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84 out of NUJS 2018 batch of 113 get jobs, led by Big Six firms • Total 109 accounted for

NUJS celebrates record placements in 2018NUJS celebrates record placements in 2018

NUJS Kolkata has placed 84 out of a batch of 113 students graduating in 2018, with Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas (CAM) picking up a massive 16 following its successful Day Zero that had yielded at least 40 law firm offers by April 2017 already.

Together with further public exams and higher studies, NUJS has accounted for 109 students out of its batch this year in the breakdown it has provided.

After CAM, Khaitan & Co was the second largest recruiter with 8 students, while AZB & Partners picked up 6 graduates.

Trilegal and Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas both hired 5, while L&L Partners hired 3.

A total of 9 other domestic law firms also hired up to two students each (see full table below).

A total of 4 students also scored foreign law firm vacation contracts - 2 each with Allen & Overy and Linklaters, which pay Rs 42 - 46 lakhs, according to the recruitment committee.

Out of the corporate recruiters, the most (4) went to Thomson Reuters (presumably via the legal process outsourcing (LPO) unit Pangea3 it had bought). ICICI Bank, Hindustan Petroleum and Wipro hired 2 students each.

Last year, the NUJS recruitment committee had reported 78 students placed out of a batch of 128 (excluding civil services and judicial clerkships).

The top career choice after corporate jobs was the public sector: a grand total of 12 chose to prepare for Civil Services examinations, 5 would prepare for judicial services exams, and 1 has taken a judicial clerkship at the Supreme Court.

A total of 10 students opted for litigation, joining a total of nine law chambers or litigation firms, with the RCC having provided a full breakdown.

Only 5 students opted for LLMs abroad this year, with 3 joining Cambridge, and 1 each going to Oxford and the University of Purdue.

A total of 2 students opted to join non-governmental organisations (NGOs).

The CRC team of 2017 and 2018 comprised of the following students: Aditya Sarmah, Arjun Agarwal, Farhan Shehab Umar, Keshav Pareek (Coordinator), Kshitij Maheshwari, Pranav Rajesh Sethi, Samarth Sharma, Sammanika Rawat, Sankalp Srivastava (Coordinator) and Venkatesh Renganathan.

The RCC said in a statement: “Such an achievement would not have been possible without the incredible efforts of all the CRC members, past and present, and the support of our current faculty advisor Prof (Dr) Anirban Mazumdar along with the previous faculty advisor, Ms. Vaneeta Pattnaik, and all the faculty members and the entire administrative staff at NUJS. We would also like to acknowledge our indebtedness to our alumni network whose fantastic support and guidance ensured these results.”

Full NUJS 2018 final recruitments table

S. No.

Recruiter/Career Avenue

No. of Students Recruited

Domestic Law Firms

1.

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas

16

2.

Khaitan & Co.

8

3.

AZB & Partners

6

4.

Trilegal

5

5.

Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas & Co.

5

6.

L & L Partners

3

7.

IndusLaw

2

8.

Argus Partners

2

9.

Phoenix Legal

1

10.

Lakshmikumaran & Sridharan

1

11.

Singh & Associates

1

12.

BTG Legal

1

13.

P&A Law Offices

1

14.

HSA Advocates

1

15.

Pioneer Law Associates

1

Foreign Law Firms

16.

Allen & Overy LLP

2

17.

Linklaters LLP

2

Corporate/In-House/LPO

18.

ICICI Bank

2

19.

Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Limited

2

20.

Wipro Limited

2

21.

Star India Private Limited

1

22.

AM Sports Law and Management Consultancy

1

23.

International Justice Mission

1

24.

Thomson Reuters

4

25.

Partners for Law in Development

1

26.

Hash Cyber Security Solutions Private Limited

1

Law Chambers/Litigation firms

27.

Chambers of Adv. Mr. Aditya Wadhwa

1

28.

Keystone Partners

1

29.

