Was the 15k offer from ABA Law Offices lol? They have a very detailed and comprehensive selection process, I thought they'd be paying decently until they tell me their budget is 15k 🤡

Tbh, internships can be uncertain, there's no guarantee they'll convert into jobs. My plan is to spend a year at a litigation chamber and then make a switch.

MNLU Nagpur is better than Mumbai, I would say. The only benefit with Mumbai is that of Internships, and for internships you need breaks, that NLU Nagpur students also gets.

MNLU-M ppl can intern only during breaks, and same goes for every other NLU, so you can't say that we have location advantage. (Offcourse 75% Attendance)

Then comes the Infrastructure, you guys are just in a MTNL Building. Come to MNLU Nagpur. They have atleast permanent campus, and hostels within the campus itself. Campus is far better than of MNLU-M.

And before saying and comparing 400 Rank and 1500. Just calm yourself, what are you jealous of so much. It's pure jealousy mann.

Just 2 hours of CLAT paper can't decide everything. Look at the records of MNLU Nagpur.

Corporate is not everything come on, MNLU Nagpur started 3 batches. Even BALLB (Hons. I Adjudication and Justicing) batch, an unique batch in itself. So, in this aspect too, MNLU Nagpur is far better than Mumbai.

And first and foremost, MNLU has no branches and anything. All three are independent in themselves.

Hey guys, I am an aspiring lawyer with previous internship experiences in Insolvency. Because of this I have had a keen interest in going into a financial institution to experience how the legal department of a financial institution works. Financial institutions like JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, Indian banks and more.

I am not very sure how to enter into this realm as what I have noticed is they reject for not having enough experience.

Anyone here has any suggestions as to how to get started?

I am a 4th-year student in a t2 nlu. I have been trying to get an internship at Trilegal for 1 year. I have a good CV (including callbacks at some t1 firms). I have tried mailing HR, filling out the form, and texting people on LinkedIn. Did everything I could, but couldn't get through. At the same time, I have seen people with CVs half as good getting in. Can anyone tell me how things work here and how can I get in?

Exactly. As a student that needs the assistance, it's entirely on the student to follow up, more than once if required. Extremely urgent things coming up is a rarity, and in no way justifies not getting back later and apologising. Also, for anyone wanting to pursue law, they might as well get used to Sunday evening being a proper time for calls. If I need assistance from someone senior, I will make every effort to adjust as per the time they give, I still do. It's not a choice.

Well, many Symbi students would have made it to the top 5 NLUs had there been no reservation, because their CLAT scores fall in that tier. Also, many tier 2/tier 3 NLU students have CLAT scores lower than Symbi students, as many Symbi students chose Symbi over tier 2/tier 3 NLUs because of locational preference (Pune over Patna, Ranchi, Tricky, Shimla, Sonepat etc).

Thus, the answer to the question is YES. Symbi students can very much compete.

I'm a final year student joining SAM this year. Please give some leads on their rotation policy, is their random allotment or are we asked to pick a pool of preferences for practice areas out of which allotment is made? How does rotation broadly work? What is the duration and how is final team allotment made?

President Droupadi Murmu on Monday emphasised the necessity to reflect on the absence of any educational institution from India, a nation with the world's oldest knowledge tradition, among the top 50 in the world.

During her address at the 69th convocation of IIT Kharagpur, Murmu stressed the need for good education over rankings but acknowledged that a good ranking not only attracts students and faculty worldwide but also enhances the country's reputation.

"Not even a single educational institution of such a vast country with the world's oldest knowledge tradition is among the top 50 educational institutions of the world. We need to think about it. The race for ranking is not more important than a good education. But good ranking not only attracts students and good faculty from all over the world but also enhances the reputation of the country,” she said.

https://www.ptinews.com/history-details/Not-a-single-Indian-educational-institution-among-world-s-top-50--need-to-think-over-it--President/298027

If you manage to solidify your position among the best performers of your batch then surely. Same goes for jindal, t3 and t2 NLUs. If you carry enough confidence and passion then go for it. Even if you are unable to score a good enough rank in clat next year, you will still have something to work with. Just invest your time in symbi wisely, know when to focus on what's being taught and when to focus on clat related stuff. For now, just focus on SLAT.

