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NLIU 2018 batch secures 80 out of 84 jobs, LLMs, exams • CAM, Khaitan, Trilegal biggest • 8 go for MP judiciary

NLIU 2018 batch celebrates great recruitmentsNLIU 2018 batch celebrates great recruitments

NLIU Bhopal’s 2018 batch has seen 72 out of 84 graduating students secure jobs with law firms, corporates and legal process outsourcers (LPOs), and pursue further studies and other career opportunities.

On top of that, an additional 8 students have cleared the preliminary rounds for the Madhya Pradesh judiciary exams on a first attempt.

The biggest law firm recruiters were Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, Khaitan & Co and Trilegal, which picked up 6 students each.

Singh & Associates and Lakshmi Kumaran & Sridharan hired 4 and 3 students respectively, while L&L Partners hired 2. A number of other law firms hired one student each, including Link Legal, Universal Legal, DSK Legal, Bharucha & Partners, Legasis Partners, Singhania & Co and Vertices Partners (see full break-down in table below).

A total of 20 joined companies in-house or went to LPOs, including Thomson Reuters (4) and Integreon (1). Vedanta and Wipro each picked up 3 students, while other corporate recruiters included ICICI Bank, HDFC Bank and Kotak Group.

One student accepted an offer to pursue an LLM at Oxford University, 2 would take an LLM at NLIU Bhopal, 1 at Nalsar Hyderabad and 1 at Jagran Lakecity University.

Six students were placed with litigation chambers.

The placement coordination committee (PCC) commented:

These results would not have been possible without the tireless efforts and undying support of our faculty coordinator Dr Raka Arya. The PCC would also like to thank the NLIU, Bhopal Administration, various Committees in the University and the alumni of NLIU, Bhopal, for their constant support.

We would also like to thank and express our gratitude to all our recruiters for their continued support to the University. The PCC looks forward to nurturing and strengthening the relationships and ties with our current recruiters as well as build relationships with new recruiters in an ever-changing and dynamic legal services market.

Lastly, we would like to congratulate our peers from the Batch of 2018 at other law schools for a terrific performance in terms of recruitment this year. We wish all of them all the very best for all their future Career endeavours.

The 2017-18 PCC at NLIU was included faculty coordinator Dr Raka Arya, and Milind Mohul Ghosh, Sachin Arora, Vaibhavi Tadwalkar (coordinators), Shivesh Tripathi (V year member), Aishwarya Srivastava, Christina Shaju, Mrinal Mishra, Udyan Arya, Varnika Taya (IV year members), Aryan Gupta, Bhavik Shukla, Kashish Mahajan, Mincy Mathew, Prabal De, Sahil Mathew Mishra, Shounak Banerjee, Utsav Mitra (III year members).

NLIU Bhopal 2018 recruitments: The full figures

Law Firms Recruited
Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas 6
Khaitan & Co 6
Trilegal 6
Lakshmi Kumaran & Sridharan 3
Singh & Associates 4
Trust Legal 1
Luthra & Luthra 2
Link Legal 1
Universal Legal 1
DSK Legal 1
Bharucha & Partners 1
Musthafa and Almana, Dubai 1
Legasis Partners 1
Singhania & Co 1
New Delhi Law Offices 1
Vertices Partners 1
SKV Law Offices 1
Patanjali Law Associates 1
Malhotra & Malhotra 1
Credo Advocates 1
ICICI Bank 1
HDFC Bank 1
Vedanta 3
Thomson Reuters 4
Wipro 3
Kotak Group 1
International Institute of Financial Markets 1
Integreon Management Solutions 1
Karvee Consultancy 1
Pramata Knowledge Solutions 1
University of Oxford 1
NLIU Bhopal 2
NALSAR Hyderabad 1
Jagran Lakecity University 1
Chambers of Advocate Anshuman Singh 1
Chambers of Jai Sahai Endlaw 1
Chambers of Additional Solicitor General of India 1
Chambers of Mr Arvind Baheti 1
Independent Practice in other Litigation Chambers 2
Total: 72
Source: NLIU PCC