Chambers of Adv. Mr. Madhav Khurana

1

30.

Chambers of Adv. Mr. Arjun Diwan

1

31.

Menon & Associates

1

32.

Manthan Law

1

33.

L.P. Asthana Excise Consultants

1

34.

Phadke Law

1

35.

Chambers of Adv. Mr. Kotla Harshavardhan

1

36.

Litigation in High Courts/Trial Courts

2

Higher Studies

37.

LLM, University of Cambridge

3

38.

BCL, University of Oxford

1

39.

JD, University of Purdue

1

Alternative Career Avenues

40.

Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs)

2

41.

Judicial Clerkship (Supreme Court)

1

42.

Judicial Examination preparation

5

43.

Civil Services preparation

12

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Like +22 Object -2 Impressive 19 Oct 18, 20:40  interesting  top rated
VCs may do whatever they want, press and media may report whatever they want, but when it comes to a cold market test with hard numbers, the figures speak for themselves. Great going !!
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Like +21 Object -9 Alumnus 19 Oct 18, 23:45  interesting  top rated  controversial
Students. It always comes to the students. Always have. Always will. UGC Ranking, foreign degree holder faculty, AC hostels, acres of land, all have their own places and contributions, but cumulatively, not more than perhaps 10%. Remaining 90 lies with the students and only the students. So long as they remain hungry for success, it will never elude them.
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Like +27 Object -1 nujs1 19 Oct 18, 20:54  interesting  top rated
yet anirban mazumdar and vaneeta patnaik are being hounded by the current administration constantly
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Like +5 Object -17 Noojie 20 Oct 18, 02:02  controversial
I do not intend to belittle the faculty advisors of RCC but can we have some serious data on what exactly has been their significant contributions as distinct from the efforts put in the by the students members of RCC? Also while we can debate about the so-called falling standards of Noojies, evidence suggests that we remain a happy hunting ground for law firms and corporates.

@nujs1 do you mean to suggest that as faculty advisors they are supposed to ration their assistance to RCC? Or are you suggesting that the student members are obligated to help AM and VP cover up the distance education courses mess that they created (and allegedly profited from)? Or other irregularities?

It is true that Lord Taluk and Justice League have sidelined AM and VP. But is it not interesting that despite damning evidence, the various inquiries (six months and counting) have not made any meaningful progress? Most importantly, AM and VP have not been served show cause notices? A detente in the works?
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Like +19 Object -1 Minku 20 Oct 18, 11:01  interesting  top rated
Sorry but there is no "damning evidence". Distance education programs are still on at other law schools (NLS, NLUD, NALSAR). Dr. Rahul Singh of NLS just became a partner at Khaitan so thats a slap on the face of the chimpanzees who complained that VP had "conflict of interest".

The real damning evidence which existed for years and where nothing has been done is 1. Contracts (faculty named as part of criminal conspiracy in judicial report) 2. [...] and [...] (both faculty take no classes year after year) 3. [...] Law and [...] Law (both faculty guilty of 80% plagiarism in their own PHD thesis) 4. Two of the senior professors lying about their qualifications to get jobs in other law schools.

I am not naming anyone so am guessing LI will publish
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Like +20 Object -0 Guest 20 Oct 18, 13:00  interesting  top rated
The only 'mess' that has ever been created in the distance education scenario is by the current administration. A few faculty members jealous of the coordinators of these courses, but unable to create/develop their own, instigated some of the regular students to file complaints (no student who has actually taken the distance courses ever complained) so that on the pretext of inquiries and investigations that will never actually happen or end, the coordinators can be sidelined in the power struggle inside. The only result is that the university is now losing 1 crore plus every year in terms of revenue and having to pay plenty of damages and legal fees in useless litigation. It is obviously coming out of the hike in regular LLB fees. The students have realised that now and even complained to the EC about it, but too little too late.
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Like +4 Object -7 Noojie 21 Oct 18, 02:14
Responding to Minku and Guest. Although the names have been blanked out, it is not hard to guess. I totally agree that action should have also been directed against those faculty members.