Are you Moses or something? Keh doge toh hum sab messiah bol ke maan lenge? Ashoka is the only university in the country which hires people with foreign postdocs from top institutions, not even foreign PhDs. Not like Jindal who hires LL.M. graduates with no experience. If you see the faculty recruitment notifications and the profile of faculties, you will know. NLUs do not even come close by ten thousand miles.

I am from one of the SLS. And my answer is – yes. We can compete with them in competitions, etc. and win over them. But in terms of access to opportunities, brand value, etc. – we will always lose out. Why? Because the stigma of the "NLU" tag will unfortunately never go away. No matter how much you achieve as a Non-NLU kid, it will never be enough. That's what I have come to understand. Better to be in an NLU. Or, if you can afford, go to JGLS without any doubt. The opportunities you get there + the brand value = all are unparalleled.

Hello, i wrote the clat exam recently, unfortunately I couldn't crack it, so naturally my next option is symbiosis, but I'm not sure if should go there or take a drop year and write clat next year

Many people have advised me to do a partial drop as clat is very unpredictable, so in the worst case scenario i stay in symbiosis, will I be able to compete with NLU students in terms of internship/placement and overall academic and work progression

Does nobody else find it a bit concerning that these awards that are handed out to lawyers, like 40 under 40, etc. have the same law firm to which these lawyers belong, as sponsors or the law firm MP being a jury member. If not that, it would often involve the jury member from the Firm giving the award to a client to keep them happy. A bit of conflict of interest?

That's why these awards will probably never match up to the kinds of Chambers, IBLJ, etc, which are comparatively more objective.

I would actually suggest that you intern with the BJP/Congress/AAP legal cell, rather than a random advocate who takes you at the last moment. This will stand out more when a recruiter sees your CV. You can say that you wanted to do something socially relevant and you wanted to understand how politics works in India prior to the 2024 elections. You may also be able to meet senior lawyers who handle cases for these legal cells.

Remember also that the legal cells of both parties will be very busy and have lots of work now, so you won't be sitting idle. We are just 90 days away from elections and there will be lots of criminal law work being handled by both parties.

Ashoka and Jindal have been set up by the wealthiest people in the country and are attended by children of the wealthiest people in the country. So they'll obviously attract funding. Also, Ashoka and Jindal are just 2 private universities and are exceptions. The bulk of private universities are like Amity, Sharda, Galgotia, Lovely Professional etc. These places are not at all prestigious and are poorly regarded. They have been set up by barely literate, nouveau riche businessmen who lack the standing of the Jindal and Ashoka founders. Such colleges also do not have faculty with good qualifications or tie-ups with top universities abroad. They work as degree mills for students from tier 2/tier 3 cities who lack grades but have money.

So it's very unfair to cherry-pick Jindal and Ashoka and say that they are better than NLUs. Why don't you compare Amity with NLSIU, Sharda with NLUD, Galgotia with NALSAR etc?

heavily cv based. They can also ask the current subjects being taught to you and might ask some questions on those subjects. Nothing really out of the box. Bonus- know the exact kinda work your team does, the agreements they work on and get a thorough understanding of these definitive agreements.

If you decide to give up your job to prepare for judiciary, please make sure you appear in court at least once in a week. Make sure your name appears in vakalatnama and order sheets. You should have evidence of practicing law in the event you aren't able to clear the exam. Will help in profession later.

It has been very good for me.

Sane and non-toxic work environment.

Good salary and benefits, as well as bonuses.

30 days leave which we are encouraged to take.

Sure I might not be earning as much as the top earners in a desi law firm, but I get home at a good hour and get to spend time with wife and kids. I avoided mid career burn out by moving here.

Also quality of life is great. There is less to no crime, there is no shortage of things to do.

