Not true. Many in top 20 percent also did not get jobs. In fact, many individual with questionable profiles and even low GPAs ended up with jobs. How do I know? My friend was part of the BA LLB placement committee and we had common placements. Some of my peers in LLB who had high ranks didn't get a placement. My recommendation to you would be this: If you end up here, make sure you are on good terms with the placement committee and most importantly your professors. Don't rely only on campus placements. Network with people, attend events where you can meet people from firms and ideally try to get a PPO. Also a lot of individuals at NLS come from privileged backgrounds and have contacts to get internships (this is for both BALLB and LLB student) - don't be surprised when they end up with better internships despite poor ranks, just work with what you have and have a never say never attitude. As a side note: I would genuinely ask you to reconsider LLB. From what I know from my peers in the program- it's great from learning perspective (they get better profs. than us actually) but the job scene is not good for them. We are at a point where even BA LLB might struggle for placements (to a certain extent we already are facing that because of batch sizes.) This is an industry wide problem though, too many lawyers, not enough demand. If you still wish to pursue this profession, make sure you have nerves of steel and exceptional cunning. Best of luck and I hope you get whatever you are looking for in a career.

Listen to me OP, even though it seems bleaks right now, I assure you IT WILL GET BETTER. There are many in the same boat as you because the market this year is really bad and hiring is down in general.

You still have some time before graduation and not to mention, after graduation wherein you can still do assessment internships/ask for callbacks or pick up trainee/junior associate positions to work towards a full time role.

NEVER LOSE HOPE OR DO ANYTHING EXTREME, you have plenty of chances to upskill and make the best of your education with or without an offer in hand before graduation. Now is the time to work on your CV, your Cover Letter and yourself and not leave any stone unturned!

short answer is a big yes.

tbh there’s basically 3-4 reasons why ppl do clerkships.

first is using it as a springboard for disputes practice. i literally know 3-4 folks who walked into azb, sam, kco etc right after their clerkship. second is getting into chambers of top SAs. know a first gen guy from a lesser known college working w one of the best SAs in SC after 2 years of clerking. massive W.

third is getting that LOR for LLM apps. fourth is treating it as a part time gig while prepping for judiciary. and yes it counts in the 3 years experience rule. LRs were smart enough to protect their interests while drafting that judgment lol. (but if you plan on doing this don't disclose that in your clerkship interview for obvious reasons)
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but ngl there is no written guarantee of a t1 disputes job. entirely depends on ur networking game. if ur smart enough it’s def manageable. i know a former judge who personally made sure all his LRs got placed after he retired. real mvp.

source: done judicial internships and talked to like 10-12 clerks about this so i know the tea. Hope this helps.

"No Indian woman would ever lie about being abused in any manner or form by a man—which is precisely why any dilution of the current law" - As if,
Being a woman doesn't mean they are not prone to lying, you can lie irrespective of the gender you are.
In fact there are numerous such cases which by appeals in HCs have found the statements of alleged "victims" in such cases to be purely malicious and hearsay to frame their men partner.
Moreover, "—" using this emdash only goes to show that you have used AI to generate such a response. Please be unbiased as a legal professional, it's the least expected thing from you.

It is quite common. There are only a few reasons for which people do clerkships.

1. Join the disputes practice of a t-1 firm (I personally know many who are working at SAM, AZB, KCO Delhi disputes after SC and DHC clerkships for 1-2 years)

2. Join the chambers of Sr. Advs. I know of a guy (1st gen and not from a NLU / or famous private college )who got into the chambers of one of the best Supreme Court Sr.

3. Getting an LOR for an LLM abroad (LOR of a judge carries a lot of weight for admission committees at top institutions like Oxbridge, Ivy, etc.)

4. Treating it as a part time gig while you prepare for the Judiciary Exam. Yes! clerkship period is calculated

If you have an 2200 odd rank in CLAT this year and have an option of (a) Tier 2 or Tier 3 law schools based on CLAT score or (b) Symbiosis Noida or Pune - based on SLAT test conducted today ( second SLAT scheduled 28 Dec.) or Christ or Bennett in Noida/ NCR and the Candidateb is based in Noida with both parents and a family of lawyers, what would you advise? Esp. Given the hostel situation and lack of good placements in Jindal? Please advise based in faculty, placements, curriculum and peer group as well as Moot court opportunities and Foreigh exchange programs. Thanks.

