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2. Learn to bookmark pdf files. This helps a lot when you are dealing with large files. It will save you a lot of time and impress your seniors while briefing them
3. Drafting will come over time. Don't stress it but at the same time try going over as many drafts as possible available in your office and try to understand the style of what is expected. You can use chatgpt but it shouldnโt show and also PLEASE verify the citations.
4. Learn to use SCC/manupatra/HC websites/ecourts. Especially helps when you want to understand whether a precedent has been overruled/followed/dissented etc. learn how to check whether HC order/judgement has been challeneged.
5. For those HCs which dont have live streaming - carry a diary/piece of paper on which you write in a few lines what happened in the matter, next date etc. for T1 clients this helps making client updates which your partner will hound you about
6. DO NO ATTEND CONFERENCES WITHOUT READING THE MATTER. No matter how junior you are, now you are expected to read the matter. Even if there are seniors on your team, prepare the matter so that you can step up if required. And trust me, it is noticed.
7. Download bare acts from SCC/manupatra. What i have found is most of the time they are up to date but some acts like the Income Tax Act which is amended yearly was not up to date but that is an exception. Point is that use up to date bare acts so you dont end up looking like an idiot. Also for state bare acts, run a google search to see if youโre missing any amendments because these are not updated periodically
8. If youโre assisting your partner/SA/Counsel in court have all relevant pages handy + print outs available if required to show the Court. Same applies to judgements etc.
9. Try becoming friendly with the court masters/registry if you go to particular courts. Initially all will seem distant but overtime they will help you out in exchange for (obv โนโนโน). But what people dont understand is you cant just walk up to them with 500 and say do this. There has to be a relationship.
10. Keep a worksheet of the matters you work on from day 1. Whether it is research, drafting, preparing a matter etc as this will help you update your CV when you plan to leave. After 3-4 years no one remembers all matters they did unless they spent a good amount of time.
What are they doing, are they hiring, how are the people, is it worth joining, how can we join? General career growth opportunities and work culture would also be helpful.
2. More importantly, what precisely do you smoke? I'd really love to know, because it seems to be something good!
How is the work culture? How is the pay? Is there any work life balance?
- Is there a joining bonus? (Pay is 18 LPA, right?)
- I have not been enrolled in CAMโs Associate Training Program (ATP), and it seems my team hired me as a dedicated resource for their team. Is this a good or bad thing?
- Should I speak to my team or HR to request inclusion in ATP?
- Is there any disadvantage to being a dedicated hire rather than part of ATP? Iโm experiencing FOMO since almost everyone else is in ATP except me.
Context- I am a fresher who will be graduating in 2025 and joining CAM this year.
If you have genuine advice based on experience, I would greatly appreciate it.
Also, mind sharing what's your pay like and which industry is the company based in?
As for freedom with small breaks - it really depends on finding the optimal chamber for your needs and wants. Its really a matter of luck because most chambers come with their own drawbacks.
I apologise for the inconvenience my query caused. I had posted my doubts on other forums as well but most of the answer werenโt useful and some were outrightly trollish. I donโt wish to spend money on something which I regret later, I posted this here anticipating a positive response from individuals who have been in a similar position at some point. The thought Moving to the other end of the country is very daunting for me and I was only trying to be cautious.
Thank you for the useful suggestions.
Bro, who ever you are, get a life. Touch some grass.
- Menon, Chmini and MP Singh as VCs: all stellar academics and very honest people
- Top SC lawyers like KKV, Gopal Subramanian and Dipankar Gupta on the governing body
- No interference from the government in administrative and academic matters
- Erudite politicians like Jyoti Basu, Buddhadev Bhattacharya and Somnath Chatterjee backing the institution (two of them being UK-educated barristers) --- not semi-literate goons.
Do you know what Mamata did, shortly after she came to power? She appointed her ASTROLOGER to the governing body! https://www.indiatvnews.com/politics/national/mamata-astrologer-to-law-university-s-general-council-7533.html
I won't spend time listing the other misdeeds. Will take me hours.
For me, the key date that will determine the future of NUJS will be March-May 2026. If the electorate votes for status quo, then I'd prefer that the college be shut down rather than operate like this.
Also would appreciate any insights on the work culture, timings and the work from current or former associates.
A. PWD means the university did not hold a tender at all. Since technically it represents state government, hence it doesn't have to be awarded through tender. This is state PWD, which is even worse in terms of efficiency and charges way more.
B. Who are these LLM students who are teaching?
C. Faculty sensitisation won't help with the marks. In law, one cannot expect to score 90 out of 100. Too much subjectivity. This isn't science. The ten pointer scale was itself faulty. A MAKAUT tech guy had suggested that, who has since then been removed from the VC position even there.
D. Most important point, students are the main sufferers under his rule. Why aren't they protesting? Why aren't the alumni banding together like NLSIU alumni to push for a good VC? If they accept him meekly, why will the state bother?
So I can finally write rap music.
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I wanted to know if I should switch now so that I don't make the same mistakes my seniors did and if so are there any other practice areas at Teir 1 firms with reasonable work hours and expectations (obviously there may be waves of bad times as long as it is not perpetual). It would be great if I could get inputs from people at different practice areas at various T1s.
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Trouble is. deporting a lot of people in a short amount of time is difficult to get right. What are we doing to make sure there arent mistakes? to ensure that we arent being inhumane to those we are deporting?
NLUJ
HNLU
RML
In same order recommended.
The man has a created a 150+ person firm and is now a very busy Senior Advocate. Either one alone would be very impressive.