Hi I am someone who have been in the process of judiciary exams for long now . Trust me competition is damn high and there is fair share of corruption in appointments . I dont want to take name of Justices and HCs but even DJS is rigged ! Let alone MP , CG , JH , Haryana .

Preparing with a job is possible only if you are doing 9-5 . Litigation and law firm is 9-9 atleast ! That will leave you physically exhausted .

Word of Wisdom - You cant have bird in both hands. Kuch na kuch ssacrifice karna hi padega and then be courageous to bear the outcome.

Utterly unfortunate that electives by good professors who demand hardwork and mark as per merit have been scrapped due to lack of more than 10 students. These include electives of International Aviation Law by Dr Sandeepa Bhat, advisor to National Space Policy and International Civil Aviation Organisation; Sports Law by Lovely Das Gupta (only professor to teach the subject at NUJS), Corporate Tax by Sanjay Kumar (expert in taxation who teaches really well); Third World Approach to International Law by Vijay Kishore Tiwari; Water Law by Arup Poddar, Nanotechnology law by Mouri Ghosh.

Shame on students for opting for scam electives and getting E without any studying.

NUJS needs a thorough review.

Bro, don't confuse raising revenues with superior academic performance. Jindal got over 1,000 crores from the Jindal family in the past few years and another 900 crores by selling property rights to hostel buildings and facilities to a Goldman Sachs entity. Yet, Jindal is widely acknowledged to rank 8th in the country in terms of student placements and no higher (after NLSIU, NALSAR, NLUD, NUJS, GNLU, NLUJ and NLIU).

NLU grads expose their parochial mindset by making comparisons here and there. You might say that Ashoka is above NLUs. But the depravity has started with this very thread when you got into this little skirmish of comparing Ashoka with others. So yeah, Ashoka is as shitty as NLUs.

Ashoka Uni receives ₹250 crore grant.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/education/ashoka-university-gets-250cr-grant-from-harish-bina-shah-foundation/articleshow/106102747.cms

For all the juvenile toxic rhetoric we see on this platform about state NLUs (more so about the so-called Tier 1), there is not a single state NLU that comes even close. And I am not even comparing with the likes of IISc and IIT-B. As a private university, Ashoka is outperforming all state NLUs. Sorry state of affairs - all this hype about the Rhodes scholarship, international moots, CAM, SAM, AZB, Trilegal, etc. is zilch.

You are not a mason who must get paid for every extra 15 minutes you work. You are a tier 1 Corp lawyer. Behave like one. It’s because of the salaries they offer that you are able to book a stay in 5 star hotels and fly to any part of the world for vacations without thinking twice. Look at your school friends who are into engineering and medicine. They will think 100 times before spending the kind of money you do. They will still drink teachers but you wouldn’t think twice before opening a bottle of a 18 YO glen.

So keep your head down, be thankful to god and work hard.

As an international relations expert, I should represent facts, & the facts say that it's fine to blame both sides, at the same time have sympathy for both sides. You don't need to pick a side, this is not the EPL or IPL , that one team has to win ! Have sympathy for the civilians caught in between, blame governments and terrorists organisations, not the whole damn country. Stop generalising, i.e. all Israeli/all Palestinians are bad/good guys.

Perfectly said. People just want to pose as experts without actually doing the hard work, i.e to research. They watch 10 minute YouTube videos that summarise the situation and they think they're experts. This is happening not only with the general public, but even with news reporters and influencers. People don't realise how sensitive yet complicated the situation is, especially for civilian population for either side. It's like you have to chose a side, no you can't be neutral, no you can't be logically and stay neutral untill you research..blah blah blah

Kolkata is the safest city, for the third time in a row.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/kolkata-declared-safest-city-in-india-for-3rd-consecutive-year-national-crime-records-bureau-report-4635370

No chance. Just go through their LinkedIn page's current and past interns. Very few. Only 1-3 current interns. When their office, I am sure, requires more, considering their scale of deals and operations. But, note how most of the associates are from A0-A2/A3.