Before you make yourself the sacrificial lamb, as suggested above ^ please think of a viable exit strategy, it is highly likely that you might be silently made to quit. Think of yourself first. Don’t get involved in team politics unnecessarily. Juniors are the first one to get sacked. All these partners are just firm's slaves at the end of the day, and they will protect themselves before thinking about you. Be skeptical, it will help you survive in this profession .

You go from working for a SC/HC judge (with years of rich experience and knowledge) to reporting to a lawyer who is maybe 3-4 years into the profession. You go from thinking about the application of law to merely correcting grammatical errors and making cosmetic changes to drafts. If you are lucky your reporting manager at the firm may be a smart lawyer, but if you are not, well then you also have the added burden of managing an incompetent senior. IMHO that bit of the transition is painful.

US Legal is some american isolation, our own bureau of standards bull. use a4. https://lawlibguides.seattleu.edu/blog/ambiguous-the-history-of-legal-sized-paper

Hi all,

I am A0 at T1 law firm in capital markets having about 8 months experience. I wish to switch my practice area to general corporate. I am totally fine with starting from scratch. I had done many general corporate internships back in law school (if that helps).

Please guide me how to start, what to do. I would really appreciate some insights.

Hey, I’ve just completed my 7th semester and will be entering my 8th semester in January (Batch of 2027) from a private law college in Ahmedabad, you know which one 😅.

My last three internships have all been in-house, and now I’ve received a callback offer for a 3-month in-house internship right before I start my 5th year. There’s also a real possibility of converting this into a PPO, which makes it tempting.

That said, I’m a bit conflicted. I don’t have any Tier-1 law firm internship experience yet, and I’ve often heard that switching from in-house to a law firm later isn’t very easy. Because of that, I’m unsure whether continuing with in-house is the right long-term move.

So now I’m stuck between two options:

- Do I continue with the in-house role and try to convert it into a PPO?
- Or should I pivot at this stage, try to secure a law firm internship, and aim for a firm callback instead, even if that means taking some risk?

J&K and NE quotas made sense when there were no education institutions in those areas and people had to go out for studies. It is not the case anymore so these quotas should end. Similarly armed forces Quota is not required because they have AIL. In any case why should brats benefit for the sacrifices of their parents. NRI Quota is a money making exercise. Remaining ones are constitutionally supported

Transactions/banking/macro-fin lawyer here.

I am well ahead of my txn law peers ie I'm “semi-technical” in finance, meaning I can actually follow the maths instead of just name-dropping bullshit linkedinwala jargon.

Thinking back on how I picked up theory + asset pricing + valuation math + LBO + Black Scholes etc over the years:

- - Damodaran’s YouTube lectures (gold obviously): https://www.youtube.com/@AswathDamodaranonValuation
- - Cochrane’s Asset Pricing (literally skip all the math): https://www.johnhcochrane.com/research/books
- - PE/VC modeling MBA course I took in a sister institution (USA)

Now I’m trying to get “semi-technical” in CS/AI because I want to VIBE CODE some management and billing apps for my firm... And because my clients seem to think computers can do what I can do now...

- - I’ve done some vibe-coding with GPT5-Codex on ChatGPT.com/codex and made my team a calendar manager in less than 2 days
- - Thinking if I should start a course track with Harvard Law School "CS50 & AI for Lawyers"? Worth the time? https://cs50.harvard.edu/hls/2025/winter/
- What is the CS course track? What is the Damodaran of AI?
- Any books? podcasts? anyone can recommend?? tia

ps: pls don't the stupid childish explainer videos--I want the serious stuff like the Damodaran series

DK the AP in question, they're excellent for all I know...

Most Asst. Profs. in Indian universities would struggle to get any meaningful tenure at any half-decent US/UK university. We do have some excellent Professors of the Practice though, full-time academics not so much.

But, we climbaround a toxic adjunct culture by hiring APs like so across the country, in our "top legal schools"...