We all received (don't know how many read it though) an email which had relevant portions of the PN Sinha Report highlighted to show us how a presently high-flying faculty member actively aided in the destruction and loss of vital evidence against a former Registrar. It is rumoured that she along with her friends (who were also the DWs in the PN Sinha inquiry) are now working furiously in collaboration with the VC and AG to have him reinstated.

DEAR, I am pretty sure we have more than rather particular instances of plagiarism . [...] himself was the high priest in this dark art and this VC doesn't bother. The latter also has larger [...] to commit. Now that we have Potter law elective, we may have a short film or skit on Lord Taluk which would be inspired by the Crimes of Grindelwald.

On the issue of classes. Why bother when someone dear to the VC calls in sick only to sashay away in [...]; returns when [...] wants to and then [...] about students going rogue. That's how things are and will likely be till this VC stays.

However if you have some evidence against the Injustice League, the [...] will help. Your academic performance will also improve. Yes, there is a certain deliberateness in [...] and [...] being sidelined or whoever the Justice League does not like but that should not dilute the evidence against [...] and [...].

I don't know if we are all reading the same pieces of paper. The SJA petitions clearly show that NUJS repeatedly and deliberately flouted UGC rules governing distance and online education courses. You and I may agree that UGC regulations are cumbersome, pedantic et al. But those are the rules and accepted by the courts. And [...] took things even further with Effulgent. [...] sat in all those AC and EC meetings that approved these courses based on the misleading advice prepared
by PIB, [...], [...] and others. [...] continued this illegality as the head of SDME. No wonder that the Registrar has now put up a notice on the university website that [...] is the point of contact and response for all matters relating to online and distance education courses. What does surprise is what took the university so long to do this after AC and EC decisions on 10th and 12th of May 2018?

The EC wouldn't have taken the steps it did had the evidence not been damning. However, the litigation and inquiry pickles are due to the VC and his advisors. As many suggest maybe the mess is deliberate so that good candidates don't apply for VC and Registrar positions at NUJS. That brightens the chances for certain politically useful people.

While PIB and his mafia had their own reasons to keep this distance education scam going what I don't get is the extreme reluctance of Lord Taluk to swiftly conclude the inquiries and take action. At least I thought that is why he was being installed by the EC so that an impartial inquiry will be undertaken and to ensure that it will not meet the fate of PN Sinha inquiry report.

You are also right that we have all realised belatedly that our ever increasing fees are subsidising the gaping holes in university finances and this will happily continue unless we do something about it. Because the only people who can help us are us.

Why wait for the SJA to go through the motions of GB meeting, petitions et al? Why don't we all start bombarding the office bearers with emails and calls for answers. Unlike many, I am not all preach. I only hope others will join, anonymously or otherwise, to demand answers from Lord Taluk and SJA. The latter is our reflection. If we seek better performance from SJA we need to be stronger, sharper and united.
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Like +10 Object -0 Not an LI subscriber 19 Oct 18, 21:01  interesting
"Last year, the NUJS recruitment committee had reported 78 students placed out of a batch of 128 (though notably those numbers excluded chambers, litigation firms, *civil services and judicial clerkships*)."