Most people on here are so blinded with M&A/PE/Corp that that seems to be the only relevant metric for Tier 1/2 classifications. But if you look at Tax, which is a very large and very lucrative practice, ELP & LKS are the two undisputed Tier 1 firms. That house was built on RSโ shoulders, without him there would be no ELP.
But what about U.K. and Singapore? Even they hardly a single/or maximum 2-3 offers to our domestic students and that too, who have exceptionally performed in their academics, publications and foreign moots. Why donโt these jurisdictions hire in bulk?
CAM - 3
Go do your internship lil bro
CAM= 3
ICUL= 1
Khaitan= 7
AZB= 1
S&R= 3
Trilegal= 3
TT&A= 3
Salary: 16 LPA
I personally use a skybags backpack
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Heard from Headhunters that theyโre looking for 8 to 10 partners with teams, which suggests they are building a strong network of experts. They likely want partners with established capabilities who can handle large, complex projects, not just individual contributors.
A recent graduate is looking for a job, so if you have any leads on current or potential vacancies, it would be greatly appreciated. Moreover, his intellect and previous work would assure you that he is a sincere and hardworking guy; you would know when you get to know him.
"2025 has taken a hit so 2026 will be better"
"2026 has taken a hit so 2027 will be better"
iPad is the best option.
https://x.com/_pallavighosh/status/1932659953010987212
I know LLM from India Doesnโt matter a lot etc etc etc. But want to Honest opinion about LLM from these NLUs. Also if someone can help that in which college does have better hold over tech and privacy laws. Like HNLU and NUJS does have a separate stream for these laws.
A good old backpack from Amazon with a laptop sleeve will suffice at the end of it all. If your budget allows: Daily objects backpacks. Great quality and design. Nice to carry during internships too. Mokobara is great too, but it is quite expensive.
"Following the Pahalgam terror attack on April 22, 2025, the Union Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) has asked the States to intensify the drive against undocumented migrants from Bangladesh and Myanmar. The Hindu reported first on May 14 that the government was sending the migrants across the Bangladesh border for over the past one month. More than 500 migrants have been sent across the eastern border so far. On May 17, 2025, around 140 undocumented migrants from Rajasthan were flown to Agartala on an Air India plane and sent to Bangladesh. Earlier, on May 4, 2025, two Air India planes transported 300 undocumented migrants, including 200 women and children, who were earlier detained in Gujarat, to Agartala and subsequently sent to Bangladesh via the land border. On April 23, 2025, the Foreigners Regional Registration Office (FRRO) under MHA intimated the Kolkata Police that 80 undocumented migrants from Delhi were being brought by train to the city from where they were to be taken to the border for being handed over to the Border Security Force."
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-pushing-back-illegal-immigrants-to-bangladesh/article69621925.ece
From NDTV:
"Kunal Jain, an Indian-American entrepreneur who witnessed an Indian man being handcuffed and pinned to the ground at the Newark Airport in the US, said that the incident was "deeply unsettling". Mr Jain had posted a video of the man being "treated like a criminal" on X, which went viral and triggered outrage on social media.
According to Mr Jain, there were around 50 people waiting for the flight, but no one dared to say anything to the immigration officials. He said that the young man was visibly disoriented and violent.
"The reason I think he was pinned down is that he was a little violent, and he was feeling disoriented. I don't know why he was disoriented. What happens when there is a violent person, they are not allowed on the plane. So, the officials called the pilot, he said we can't take him on the plane because he's a threat to other passengers. When that happened, they pinned him down," he told NDTV.
"The worst part was when the other police officials came, at least seven to eight, they emptied the whole queue, and they tied his legs and hands and held him. At that moment, I literally started crying. Why did they do that, and so publicly," Mr Jain said, calling the moment a "human tragedy".
There were communication issues between the Indian man and the officials as the former was speaking in Hindi and Haryanvi, Mr Jain said."
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/witness-on-indian-man-being-pinned-down-at-us-airport-nobody-dared-to-8630356
Bro, are you 14 years old? I've traveled to every state in India, and a lot of countries outside India. Someone who does not speak the local language is a walking moneybag waiting to be milked, in most of the world.
But on a serious note, if you give yourself time, you will be surprised with the amount of work you will get.. So be at it. Get out of the rat race and work as per your pace..
For most people an NLU education is a means to social mobility, and you should strive to give your kids a better life than you had. But parents who are not educationists do not always know what that is. Just because a school boasts a fancy campus and has high fees doesnโt mean your kid will be surrounded by the right type of people or have a good education. He might be surrounded by folks who want to drink or smoke their lives away and the education might be a scam.
Just because thereโs places like Oxford and Yale doesnโt mean itโs necessarily good for your kid to be cut off from all he knows and transplanted into a foreign land when he isnโt mature enough and needs more parenting and guidance.
The idea that rich people somehow cannot make these mistakes or that their choices of what to buy are always right because theyโre rich- thatโs ridiculous. Most inherited wealth is blown away in a generation. Itโs a human impulse to hope that you can throw money at any parenting problem you face. But itโs a wrong one. If your kid canโt hack nls- maybe law isnโt for them, maybe they go to some other school - whatever. But itโs just a massive cope to assert that while NLS got you everything you have and while NLS was good enough for you, and while NLS has been improving- that some how itโs something thatโs not desirable for your kid. Thatโs either bullshit or shortsighted.
Not only have I been to these fancy universities - Iโve also taught some children of nls alumni. Itโs very hit or miss when it comes to talent or intelligence but there is a clear lack of hunger there. They have grown up with everything being handed to them and expect the same thing at university. God help them the day they have to actually earn something.