I have done my 1st internship under a district court advocate. And like every day a client comes and he order chai and some samose and pakore for everyone. Its like daily I drink 3 cups of tea and 5 to 6 samose ( not the healthiest snacks but better than so called tier 1 firms)

Teaching in a foreign university is a star-like thing? I didn't know the bar was so low for NLS graduates. I thought maybe like practicing at the court and defending the rights of the downtrodden and serving society. Or maybe fighting oppressive regimes by challenging their draconian laws. Yeah, that's a star-like thing, and something that real advocates do, unlike these NLS graduates.

Anyway, teaching at some foreign university is not a "star-like thing." It's called brain drain. It shows these people have no sense of devotion towards their own country. Also, not everyone wants to become a coolie at some lala firm. A lot of us are men enough to practice and serve society in the process. Something you would never be able to do, law firm coolie.

I'm currently in my first year, exploring what field of law I want to pursue. Any recommendations are appreciated, litigators or corp. Also, advice on how to get in touch with them and what they look for in applicants would be appreciated!

My current cv basically only has a one month internship under a civil litigator.

Batch of 25 and 26 who have gotten PPOs or placements please share some tips and essentials to work on for internships and college placements CV wise, publications and everything. College placements look bleak and PPOs are very hard to secure despite interning at Tier 1s. Please help.

Can an insider at CAM send this to collete.rangel please, please get this guy exposed asap. Please initiate this. It's incredibly hard for actual rankers to get through because of blatant liars like us. And let's be honest, batch rank is the only equally attainable thing amongst everyone (internships can be secured through contacts, moots require money. publications can easily be plagiarised and copied.)

Can anyone let me know what are the salaries to be expected at the following private colleges/universtities at levels of AP, AssoP, and P?

a. JGLS

b. BITS Bombay

c. BML Munjal

d. Shiv Nadar Chennai

e. Any other private univ you think paying good sum.

You're an idiot for putting this on a forum. I think this is a troll but if this is true, I am genuinely dumbfounded by how stupid some people can be. You lied and got the fucking job, what makes you think it is needed to tell it to everyone, be it anonymously. You could've gotten away with it, but you blew it mate. Congratulations!!

Engineer software salaries are highly inflated also look at the firing in the tech industry the ones making 30lpa are top of the bracket. The best of best. Look at base salary and the taxes involved also lawyers make lot when they make partner meanwhile engineers don’t make as much in 40’s. Market for engineers is best at younger stages. The growth stops after a point.

Used to happen to me for being RW. Turns out, by the time we were in our fourth/fifth year with a PPO from a T1, same lot started coming to me for “guidance”. Btw, I also used to engage in class with leftie profs who used to downgrade me for being RW. Despite that I am doing better than the kids who used to suck up to profs

Hello,

I'm looking forward to giving the clerkship exam in 2025. Could someone guide me about how long study takes, prep material, benefits and options in case you don't clear the paper? Really need guidance as I am from a t2 nlu and no senior/batchmate is planning on this...

After putting this on LI, you have put yourself into the memes mentioned below:

1. Sidhu paaji saying - "Chah gaye guru" but replacing "A" in Chah with "U" and the last "H" with "D".

2. "Kalaiyo ka galat istemal" but "Kalaiyo" is replaced with "Dimaag"

3. "yeh wohi baat hui ki agar meri chachi ki munchhey hoti toh main use chacha kehta" - This line is for you, stating that you have a PPO regardless and think you earned it on merit. Yeah, marks are not part of your merit.

4. "Mushkil toh nahin keh sakte hain, tough zaroor hoga India ke liye" - After posting this, you would have thought ki iska answer mushkil nahi hai, par after it get posted, tumne khud ke liye ab tough kar diya hai.

Bhai, pata toh chal jaega. You have already given a filter criterion that your college doesn't maintain the records. Upper se, if you got a PPO or callback, it would be recent (Human tendency to find answer as soon as the things starts to get real). HRs and executives are active on Legally India. So, while LI will not give out your IP information, you have gained attention now, and it will get more attention as many students will be upset about what you did as while even they are not getting CAM, you got it through unethical means. Next time (hopefully if there is a next), try to stay silent about yourself, but just pray they don't find this thread or identify you through the information you have shared.

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We really need to be talking about this because it's the number one expense for people working in Mumbai.

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/trends/story/real-estate-is-a-scam-in-india-management-professionals-post-on-3-million-apartment-in-india-vs-us-goes-viral-452211-2024-11-01

I think Tarunabh Khaitan is more of a public law specialist than a core jurisprudential scholar. But I believe there is a dearth of scholars in legal philosophy in India. Only one I know of is Prof. Upendra Baxi who is sadly not on any social media handle let alone post a call for paper or presentation.

my friends and i have never held the same political views still we were able to remain the best of friends and have been so for a decade now. my entire personality is not based on my political views. we do have some arguments based on politics but as all of us have realized its futile therefore we try not to bring it into our conversation.

It seems you're asking the question for the wrong reasons. One hardly needs to be in a "community of scholars" to access things like call for papers. If that is all you wish to do, a simple search on google, twitter or elsewhere will do. Regardless, LI is not the place to be asking these questions.

As to your question generally, yes there are some Indian researchers working on jurisprudence, albeit very few. And yes, many of them are on twitter since nowadays that's the dominant platform for academics (although I sense many are migrating to bluesky).

Hi, first of all be thankful to heavens that you have a lot of time for preparation coz, KCO interviews are the toughest. So, start preparing extensive notes on your CV, cover all the basics related to your practice, publications, moots etc. For disputes be well versed with the procedure first CPC and then CrPC. My practice area is not disputes, so i dont know much but this is all that I have heard from my friends who have appeared for KCO interviews and I myself have appeared for a KCO interview for one of their corp teams (I was notified 3 days before the interview but fortunately pulled through).

