Couldnt understand the salary bit. $50k, right? Is it ok by US standards/ your exp level?

In any case, you said that there is huge growth potential (your small firm making millions). So I just have one question for you - pagal hai kya!!??

Why do you want to leave that job and come here to practice law? Law practice is just a small cog in the business ecosystem (unless you end up absolutely killing it). You are/ can be part of something much bigger.

If for any reason you decide to come here - please recommend by CV there.

@R/Mod - There was great thread which was about how some lawyers went into non-law areas and are doing great. Post that here? Young lawyer bhai ka predicament door ho jaega (hopefully).

Idk why ELP seems to be taking random interns nowadays when they are not even going to be hiring them. Initially they used to have a test format on their website. Now it's just the HR responding selected emails, we don't know what their criteria is. They don't keep interns for more than a month. If you see someone who is a long

term intern, you'll see that they got in through contacts. Short term interns are those lucky random selections.

It means they are preparing for the Solicitor exam wherein you have to undertake a three year internship like program called articled clerkship under a solicitor. You'll have to work under the solicitor for three years like a CA article and then write the exam. The exam is generally intensive and the clearance rate is pretty low..Have heard that you need contacts to get signed up as an article and even clear the exam because people fail in a subject or two by a thin margin.

It's a fictional criteria based purely on our perception. In general tier 1 would be a full service firm with good rankings in multiple areas.

It is all area specific for me, eg. IC can be called a tier one for funds and not AZB. AZB is tier one for m&a etc but not IC.

"First, we will conduct a caste census...to know the exact population and status of backward castes, SCs, STs, minorities and other castes. After that, the financial and institutional survey will begin. Subsequently, we will take up the historic assignment to distribute the wealth of India, jobs and other welfare schemes to these sections based on their population," he said. Rahul claimed that backward castes, dalits, minorities and adivasis comprised nearly 90% of India's population, but had miniscule share in govt jobs, big companies and other sectors.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/rahul-gandhi-vows-survey-for-wealth-redistribution/articleshow/109096058.cms#

Here's why I think there are challenges:

1. Logistically, one problem is that rich have assets either in immovable property or in banks abroad. How can one redistribute immovable property or confiscate money abroad?

2. Constitutionally, one can impose 80% tax of the richest 20% of India. It should also be fine to redistribute that wealth to the poor through cash transfers. However, if redistribution is only confined to backward castes and minorities, as his speech suggests, that may be constitutionally difficult. The creamy layer will have to be excluded and the poor among forward castes and non-muslim Minorities (Sikhs, Christians, Parsis and Jains) will have to be included as well.

3. Another issue is that of agricultural income. Will redistribution entail taking way wealth of rich farmers?

All in all, this is easier said than done.

First suggestion, do not enter ip prosecution. Once you enter there is rarely an exit from the practice and after the ROI does not justify the salary increase as majority of IP prosecution is done by boutique firms so the corporate T1s don't really want to enter it (other than KCO).

My suggestion would be to enter IP transactional or litigation. Try to get into the relevant teams in Anand and Anand or Saikrishna. Remfry is also great provided yothey don't push you in prosecution.

Disclaimer - this is a personal opinion. There are many who have found their footing in IP prosecution and are earning really well.

For core real estate practice for marquee developers, WG, DSK and DVA. Mr. Federal and viren miskita are senior lawyers and are excellent to learn from.

If money is a priority, Bhaumik at SAM is another good option. Harsh Parikh at Kco is also generally well regarded.

None of the other firms or lawyers mentioned here are sought after by the big players in the RE space. As someone else mentioned, they play a supporting role or are approached because the client is serviced by the law firm in other sectors.

As a mid 20-something year old, India-qualified lawyer working abroad in an unconventional job, which does not even qualify as an in-house role, does it make sense to stray away from practicing the Law? I've been following Legally India for a while now and the general consensus on Law Firm and Indian-work culture seems to be falling short in the human decency department.

I'm not gonna get into the nitty-gritties, but bit of background as to what I do is that I work in a boutique specialized management consulting firm, focused on a specific industry. I put together analyses of project-specific problems in the aforesaid industry and help clients navigate issues and entitlement. Working here has broken a huge myth for me that it is the big companies that get the big work and the small companies get the leftovers. Our miniscule company has worked on huge multi-national projects and the revenues are in USD millions.

Totally lucked out on this job because the work-life balance is fantastic, I get home by 5-5:30ish p.m. no questions asked, enough time for activities and have a social life, weekends are respected, after-work hour calls are frowned upon and the pay is ridiculous (After conversion, bonuses inclusive, upwards of approx. 40L). I have been promoted twice and enjoy a fantastic rapport with the Managing Director/ Owner of the company. That being said when push came to shove, my team has had months where our workdays lasted longer than 24 hours for weeks, because there were deadline-critical submissions that were to be made. There are are a few more downsides to the job, but the pros definitely far outweigh the cons.

Maybe 5% of what I do is legal work including contract drafting, vetting and other legal tasks, but my primary tasks revolve around advising the clients on project-specific issues.

I have established myself quite well, but feel dissuaded in continuing here because my complacency has increased and now I'm looking for a new challenge and rejuvenated vigor.