Not regularly, but we definitely take a peek once in a while.

The forums exist for this explicit purpose--that we can co-exist in anonymity with ass-0-ciates. Our generation invented the forums.

And without the flame-warring of LinkedIn and Twitter: so yes, Legally India is the only place that a partner seriously reads and writes in.

You should ideally consider RMLNLU, if you are preparing for judiciary. NALSAR is quite distant from the city and they are recently also suffering from professors leaving it. NLS is best if you want to go in academics but if you want to prepare for judiciary or any other exam you won’t be able to manage it with NLS at all, the course is quite rigorous and also too expensive.

Other colleges thst you might consider after RML if judiciary is your goal - NLUJ, GNLU, NLIU

Partners do. The younger partners are in their early 30s, so used to reading LI from their college days. However, LI in those days was a news site which also played an activist role in exposing corruption at NLUs, the Bar Council etc. Now it’s mainly a gossip site with posts by haters, jealous people and woke left radicals.

My partner makes the team highlight to him all those comments that have referenced him. He gets trolled (exposed) a lot on LI. Whenever someone shows him a comment that could apply to him or his team, he sits with his team to figure out who could have written that comment and instead of some introspection, he explains to his team how other people are jealous of his book (passed on to him by an exiting partner).

Ragging has not been a thing in NUALS since the last two years. Drugs culture is there everywhere, especially in Kochi, so don't make that a criterion while choosing and have a good enough mental fortitude to not fall for peer pressure. NUALS administration is not very supportive in terms of placements and campus life is dim. Go for HNLU especially since you are familiar with the city, you will not regret it.

First one will not be an issue because professors check papers in a different way. If 4 professors are teaching, there are 4 parts to the question paper and each one gets to check all copies for that part, be it 240 or 300.

Campus isn't small per se, from.omw end to the other is about a km. It's just that much of the campus is under construction.

It would negatively impact your chances of number of students are high for placement.

You have so much to study in law school that it does take the life out of you. You can reach areas like MG Road in about 40 minutes by metro, but you'll not have time to do stuff.

I have make a correction on above post . This year 92k student appeared for clat and looking at ever increasing clat participants nexr year it can reach a lakh or even more . The numbers are on steep rise since 2020 . And 2x every 5 year . This trend will not stop until india young population didn't phase out . So plan accordingly.

Are the winners of BW legal genuinely talented or is this another fill some form and get an award scam. Do these awards help your career in any way? I saw this year’s 40 under 40 category winners. While I wasn’t impressed with some of the names, I believe a few of the winners are talented. Also what about those who do not participate in these awards programmes? How are they getting ego massages? Need some feedback please, so I can decide whether or not to participate in the near future.

So I have Kerala domicile but I grew up in Ranchi......tho Kochi has vibrant city life with metros and international airports but I kinda gravitate towards hnlu due to familiarity in atmosphere......I want to know what should I do.....my parents like Kochi but are okayish with Raipur.....my concern with Hnlu is the drugs culture and allegedly the toxic wardens......Idk what to do......I like Kochi as a city but still.......I'm also concerned about ragging......please help

Try writing NLSAT and the NLS BA followed by the 3 year LLB - it will take a year longer, but you get a similar experience and all of the benefits. And having an argumentative personality will help. The programme is new,batch size is small and you get mentorship from some of the top faculty.

Some of the reputation is fluff, but ISB is genuinely excellent. It is better than, or at least on par with, IIM ABC. Jindal, by contrast, does not deliver the same student outcomes, and much of its image is built on grandstanding. It is a good school for those who can afford it, and naturally those who cannot and wished to attend may feel bitter. Still, Jindal is not in the same league as the top NLUs. At best it aligns with tier 1.5 or tier 2 NLUs. Comparing Jindal to ISB is apples to oranges. ISB actually supports its students and provides long‑term value that justifies the fees it charges. I would not trust those who would place only IIMs at a pedestal, whether it be IIM Sirmaur or IIM Ahmedabad. I have done in depth research because I am actively considering an MBA.