Their interviews are very technical unlike other firms so prepare accordingly and do not slack off or take this lightly. All the best.

Hi, I have joined a regulatory practice, (electricity)in a specialized law chamber just after college, I sometimes feel, it is okay but sometimes I feel I won't get enough opportunities in the future. Will I be ever earning good, if I continue in this field like for 2-4 years? I didn't join litigation (civil/criminal) because I had financial issues and have to support my family. I am still not earning much but I want to know if I can in the future by staying in this niche? I come from a non-nlu so my chances of getting placed in big firms are negligible without good work experience, I think. Please someone suggest me the best route I can take??

There are universities in Kerala that start their payment from as low as 20000 for Net qualified people. There are top NLUs without any fellowships for PhD scholars. Getting a job without a PhD or a jugaad is almost impossible now. You saw that video of a research scholar selling Gobhi Manchurian- that's the state of research in India.

I have not found this to be true. I have seen people from average engineering colleges snag hefty remuneration offers, all because the likely consideration is one's merit and technical competency. It would make sense if we compare average corporate lawyers with average engineers. My opinion is a lot of them are making more money than us and that has mostly to do with the value of their work and them being able to also compete for jobs in the global market. They also have an easier leave system and wfh policy.

Bhai CTC mat dekh monthly unhe bhi waha milta hai jo corporate lawyers ko milta hai unless they are in quantitative trading and secondly salary hike is very high compared to MNC's equity partner banne ke baad to poochho mat even salaried partners earn in crores salary of corporate lawyers is only comparable with consultancy and investment banking this is said by an IIM alumni

It’s a tragedy that Modi didn’t implement his views on privatisation.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bibek-debroy-chairman-of-pms-economic-advisory-council-dies-at-69-6919418#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

The least DTC could have done is to make internships at the CJI office paid. Despite having a transparent selection process, the financial condition of candidates itself is a huge mitigating factor. So much for his speeches on increasing access and diversity in the legal profession, payment to first generation lawyers etc. All on principle and not in practice

I can speak for the Mumbai side of the turf since I have been at it for 6 years (also been privy to the state of affairs in the capacity of an intern): The firm wants people to have a work life balance and respects folks who have a life outside work to a very large extent. However, there are many partners who consciously make the choice of running their teams like a sweatshop after both - the money and designation have gone to their heads. In most cases, blaming the Partner is outright wrong for bad culture since the Counsels and Principals drive the direction of the ship to a very large extent. So, a tiny piece of advice would be to play your cards right with the Principals/Counsels as you start out without indulging in much ass-licking of your reporting Partners.

In the larger scheme of things, there are notorious teams with questionable people (as there exists in every firm) but remember to take each day one at a time to survive the marathon.

See you'll soon at One World Centre, Cheers and Happy Diwali!

I notfied my well profiled supervising partner, privately, over something glaring and problematic within the team (with the expectation that the issue would be meaningfully redressed). The insecurity around the issue prompted this person to settle me with a few months notice and full pay, effectively buying my silence. Finding a job thereafter has been impossible. I have grown tired giving interviews only to learn at the very end that it wont work out. This brings me to my question which is in the subject line.

If you have managed to develop a different view compared to your friends, that is wonderful because you are the sort of person who tends to succeed in life

Being able to form your own views and sustaining them in the face of popular opposition is how you grow in life, business, law practice

You cannot have the same belief as everyone else and achieve excellent or even above average results

Family run firm through and through, extremely nitpicky. They dont have a great clientele and the working environment is subpar. Extremely low pay and not much scope for growth within a firm at all. But definitely a nice bunch of people, and respectful in their dealings with people.

1. Know your CV like the back of your hand: You will have to know the basics of the acts that you are mentioning in your CV as well. For example, if you have worked on IBC in your past internships, you should be able to answer things like the waterfall mechanism, the difference between financial and operational creditors, etc, and any relevant section that you have mentioned in your CV.

2. Basics of Contract, Arbitration, Consti and CPC.

This should mostly be enough.

I have. Not for arguing cases mind you, for getting into alterations and being a bully. And the VC at the time was his uncle, and a lot of the people who shared the campus with him allege brazen favouritism. I don't understand if these articles are trying to highlight his glowing University career or underline a promising litigation practice. But quite frankly, other than these clearly self-written promotional pieces, I'm yet to see evidence of either.

Eh, no one who is in college now should be too sure of their politics. That includes you and your batchmates. Try not to talk politics for a term or so—you can still think, read, and mull over things you want, but constantly talking politics makes you dull and makes you view people only through ideology. Make friends with others who don't talk politics either. Talk about philosophy, ethics, music, movies, your careers, the law, sports, and whatever else.

Once the year is over you will realise that some of this was you being hyper focused on politics and others being hyper focused on politics. I have many friends across the political spectrum and did so while I was in college even when my batch largely split along political lines. The way to do it was to not talk politics and instead talk to people. If you want good friends- be a good friend. And avoid people who are making politics their entire identity, too.

From around when I was at NLS, Rahul Singh, Namita Wahi, and Aparna Chandra, are in academia in India. Rahul wasn't the topper but was in the top 5 for sure. The other two were 1st rankers. He and Namita went to Harvard, and Aparna went to Yale. Rahul and Aparna teach at NLS, and Namita works at CPR in Delhi.

Salary increases as you advance in your career. My friends in corp firms who started with 12 LPA 9 years ago are making more than four times that now, many are making even more and are partners. Unless you lifestyle creep to a crazy degree you’ll be able to save enough by 45/50 if you do a good job at the corp firm and get promoted on time and make smart career moves.