@Kian The above number (84) does not include those sitting for civil services and judicial clerkships. Please clarify.
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Like +0 Object -1 kianganz 19 Oct 18, 21:21 LI subscriber
Thank you, you are correct. Have clarified the story to reflect that.
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Like +8 Object -0 NALSARAlumni 19 Oct 18, 21:52  interesting
I think NUJS is doing pretty good job with placements. Real competition will be for 2020 BATCH where both batches of Nalsar and NUJS have 120+ students
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Like +20 Object -6 Kids 19 Oct 18, 22:10  interesting  top rated  controversial
Wonder what nuisance will they create at their new work places. Will they protest against family run law firm administration?
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Like +11 Object -0 Guest 20 Oct 18, 12:02  interesting
Won't that change the face of Indian law firms for the better!
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Like +2 Object -3 No 21 Oct 18, 13:58
They will be asked to leave. Sorry kiddo.
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Like +2 Object -0 Guest 21 Oct 18, 19:39
Every change for the better faces obstacles and hurdles.
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Like +0 Object -0 SSAA 29 Oct 18, 16:54
This sound interesting.
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Like +2 Object -0 Camll 19 Oct 18, 23:35
What luthra was once for nluj, CAM is now for NUJS. They made 20 offers for the 2019 batch.
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Like +7 Object -0 Guest 20 Oct 18, 08:54  interesting
AZB made more or comparable offers for the 2019 batch I think.
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Like +1 Object -1 Observer 20 Oct 18, 12:16
Not really CAM in 2017 picked up 17 students from GNLU. And every year on an average they pick up 10-15 students from GNLU alone. So,I think GNLU is still favourite place for them to recruit.
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Like +0 Object -1 Family affair 22 Oct 18, 01:08
No surprises there. Also,wondering which office of CAM, they mostly get placed woth?
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Like +1 Object -0 Guest 20 Oct 18, 00:14
Kian please do a comparative table of placements else NIRF will be fed with fake news once again.
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Like +7 Object -31 YOLO 20 Oct 18, 00:18  troll?  controversial
NUJS is still no 4 despite this, as ranking deals with overall factors, including infra, faculty and research output. Please remember.
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Like +11 Object -2 Guest 20 Oct 18, 09:00  interesting
You keep harping about ranking if it warms the cockles of your heart. It's not a competition between law schools in the real world, no matter how much you people make it thus in the comments here. People are getting good jobs, which majority come to law schools for and that's that. Faculty quality isn't determined by their degrees and publications only, but how well they actually prepare students. That way all the top tier law schools stand on comparable platforms. Average grads from nowhere stand ahead despite whatever the credentials of their faculty may be.
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Like +5 Object -1 Guest 20 Oct 18, 09:10
You are a deluded fool. Please remember.
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Like +12 Object -12 brmana 20 Oct 18, 00:22  controversial
Statistics are misleading since there is double counting of offers. Some students got multiple offers. The effective number is 70 offers out of 116. Taking the "litigation" jobs out, the placement is about 60 with bizarre employers like Hash Cyber Security Solutions.

This is old news from the tenure of PIB as VC. After all this the SJA still targeted professors Vaneeta Patnaik and Anirban Mazumdar in their non-stop complaints to the EC. After the complaints VP was removed as RCC coordinator and AM's distance courses were all stopped. So either theres a lot of ungratefulness or theres some big-time hypocrisy gong on.
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Like +5 Object -4 Guest 20 Oct 18, 09:01
By that logic, why count 116? A lot of students among those never opted for CRC recruitment at all.
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Like +16 Object -4 Guest 2 20 Oct 18, 09:03  interesting  top rated
I hope that you should have gone through the news article carefully. It clearly states "Students Recruited". There is difference between "Job Offers" and "Students Recruited". Don't be pessimistic and jealous with the placement record of NUJS.
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Like +11 Object -4 Guest 20 Oct 18, 09:10  interesting
There is no double counting here. The number is that of offers accepted, not made.
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Like +0 Object -0 Query 20 Oct 18, 01:40
Congratulations. Small error by the RCC. International Justice Mission (IJM) and Partners in Law & Development (PLD) are both NGOs. They are listed under "Corporate/In-House/LPO". So I am not sure if the other two students who chose NGO as their career pathway are in addition to the IJM and PLD recruits?

By the way it will be interesting to know why nos. 40-43 are clubbed as "alternate" beyond the simplistic but facile reason that few law undergrads go for these options. Also do the RCCs in NUJS and other NLUs devote attention evenly to students who seek conventional and non-traditional career pathways - both at the level of student and faculty members of RCC?