I am preparing for civil services. I want to do LLM in constitutional law for a backup career in academics. I need a college where attendance is not an issue. Based on my CLAT PG rank, I have chances of getting RGNUL and NLUO. I did my graduation from HNLU. Though I have heard RGNUL is better but NLUO is nearer to my home.

Hello everyone, i wanted to know about firms specializing in esg practice and how's the field overall. i had an environment law professor who used to say that esg is a growing field in India and there is a lot of scope but i wanted to know what kind of work these teams do. i have one publication related to esg compliance and would like to intern at a firm specializing in esg. thanks!

I am from the batch of 2026 studying at a tier three nlu. I've interned at multiple law firms, won moots (mostly national and have world rounds achievements at 2 major international moots), have multiple publications etc. I really really tried guys, I truly worked hard for so long hoping to make my parents proud by getting a good job. But nothing has worked out so far. The assessment internships that I did, did not convert and the Partner informed me and my co interns as well that they are not planning on hiring freshers. This was my last internship slot and I'll have to be unemployed even after graduating. I'm so disappointed in myself and cannot process this. I have tried applying to multiple firms, even boutiques for an assessment but couldn't find anything. The threshold keeps getting low every other month guys - just like everyone else, I initially wanted a tier one so that I'll be able to pay off my student loan sooner, then of course I was content with getting a tier two/boutique considering the economy and now I just need a job that pays peanuts and even that's not working out. In general I've been a relatively optimistic person, but now I've just given up on life. Not even gonna bother doing the bare minimum since it's pointless. ▮▮▮

hi so i had my callback presentation too, it went well - got good feedback from my mentor, was grilled a bit, it was very conversational and entire team was engaging. the partner had to leave mid way so im unsure how he felt about it. can anyone tell me what to make of all this? im really keen on converting this :(

I don’t like her because her advocacy reflects a dim view of Indian women. I think she does this media Tamasha of hers efor cheap publicity and quick fame. No Indian woman would ever lie about being abused in any manner or form by a man—which is precisely why any dilution of the current law, which places the burden on the accused to demonstrate innocence in the face of an allegation by a woman, is inherently regressive and perverse.

On current form, you should go to NLSIU. The teachers for the 3 core courses are excellent, probably matching international standards. For the electives, there is a slightly unpredictable system of allotment among the many options, but you will get a good mixture of regular faculty and visiting faculty which includes several practitioners. NALSAR has suffered a great out-migration of competent teachers (especially the younger group) after the VC change in 2022, so they are struggling to even justify the LL.M. specialisations in their brochure.

i’m done with my UG and i want to do a law degree in NLSIU. i don’t want to do a five year degree, so want to prepare for NLSAT to get three year LLB in NLSIU Bangalore

my aim is corporate law or in-house counsel

please tell me how are the current students doing and how will it be in future also

thanks for the help

As someone who had to choose between the same things and chose NALSAR - 1. That is a problem but that can be a problem at NALSAR too, obviously our batch sizes are much smaller and have only 2 sections, so the disparity would not be as much as 4 or 5 sections. 2. Don't know about the NLS campus, but NALSAR is beautiful and away from the city so it is a good break for 5 years with clean air and trees all around. 3. Your chances will be less, obviously basic rule of demand and supply. Much better chance at Nalsar, because the batch sizes are smaller and it is not as academically intensive. 4. This was the biggest reason why I did not choose NLS. The trimesters are very hectic and the place in general is very academically heavy and I was never that person. NALSAR is much better than NLS in that aspect where our gpa does not become our entire personality [my nls counterparts are suffering because of this]. Also, if you are job oriented, you would be much better being at NALSAR than NLS imo. Make the choice weighing what matters to you, its good that you are thinking about it. Most people don't.

Stick to where you are now. Makes no difference where have you graduated from after 5 years. You will loose an year if you opt for the change. Every day or every month and an year would cost you seniority if you are opting for litigation. Think of all these things before you shift.

Given that all these comments are within a span of one day, this may be malicious, but I will give it the benefit of doubt. But i will give some advice which will work at KCO and other places / practices.

If any junior is facing issues, please privately bring it up with the partners and ask that you not be outed to the team for bringing concerns. From what I know, the KCO partners are decent enough to give you that benefit. This advice should also work in every other competition practice, expect may be at ▮▮▮. Also not all partners are made equal, use your brains before approaching.

