As it happens, I have my undergraduate law degree from an institution that is far ahead of NLSIU in every conceivable metric. However, I don't need to parade that to prove my superiority over others, unlike the NLSIU trolls who throng this place. I just pointed out that an opinion that has been making rounds here since long has now been disproved. Apparently you're insecure enough to go ad hominem based on that, which reveals more about yourself than about me, of course.

Harvard can afford doing that because A. recruiters want to take people from there and they can afford to be choosy. NLSIU no longer can. And B. Harvard admin does plenty of things to facilitate recruitment, unlike NLSIU admin. Whatever recruitment happens here is despite Sudhir and not because of Sudhir.

If he cares that less about students making money, then he shouldn't keep charging them more money every year.

There is a difference in bending the rules for getting in a guest lecturer or a chair professor who might be exceptional but not meet criteria and bending the rules so students dont have to attend lectures and can cheat in research papers and exams. The guiding question is whether something is good for the institution in the long term.

What youre calling rigidity is just sticking to that principle. giving away attendance, scrapping rigor, prioritising everything from sports to moots to recruitment over actual teaching and learning is not actually good for the university in the long run. Ask students at nalsar- ask students at any number of other indian law schools.

Flexibility is not about spinelessness or negotiating with students to keep them happy. Flexibility is about doing what is best for the institution. What youre doing here- bitching about him and dragging his name through the mud over minor complaints- which nls students do every few days on this site- that is not in the long term best interest of the institution.

What a huge loss for the firm and its young lawyers! Viral is such a brilliant lawyer, always offering the sharpest insights and deep analysis of complex issues. A great senior to work with and, more importantly, a mentor in the truest sense. Ever smiling and polite, with not a tinge of arrogance, impatience or pride - truly rare to come across senior lawyers like him in this profession. All the best to you, Viral, and hope you get all that you deserve and more!

No one gave him a leg up that he hadnt earned. MP Singh hired him because MP Singh wanted good people to build NUJS. The same reason MP singh hired Shamnad.

Youre saying hes intractable and inflexible for not giving in to some very silly demands to be honest. extensions and attendance condonation is small stuff that good students shouldnt even worry about. Its not his job to meet you half way or all the way and give in to what you want- this isnt negotiation its education. Its literally his job to hear you and decide for himself if he finds the case you made convincing. He does not. Thats his job. If you think hes made the wrong call- you have to go into specifics of what the wrong call is and why its so offensive and important that he be forced to quit.

Working hard means not leaving things till last minute so youre able to manage submitting multiple projects in the same semester. It means staggering your work the entire time and giving yourself buffer for when you might fall sick or have an accident.

This is basic stuff you learn to be capable of doing a job. Just because a deadline for 4 papers is 31 October doesnt mean I only begin work on the 30th or the 25th. It means I begin my work at the beginning of term, do a little everyday and stagger my work so I meet all the deadlines. Some easier projects I might even get done early and submit early, others might take longer hours and I should prepare for that.

If you are debilitatingly sick in that you need hospitalisation- you do get leave. If you are not that sick- if its an ache or a pain or a mild cold- I cannot imagine needing several days of leave for that. Take a day, eat some d cold, get back on it. That shouldnt really disrupt your work unless youve left things for the last minute. And it should be easy enough to manage those within the 25% of classes youre allowed to miss.

If youd rather not- youre free to leave the best law school in the country. Hundreds will take your place immediately. You dont get to come into an academic institution and demand that it lowers it standards to make things easier for you- thats not a right students have.

what happens? nothing happens. Every student is allowed to miss some classes while still being allowed to write examination. Its only when that number goes below 75% that youre in trouble. Students who are asking for condonation for attendance are saying- I want to take my 25% for vacation, and any classes I miss in addition to that- because of recruitments or moots or illness or what have you- that I want you to condone so I can make the minimum attendance mark. Good students who try their best simply dont struggle with these problems. If youve been conscientious you will have attended enough classes that missing one or two for an interview or for something else really shouldnt hurt you. The students want to change the expectation from : students should attend all classes except in circumstances where they cant, to : students should attend only 75% and thats after accounting for every single reason for which you can excuse an absence.

1) friends in other NLUs.

2) some things are made difficult for the sake of it. For eg, econ-2 for the first years last year was just numericals (in the end terms). Harder for many due to its quantitative nature, but not the best- applying concepts to policy (the previous year pattern) would’ve been far better. Some profs mark badly (extremely harshly) for no good reason. We had handwritten class assignments for some subjects to prevent the use of ChatGPT (?), with no transparency as to the format until right before the exam.

APU has a law department offering LLM courses, which used to be headed by Sudhir Krishnaswamy. It’s not clear if law students were also involved in this protest, but they probably were.

https://x.com/imrangowhar/status/1714332305861284097

https://www.thenewsminute.com/amp/story/karnataka/at-azim-premji-university-convocation-students-sport-palestinian-flag-in-solidarity

I might be getting admission in the second spot round of DU CLC(5 years). But i have already accepted my admission in uslls. I'm skeptical about DU as I'm looking into corporate law but uslls is much farther location wise and doesnt have the brand value like du. Please suggest what should be my path moving forward.

