LLM without scholarship that one may pursue with the help of generational wealth.

Things to look forward to:

- Big Green Campus, 55 Acres in fact (There is a reason why we also call it National Lawn University)

- Single Rooms from First Year, also first years will get new renovated washrooms and pantry which look very fancy. (You can also install ACs)

- Good Party Culture (Just ask any senior about the Haveli/SDL/Kokum stories)

- Good Sports Culture (One of the best sports contingent across all the law school circle)

- Very Good Library, the infra is getting updated and upgraded at a very fast pace thanks to the new VC.

- Very good ADR, Mooting and Debate Culture.

- Epic Fests: NH-65 and Yuvardha are really good

Supposed Cons:

- Summers are really brutal, but fortunately you can install ACs in your rooms.

- BA Faculty (OP, Asha the less said the better)

- Food: Good enough if you are a vegetarian, but non-veg variety and taste is seriously lacking in the Jodhpur and Rajasthani Cuisine.

- Toxic: People love to back-bit*h and love spreading rumors, toxic competition, groupism. (This problem is in almost every T1 Law School)

- For some T1 city folks Jodhpur as city might not be too exciting as it is slow-paced and conservative.

- Public Transport: Auto Mafia and local city buses all the way, poor transport situation after 10 PM.

Don't often visit Legally India but have been looking at the petty fighting and the comments on this thread with some amusement. Let me give you my perspective - I have no skin in the game.

1. I am a blind person. I study law in a western country at a university generally considered among the desirable destinations for anyone wishing to study law, whether at undergraduate or postgraduate level. Not perhaps Harvard or Oxford type "desirable", but say the next level after that.

2. My institutional library, which, obviously, as a law student, I use a lot, operates on a 24/7 basis. It has pretty good infra, all the usual database subscriptions etc. Sounds pretty sweet? Just one caveat: all the staff with the actual expert knowledge on how to operate the technical systems, be it photocopying devices, scanners or printers, or librarians who can actually help you if you aren't doing a very good job of going about finding readings you need to be finding/those are hard to find or help you resolve small technicalities with databases, leave by 8pm on week days and come in on very reduced hours on weekends, leaving the helpdesks manned by security guards who have hash technical knowledge.

3. As a blind person, I tend to prefer using a quiet space in our library, so I use our Assistive Technology Room (or ATR as we sometimes call it), a quite room with limited ID card access which only disabled students are allowed into, so that I can use screen-reader-enabled computer without headphones.

4. I think the library's very flexible timings are useful for people that may not have very positive learning environments in other places (many private accommodation halls are pretty bad in terms of noise, for example, and my uni doesn't allow people to stay in institutional halls beyond a point).

5. I, personally, have never used the library beyond 8pm. Just see no need. My disability means I am exempted from being disallowed halls. Personally, I have found halls to be as conducive to studying/revising/essay writing/planning or whatever as the library (though I must admit that most accommodation buildings here have single rooms, unlike the situation at NLS, per my understanding), except when there is construction or maintenance work going on there (thankfully not too often). I have always thought that if there are things I need/want to do in person in the library which I may need help with (e.g., sometimes I have to print, scan and edit PDFs of some journal articles which come as firewall protected, which make my screen reader go heywire), better to do it when someone who can actually help is around. As for my sighted friends, I have a good number of these and know enough people in my cohort to think it's a representative sample size, nobody that I know sits around in the library for that long either. In fact, on days when there are fewer classes, I know folks who don't bother with the library at all, and use either their accommodation or home spaces to study. The thing is, with a strong collection of EBooks held within an internal library repository, journal and database subscriptions, you actually end up "using the library" wherever it is that you are studying, and doing what people do in libraries (reading, thinking and writing) wherever you are. If I couldn't find something I was looking for and had made sure to leave no stone unturned to find it, I'd just use email to ask for help, not go in person unless I actually was in the library already.

While I don't know the nuts and bolts of the NLS situation, I do think this conversation has been lacking some nuance. Hope this perspective helps some.

Let me tell you the harsh truth of life. I am from a T2 NLU. I have seen CLAT aspirants give their blood and swear for this exam, which is a gamble because you could never predict how the next year's paper would be. It's the only exam, wherein, you have to pray that your answer matches with that of consortium.

Now coming to the college life part. Every NLU (from top to bottom) is marred with its own internal problems, which may not sound detrimental to you in your initial first year, but as you progress, you will understand that they are detrimental to your career and overall well-being. VCs creating their own draconian policies, faculties favoritism, unreasonable hostel and college policies, student cultural shock, and insufficient academic guidance. Lots of permutations and combinations, you name it, you would find them in any NLU. But one thing you get from an NLU - the top 10 ones: the scope of building connections, having a good and strong alumni-based network, creamy layer crowd. That's it.

