Kudos for the interesting question!

From a statistical perspective, the average rank for the top 10 admitted students for the BA LLB course is 342, whereas for the BSc LLB Cybersecurity, it is around 743. For context, the closest such average for any other NLU is that of NLUO, which is around 671. So, we can say that, at least statistically, BSc LLB Cybersecurity at NLIU Bhopal is considered to be close to BA LLB at NLUO by students this year.

Hope this helps!

For some people our pets are our family, this is the most horrendously insensitive comment I have ever read. You don't need to work in a zoo to love animals, that is like saying only hospital staff are capable of liking humans. To grieve for a dear member of our family is a perfectly valid reason to take a leave, whether it is one's mother or one's dog!

I'm currently interning in a chamber of a senior who's from the same native place as me. I got in through contact. All the juniors also share the same hometown and religion. Senior got matters regularly in BHC, Nclt, Arbitration, etc.

He seems chill, leaves office by max 7 if there's an arbitration. Juniors also leave after sir.

This place seems great to be as I wanna go into litigation but confused whether to go to chambers or firms. Help please

In a recent email to students enrolled in the Undergraduate LLB program at JGLS, the institution claimed that "Jindal Global Law School's interdisciplinary research outshines faculty publications by the top 4 NLUs!" However, there was a degree of deception involved, as JGLS sent the press release to ANI, which ANI then syndicated to The Print, whose article was subsequently used by JGLS in the email.

The article (which was actually a press release) asserts that "JGLS researchers published over 175+ publications in a variety of Scopus-indexed sources in 2023, representing an increase of over 25 per cent compared to the previous year and surpassing the total number of similar publications from the top 4 National Law Schools in the country by over 60 per cent." However, doubts have arisen regarding the accuracy of these claims:

1) Is this information accurate? Can JGLS genuinely assist (or as they put it, 'inspire') their researchers to publish in reputable journals?

2) If so, then why are the so-called top NLUs (NLS, NALSAR, NLUD) unable to match JGLS, a relatively newer institution?

3) If not, then why is JGLS resorting to such tactics? Is it driven by desperation, or is JGLS genuinely striving to create a perception that it is superior to all other NLUs?

TL;DR: JGLS claimed superiority in interdisciplinary research over top NLUs based on a press release, it it accurate?

Hi everyone,

I'm reaching out to this community because I am trying to understand how to navigate through what I believe are significant challenges. I feel disillusioned with this field, not because of work conditions, long ass hours or pay but because of the kind of people who generally thrive in this profession. It seems to me that this profession attracts the worst human beings. People are extremely fake, would drag you into their drama, gossip about other individuals and pass value judgements on anyone or everyone. Most of these individuals also come from incredibly privileged families. More importantly most of them never seem to grow out of their law school time and bring in their toxic selves to the work place.

Here's the thing; I come from a middle class family who does not want to engage in office politics, want to live peacefully and gain skills that'll help me progress in this career. All these things become incredibly difficult because you have folks in your work space who would judge you for who you are, make underhanded comments about your competency because you belong to a certain socio-economic status and would not engage in mindless hedonism. Now I know people will say; ignore such people, but when you have to stay with such individuals for 12+ hours, it gets slightly difficult to not get bothered by such individuals. I also understand that dealing with difficult people is very much a part and parcel of becoming a sound professional, but honestly it gets exhausting when 75-80 percent individuals are snarky assholes trying to step on your toes or looking for ways to impede you.

I am really looking for some good advice from people who experienced something similar. What should I do? I'm honestly thinking about leaving this profession altogether because of people like this. I don't think it's that bad in other professions.

Read the following situation and answer the questions based on the same-

Hugo went on a recent trip to Bali where he is on a beginner's yoga retreat. He has got a day off and has decided to go to the nearby market to purchase gifts for his family. He is especially interested to buy an impressive gift for his wife Lyn. In the course of his shopping, he stumbles upon a beautifully finished hand-painted silk shawl which he feels will be the perfect gift for her given its light weight and convenience to carry it with him in the flight. Thereafter, he asks the seller Susilo to quote him a price for the shawl. In response, Susilo compliments him for his excellent taste and assures his that the lady for whom he is purchasing would appreciate it. Further, he quotes the price of the shawl to be $200. He assures Hugo, that it is a 'very good price'.

