Study law if you like, finish it, see if you even like it, for goodness sakes don’t quit your government job to study. And working in a law firm is not a bed of roses or even a direct input output function of hours worked and money earned. You have to work all day and night as a junior, and later on have to bring in business, else you’re fired. And that’s guaranteed. You WILL need to either bring in or execute a fixed Monetary value in the crores at any T1. If you can’t, forget about it.

This is why UPSC needs to revamp things and cut attempts down to 2. So that people don't waste years of their lives.

They can introduce lateral entry after the age of 40 so that people can go get experience elsewhere and then try again for civil services. Win win for all.

The named Managing Partner appears to be running the shop like a personal fiefdom, completely junking all the professionalism crap which he used as a ploy to break Luthra. ▮▮▮. Anyone from the Firm that can confirm this rumour?

Further I have heard that contrary to the noise that has been created, no actual equity has been opened at the Firm ▮▮▮ What a joke, considering he fought with RKL precisely on this issue!

(KIAN, show some guts and let this be published! As you aware, Truth is always an unbeatable defence)

No political background. As someone else pointed out he's a graduate from NLS and went to Bishop Cottons which is one of Bangalore's poshest schools. He has made good use of those networks. Of course he is also an excellent speaker with great clarity of argument - both inside and outside court.

Given your interest in pursuing an MBA abroad, it's important to consider some key differences between law and business studies, and how they might impact your preparation. While the MBA is often viewed as overhyped in India, primarily for its placement opportunities, the true value of an MBA lies in its broad approach to problem-solving and emphasis on collaboration.

Law focuses on learning rules and procedures within a competitive environment, whereas an MBA will challenge you to apply simple, effective rules across various aspects of life and work. This teaches you to think broadly and work collaboratively, skills that are crucial in any business setting. This is not something which comes easy to lawyers and the more you be a lawyer in a law firm, the more difficult this transition will take.

However, if you want to make your MBA experience truly enriching, consider diving into subjects like accounting and finance, which are fundamental to understanding the language of business. Additionally, running your own business, even on a small scale, can provide invaluable real-world experience that enhances your learning in an MBA program.

Before you decide, it's crucial to reflect deeply on why you want to pursue an MBA. Understanding your core motivations will help you determine if this degree aligns with your professional goals. Once clear, choose a business school that aligns with your learning approach and where you aspire to relocate and work.

Rather than looking for a specific area of law that might prepare you for an MBA, focus directly on gaining experiences that align with your interest in business. As Warren Buffet suggests, align your actions closely with your goals to make the most of your time and efforts.

Reflecting on my personal experience, completing my MBA over a decade ago significantly changed my perspective, enabling me to integrate a business viewpoint in all my professional endeavours. This shift might well be something you find equally transformative, should you decide to proceed with an MBA. Speak to lawyers who have done an MBA to get the right insight. No blogs or posts here can serve that purpose.

All the best with your future plans.

Classism is rampant, with certain individuals assuming authority based on wealth or connections, leading to a culture of harassment, bullying, and ragging. Women in these circles often remain silent or even support misconduct to maintain convenience or loyalty. It’s one big social circle. NUJS has become an echo chamber, controlled by these elitist groups who dominate academic and cultural societies. Needless to say the selection procedure too is based on who is what and brings how much influence on the table. People in these groups have become self anointed voices of change which reeks of privilege and only their narrative to be taken seriously. They have taken responsibility to ‘educate’ people. Despite numerous incidents, accountability remains elusive. A recent incident involves a group of boys consistently bullying a junior, this junior was beaten up by a person in this group. And the guy’s friends have taken responsibility to make the junior’s life a hell, yet with only a month left in college, will these people face consequences?

Is the money and lifestyle worth it ? Like toiling away your youth in a 12x12 cubicle for 12 hours every single day worth it ? I am kind of getting fed up, irritated and depressed. Will taking less salary but a more meaningful job work ? Like an ngo or a teaching role. I just want a simple life. People who left corporate or even law as a whole, where are you ? Are you happier ? I wish I had generational wealth or maybe some agricultural land. I just can't take the rat race anymore.

Glad to swap my struggles with a third generation lawyer, or anyone with generational wealth.

No really, give me like even 2 crore and I will make exponentially more out of my life than you (if you’re someone born to privilege) will.

Don’t compare ‘struggles’ of privilege vs actual struggle.

This is unfortunately the truth for about (60%?) of all graduating lawyers in the past 5-6 years - not finding the job you want or finding one at all - the demand for first years as lawyers is tanking, and therefore the market is competitive. Take what you find.

Don't jump ship whenever "possible" since it reflects badly on your profile as someone who will leave the job quickly. Leave only when you have a serious possiblity of getting into a tier 1/2 firm.