Yeah dude there is just no comparison. However well meaning it might be this is just foolish. Mohit and Viral were one of the legs on which S&R was standing. It’s still standing but don’t know for how long. Everybody knows that S&R CVs are out in the market and everybody is abandoning this sinking ship.

For the same reason that Vinesh Phogat cant use the legal system to undo a disqualification that's borne from the laws and rules that she is bound by. You are entitled to critique a law. You are entitled to challenge it too if the applicable 1st principles permit. What you cant do is dictate your own law or sense of fairness to secure an outcome that suits you.

What you are saying is that MP took a reasonable and flexible approach. That's exactly what Sudhir is being accused of not doing during his tenure as VC. Clearly, he has learnt nothing from MP in this regard. Let me put it clearly, every successful head of the institution has to make tough calls. Nobody will blame him for doing that. However, he's proven to be notoriously rigid with regard to every aspect of law school and alienated everyone in the process. If you're doing that, then clearly you are doing something wrong. The right things that you are doing won't change that if you don't learn your lessons.

I'm in my fifth semester from a T1 nlu. For the next two months, I've got five tier 2 law firm internships. How should I reject the three internships? What should be the basis? also, rejecting these remaining internships hurts, as getting them in the first place was a real pain in the ass. suggestions would help!

Lol language barrier? Everyone inside the college understands English and Hindi. Everyone outside understands Hindi and in worst scenarios, a bit of sign language when you combine it with a few Odia words that you'll learn the in the first few weeks.

"Language" is the last problem for a North Indian there. If you are excluded from a conversation by Odia speaking group of friends, that's another story because they are not your friends.

Curious about this. Quoting: "... our exam papers are significantly harder relative to that of other NLUs imho, but to a banal extent". Two questions. First, how do you know what the exam papers of other unis are like? Second, what do you mean that the greater level of difficulty is to a "banal extent"?

She's taken all the tests that the authorities required her to take. You forget that you don't get to judge whether she's a woman. You lack the locus and she doesn't have any reason to prove her womanhood to you. Just like you haven't been required to prove your manhood to the readers here.

Right now I am in BML Munjal and thinking about transferring to Bennett.

Is it true that many students withdraw admissions by end year?

How is the crowd?

Is it better than Munjal if you have any idea?

How is the faculty and does faculty even matters?

Look at the title of the topic: "Revolution"! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Is that what Gen Z calls an online petition?

A Revolution would be if you guys went on a hunger strike outside the Supreme Court and Law Ministry and demanded reforms in legal education, the creation of an Indian Judicial Service etc.

No comments on most of the accusations here, but Sudhir is working class in the same way Rahul Dravid is working class lol. They went to the same posh school, lived in the same upper middle class locality, and had the overall socio- capital advantages of kids from English medium schools in the 80s and 90s.

If you want to teach,move outside India. Ideally, do a job for 1-2 years, get a foreign LLM with scholarship (by that time you'll have financial cushion as well), try to get PhD abroad with good LORs, don't return to India/return to fancy corporate law schools that are coming up.

When you're 30, doing a PhD without a permanent job, juggling your PhD with jobs without financial security, there's a limit on how much Saraswati can sustain you.

It's good that CLAT still has quants. Surely, someone needs to know what median is. For a start, please go through this example:

https://byjus.com/question-answer/the-median-of-the-data-78-56-22-34-45-54-39-68-54-8/

For median you need to arrange the salaries in the ascending or descending order and then the salary of the middle most person is the median salary. As there are even number of people placed, the median would be (28th + 29th)/2

What are your (unbiased) views on the Recent Hindenburg expo regarding SeBI chairperson Mrs. Buch and her husband.

Their basic allegations seem to be -

1. Conflict of Interest in the Adani issue.

2. Conflict of interest in regard to Reits.

3. Holdings in Tax havens.

4. Opaque consultancy firms in Singapore and Mumbai.

Your views ?

Hi,I’m a law graduate, was looking for jobs from past few months, started interning at a place with a niche area of my interest, later got a job in chamber (civil/ no niche/ general practice), should I keep continue with my internship in this field to actually build experience or should I start my job. Pls help me with genuine advice.

I also got into LLM this year, I am interested to apply for teaching jobs in the future, like after working for 5-6 years. What should I do? If I go for job I won’t be able to pursue my LLM, but if I leave job and continue with internship I’m not sure if I’ll get a job in future, since the job market is really hard. Pls pls help me :)

Thanks in advance.

The reality is far off from the rosy picture that they portray to the world. It's just a marketing gimmick. Personally, the lower increments don't matter much (at a mid level) but what matters is the fact that the management is fine with being dishonest with their own folks (associates). Guess that is what Kalyug is all about! So, for all the newbies, do join whoever is paying more and constantly look for better opportunities.