Hugo ponders for a while and makes a counter offer of $140 but without insulting Susilo in any manner or the product. In response, Susilo begins to detail about the material and its premium quality. Hugo was aware that the material cost for the shawl itself will be more than the offered price as his wife designed and painted silk scarfs as a hobby and to gift it to her friends often on the occassion of thanksgiving.

Susilo then offers Hugo other products and shows him a small, kitsch-woven handbag given he is intending to pay $140. Hugo realising that he may have misjudged the price ignores the handbag offer and instead tells the seller he can give $170 for the scarf and says that's the most he thinks is reasonable given the product.

Susilo shakes his head and says if Hugo could consider paying $190 then he could go ahead with the deal. Further, he says if Hugo can't pay as much, he will consider selling the scarf to someone else later. Hugo offers $180 and says that is the most he is willing to pay. Susilo pauses and reaches out for a handmade card and offers to sell him the scarf along with the card and also wrap the scarf and put the handmade card for free. Susilo says in return of the same I will expect to be paid $185.

In light of the aforesaid situation, answer the following with justification-

1. What should Hugo do? Should he accept or walk away? What would you do if you were Hugo?
2. Who do you think negotiated more effectively? Provide your reasons for the answer.

My friend works at SPL. Purely from what I hear, it is a merit oriented firm. You do well, you get rewarded well. People who have the potential are pushed and allowed to act at par with the founders. Most importantly, you really need to enjoy what do you. As far as work goes, there is no dearth of it. They are working on matters with some of best legal teams across the globe.

On reporting, I cannot really comment much because I am not the corp side.

Not getting a job is better than joining here. A senior partner in Delhi office defrauded the firm lately. The amount of psychological abuse, manipulation, favouritism and general lack of empathy for life is stark in its Mumbai litigation office. Regressive mindset of the people there. Example- Each person is forced to call others as ‘Sir’/ ‘Ma’am’. Avoid. Can’t comment on its Delhi office.

Just read an article stating that Pakistan and other countries have not yet paid their side of the contributions to South Asian University and therefore there's a huge chance it affects the university. I am going for a LLM and later on will pursue my PhD form here, should I be worried about the situation??? Or finish my LLM and move somewhere else for my PhD ?

Graduate from an IIT and pursue law thereafter if the subject interests you. Miss a seat at an IIT now and you will regret your decision for your life. A law degree can be obtained even at the age of 75 and the degree from NALSAR makes the subject no better.

A law degree from a national law school or any other place barely makes you employable across the country as there are three cities with corporate jobs with lawyers. A degree from an IIT makes you employable across the globe.

By the way, why would you want to waste so much of talent on a law degree that barely makes any value addition to the society ?

It is this ability to make genuine difference in the lives of people and witness the gratefulness from the clients...for instance I secured a bail for my clients who were wrongly accused of domestic violence and dowry harrassment and even after months they frequently wish me on festivals and give sweets...to bring harmony and make others lives easier is a joy unparalleled...apart from that litigation gives you practical exposure in just 2-3 years time which can later be compensated with money...wide variety of cases makes professional life more interesting as well and is a continuous learning curve

Lawyers dont understand sales and marketing. In fact, sale and marketing is banned for lawyers, so we will never realise that an entire new world lies beyond our limited bubble of T1 law firms, and litigation chambers.

Think of it this way - if you know a Tier 1 is hiring at 18 LPA, so do 5000 other recent graduates. If you are competing for that spot, you are already screwed. But if you use your creatively to create your own job, then you are the first of a kind. Orry created his own job, Urfi created her own job (clout), however cringe or unsophisticated we may think they are. While we are laughing while sitting in our cubicles, they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Tbh, intern karo, nothing else works.

As a somewhat mid-seniority level lawyer, I can tell you that is the sure shot method of landing jobs.

I wont care what your college is (if you intern in my team) if you:

a. Submit work without me following up with you;

b. Show up on time;

In professional field, no one cares about your college, only your work speaks. NLUs can give you a bump when it comes to landing your first job, but post it, you are on your own.

I also (unfortunately) passed out from SLSN, but I have done decently well in life.

Further, it breaks my heart to see that some of the worst interns that I had ever worked with came from SLS N. Again, when you intern, you are just a face, people will ask your college once and never again; your attitude speaks after that.

Not work, we expect you to not know shit. It is just the right attitude to see whether you are a trainable horse whom we can exploit till you have effectively destroyed your life.

The law firm matters, and the specific partner/ team as much. Here are some. This is from an earlier thread on Legallyindia.