Kian, why don't you pursue these questions for an insightful story?
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Like +7 Object -18 Guest 20 Oct 18, 02:30  controversial
The placements look good because NLSIU and NALSAR students turned down these jobs for prestigious LLM scholarships abroad. Note that in contrast only 2 people here are doing LLMs and one is doing a JD at a university which is not in the top tier. The university with the best placements is always one where everything is well spread out, be it law firm jobs, clerkships and LLMs.
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Like +15 Object -6 Guest 20 Oct 18, 09:09  interesting  controversial
Ooh, turned down jobs, did they now? Told off the nasty law firms what they can do with their money and warned them off campus? How many students from NLSIU and NALSAR have got full LLM scholarships at tier 1 law schools abroad? 80? More like 10 together. So your logic is as full of holes as your brain. If any student from those two places actually got a job and then turned it down (that's what turning down actually means), then those jobs are reflected in their CRC stats too. You are the sort who just can't bear to see other people doing good. People like you are of course a plenty both at law firms and law schools these days, more is the pity.
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Like +22 Object -0 Guest 20 Oct 18, 03:14  interesting  top rated
If this is how NUJS does with one of the worst VCs, one can only imagine what will happen if a good VC takes charge.
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Like +2 Object -8 Request 20 Oct 18, 04:20
Friends, please do not make any claims about being No 1 in placement ranking unless the stats of the top 10 law schools are objectively and truthfully compared. Bar & Bench is doing it and the report will be out in the next week. Until then, please maintain silence.
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Like +4 Object -8 NOOJie 20 Oct 18, 10:06
NUJS has always been one of the top 3 Law schools, haters have always questioned its credibility. Yes infra and faculty can make a difference like in case of JGLS, which I think is one of the top 5 law schools of the country but these cannot make a difference when the student quality is great. We have students with great minds while JGLS has top 50 people(who are on scholarships) who have the dedication and IQ to make it. While NIRF rankings takes infra and faculty as factors it ignores student quality which is fundamental to a great educational institution
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Like +3 Object -2 Guest 20 Oct 18, 15:19
Jindal PR at work.
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Like +5 Object -15 Aguest 20 Oct 18, 18:02  controversial
NUJS used to be one of the top 3 law schools. Right now it is either rank 4 or 5 depending on who you ask and thats because the competition is behind. If the things remain it will be sliding to rank 7-8 and settling there in a few years. Getting a hypothetical CAM offer after 5 years is not worth the ragging, eve-teasing, sexual harassment and drugs that goes on inside the campus or the deplorable conditions in the hostels. The opportunities at Kolkata are quite bad and research is literally nil. It may be a student-run university but nobody wants to attend a student-run university. Right now NUJS is like a rural college in a naxal area.
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Like +10 Object -1 Guest 21 Oct 18, 01:28  interesting
The drugs, abuse, harassment and everything you spoke of are there in every single NLU at present unfortunately. Maybe you want to keep it quiet about the real scene, which is what NLUD kept trying till its students came forward. At NLSIU and NALSAR too, the scene is the same. Not sure what you meant by opportunities at Kolkata, because nowhere does it say that students of NUJS will have to limit themselves to within the city. That's primitive and provincial thinking. As for research, opportunities are there for those who actually look for them. How many CAM offers have you got, hypothetical or otherwise? Rural college in Naxal area, lol. Looks like you are consuming too much of the weed you sell. Keep burning. It's fun to watch people like you squirm whenever actual data about achievements is published.
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Like +17 Object -0 Yo 20 Oct 18, 19:08  interesting  top rated
THE BEST PLACEMENTS IN INDIA. PERIOD.
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Like +0 Object -0 NLUite 20 Oct 18, 23:58
Kian bhai MPL wapaas lao. Law school is boring without it :,(
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Like +1 Object -6 Guest 21 Oct 18, 01:38
I will only believe these figures if a reputed national media house clarifies it. How come not a single national paper like Hindu, TOI, Mint etc has not conformed it???