Considering Saraf and Partners for Day Zero. Hearing really bad reviews generally regarding their pay structure and the erratic functioning on most fronts. The plus probably is that they have a larger presence in Delhi, but given too many bad reviews, feeling hesitant to take it up. Heard that interviews at a T1 NLU by a junior M&A partner had a lot of insulting remarks, due to which the offers were not accepted by students. Please advise as to whether I should consider this firm for M&A / TMT? Really looking for helpful comments.

Hes pretty much followed everything hes expecting of you in his career. He was a dedicated disciplined student, he did go forth and achieve a lot the university has to be proud of as an alum. He played cricket- he just didnt need to miss his work or ask for holidays for it. He did activism- again didnt need academic standards lowered for him. He did so all by balancing his time. I understand its hard- but being in the best law school in the country should be hard. It should be the hardest thing youve done so that youre prepared to be the best lawyers in the country. If you dont want that- if you dont have the drive- you should attend a more relaxed university and leave the opportunity to someone hungry for it.

As VC- hes what multipled your faculty by 300%? hes brought on several institutional collaborators for small and big research projects? Hes raised funding from alumni? Hes revived a number of what were defunct programs and journals and other initiatives and actually laid out a vision for where the university needs to go? In the last two weeks youve had professors from the best universities all over the world come to nls for like three conferences? do you think that stuff just happens? Do you think all of these faculty would have come to nls anyway without sudhirs reputation? Theyre not coming for you- theyre coming because they trust that he will build something worth their talent and labour.

I know students have short memories. Students who werent around for the previous VC's tenure can ask their seniors just how much of a tailspin the university was in when Sudhir took the reins and hes turned it around.

I dont think hes asking you to work a bit harder than he is.

he didnt get rhodes because of MP singh. MP singh supported him because he was a rhodes scholar who actually came back to work and teach in the country ( a rare thing) and was being stiffed on salary by then NLS VC. You know nothing about any of this history except for what youve read by half informed idiots on this message board. Literally what MP singh did he did because it would benefit NUJS - not because sudhir was his chamcha and needed a job.

Back in the 60's and 70's indiranagar wasnt an expensive part of town. And many plots there were allotted to employees in companies and government offices. You know less than nothing about all of this. His parents dont even speak english. His generation is the first in his family to speak english.

I live on the other side of bangalore- when my grandpa bought his site and built his house it cost something like a few hundred rupees which he was able to get because he was a medical professor at a government university and he got a loan. Now the property is worth crores. That doesnt mean my mom being raised in the 60's and 70's had some cushy life. What I make in a month- she didnt make that number in her entire career.

please name someone unqualified who has been appointed to an academic position. do you even know how hiring is done? there is an interview panel for every single position and people are scored on various criteria and a decision is made collectively by the panel- even for ad hoc appointments. For permanent appointments there are external interviewers and a much bigger panel that follows very strict criteria.

Atleast someone started a conversation on this. I don't know why these people glorify GNLU. That institute has horribly in terms of placement this year. I'm not sure if they're hyping up their PPO count but their Day Z was really horrible. Out of total strength (200-PPOs) only 20-22 people got jobs on the D-day, some of them received multiple offers so the number of offers is around 35-40

He isn't the ASG. The ASG is Mr. ARL Sundaresan.

Mr Sankaranarayanan was the ASG, and now has a thriving IBC practice.

He, along with Arvind Pandian, Om Prakash, R Murari, and Srinath Sridevan are the senior counsels who have a significant practice in the NCLT and NCLAT.

Other Senior Counsels who have busy chambers are:-

Satish Parasaran, V. Raghavachari, T. Mohan, and NL Rajah.

Of course, right at the top would be Mr PS Raman and Mr ARL Sundaresan (who currently hold the offical posts of AG and ASG, respectively)

Well, well, well... So was the plan to move money out of small and midcaps and into Adani, or MFs (which all invest in Adani)???

The small and midcaps are all down. Now if Adani crashes and large cap funds also go down, where will the middle class invest?

https://x.com/HindenburgRes/status/1822308895454282053

😳😳😳😳😳😳

Another Adani stock crash coming up? Could it be Ambani this time?

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/hindenburg-research-india-adani-group-9506167/

Leave the funds to NFSU leadership. They are capable of making the best use of it. They are not sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Again, I did not even mention NLU (neither did OP). NLUs are known simply because the older ones have been around for a longer time. There's nothing more to it. Even a donkey ages.

As far as industry perception is concerned, the fact that GIFT City chose to set up the CoE in Corporate Forensics in collaboration with NFSU, is the evidence of industry perception. Your perception of industry perception does not matter. The industry knows what NFSU is doing and what's best for them.

Lastly, if you bring up NLU in every discussion you end up being embarrassed. Just because a tiger cub looks like a domestic cat in its first few weeks after birth, does not mean that it is a domestic cat. A tiger cub is still a tiger, albeit a smaller and younger one.