NLIU Bhopal recruitment committee celebrates great 2018NLIU Bhopal recruitment committee celebrates great 2018

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Like +30 Object -1 NUJS Student 29 Oct 18, 12:01  interesting  top rated
Before a group of trolls come here and try to stoke stupid inter-law school rivalry, let me congratulate NLIU for such good results. Securing good jobs for students is always important and never easy and the Placement Cell and students should rightly get the credit for that.
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Like +10 Object -1 Bawaal 29 Oct 18, 13:36  interesting
Thanks a lot, really appreciate it. Congratulations to NUJS too!
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Like +7 Object -0 NLUJ 29 Oct 18, 12:58  interesting
Regards from Jodhpur.
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Like +5 Object -0 Bawaal 29 Oct 18, 14:27  interesting
Thanks! Regards from us at Bhopal too!
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Like +6 Object -0 Nice 29 Oct 18, 13:08  interesting
Good going NLIU. You too have cracked the code.

Regards and Wink,

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Like +2 Object -39 NUJS far far ahead 29 Oct 18, 13:36  troll?
The placement stats of NUJS are far far better and shows the disparity in quality. God save those 1-2 people who prefer NLIU Bhopal over NUJS.

NLIU Bhopal has so many tier 3-4 placements and even placements at unheard of places and LPOs. Their reservation policy lowers the quality of students and maybe that's one reason.

Also, shockingly, no foreign law firm placements. Time for NLIU Bhopal to introspect.

PS- In terms of placements NUJS is probably the best in India, but am sure NLIU Bhopal would still want to compare itself with the best.
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Like +18 Object -1 NUJS Student 29 Oct 18, 14:17  interesting  top rated
Dude, whoever you are, just stop trolling. I doubt you are actually from NUJS, at least not a student here definitely. If you are, then have the guts to use your own name instead of doing anonymous mud-slinging. We as students of NUJS have no need to proclaim our 'superiority' over any other law school and certainly have no reason or inclination to pass disparaging comments on their placement. So go away and stay away!
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Like +16 Object -0 Bawaal 29 Oct 18, 14:15  interesting  top rated
Thanks for the feedback! We are continuously working to make NLIU better for prospective recruiters and I am sure with a new very good VC in charge and really hard working meritorous future batch of students, we will continue to do well and also improve. As regards to comparison with WBNUJS we would not like to enter into that simply because I think both institutions are great in terms of its contribution to Indian Legal Fraternity just like many other great Law institutions in this Country.

Further as a coordinator of the PCC I have full faith on my batchmates who have entered into in what is your opinion, tier 3 or 4 institutions. Through their dedication and hard work I am sure they will add great value to these organisations and will play a part in the growth and rise of these organisations. Regards!
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Like +0 Object -0 Bawaal 29 Oct 18, 14:34
This is a reply to "NUJS far far ahead" (Comment 4)
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Like +7 Object -0 Yaya 29 Oct 18, 16:51  interesting
Very good placements, amidst adversity from the bad admin.
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Like +10 Object -11 Guest 29 Oct 18, 16:53  controversial
Can LI confirm the placement ranking? Below is what it looks like but we need an official confirmation from LI.

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Like +2 Object -2 Guest 29 Oct 18, 17:52
Troll spotted. I can actually provide stats to show the glaring errors in this ranking, but why bother?
@Kian: What sort of democratic and enlightening discussions do publishing these inane and wildly inaccurate rankings mean to encourage, other than feeding trolls, pray tell?
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Like +11 Object -3 Guest 29 Oct 18, 17:55  interesting
Wrong. This is the real list. All stats published in LI say the same.

