Because the innovation of NLUs wasnt actually the five year degree. Why would that be the case? Why would studying something for more years not make you better at it? The innovation of NLUS was- a) attracting students who were serious about their legal careers, these kids knew in their teens they wanted to be lawyers so it wasnt your typical law student that did a number of things before turning to the law as a last resort and b) at a time when state universities were circling the drain with politics and no good faculty and no academic rigor at all, NLUs decided not to do that. they decided to hire good faculty and impose academic rigor, for example- you had to have 75% attendance to write exams- rules that were barely enforced in state universities and still arent.

Just doing those things will get you to a certain place. But it wont make you competitive or rigorous as good multidisciplinary universities that also impose rigor. You realise the difference when you study at an Ivy or an Oxford. Their lawyers take courses in machine learning and design. They really learn in an interdisciplinary way- it's not just about tacking on a couple of social sciences articles to your lesson plan- it's about being able to learn entirely differently.

Even just something as basic as sociology. Indian law students hate the subject by and large and think they're burdened by learning it- but the truth is they just read some academic theory under the guise of sociology, they wouldnt know how to write or evaluate a sociological research paper, they wouldn't know how to interview a subject without getting argumentative or leading them on , they wouldn't know how to construct a survey or what a good sample size would be. theyre barely educated at anything beyond the law.

You have two courses in political science, and most people in Indian law schools don't know how to read a poll or what to make of a political science paper really. Don't even get me started on economics. Learning the coase theorem and supply and demand doesn't actually mean you understand the basics of how markets work or how countries develop.

So on a world stage- you really cannot compete with someone who had a good education in their BA and in their LLB. You won't get jobs at the World Bank, you won't get jobs teaching at Harvard law school, and you won't get jobs working at the UN. You barely even get hired by consulting firms because they want graduates who have been taught to use their brains and problem-solve rather than memorise and regurgitate case law. What most Indian law students end up doing- pushing paper at a law firm- is really all they are capable of doing. They're severely limited. A law degree is supposed to be a generalist degree that opens up all sorts of opportunities. But Indian law degrees are not that. Because there aren't good multidisciplinary universities.

It's hard to imagine something you haven't seen. That is probably why most Indian law school students dont understand what these sad excuses for social sciences courses are supposed to be imitating.

KCo without a doubt. CAM has a non-existent IP practice and half a team with hardly any IP experience. Have watched people leave CAM irrespective of the pay check and the work life balance in the IP team (since there was hardly ever any work) because there was no experience that they were gaining.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/amp/gallery/slow-and-steady-indias-gdp-growth-slows-down-virtual-world-roast-narendra-modi-government-photogallery/cid/2076088

The beginning of the end! Sure, Feku and Tax Tai could give us tax relief and boost the economy, through consumption, but it’s not so easy. The middle class will prefer to save extra money, rather than spend, because they have been suffering for so long. If these two think they can win elections through freebies alone and neglect the middle class, they are sorely mistaken.

I think we should get ready now for a Congress government in 2029.

I know you’re not actually scared of getting a disease that primarily affects children. So this is just about not wanting to go to office. How selfish is this? Do you realise the lockdowns tanked the world economy ? That can drivers and house cleaners and vegetable hawkers, store owners lost money they’d spent their lives saving because they had to bear the brunt of your luxury belief/ paranoia? How selfish can you be that you just want to avoid work that much even if it screws over the working class? You don’t have to do a job you dislike this much. Have some balls and quit. Don’t make your shitty decisions everyone else’s problem.

Sadly, showing off has become the whole purpose of life for young Indians, because of YOLO culture and FOMO culture. One travel influencer girl in India spent 50 lakhs in a year on travel, just to post reels. She is being celebrated in the media and SM for this, as if she is some sort of hero! See these articles:

https://www.news18.com/amp/viral/this-travel-content-creators-mantra-is-earn-save-spend-and-repeat-aa-9179561.html

https://www.ndtv.com/travel/viral-video-influencer-reveals-how-she-spent-more-than-rs-20-lakh-on-travel-in-2024-internet-reacts-7411823/amp/1

https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/travel-influencer-spends-rs-50-lakh-in-one-year-internet-asks-source-of-income-101736138541858-amp.html

If you are doubtful, you can start at SLSN for now and wait for other results. You can even start now first and then give clat again the next year. The workload in first year isn't much, only feels overwhelming since its all so new. If you keep your priorities straight and prepare well, you may very well get a better college

This is true, not being trollish (as this website likes to call it). In Mumbai this allows you to live very comfortably as a single person but if you’re supporting a partner and a kid it’s not that much money. 2 cr pre tax would also not be rich, it would be upper middle class.