Now coming to the internship part, let me break it to you - If you are thinking of building your career around corporate law firms [since most of the first years are enticed by the fancy corporate law firm lifestyle and the big money; irrespective of having an interest to pursue one or not], then college matters the least, IF and ONLY IF you have CONNECTIONS. Let me put emphasis on it, connections can give you the best internships and even placement. NLU tag is the least of your worries.
If litigation is what you want to pursue or judiciary or civil service, then I don't think an NLU would give you any boost whatsoever.

In the end, make your decision at your convenience, life is too different for every person out there. Things that did not work for me, may work wonders for you, or even partially for someone else. So, keep your options wide and flexible and make a reasoned and well-thought decision. You are the best judge of your own life and no one else.
And enjoy your life a bit.

Cheers!
Have a good day!

Hi op here, LLM is an essential requirement for entering academia and I am not in a position to spend money on a foreign LLM. Its not about the ideal situation it's about what is the best option available. If anyone knows which university other than these would be good, please tell.

The left-wing radicalisation of Gen Z is extremely worrying. We have our own naxalites in Indian colleges. While JNU has been a perennial problem, I read a story where a bright IIT Kharagpur student dropped out and joined the naxals after being brainwashed and even killed some people in terror ops 😔

They listen to a lot of Western music and a lot of rock music for some reason. They are not into desi music and at best listen to a few very old songs. The preference for Western music is perhaps because early generations of NLU partners come from elite backgrounds?

Just found this a bit weird. Punjabi pop is the hottest trending genre but they are mostly oblivious about it. And even among Western music the whole world listens to Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran and Bad Bunny but they are just meh about it. Though they do listen to Coldplay, especially the Gen Y partners.

Just my observations….

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Wow. Thanks for this! I am not looking at a chill life by any means - I am a workaholic myself. However, it seems to be that being partner would be worth it not just because of the work, but also the little moments that the money allows me to cherish. Do you mean you have no time for little moments like those of your own?

See it depends: I think the placement will be more or less equal, though NUJS may have some more international opportunities silt cause of its vintage. Otherwise I think NUJS and GNLU are more or less equal. But do consider if you would want to stay in a place like Kolkata for 5 years, I certainly wouldn’t so choose NLS when I had given CLAT.

Hi! I understand that the quality of candidates has been dropping over the years - I'd agree with you. However, I'm a stage where I have to make the choice of going to a T1 firm or not [(I have a job at CAM :')].

My weeks are also filled with work, but I cherish little moments like the ones I mentioned in the initial comment. Just wanted to know if being a partner is worth aspiring towards!

I’ve got an assessment at Wadia before, I’m the person who commented above about the pay scales with bonus etc, I’ve also got into NDA. NDA is considerably harder to get into, assuming you do an internship before your callback you might not even have a interview before your assessment, moreover the longer you are at the firm your final confirmation interview ( always taken by one of the managing partners) will also be a cakewalk as long as you know the basics of what you have done.

I can’t speak fluent English but I really wanted to get into law review as it has too many overachievers, they didn’t take me in….rather whenever I approach any member now, they are very mean to me like unbelievably mean

I am writing this post under the light of recent comments about MCA—NLIU is a sweet but the upper cream of the college is soooo toxicccc

If NLS really wanted to diversify it could have offered a completely new program (like the economics example by IIT that you cited).

The reason for NLS's existence was to offer a 5-year law program. Now all it has done is unbundled the two to offer two 3-year programs, coupled with a land-for-seats scam - it is a laughable mix of innovations in practice.

When clowns like you start defending decisions that are devoid of any iota of common sense, that's when the problems start. If NLS wants to commit suicide, who are we to stop them?

Choose NLS. If this relationship or your gf is genuine and serious about you, she will be happy to see you prosper. More than anything please know that relationships don't last forever unfortunately, at the age of 18/19 we all think this is it but when 2 or 3 years down the line the relationship may end you will only be left with regret for choosing nlud over NLS. Please do not make decisions based on your relationship status

"For anyone who thought NLS was a law school"? Did anyone ever really doubt that NLSIU, the institution which created the now ubiquitous 5-year programme, is a law school? The mere fact that one pure social science course is being started at the university does not take away from the overwhelming evidence which shows that NLS is a law school. Make better and more believable rage bait.

So I need a reference from two professors from my university. However the problem is that I've been an introvert and barely attended class. The professors dont even know me that much. Plus it's been 3 years since I graduated. It's gonna be awkward. How do I approach this situation? Do I email them ? Get their number and text them or call them ? Or do I have to come back to India and meet them in person ? Please help.....

nah fam, callbacks are through contacts too. I am from NUJS and worked my ass off for the M&A team just to know that someone from NMIMS who did his first corp internship at SAM (through ofc contacts) land a callback. Life is unfair at the Mumbai office. This holds especially true because folks in the Mumbai office hesitate to send out your feedback form to the HR on time.

Lol, your sister would have given anything to study at NUJS. She couldn't, hence she can't bear to see you go there either. NUJS has always had better placements in every field, from law firms to policy bodies, compared to GNLU, their student body is much more vibrant and active, you get way more freedom for co curricular activities, and much better faculty compared to GNLU. Moreover, Kolkata is a way better place to live compared to Gandhinagar.