Experience always improves chances of success, its just the start that's tough.

Viral video link below, followed by an excerpt from a news report from the LA Times. Note that the Dean's wife, who grabs the girl student who is speaking, is eminent law professor Catherine Fisk. What are your thoughts? Should the Dean and Prof Fisk have given the protestors a chance to speak? Why did Prof Fisk physically grab the girl? Was that proper of Prof Fisk to do so? Do you agree that it was assault? Also, can the protest be called antisemitic just because the Dean and his wife are Jewish? So what if they are Jewish? Finally, aren't the protestors protected under the First Amendment?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jvmMHJLvl9c

What was supposed to be a celebratory dinner at a dean’s home for graduating UC Berkeley law students on Tuesday turned into an angry confrontation over the Israel-Hamas war, free speech and accusations of anti-Muslim and anti-Jewish hatred.

Several dozen law school students were invited to the Oakland home of School of Law Dean Erwin Chemerinsky and his wife, law school professor Catherine Fisk, for the first of three dinners they planned to host. The event, which took place in the couple’s backyard garden with white-cloth-covered tables and students seated among lemon trees, was to recognize the work of law students and provide an opportunity to enjoy casual time with the two prominent professors.

But the dinner quickly devolved after a Palestinian American law student who was invited stood up in front of guests and attempted to give a speech about Palestinians dying in Gaza and her desire for the university to divest from corporations involved in Israel’s war and its occupation and blockade of Palestinian lands.

Chemerinsky approached the student with his arms folded and shouted at her: “Please leave. No. Please leave. Please leave.” Fisk grabbed away the student’s microphone, while saying, “It is not your house. It is my house. And I want you to leave.”

The student who spoke, Malak Afaneh, said that Fisk assaulted her and that her free speech rights were denied.

Chemerinsky, who is Jewish, says that the incident is the latest in antisemitic attacks on him and that free speech does not extend to his home. The university, which has been embroiled in months of protests over the Israel-Hamas war, is standing behind the dean.

“I am appalled and deeply disturbed by what occurred at Dean Chemerinsky’s home last night,” UC Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ said in a statement. “I have been in touch with him to offer my support and sympathy. While our support for free speech is unwavering, we cannot condone using a social occasion at a person’s private residence as a platform for protest.”

In an interview, University of California President Michael Drake called the incident “very unfortunate.”

UC Board of Regents Chair Rich Leib said he condemned the student’s actions and called it “deplorable.... The individuals that targeted this event did so simply because it was hosted by a dean who is Jewish. These actions were antisemitic, threatening, and do not reflect the values of this university.”

https://www.news18.com/world/dinner-party-at-berkeley-law-school-deans-house-goes-berserk-as-student-starts-speaking-about-gaza-war-video-8848123.html

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-10/uc-berkeley-law-school-dean-clashes-with-pro-palestinian-activists

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/uc-berkeley-dean-dinner-party-palestinian-american-student-gaza-killings-speech-2525856-2024-04-11

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-11/berkeley-dean-who-defends-free-speech-laments-antisemitic-attack

their plan seems to be uncertain

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/controversy-surrounds-land-reservation-for-new-university-campus-in-mumbai-s-goregaon-east-101689189174873.html

nlu mumbai now has the dubious distinction of the longest running nlu in a temp campus

I recently discovered an error in my Class 12 board marks, leading to a 0.5 mark increase in History after reevaluation by the ISC Board. However, my school-issued mark sheet still shows the old marks. I'm uncertain if NLU Nagpur will accept this mark sheet, given that it doesn't reflect the updated History marks. I also worry about the timing of receiving an updated mark sheet, as counseling sessions are approaching.

Fortunately, I have digital copies of the updated mark sheet on DigiLocker and the CISCE website. However, I lack a printed copy which has to be given by CISCE Board with the corrected History marks. I've reached out to NLU Nagpur for clarification, but haven't received a response.

What steps should I take in this situation? Should I wait for the updated mark sheet, or use the current one for admission? Will digital copies be acceptable, or must I provide a printed version? Any guidance on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

I have asked few seniors of NLU nagpur they have said it's okay but asked to keep a soft copy of updated marksheet with me.

What made him big is he gives information normally available only in English in clear and concise Hindi/Hinglish, which makes him unique and gives him wider base of Hindi belt

For some godforsaken reason, this literal Youtuber is a more effective Hindi-speaking critic of the government than the entire fucking Opposition

Just see his recent video in twitter of how he purposely showed cow while telling a beef exporter company donated to BJP. He is not going to tell that its Buffalo meat not cow meat.