In your discussion, bring specific examples which you think were wrong and should not have happened or what you think can happen better. Targeted feedback will help the partners address issues. If you are not comfortable bringing it up with the partners in general and feel you will be targeted, speak with someone you trust. In KCO you can consider speaking to Anshuman one-on-one. Of what I know of Anshuman, he is a super standup guy. Every firm have a few decent guys who would be willing to help you. Other examples being Harman in SAM, Bharat / Toshit in AZB, Dhruv / Vijay in CAM, etc.

No workplace is good or bad in perpetuity. This KCO team is quite small compared to its peers and they have a tremendous amount of work. In these circumstances, people tend to behave badly, but that is no excuse. Bring issues up, so solutions can be brought forward.

Don't expect people / seniors to notice issues that are affecting you on their own, that never happens in any workplace. Even if you think toxicity is apparent, it may be apparent to you but not to others. Everyone, including partners, is busy with their own set of issues and toxicity.

Once you have brought forward an issue, give a few months before you expect improvements. Nothing changes overnight. Even for seniors, it takes a lot of time to make folks break / change habit. Even where partners need to change, they need time to break habits - even when they are entirely aware that change is needed. Change is hard.

When you bring issues, it is entirely possible that partners wont agree to your assessment of the situation. What you feel as toxicity or wrong, may not be the case. As juniors, you may not have enough experience or context to assess all behavior. Most people think they are victims in a situation, but often that is not the case. People always tend to look at their agony through rose tinted glasses. If you bring an issue with a partner, please keep an open mind. If may very well be possible that the issue lies with you or with you and the third person.

Finally, you may not just be a fit in a team. Don't be afraid to leave and go elsewhere. Not all workplaces are meant for everyone.

I want to understand how difficult and what type of questions I will get for lateral hiring in SAM, Trilegal, Saraf and Partners and DSK Legal (all bangalore). I currently have 1.5 years experience in projects and infra (specifcally PPP) and not much in project finance or M&A (as I know some firms combine the fields), but I have some done other works too like review/vetting hotel agreement, drafting employment contarct, lease, LLP agreements, outsourcing agreements, etc.

Can someone please tell me what are my chances in those teams in those Firms, and what kind of questions I can expect in the interview?

Chapter 1: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/237313-chapter-1-the-overthrow

Chapter 2: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/237709#comment-237709

Chapter 3: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/238910-chapter-3-the-resistance

Literally google the assault stats in Oxford! Movies are made about it. All British literature is about the drunken adventures of privileged Oxford kids. Literally Malala smoked pot in Oxford and climbed roofs because she could! Go stand there and you will understand. Universities work because of freedom and people use that freedom in many ways.
I hope you don't plan to have children or that you get a little more mature before you do. No one is saying he shouldn't be accountable. Just that accountability can come with compassion. It has nothing to do with wealth. If you think that people baying for his blood wouldn't bay for a poorer young man to be hanged, you are very wrong. The parents' emotions are understandable but in the long run they are harmful to their own healing: https://www.ldsliving.com/just-let-go-one-lds-mans-story-of-tragedy-and-the-power-of-forgiveness/s/71058 . And there is a good reason that these emotions do not drive justice.

Are we still expected to hero-worship this dude and quote him in college in… like every project paper ever and every conversation ever??? I’ve literally seen first years cite him in their tort law project papers to look cool (yes, it’s possible to apply his moral calculus theory to tort law, but as a first year you’d be better off writing a proper legal paper on strict liability or the Bhopal gas leak case, instead of trying to look like an intellectual).

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/bill-gates-noam-chomsky-seen-in-fresh-pics-from-epsteins-estate-9843279/amp/1

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

Partner speaking here with over a decade of experience. I’ve messed up a stamp duty calculation many times in my career. Relax, you will be fine.

Most likely you will just a rap on the knuckles and it will be done. If in case the firm comes down harder than that, then just know that you are in a workplace that is really not a fair one (especially considering you are an A0 and nobody checked your work).

Don’t fret. Be kind to yourself. You will be fine.