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Like +4 Object -0 Guest1 21 Oct 18, 13:46
On the contrary, I look at data coming from these "reputed national media houses" as most unreliable. Lets have a look at the rankings released by the likes of India Today etc.
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Like +4 Object -2 Guest 21 Oct 18, 03:06
despite this ppl will still choose nalsar, even though nalsar is pretty far from the city centre while nujs has good places around it and in a good location. answer: infrastructure, admin and faculty are just as important in law schools selections/rankings.
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Like +6 Object -0 Guest 21 Oct 18, 13:46  interesting
@18.1: I would agree with you partially, as in I would say infra, admin and faculty are important factors for two places with comparative placements. NALSAR's placements are more or less on the same lines as NUJS at present, hence given its other advantages like better infra and admin, people will prefer it. NALSAR faculty did not use to be extraordinary either, but the present admin has taken a long-term plan and are investing or has invested into young, promising people like Sid Chauhan and even more importantly, are ALWAYS on the lookout for new talent along with retaining the existing ones. As opposed to NUJS admin and students who feel UGC rules should be given priority and hence end up getting sub-standard people mostly barring rare exceptions. It's the policy and attitude more than anything else that set the two places apart for now. I am not from NALSAR or NUJS, but have plenty of friends at both places to get this feel about the two.
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Like +3 Object -8 All lies 21 Oct 18, 03:12
This is 100% fake news and lies spread by NUJS. Purdue University does not have a law school. It runs a distance learning online university called Purdue University Global, ,which runs an online law school called Concord Law School. The degrees from there are not accredited and are unrecognised. So it should no be Purdue University but "Concord Law School (online distance learning)"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Law_School
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Like +8 Object -1 Guest 21 Oct 18, 14:04  interesting
One also has to consider another factor while discussing the relatively lower number of NUJS graduates opting for higher education straight from campus. Compared to a place like say, NLSIU, the fees charged by NUJS are almost twice if not more. It also puts a huge financial burden on a lot of students and makes it difficult for them to refuse lucrative law firm job offers, at least immediately on graduation. However, if you look into the number of students who get accepted every year at the top global law schools, you will find a decent representation of NUJS alumni there, right alongside NLSIU and others, most of whom have worked for a year or two to get on sounder financial footing before opting for further studies. Last year itself, as many as 6 NUJS grads were there in the Harvard LLM batch only. This is why numbers like this will not represent the whole picture, because stats like the one I referred to aren't actually collected by law schools.
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Like +1 Object -7 XXXXXXXXX 21 Oct 18, 19:09
Very good point. Will hurt NUJS in the long run. Fewer alumni in US law firms, international organisations and in top universities as professors.
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Like +7 Object -1 Guest 22 Oct 18, 00:10  interesting
How exactly will what has been stated in comment 20 hurt NUJS? All that's happening is that students are opting for higher studies a bit later than straight out of campus, instead gaining a couple of years' valuable on the job experience. You seem to belong to that select group of commentators who recently just keep trolling every NUJS related post no matter what the content!
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Like +9 Object -1 Guest 22 Oct 18, 00:11  interesting
Barring NLSIU, there is no other NLU that is distinctly ahead of NUJS on those metrics.
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 22 Oct 18, 13:38
Any updates on the new VC? NKC?
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 22 Oct 18, 15:25
Not going to be announced anytime soon.
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Like +2 Object -0 haha 23 Oct 18, 19:28
How much do firms like P&A law offices pay ?
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 23 Oct 18, 20:53
Gave an offer of 12.5 lakh p.a. back in 2013 to a fresher in front of me, which came as quite a surprise to a lot of people including the offeree. Not sure about the state right now. Should have increased only, no?
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Like +0 Object -0 SAM Guy 28 Oct 18, 18:21
P&A??
Badhiya hai...
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