Such shooters are normally frustrated nobodies. Not the case here.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/who-is-luigi-mangione-brian-thompsons-suspected-murderer-idd-as-wealthy-26-year-old-ivy-league-student-101733787095482.html

You have your heart and mind in the right place.

It happened in CLAT 2024 too, the hotstars of bo’29 are in NLUD instead of NLS.

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/407479-CLAT-and-NLS

So i am 19 and in DU doing political science B.A, I am not the biggest fan of and was for a large part winging it because I took humanities in 12th (genuinely like the subjects) but it is a bit of a dead end degree and even more so now.

I bombed my CLAT got a 98** rank and fine in AILET but won't be getting in NLUD. I am a bit confused now I would be 20 next year and 21 when the session starts if I do perp for CLAT26. I feel awkward now even when I first gave the exam there were 17 year olds in the exam center

Tl;dr should I give CLAT/AILET when I am 20 would it pose any issues?

The salary difference is not much. Particularly when you factor that many investment associates start working at an older age than associates. In fact, even most starting salaries at IIM A (25ish lakhs) would be comparable - and these guys spend like 2 years extra studying. More tax also has to be paid.

hello Mr. Bihari, congratulations on having made it to 2 of the best law schools.

As someone who is in a t-1 college and considered retaking clat to make it to NLS some time ago- I just want to express how grateful I am that my luck(end-sem exams) didn't allow me to. Life in NLS is absolute hell IF you aren't someone who doesn't mind sacrificing their social life, burning the midnight oil year long, and be preached that law school isn't about corporate placements. NLS, in the name of academic rigour, can make your life absolute hell. But if you are absolutely sure you have the grit, then go ahead with it. Ultimately, it still is the best law school in the country. I won't talk abou the impact of increased batch sizes on academics and corporate placements here, there are ample threads on it.

NLUD on the other hand is a safer bet. Small batch, doing well academically, decent placements. It is a balanced t-1.

I'm happy that you're suffering from success, but nevertheless, outweighing and compromising education over the relationship is definitely not a choice. The concept of long-distance relationships exists for that purpose. While you foster the bond, you also don't compromise on your studies. Go ahead with NLS, man. The NLS-NLUD Couple looks great and cute. All you both need is commitment and drive.

So the US is going to lecture India on "democratic backsliding" when we take action against JNU and Jamia students????

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/mit-expels-phd-student-prahlad-iyengar-for-pro-palestine-essay/articleshow/116143246.cms

It is unfortunately drowning day by day. There is nothing like what it was an ‘old CAM’ left there, I.e., what it was about 8 months back. Bangalore office at least is fully wiped out, except few left over seniors.

What you get is, the new CAM cum the IndusLaw team who joined CAM. I think only Delhi CAM CM is untouched due to the lovely leadership in Delhi office of CAM CM

honestly just take nlsiu, not because it is perfect for corporate but because of the sole reason that it is the top ranked college right now, there is little to no difference between nlsiu and nalsar when we compare the prospects but if you are also getting nlud, then you might consider nuld only if you want the regional benefits

On the whole I think it was a decision in the right decision but given the numerous quotas and domicile it is funny how around 15 seats out of 60 are for All India General Unreserved. Nonetheless it taps into the intellectual capital of the faculty in the humanities and makes logical sense given NLS offers the LLB and it would serve as a springboard to that. I am unsure as to how this experiment of diversification will work out in the Indian context particular for NLUs but this was the only way to expand for grow and the success of this particular programme will determine whether other NLUs in the future take up the same path. IITs have started offering economics and other courses so why shouldn’t NLUs expand if they have the bandwidth to do so. Ultimately we cannot build grand multidisciplinary colleges like in the United States at this stage but we can try our best. Isolation and division of subject matters and fields in higher education is the opposite of what the norm and ideal is being viewed at and NLS Is acting in accordance with the NEP.

Hi kiddo, first off- congratulations. I am very proud of you!
With the bit of context I have as given by you, if you are definitely getting a seat at NLUD, please go ahead with it as Delhi has better connectivity with your hometown and you can find really cheap accommodations in Delhi to ease the financial burden you may have to undertake. Also, you get to intern a lot more regularly as opposed to the set internship breaks in the other NLUs, allowing you to get an edge in terms of work ex (which matters a lot during placements). NLUD has instituted a lot of scholarship programs too.
Only and only in terms of expenses would I discourage NALSAR as the campus is quite cut off from the city and the travelling alone during weekends sums up in to easy 700 cab ride (one way) and I am assuming the flight tickets back home and etc, would only increase your expenses. Not like the Bangalore campus is closer either, however, there is enough of a community to survive off around the campus itself.
I personally know people from NLS in their final year who are yet to get placed, however with a decent batch rank, any of the NLUs you have mentioned will surely secure you a great placement. The alumni network in all of them will aid you a lot if utilised properly. All the best!