5. Don't bother. JGLS may give some jobs if you need any after spending 35-40 lakhs in 5 years.
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Like +1 Object -13 Correction 29 Oct 18, 19:16
Sorry, it's NLUJ>NLUD>NLIU>GNLU. NLUJ did great this time.
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Like +6 Object -0 Faltu Log 30 Oct 18, 13:00  interesting
If it did great why aren’t the figures out?
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Like +2 Object -1 Shocked@Shamirpet 29 Oct 18, 19:24
Re the 2018 batch (not all colleges have come out with 2019 stats), the percentage of people placed at the Big 7 (excluding JSA, due to its lack of participation in recruitment for the most part) at the top NLUs is:

NLS - 35.5%
NALSAR - 37.5%
NUJS - 38%
NLUD - 16.2%
NLIU - 23.8%
NLUJ - 22.3%
GNLU - 17.1%
HNLU - 0.66%
Jindal - would guess around 5%, but numbers are not confirmed at the moment. (based on 2017 and 2019, which were both in that ballpark)

Disclaimer - It might not be the most accurate metric since it does not account for post grad, smaller firms, companies, etc. It's just an indication of placements at the larger firms. NLS/NALSAR/NUJS are more or less trading blows constantly.

For 2019, less comprehensive, but

NLS - 44.73%
NALSAR - 39.4%

Placements have turned into a measuring contest, but if you are already in a tier I, and you are adequately prepared, there's no reason you won't be placed, even if you not even close to the top of your class.
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Like +4 Object -0 Nliu alumni 29 Oct 18, 22:12
Food for thought. Wipro Vedanta ICICI HPCL HDFC etc are paying at par with Tier 1 law firms at 12-16 range. Why shouldn’t they be counted for correct indexing?
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Like +1 Object -0 Guest 29 Oct 18, 22:35
You can if you want. However, one reason why in-house at the entry level isn't ranked as highly is that it seldom offers the range of work one can experience at a top firm.
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Like +1 Object -0 Guest 29 Oct 18, 22:44
@Guest: While that is true, it is also true that recently, several good people are actually opting for in-house work given the killing work-life of Indian law firms and extremely unhealthy work atmosphere for the most part. Obviously the firms won't bother to change so long as they get plenty of new blood every year.
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Like +1 Object -0 Shocked@Shamirpet 29 Oct 18, 23:12
The issue with that is most companies don't hire as consistently across law schools as the big firms do. It's harder to create a consistent picture when some of these companies hire locally or inconsistently. The big firms on the other hand, hire both consistently and across most well-regarded law schools.

The secondary point is that it is harder to get your foot in the door at the larger firms than most companies. If you are qualified enough to get a big 7 firm, you can also usually get a Fortune 500, although the opposite situation may not necessarily be true. In my experience, firms tend to be much pickier than companies, considering their smaller size and annual intake. For that reason, the law schools with better firm placement can also have better placements in-house, if most of the top half of the class do not go to firms. The reason that there are more company hires at mid-tier law schools is because there are more viable candidates left in the pool when the companies start hiring in year 5.
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Like +4 Object -1 Guest 04 Nov 18, 17:13
If GNLU is so great why hasnt it released its complete figures yet? We all know the true story of GNLU. You guys have 190 students compared to the lower batch strengths of other law schools like NLU D and NLIU. The RCC has not been able to place majority of GNLU graduates and if true figures are shown GNLU wont be able to show even 60% placements without fudging figures. The story of a law school recruitments is not limited to its day zero but the overall placements of its law school in comparison to its batch strength. If the real figures are out GNLU will cut a very sorry figure
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Like +3 Object -1 Guest 29 Oct 18, 19:45
There are 3 clear placement tiers:

Three: Rest

Beyond this, a ranking can be made on the basis of the following factors:

1. Faculty
2. Infrastructure
3. Quality of administration
4. City location
5. Quality of the location within the city (whether in outskirts, whether in a good neighbourhood)
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Like +12 Object -1 Batch of 2020 29 Oct 18, 22:06  interesting
Let’s take a moment out to thank the incredible PCC trio of Vaibhavi Milind and Sachin. They took over the PCC when the previous PCC had left them in a completely terrible state. They steadied the ship and kept the NLIU brand intact with recruiters at a time when NLIU was rocked with The Ranjit Singh fiasco as well as protests and complete breakdown of administration. They also brought AZB SAM and Luthra back for our senior batch and our batch and also created the road for foreign firms with the HSF ILP breakthrough. Thanks a lot guys! You will be missed
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Like +2 Object -0 Oreo 29 Oct 18, 22:51
Not very different from the variety reported in the 2018 NUJS recruitment story. Going by these stats theres no difference between the two and a healthy sign for NLIU which is the senior law school. Same mix of firms and companies, lower proportion to make up for the smaller batch size. NLIU smartly did not hype up their recruitment stats.
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Like +4 Object -1 Faltu Log 29 Oct 18, 23:01
Can all the experts please stop spamming every post with their expert analysis of law school rankings and stop creating a wedge. Its because of imbeciles like these that corrupt VCs exploit the lack of unity amongst the NLU students and create their personal fiefdoms. Your expert comments in these posts wont help change industry perception for better or worse. Instead spend your time rallying your NLU brethrens for a common cause i.e. establishing and crearing actual world class institutes of excellence at the level of IITs and IIMs.
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Like +0 Object -3 Guest 30 Oct 18, 06:08
I agree with some the above comments looking at PERCENTAGE of the batch in Magic Circle/Big 7, rather than NUMBERS. This can be one of the grounds for a ranking, along with the following:

1. Judicial clerkships at SC

2. LLM scholarships at top 25 law schools (bonus for Rhodes, Chevening, Felix, Inlaks)

3. Bonus points for any UPSC entrants up to last two batches

4. Overall percentage of placements and average salary
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 30 Oct 18, 13:25
Hello Kian r u releasing JGLS figures?
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Like +1 Object -0 SLCU 30 Oct 18, 13:32
March on Christites, March on!!!
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Like +0 Object -0 JGLS 30 Oct 18, 15:16
Congrats NLIU B
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Like +2 Object -0 Guest 30 Oct 18, 15:44
Can't understand why anyone from a top 5 to top 7 NLU would do an LLM from NLSIU. Not a huge difference in faculty quality or infra. I appreciate that an LLM abroad maybe unaffordable for many without a scholarship, but why not work for a few years and then try?
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Like +1 Object -0 ibc 31 Oct 18, 11:30
I appreciate that an LLM abroad maybe unaffordable for many without a scholarship
there is your answer. Not everyone wants to do an LLM at 29.
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 04 Nov 18, 23:07
Kian please release figures for the remaining NLUs to people can compare. Also, NIRF is now compiling data for the 2019 rankings.
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Like +1 Object -12 Guest 05 Nov 18, 05:50
Recruitment ranking 2018:

1. Nalsar
7. GLU
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Like +11 Object -0 Guest 05 Nov 18, 11:14  interesting
NALSAR has never been ahead of NUJS in terms of recruitment since 2006 and that's a fact everyone knows apart from you apparently.
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Like +0 Object -7 Really? 06 Nov 18, 03:00
Then please explain the following:

1) ) More Magic Circle offers
2) More Rhodes and other LLM scholarships
3) Being ranked ahead in CLAT preference
4) Being ranked 1 when LI did recruitment rankings
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Like +6 Object -0 Guest 06 Nov 18, 14:11  interesting
Two of the points you mentioned have nothing to do with recruitment, viz. Rhodes and LLM scholarships and CLAT preference. In the scholarship part too, the performance of the two are fairly comparable, with NUJS alumni usually choosing to do their LLM later than on graduation, partly owing to the much higher fees of NUJS that requires them to take up jobs first on graduation. If you include that data, the LLM Scholarships scene will be more or less identical. As for CLAT preferences, you do realise that kids opting for that are mostly lacking info and guided by dubious coaching centres, right? Every year a lot of students still put NLIU Bhopal ahead of NUJS, simply because CLAT shows it that way dure to order of establishment. Is that supposed to mean Bhopal has a better placement scene? At least argue sensibly.
As for magic circle recruitments, it's usually 2-3 from NUJS and 4 from NALSAR. That's hardly any benchmark, estianty considering the number of students recruited by Indian tier 1 firms, which firm the actual recruitment bulk, has always been higher at NUJS.
I've no idea why or how LI made any ranking, you have to ask Kian. If you are talking about admin, infra, current faculty scene, NALSAR is definitely ahead at present. Recruitment wise it isn't.
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Like +0 Object -0 Intervenor 07 Nov 18, 01:06
The CLAT part is interesting, because the NIRF rankings will now further confuse these kids. One problem is that the website of NUJS does not showcase the strengths of the college and is poorly designed.
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Like +0 Object -1 True figures 06 Nov 18, 10:10
The truth is that NUJS had best figures this year. Also NLU D hasnt had great overall placements this year. This is what I have heard from NLU D people. However the true story will be known once it comes out with its figures.
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Like +1 Object -0 Guest 09 Nov 18, 02:54
Some NLUs are hiding figures from LI but are submitting fake data to NIRF for the 2019 rankings. Someone needs to call out this fraud right now and do a proper placement ranking before NIRF compiles the 2019 rankings.
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Like +3 Object -0 Guest 12 Nov 18, 12:06
NLUD placements have been pretty bad this year, well below NLIU, NLUJ and GNLU. Sadly, their great PR machine has succeeded in suppressing this info and spreading a false impression that placements went well.
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Like +2 Object -0 Guest 12 Nov 18, 14:07
I have heard SAM shortlisted several students from NLUD this year right around Day Zero, but summoned them to their Delhi office for interviews instead of visiting the campus, and after having interviewed all of them, chose not to take a single person! That's got to be a first for any NLU claiming a top tier rank!
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Like +0 Object -0 OO 12 Nov 18, 22:31
NLUD claims top tier status because of NIRF, but the problem is that NIRF is fed false data. If LI or Bar and Bench do a placement ranking, the will help a lot.
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Like +2 Object -0 Guest 13 Nov 18, 10:27
Same at GNLU. People were interviewed and they had said that the results will be announced on the day next to day Zero but nobody really heard from them after that.
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Like +0 Object -0 Sham NLUD 13 Nov 18, 05:59
NLUD has refused to their placements figures with LI, because they will be exposed badly.
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Like +1 Object -1 B 13 Nov 18, 11:49
Placements are only 20% of rankings. Rest depends on faculty qualifications and research publications, infra, moots, student:faculty ratio etc. By that count it's NSLIU>NALSAR>NLUD>NUJS>NL UJ>NLIU>GNLU, in line with CLAT preferences.
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Like +2 Object -0 Guest 13 Nov 18, 13:46
Just disseminate it properly among CLAT aspirants that NLU X stands overall first in ranking, but 4th in terms of placement. See how many among the top 100 rankers choose that NLU. Those who call placements to be not the decisive factor for a professional and highly expensive course like the 5 year LLB at NLU are just delusional. Like it or not, at least 80% of the batch join law schools to get jobs.
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Like +0 Object -0 Arrow. 14 Nov 18, 03:19
This can happen only if ALL of the following happens:

1. Reputed news outlets publish the true facts about placements

2. This is brought to the attention of NIRF, and a separate submission is made to the NIRF/government to consider true data. Some
amount of political lobbying may be required.

3. This is also brought to the attention of the leading coaching centres, to highlight that their CLAT preference advice is wrong. Most of the coaching centres are run by people who know nothing.
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Like +2 Object -0 Guest 13 Nov 18, 16:28
Didn't NLIU have a higher super 40 ranking in clat preferences over NLU Jodhpur?
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 14 Nov 18, 09:25
NLUD is just a sarkari version JGLS: lots of hype and glam, limited substance (both are among the top 10 law schools, but are not tier 1).
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Like +0 Object -0 LG 15 Nov 18, 08:13
Re placement rankings, LI has released final stats of only 3 law schools so far: NLIU, NUJS and HNLU. Either the others are hushing things up or waiting for students without jobs to manage something so that they can claim 100% recruitment. But the figures need to get out else fake news will be spread to NIRF. coaching centres and the general public.
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