His andhbhakt supporters are anyways gonna defend him while calling andhbhakt. Currently he is doing campaign for opposition so better watch out for misleading claims from him

nalsar, finished runner up in a national moot, will be done with my 4th sem in a month, no publications (but some well written projects in case a writing sample is asked for), no previous internships, first gen so no connections, Batch rank 60ish. please help. i am scared of applying as i don't want to get rejected, bcz I have heard firms keep tabs of who they rejected previously and future applications are more scrutinized. Also, suggestions for where i can intern in the summer break? kindly help, as there are no seniors i regularly talk to whom i can take advice from 🙏

This is what legally India should be used for, asking Law subjects related questions and not political , NFSU related , Dating, what type of food to eat and Which NLU is better type of questions. In my opinion, Mods should only publish law related questions and should refrain from publishing other useless threads.

LI users are disproportionately far-left and can't be taken a representative sample. Take it from me: the majority of law school students are centrist or centre-right. They vote for the BJP --- not necessarily because they like the BJP, but because they fear an alternative government run by Rahul/Mamata/Lalu/Akhilesh/DMK etc will be a lot worse.

@Arnab Goswami:

https://twitter.com/republic/status/1778122026265317398

So some of these linkedin recruiters claim that all firms have a 6 month cool-off period i.e. if you've applied for a job and you weren't selected, you have to wait another 6 months for your application to be entertained and this supposedly includes emails to hr, partners and anything else. Is it just something they say to discourage people from applying independently and going through them or is it actually a thing? Especially with tier 1 and tier 2 firms, do they actually follow it?

If you have only seen Delhi HC/SC canteen, and work out of some chamber in a Defence Colony basement then you've only seen Creta/Nexon. Don't speak for a profession that at the top end is among the most glamourous in the world. neeti Bagh, Sunder Nagar, Taj suites, First Class airtravel (occasional private jet), Machine/apple only offices and so on. Where clients gift Rolexes to their trusted rainmakers.

As someone who keeps getting approached by private law universities in India with requests to mark them well in the QS survey (which I get invites to participate in every year), I assure you that the rankings can be 'hacked' by focusing on a few things on pen and paper without any meaningful institutional development in terms of education. There is a reason several globally reputed universities are dropping out of these rankings deliberately.

I am quite amused really. These Apex Court judges have a penchant for going after soft and sensationalist targets. I do not understand what business they have looking into Baba's business. They should first set their house in order. Inter-generational appointment of judges, nepotism in the registry, giving judgments based on face law and not case laws, casteism and the sheer moral bankruptcy and panic when it comes to important matters against Gobiji.

I know several people like this, but at law firms. Dudes be thinking anybody cares about their views or insta stories. Like no dude, your 2 rupees ki philosophy stolen from the reddit comments made by unemployed Marxist neckbeards impresses no one. Not to mention these dudes are, most of the times, not physically attractive, which is the primary problem.

Your precious Modiji and Amitji themselves have said that all the promises they make before elections are jumlas. You should ask them about it. Meanwhile, here are some of those:

1. Magnetic chip on 2000 notes.

2. Demonetisation stopping black money.

3. 15 lakhs in every account.

4. 2 crores of jobs every year.

5. Agniveer

6. Crop MSP

7. Electoral bond scam

8. BJP as washing machine scam. Every opposition leader under investigation goes free when they join BJP

9. No dynasty politics. Lol, everywhere the family members of BJP people are being given election tickets or lucrative positions for which they are unqualified. Ask Jay Shah.

10. China isn't inside our lands.

Not really. Had NLUD not been a NLU, it would’ve ended up similar to IP’s law colleges or other Delhi colleges like Amity. At the very least, the student quality would’ve not been as good. The NLU tag helped set it apart and then of course the administration and student quality helped elevate it. And CLAT has nothing to do with it since before CLAT, places like NLS, NALSAR and all were still big names.

https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/supreme-court-patanjali-baba-ramdev-misleading-ads-contempt-deceiving-consumers-254882

Stop posting comments that suit your so-called agenda, this is the full statement made by the Hon'ble SC.

Interested in going abroad for an MBA a few years down the line. Is there any specific area of law and/or team that could provide me with a decent foundation for what an MBA program could throw at me? Are there any other skills that I must look at building up, that a law firm job would not potentially provide?

At the beginning stages of my research for this. Any advice in general with respect to what I should be looking at, or what I should be doing would be much appreciated.

Hello, I will be graduating in June 2024, I don't have any job of offer in hand. I don't want to continue doing internships after my graduation. If there is a vacancies in any firm, where I can apply please do suggest...It will be a great help.- First Generation Lawyer with no references. :(

Father wrote a Will for his self-acquired property. He has two sons and three married daughters. According to his Will, property can be sold by wife. If not sold during her life time, after her death, property right passes to the two sons. Three daughters can claim only one lakh rupees from the sons. Father died, mother died. Unmarried elder son also died. Three sisters obtained legal heir certificate for the property of their unmarried and dead elder brother. Younger brother refuses to share the property value of the dead brother's share. Can the sisters claim the property value of their dead brother.