1. Trilegal: Rahul Mathan at the helm ensures a lot of government work but he is less active on client work than before. ‘Statesman’ status. Generally a very well regarded and busy team. Nikhil Narendran, Jyotsna are good partners to work with. Nikhil is particularly focussed on telecom. Jaideep Reddy for fintech/crypto. Team is nice to work in.

2. CAM: Arun Prabhu is good. But the practice is not the same tier as Trilegal.

3. Ikigai: Cutting-edge work in a lot of new areas like AI, metaverse, blockchain. Works with almost all big-tech companies, especially in social media, ecom, cloud, satcom, fintech. Strong data practice too. Anirudh Rastogi is the managing partner, known for emerging tech/blockhain, Nehaa Chaudhari for policy/data, Aparajita Srivastava for fintech. Sreenidhi Srinivasan for data.

4. NDA: old tech and media practice with good clients but several good lawyers have left or are leaving the firm. Better work-life than at other big practices. Works in a lot of new areas of tech like crypto, drones etc. Gowree Gokhale is good for media and gaming. Huzefa for new areas. NDA puts a lot of writing on areas of tech.

5: Indus: It is a gaming and entertainment practice led by Ranjana Adhikari from NDA. Well known partner but in the gaming circles.

6. Spice Route: Key areas are fintech and data. Mathew Chacko heads up both practices in the Bangalore office. Mumbai office doesn’t do as much tech. Do a lot of vc investment work in tech startups too, headed also by Mathew. Senior Associate Aadya Mishra also known for data work.

7. Saraf: Building it out. Too early in the game to comment.

8. SAM: low key but good TMT team with big clients. Sahana Chatterjee does a lot of TMT policy work. Tejas Karia’s team does TMT litigation for large clients, but can be quite routine for the most part.

9. TMT Law Practice: Abhishek Malohotra has an established telecom litigation practice. His team also does gaming and data.

10. Anand & Anand: been building a tmt practice, but still best for IP aspects of TMT.

Good ones who remain at NUJS include Anirban Mazumder, Sandeepa Bhat, Lovely Dasgupta, Shameek Sen, Shouvik Guha, Faisal Fasih, Ruchira Goswami, Atul Alexander. Aman Gupta and Anuradha Roychowdhury among the recently joined.

I have also heard good things about Neha Pathakji at NALSAR and Daniel Mathew, Yogesh Pai and Anup Surendranath at NLUD. NLUD has also recruited a bunch of young people who seemed promising on the few times I have met them in conferences and seminars.

Indemnity bonds??

I very seriously doubt your chops as a lawyer if you think Indemnity Bonds can work on a lawyer.

Hell, simple google will tell you that they are practically unenforceable.

Ruk jaiye, aisi baatein kisi ko shobha nahi deti, log mazaak udaate hain

I don't know about all the specifics of his work, only that involving NLP and law. But he is currently part of the Techlegality global COP on HR and tech, so he may be doing some related work. Even if he is not, he can probably connect you with those who do. Some other people whom you can connect with include Srijoni Sen, who was with NLS till last year, Ameen Jauhar from Vidhi, Arindrajit Basu from CIS, Kazeem from Dialogue.

By whom? Which population did you survey to elicit such laughable claim? NALSAR's whole budget is less than a department of any of the IITs and the positions where the IIT alumni are today in every domain imaginable are far more prestigious and better paid than NALSAR alum. In fact, that holds true for any NLU.

It should be a standard practice of any university head to insist that the final form of any interview taken should be vetted by them/their office before allowing publication. That a senior academic like the NLUO VC was not aware of it or failed to follow it does not bode well for their capability as an administrative head.

Update: VC has claimed that she did not say anything like this to Careers360 and they misunderstood her comments. The impugned para of the interview is now deleted.

Rest assured that even a BTech in metallurgy or agriculture from IIT Dharwad or IIT Ropar has better prospects than a NALSAR grad. STEM graduates in all fields are highly sought after by foreign universities and employers abroad. A STEM degree also betters your chances of cracking the GMAT. And you can still study law by going to NLSIU for the 3 year course and you will get more respect being an engineer.

People need to start looking at these things differently. This post is probably made by a relatively junior person, maybe a student. If so, then just to help you consider a different perspective, blogs should not be compared with each other, individual blogposts should be. One may come across an excellent piece of analysis in a blog that is a newer one, as well as generic info-heavy pieces in a blog that is older. Don't start comparing the blogs in general. If a post has got merit and has been drafted keeping in mind SEO and other factors significant for blogposts, then it would be discussed and referred by people in the industry and academia, which is the hallmark of success for a post.

