hi everyone!

i'm a penultimate year law student, currently doing my research in order to submit my applications for LLM programs at different universities around the world (i am also preparing for CLAT-PG as a back up).

recently, someone mentioned how law firms end up funding your LLMs and i should focus on getting a job first, and get my own LLM entirely funded. i have my fair share of internships, however i don't have a PPO and now i'm considering interning long term or applying to law firms straight out of law school. i was wondering if i could hear out everyone's experiences and get some insight into this possibility. please do tell me what your experience was like. thank you !!!

My college doesn’t rate it in very high regards. They have kept it very low in the list. However, I have seen so many social media reels of this moot happening lately. Who all are participating this time? NLS, NALSAR and NUJS? Is it true that it is one of the most sought after moots in colleges?

That account is a well known bully.

I do not condone whatever the said lawyer tweeted, however at the same time, that is quite fixable with an apology. Now her entire career is f*cked given how in every BG check this is going to come up.

I hope ▮▮▮ doesnt fire that lady.

It's not unknown that anyone who picks up a pen to circle an omr of a CLAT/AILET mock has only one dream: to make it to one of the top 6 NLUs through CLAT or NLUD through AILET. If an aspirant is enrolled in a coaching program, the coaching program does everything in its power to make students believe that every problem, from insomnia to a breakup, from malnutrition to obesity, will be sorted out once they make it to the 'golden' law school. Almost 85% have no idea while preparing for CLAT about the hardships of a law school.

When I was preparing for CLAT, I knew that this was just a stepping stone and not the whole platform itself. I only treated CLAT as an entry pass to a law school, and I knew once I reached a college, I would have to work my way upwards. However, this isn't the case with everyone, and most people keep daydreaming during their preparation days.

This isn't your which X NLU is the best debate. I want to know from my fellow people from NLSIU, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUD, NLIU, NLUJ, and GNLU what their perspective was of a law school while preparing for CLAT and how it changed and what reality struck them after making it to the X NLU. How are you doing now at your college and what are your future endeavours?

You said it perfectly, what the fuck is the need for "royalty" in government services and that too in a democratic set up. White sahabs have been replaced by brown sahabs. While the actual white sahabs in UK, US and Canada go to work on cycles. See Obama he is retired and moves along without any pomp and show. But in India Britishers have left a legacy of royalty that will be hard to remove now. You know the entire craze about certain govt jobs? It is only beacause of this royalty. Remove the VIP treatment and no one will sit for these exams.

Generally for dating these are the major factors - Looks, Height, Finances, Personality, Sense of Humour, Confidence. In the same order, without looks the next step is not considered, also women have their own standards in looks, for some an average face may clear the criteria, then next step is seen.

apne kaam se kaam kar rakh tu bhai.

he's the CJI, he doesnt draw a large salary for the amount of work he puts in, a mercedes is the least he can be provided with, its about comfort and standard of living. not everything has to be looked at with the eye of jealousy, there needs to be some honour and luxury attached to the highest judicial office in the country.

One of the biggest problems/stigmas in India is that dark skin = lower caste. Cuts across all religions. A Christian classmate of mine mocked a dark-skinned Kshatriya girl by making an extremely offensive joke about her actual parentage. He made the remark in the boy's hostel, as part of typical "guy's talk", but it shows the toxic mentality.

Earlier only girls faced the brunt, but now even fair-skinned guys are valued as trophies and dark-skinned guys looked down upon, as one of the comments here says. Maybe it's because of Bollywood. SRK lightens his skin and light-skinned Punjabi actors are promoted.

PS: Sorry for the rant

Since the release of the CLAT first list, I have been reading up on NLSIU on this forum, and I cannot help but feel scared. I have been reading posts ( like https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/309689-why-hasnt-nlsiu-released-their-placement-stats-for-over-half-a-decade-now%20 , https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/272682-why-was-nlsiu-day-zero-a-flop-show-or-was-it%20, https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/282300-nlsiu-a-jindal-in-the-making%20 etc ) , and I'm feeling extremely nervous.

Will joining NLSIU be a good choice for me, or am I gambling away my future? The problem for me is that I did poorly on AILET, so NLUD is not an option. I did quite well on the LSAT and have received a 50% scholarship for Jindal, but my parents are totally discounting JGLS and won't let me join it.

I think the moot question is whether joining NLSIU is a good option?

This was a reality check for me. The guy is in his early thirties, which is considered young in the legal profession. He is not a nepo kid and from a regular middle class family. I have seen CAM and SAM Mumbai partners even in their 40s who still drive a Honda City and wear a Tissot. Does this mean that court practice is more lucrative?? Also, does living in a tier 2 city save a lot on rent? I mean, it can’t be that huge a difference??

I don't think there's any doubt that IIM A/B/C/ are bigger brands than NLUs, including NLSIU. Their alumni list is just awesome. IIM I/L/K are also much ahead of NLUs, although maybe not NLSIU.