People are asking: Is such an attitude taken against misleading ads by Complan and Bournvita?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ramdev-supreme-court-patanjali-we-are-not-blind-supreme-court-raps-ramdev-again-rejects-apology-5411262

Modi does indeed have correspondence course degrees from DU (School of Open Learning) and I'll tell you who has no university degree though, yet has many crores worth in assets:

- Sonia Gandhi (highest qualification in affidavit given as Lennon Cook School, an English-language teaching centre in the UK)

- Abhishek Banerjee (highest qualification in affidavit given as undergrad course from IIPM, which has been derecognised by courts)

- Tejaswi Yadav (didn't complete school)

- Priyank Kharge (12th pass and certificate computer course, which is not the same as a university degree)

I am from a tier 1 NLU, my BF of 3 and a half years in college is blocked 😭 I got Khaitan Bom, he got SAM. I am sure he must have chosen Delhi to avoid being around but is there a chance of him being in Bom ? I can’t ask him, because that would break my no contact spree. BUT I AM DYING TO KNOW, since I got to know they have sent out letters. Sad

If you are a JGLS student and you genuinely feel that JGLS is the best Indian law school, good for you. Hope you enjoy your education and you get the career outcome you want.

If you are an aspirant who is willing to leave an NLS/ NLUD/ Nalsar for JGLS, I am sure many other aspirants would be happy with your choice.

So I am 2nd year law student without any law background. I would consider myself above average not the topper. But it just broke my heart when I see few of my average and below average classmate's life(who have family background in law) is so easier they are getting opportunities like a piece of cake and here I am struggling to get my CV open by the HR.

Personally no hate to people who have such background, obviously if I had such backing I would have also utilized it. But still my brain always get thinking how my life would be much easier if I even get 1% of the opportunities that they can afford.

I have worked here. There were issues during the pandemic. However, they do pay on time, had that not been the case all would have left by now. Please do not pay heed to former disgruntled employees who take out their frustrations on platforms like these and bombard with comments for the sake of it. Now my experience is of a year back but I am sure not a lot would have changed by now.

Coming to personal cases, I agree, they do personal cases.

On a pretext of a holiday, anyways we are made to work! So, what's the point in giving you a holiday and expect work. I guess its still better than any other Tier I firms giving you a holiday and asking you to deliver due to urgency from client. I have spoiled numerous festivals delivering "priority/urgent" projects. Somehow, these firms enjoy seeing our miserable lives. Ofcourse, they compensate us in exchange for our lives!

Uncle ji why stop at 21? Why not 30? Why not 40? Why not only single people? Why not only married people? Why not only married people with kids? Why not only people with grandkids? What is the rationale behind 21? It's arbitrary.

Uncle ji everyone pays tax. In the current GST regime wheat, rice, sugar and dairy are taxed. Finding someone who does not consume all these four products is next to impossible.Uncle ji are all universities made equal? Why not just the INIs? Why not just JNU, the best ranked Uni in India?

Uncle ji, your whole idea of India being a developed country does not envision holistic and inclusive development. You only want better services for yourself while leeching off the guards, and maids, and factory workers, and sabziwallas.

Also, just a crazy scenario... you know.... totally not what happened in France and USA... so suppose we introduce these atrociously backward thinking stoneage oogabooga voting 'reforms' that you are proposing, in the same manner as you would, to exclude certain groups. Corporations and Income tax payers (https://theprint.in/economy/more-indians-filing-tax-returns-but-only-1-2-of-population-actually-pays-income-tax-shows-govt-data/1686818/) get all the representation. Well you have in effect created a somewhat modern feudalism. The representatives have no incentive to work towards the betterment of ones they do not represent. More than 95% percent population who also make bulk of the agricultural and industrial and in general blue collar workers are left without any representation or any policies of betterment or any access to a social ladder. What do you think is gonna happen? Be a little imaginative.

Every Uncle at the chai ki tapri thinks he can solve our nation's problems. Stop consuming what the capitalist masters want you to consume. 'Afeem' phhookna band karo. Look at how much of the budget is being allocated to education, health, public transport. 3rd largest economy, great, shabash, but also do not forget a population comparable to 3x of USA being dependent free food grains just to survive.

TLDR: Stop drinking elitist koolaid. It ain't that deep.

I'm currently employed, but I'm considering to move, for personal reasons. Either Bangalore or Chennai. I'm aware that the litigation scene is not top tier like it is in Delhi or Bombay, but what's the scene in Bangalore or Chennai?

Looking from a tax practise PoV, especially advisory/ consultancy.

Thanks!