About the pay – I'm not sure. I heard that it is a sham too, and just on paper. Apparently, they have a loophole or something. There is a thread on pay regarding this. Just check it out elsewhere on LI. You will find it.

Please give your firm name, so the US firms can be made aware of your firm's stance on the issue. And your statement about US firms is batshit crazy, completely ignorant of US history and law firms. You likely couldn't tell the ethnic difference between, say, Skadden and Wilmer Hale.

From ba LLB - only beneficial if done from top clgs,

For LLB, no use use whatsoever since it's an antiquated version of law which existed before the integrated degree came out.

Though I feel LLB is better since it gives u the room to intern more due to flexible schedule

SA (1,2,3) - Anywhere between 30 lakhs to 45/50 lakhs (including bonuses)

MA (1,2,3) - Anywhere between 45 - 60/65 lakhs (including bonuses)

Mumbai is solid for Banking and Capital Markets and is known for its jolly and inclusive environment. On the other hand, Delhi is solid for M&A, Antitrust and Projects; and pays 15% more than mumbai with a terrible culture.

Delhi office is prettier but Mumbai has better coffee:)))

A0 - 14L fixed, 2 - 4L variable (think they have hiked this, not sure*)

A1 - 16L fixed, 4 - 6L variable

A2 - 19L fixed, 6 - 8L variable

A3 - 22L fixed, 8 - 10L variable

SA1 - 25L fixed, 10 - 12L variable

SA2 - 28L fixed, 12 - 14L variable

SA3 - 32L fixed, 14 - 16L variable

SA4 - 35L fixed, 16 - 18L variable

MA1 - 44L fixed, 20 - 25L variable

MA2 - 52L fixed, 20 - 25L variable

MA3 - 60L fixed, 20 - 25L variable

These are Mumbai figures but Delhi bills higher at TT&A since GS is seated with all the rainmakers at that side of the turf. Think they keep you hanging at MA since its a glorified Counsel/Junior Partner role; the firm expects you to run the deal being an MA i.e. open any deal on LinkedIn and you will see that the involvement of an MA is more than that of the Associate. That being said, TT&A's culture is something to look forward to with very complex deals, Ex Foreign BigLaw partners and one of the most polished talent pools that there can exist in the Indian market.

I can't speak for all Sr Advs, but I interned under one of the top lawyers in the country. Smartest man I have ever known. Chamber was smaller than I expected but it was completely filled with books. Now I have seen a few chambers and the collection of books they have, but I am not joking when I tell you that each and every one of the 1000+ books had been read. There were biographies, commentaries, manuals, and books about contemporary topics (LGBTQ, AI, privacy, etc) and each one of them had underlinings and corresponding notes.

In fact, during a meeting, when a particular point of law was questioned, he asked me to get a specific SCC volume and even knew the exact page number where the question of law was answered in the positive. It took me a while to come to terms with how knowledgeable and well-read the man was. It was simply inhuman.

AIR and ITR journals for multiple years were falling apart because of extensive use. Usually, seniors buy SCC or AIR manuals for multiple years but rarely ever use them. They serve as a good background for a Zoom call. However, for the first time, every single book had highlights, underlinings, bookmarks, and flags.

And the reading never stopped. Every couple of weeks, either an author would send him a copy of their latest book/commentary, or his friend, who was a bookstore owner would show up at the chambers with the latest books. Books about history, politics, economics, and everything under the sun. He would slowly but surely make time to read them all, despite how busy he was.

Really gave me some perspective about how much effort it takes to reach the top. I am an avid reader myself, but I can never imagine coming even close to that man. It was inspiring and intimidating at the same time. I wish I reach that level someday, but as of now, it is a distant dream.

You think if israel with its military power wanted to raze gaza and west bank to the ground tomorrow they couldnt? Theyd have it done in a half a day. The only reason that there are palestinians alive is because israelis care about life. and the only reason that palestinians are at risk is because hamas doesnt care about them at all. How much propaganda have you bought to not be able to see that?