Are there any lawyers here who have pivoted into non-legal and unconventional roles? What does it mean to be a lawyer working outside the legal industry? My graduate-level educated parents ask me to stay updated with the law and legal acumen required on a surface level, but are actually quite enthusiastic that I have transitioned into the role I am in currently, because they've seen my work and are thoroughly impressed with what I do.

Is coming back to work in India worth it and should I steer my course of action into practicing the Law? As much as I love working here albeit all the challenges it poses, there's something about the way and speed things move in India and how everyday there's another obstacle to be conquered.

I've been contemplating moving back to India for a while now and since I have little-to-no experience working in a law firm or an Indian Company, I would join either as an A0 or a "Consultant" in T1 firms and considering how much I make currently, it's unlikely that the India-fitment pay would be given due to lack of experience in a Law firm and/or companies. It would be hugely appreciated if lawyers in T1 firms, in-house roles and other unconventional non-legal roles, could help shed some light on my dilemma.

Thank you!

Compulsory subjects:

- Sociology: 2 courses

- History: 2 courses

- Political Science: 2 courses

- Jurisprudence

- Human Rights

- Family Law: 2 courses

- Labour Law: 2 courses

- Agriculture Law

- Gender and Law (in some colleges)

- Law, Poverty and Development (in some colleges)

Optional subjects:

- Financial accounting (compulsory only in BBA LLB)

- Principles of management (compulsory only in BBA LLB)

- Business communication (compulsory only in BBA LLB)

- Competition law

- Capital markets

- M&A

- Corporate Finance

- International Trade

- Insurance law

- IT law

- Economic Offences

- ADR

Hi, I have an internship confirmation from Citadel Law Chambers, Kolkata next month. Can someone please mention the kind of work that is given to the interns? How is the learning experience? I know that the work culture is bad but as I am going to intern for a month, it is not the greatest concern. Also, do mention the actual work hours and whether any stipend is paid?

Any guidance would be highly appreciated, Thanks!

or you can try out https://nludelhi.ac.in/UploadedImages/6bcb94c6-ed49-44a0-af1b-78f032f12a7a.pdf

the joint LLM programme between NLUD, WIPO and the Office of Controller General of Patents, Designs and Trade Marks

NLUD seems to be on a roll with innovative LLM programmes

Yes, there's more. The University of Zurich has withdrawn from the university ranking published by The Times Higher Education (THE) as it creates false incentives. They are not even worth the paper they are written on.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/education/university-of-zurich-quits-international-university-ranking/73693006

Hello everyone,

I am currently a 5th-year student at a private college affiliated with a State University. Last year, I had the opportunity to secure an internship with SAM's Projects team in Mumbai through some connections. Thanks to my performance, I was offered a callback internship. The team was very happy with my deliverables and recommended me for a PPO Interview. I now have the opportunity for an interview with their Projects and Infrastructure team next week.

Since this will be my first interview and it will be conducted virtually, I'm seeking advice from anyone who has recently gone through a PPO interview at SAM, specifically with the Projects team. If you could please share some insights into the questions typically asked in the HR round and technical round and where to prepare from.
Additionally, any other tips to keep in mind would be greatly appreciated. I really want to convert this interview into an Offer.
Thank you!

On a related note. I (A2 at T1 firm, T1 NLU grad) am currently using the HDFC Infinia credit card. I had to hustle my RM hard early on to get it. The fee is not insignificant, but the card is quite sexy, the metal card always makes a point/statement when I take it out at bars/restaurants at work dinners, dates etc. I use it for all my bills/payments/tickets/shopping/travel. What card should I upgrade to?

My favourite is the MRCC. The one advantage that Amex has is the Pay with Points, which as far as I know nobody else offers. They are also not cheap in the sense that your points accumulate as you spend and not as you pay your bills. Their customer interface has absolutely no parallel, even sans the concierge.

If you want to enter their ecosystem, both the MRCC and the Gold are good options. The Plat is only an ego booster. If you really made it big, you'll be offered a Black.

I have always been a congress supporter, and was gonna vote for them until they started with this 'quota' politics. Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi - none of them wanted more quotas. Even Manmohan Singh govt never engaged in such petty politics. Now when Rahul Gandhi knows that raising issues like inflation/unemployment has not given them election wins, he and his ilk has decided to resort to the last plank i.e. caste. Dividing India on the basis of caste portraying general category to be the enemy. This insane person does not even know the long term repercussions. Central govt jobs already have 60% quotas (50% being caste based), where does the need to grant more quotas arise? What exactly will taking quotas to 80% achieve? Would the so called reputed educational institutions still be relevant, when they would only cater to castes and not merit? I belong to a government college and hypothetically, if all the reservations INC's manifesto seeks are implemented here alongside state's domicile quota, the number of unreserved seats left will be 8 out of 100.