But what about ISB??? In terms of age, ISB is much younger than NLSIU and about the same age as some other NLUs. But can an ISB brand be considered more prestigious than an NLU brand -- even NLSIU?? Does an ISB degree lead to better job prospects and pay? Or is it worth it only if you are from lower ranked NLUs, i.e. NALSAR/NUJS/NLUD/GNLU and below, like NLUJ, NLIU, RGNUL, HNLU, Shimla, Patna etc? Or is NALSAR considered more prestigious than ISB now?

Honestly, the NLSIU alumni list looks so much more impressive than the ISB alumni list. NLSIU has produced a QC, ASG, judges, Senior Advocates, partners at US an UK firms, IFS/IAS/IPS officers, professors at Oxford and Ivy League law schools etc. In comparison, the only famous ISB alum seems to be Aman Gupta of Boat. Rest are just random corporate executives at various companies. Even Aman Gupta seems a bit of a douchebag tbh. Always saying dumb things on Shark Tank and in one pitch for a book company he said he doesn't read books. .. imagine! 😒

And if you don’t share your Facebook/X/Instagram id they can easily track it down and see what you’ve been posting?

Hopefully they will understand that support for Palestine doesn’t automatically mean support for Hamas, hate for Jews and denial of the Holocaust? That many students and intellectuals on the left support Palestine for secular and feminist reasons, in order to further the cause of the fight against colonialism, social injustice and patriarchy?

I agree about performative wokenes and being out of touch with the poor. But the biggest criticism is the sheer hypocrisy. These people join monopolistic law firms advising monopolistic and corrupt companies, furthering the worst of crony capitalism in India. It shows they are not serious or sincere.

TT&A might be a good option, and a specific KCo Mumbai team (iykwim) would be another.

Avoid most of CAM, JSA and Trilegal, and if you don't mind switching to broader finance teams who also do some gen corp work, then also consider Veritas Legal & Anagram Partners.

The best option imo would be to join a bank, of you can handle the paycut. The benefits & WLB by far overweigh any loss of T1 tag there! All the best!

Dunno what law school you are talking about. I can speak for NALSAR. 65% score would fall in the fourth bracket (80+, 75+, 70+, 65+). Nominally that would mean an A+ grade (below O, D, A++), but actually it is well below the average.

Moreover, the OP is in a slightly lesser valued law school. I would suggest that they really try to ace their CAT and hope that it can cover for a rather ordinary performance in their undergrad degree.

It is not at all normal for a 58 year old law firm partner to earn 4.5 cr - absolute rubbish

maths require such a lawyer to have a 12-15 crore book to start with (your personal earning cannot be more than one third of your teams billing)

Extremely rare

Do not write such stuff to set up unrealistic expectations in young lawyers

Fali, surprise, surprise managed to train only one junior through his entire career. His name is Sharma. Sharma was also like an executive assistant cum clerk to Fali and the original comment is a remark on Sharma and how he conducted himself and didn't make bundles of hot cash selling access to Fali. Satire? Ask around and judge!!

Met them at the National Rounds and a friend had a round against them, heard externally they had a really good round in the round against the NALSAR team and seemed like decent team all around but the problem seems to be institutional. Their team was apparently constituted only in November (for context the problem release was in September) on the basis of the NLS intra-moot rounds.

If it's true, the team had half the time other teams did for memorial submissions + they hadn't mooted together before (and didn't choose each other apparently since no open challengers), both play a pretty significant role in Jessup and afaik not having an open challenger especially for Jessup is an anomaly.

Based on the round against them, friend said it seemed like a bit of a shocker the team didn't make it but same can be said for GNLU who seemed like favourites to go to the world rounds (experienced team all around and a member who'd reached Jessup world rounds in 2022)

Hopefully the team's can bounce back - Jessup is a fickle mistress if nothing else.

Kindly suggest law firms dealing with the above subject practice areas who pay well to a fresher i.e., atleast above 40k. I am very well aware about the tier 1's and 2's like CAM, SAM, DSK, ELP, Desai and Diwanji etc. Kindly suggest any other firms with a decent practice and good work life balance.

A brief relevant background: I am in my third year as a litigator. I need not wax any eloquent about the pathetic pay and the woes of a first generation with no meaningful connections. From a no-name college. Born, raised, and permanently settled in one of the metro cities.

Cut to the question(s)

1. How does the whole contract management scene work?

2. What are the entry points as also barriers to the same?

3. Is my litigation experience likely to help?

4. What are the basics I need to know for an in-house interview?

Please note, I have a litigation work experience throughout. If I am missing out on any points, or if I am incorrectly clubbing contract management openings and in-house vacancies , please correct me and guide me.

Just for clearing any doubts whatsoever, I am definitely not even looking into T1s and the like.

How is litigation before the Petroleum and Natural Gas Regulatory Board and Electricity Tribunal as a practice area? Is it an upcoming and lucrative practice area? How many tier 1 and tier 2 firms are engaged in this? How many firms specialise in it? Is it a practice area a fresher could consider? Would appreciate ANY insights.