IIT easily you will be far more employable even with a low gpa with good salary and work life balance, and very positive work place, i heard of a guy who got into samsung korea with 1 crore package and saying those years were the best years of his life, very respectable people and just a very very positive work environment with negligible pressure, whereas in nlu you have to be in top 20 with high GPA and salary is pretty bad, and horrible work life balance and toxic environment

I would question the whole existence of a Marxist student society at Jindal like this Revolutionary Students Group. Jindal is one of the most expensive universities in the country and the students belong to multi-crorepati families. If they really identify with Marxism they should join a government university and abandon personal luxuries like chauffeur-driven Mercs, Louis Vuitton bags, five-star European holidays etc. I don’t see how you can be a Marxist Revolutionary yet lead such a lifestyle.

The whole system is a little exploitative and pointless. 3 years of article clerkship involves long hours for peanuts, self explanatory.

Then there's the exam itself. The pattern is such that you need to simply rote learn lots of sections of acts and case law names. It is not application based or open book. No 'think like a lawyer' skills are involved. Questions are straightforward like: what is the difference between warrantee and guarantee? You need to simply vomit few sections of Contract Act and leading case laws explaining the difference and fill pages. See: https://www.legallyindia.com/grads-bar-exam/bombay-solicitors-past-exam-papers-20131015-4042

They seriously need to overhaul the exam itself. Make it open book and application based. Test the problem solving aptitude of the solicitors not their rote learning skills. At least then the qualification will mean something more than invitation to 'exclusive' events filled with boomers.

As far as joining the firm as an A0 is concerned straight outta college and preferring it over other firms, one of the main overriding factor is their rotation policy which gives a lot of scope to fuck around and find out to the new joinees without actually committing to a team. On top of getting to explore your preferred areas, you can make mistakes and learn from them knowing that you’ll be moving out from the team in 6 months. This I think gives it an edge over other firms even after a less pay.

As a sequitur to this point, you’ll see majority of people leaving after around 18 months once they know they are not getting to freeze their preferred team. However, if you are a good performer with stellar feedback from your past rotations, you’ll basically get to choose the people you have to work with after your last rotation. This in itself is a huge plus which no other firm can offer to new joinees.

They do take non NLUs but it also depends on the work and the team. I am from Kolkata but being non Bengali I feel there's some bias. If you're in Disputes you'll get a lot of work, same goes for Gen Corporate. Rest of the teams I have not seen them giving work. Try getting it converted to a offline internship.

Which t2 NLU though? There are huge differences, for example if it's HNLU/NLUO, take them without any hesitation. They are way better than JGLS. NUALS can also be considered as a last last resort. But if it's something like RGNUL/RML/MMLU-M, please avoid them at all costs and go to JGLS

Far fetched dream.

Only law schools in my knowledge where students receive PPO in good numbers, say 20+ are the following:

NLS

Nalsar

NUJS

NLU Delhi

Jindal

NLU Jodhpur

GNLU

Few PPOs also received by NLIU Bhopal, Symbiosis Pune, GLC Mumbai.

No other law college gets regular PPO. Rare cases possible from DU or ILS or other NLUs.

This is a completely one sided piece meant for gaining political mileage before elections than a serious economics discussion. No wonder people have stopped relying on the data that get released during this government's tenure, everything is politically coloured, the weaknesses and flaws of the current regime are hidden to the extent of coming up with new standards of measure, and the terrible outcome of that is this government that was capable of ushering in long term and viable economic reforms in the country has just refused to do it, because it refuses to accept its own problems and would rather rely upon sycophants than constructive criticism.

No T2 NLU can match Jindal, even remotely. Either in faculty or in facilities.

If fee not an issue or if you get scholarship you must prefer Jindal.

Work hard to be in top 10% of class at Jindal and you will get opportunities better than any NLU.

Dropping a year is the worst idea in legal field.

money is important for basics, you can't be happy if you know you can't pay the rent or afford 3 meals but if it's between doing a job you hate and earning a lot and doing a job you love and earning less it's definitely doing a job you love. you aren't gonna take the money to your grave, doing a job you hate you have to wait for every weekend to spend the money to have a good time but in a job you love the weekdays are just beautiful