What started out as a noble method to seek representation of oppressed communities has only reduced to a source of votebank politics. "Not winning elections? Impose a quota." Everyday, we have a new community demanding backward status and the political parties cater to them because otherwise how would they secure their votes. Marathas, Patidars, Jat quota agitations are the prime examples. The talk about imposing quotas on private educational institutions is super insane because I am sure the man does not know about Article 19. While in their speeches, he has even talked about imposing quotas on private jobs, the same is not mentioned in the manifesto just so he does not lose the 'vote-bank' of people handling businesses and corporates.

I really hope Congress is reduced to less than 30 seats this time around, so this man can take retirement and let party be with the few sensible leaders, who are still left in the party. The India of 2024 does not need this Congress. India needs to move forward. Any effort to slow it down must be resisted.

That's true. If you think about it - NLS actually hasn't beaten any NLU at any time. What this means is there was never a case where at a certain time NLS was Ranked 10, then Rank 5, and then Rank 1. It has never had to progress in ranking by doing something significant or substantial (except the date of establishment). In the military, this is called - not having combat experience.

This is dangerous for NLS. The day it loses its Rank 1 among state NLUs (and it will soon), it will not be able to come up to Rank 1 again because it just does not know how to. I hope the current administration understands this.

You forget that NLS' USP was the 5-year LLB program for which it had no competition when it started. It was the first time in India. NLS won a race where it was the only one in the fray. To put it another way, if NLS were to be set up today, it would be classified as a "Tier 3" NLU and would have no chance in ever moving to be T1.

State NLUs are solely UG-focused, and they make no qualms about it. LLMs are not taken seriously anyway so a review is not of much help when the universities themselves look down upon LLM programs. Reviews are useful only when there is a concerted effort to improve. Here there's none. State NLUs have displayed a remarkable poverty of aspiration (borrowed the term from Sanjeev Sanyal). They are happy and contented running UG programs.

For all the hype you see here about the so-called Tier 1 NLUs, there's not a single NLU that has a stated goal of having the best LLM program in India/Asia. This could easily become a niche USP for an NLU - but there's no aspiration.

Anecdotal data is not enough. As someone commented, there's a need for official audited data on placements by the state NLUs. Till that comes, one can assume that the situation in the NLUs cannot be better than that of IITs.

So much so, that even BITS Pilani is struggling with placements and it does not have any reservations.

https://indianexpress.com/article/education/iits-bits-call-for-help-from-alumni-network-for-placemen-amid-global-slowdown-9176894/

Hey nlu seniors , I got rank of 138X am getting colleges such as cnlu or mostly upto rgnul , I wanted to give this exam again , but I and my family have decide to take admission in any nlu and give exam again in December as a safety net feature because you know exam is very unpredictable, Is this right decision if yes than how can I continue my clat prep while being in college

Also I recently completed my 12th boards from science stream so what problems will I face in BBA and ba

I don't agree with the fact that a transition back to law firms isn't possible. It's the same thing that non-NLU kids here try to pull on this forum trying to bash NLUs - nothing against private colleges but you guys REALLY don't like us huh?

As long as you keep up with the technical knowledge, the work you do is no different from what the A0s to A3s do in T1s. Only at the SA level does it start to diverge a bit, so for 1-2 years of PQE, you're good. Of course, if you like the people and the job, you'll be fine and may even want to continue - perfectly fine, but then unless you get extremely specialised knowledge (eg: tax/M&A) you'll not be able to join as a PA/Partner. I'd wager getting in as an SA would in fact be tougher because I've seen big 4 partners become firm partners, but not all that much vice versa.

Even a 2-3% swing could be massive and win many marginal seats. Still hope for Rahul as PM then?

https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/lok-sabha/story/congress-manifesto-same-sex-marriage-lgbtq-couples-lok-sabha-polls-2523624-2024-04-05

ICSI notes are always looked down by B&F folks, maybe CS helps for Capmarks or M&A but not B&F. Don't try to act smart kid, you need to know the basics about security creation, ECBs, NCD issuance, IBC, FEMA and then probably go through the Graham Vinter's project finance resources. Either ways, 8-10 years of experience will allow you to make a niche within the broad gamut of work which this practice entails i.e. trade finance or debt capmarks or project finance or turnaround-restructuring or fintech.

Hi all, I am a law student in my final year from Mumbai, I needed some advice. I come from a tier 2/3 college but have lucked out and gotten internships in 5-6 tier 1 firms and 4-5 tier2 firms. I am perusing my 3 year LLB course and I wanted help with any recommendations for boutique firms in Mumbai that give out assessment internships and actually give you a job after your assessment internship and not say they can’t take you because they’re not hiring, any firm like that that actually pays decent?50k+ a month?

Hello everybody, I need some help, I’m in my last year of my 3 year LLB from Mumbai,I’m in a Mumbai University affiliated college but it it’s a tier 2/3 college,however I lucked out and have got 5 internships at tier1 firms and a few in tier 2 firms. I wanted to know more about Boutique law firms in Mumbai that have openings for assessment internship and give jobs after assessment with good pay?

Area of interest being-

Gen corp m&a

IPR& media entertainment

Hey, I have it too. It's a superpower, trust me. You can be hyper-focused only on the things you like but that's where you will be winning and the rest of them would be just playing.

Someone I listen to told me that one day, there will be a time when everybody will want to have ADHD. The ones without them are living a vanilla life.