There is competition in SLS as well. It's not exactly like you call them and ask them for a seat and they give it no questions asked. There is SLAT exam and then there is interview as well. People who get selected in both of them only get the seat. I don't know about the validity of this metric but apparently 20k people gave SLAT this year and there's only 1k seats or something. SLS is not a low hanging fruit anymore.

Ah! HPNLU been teaching you deliberate and malicious misconstruction, have they? The comment wasn't very well-worded, but yes, it remains applicable in some law schools in India, not all (NLS and one or two others being prominent exceptions), but certainly in HPNLU. And if the best you can do as an argument is to engage in name-calling, your dad shouldn't be wasting money in an LLM for you.

Please reflect on what you are saying. Obviously people need to be studying many hours a day in order to gain a thorough understanding of the law. But that doesn't mean randomly increasing class timings. Why not get them to do more reading in advance and have more seminar-style or tutorial-style smaller classes?

Literally all what they do is service agreements for schools, transfer of school assets, etc. it's all VERY STUPID work. It's not M&A. It's something totally random. No real billable work. People are just biding their time. This work will make you forget everything you learnt in your previous teams. Highly incompetent team. Dont go for it.

Just to sum up the changes in the past 6 months by the administration:
1) The academic block is closed post 7 pm (apart from there are no spaces in the university for committees to convene meetings or for students to prepare for moots)
2) "Tutorial classes" have been introduced to cover up for the mess in attendance
3) The examination policy is changed where the written exam will only consist of a 60 mark end sem paper, 15 marks for "attendance", 25 marks for project and viva, leaving a major portion of evaluation to the dicreation of professors.
4) Classes have been extended from 9 A.M to 8 P.M with no breaks in between. The hostel out timing is 8.30 P.M effectively leaving 30 minutes for any outside work a student has.
5) All shops on campus have been closed down including 2 shops in boys hostel, 1 shop in girls hostel and the laundry service.
6) The academic calender is pushed from semester ending on 1 May to ending on 6 May and from 1 Novemeber to 11 November for even and odd sems respectively. This has disturbed internship schedules of the students, many of whom have already got an internship from May 1.
7) No date has been announced for conducting exams left the previous semester.
8) The VC of the university has refused to meet with the student body for discussions on the pretext of technicality.

Just to sum up the changes in the past 6 months by the administration:
1) The academic block is closed post 7 pm (apart from there are no spaces in the university for committees to convene meetings or for students to prepare for moots)
2) "Tutorial classes" have been introduced to cover up for the mess in attendance
3) The examination policy is changed where the written exam will only consist of a 60 mark end sem paper, 15 marks for "attendance", 25 marks for project and viva, leaving a major portion of evaluation to the dicreation of professors.
4) Classes have been extended from 9 A.M to 8 P.M with no breaks in between. The hostel out timing is 8.30 P.M effectively leaving 30 minutes for any outside work a student has.
5) All shops on campus have been closed down including 2 shops in boys hostel, 1 shop in girls hostel and the laundry service.
6) The academic calender is pushed from semester ending on 1 May to ending on 6 May and from 1 Novemeber to 11 November for even and odd sems respectively. This has disturbed internship schedules of the students, many of whom have already got an internship from May 1.
7) No date has been announced for conducting exams left the previous semester.
8) The VC of the university has refused to meet with the student body for discussions on the pretext of technicality.

Can the person who voted this down grow some guts, publicly own the vote with her name and explain the reasoning behind the downvote? Do you deny that we treat workers badly and that this is an ingrained part of our culture? Or are you so brainwashed that honest criticism of our country is now propaganda?

Just like the best student may not be the best teacher, similarly the best teacher may not be the best VC. The primary reason being, that a VC is more a political and administrative post than any others. The amount of pull and push needed, to convince people in the govt to pay grants and funds, is huge. Especially since it's the third NLU of the state, like a 3rd child that parents didn't want, unless it was a boy.

One of those things are not like others. Bring Dalit or South Indian or whatever is immutable characteristic. Being unmarried is definitionally not. Why is this a prejudice and refusing to house folks who want a place to shoot up drugs not? Lawyers should know better than to draw false analogies.

I don’t have any problem with people doing whatever they want to whoever will have them behind closed doors. But that same logic extends to businesses. Maybe they don’t want to be involved in prostitution rackets, maybe they have some moral beliefs they want to express - that’s completely fair. They should be able to do that. It’s a free country.

Pyaar gunah hain is a nice turn of phrase, but it is a lie. No one is being sent to jail for being in an unmarried relationship. It’s not a crime. What is happening is that a business is deciding to act in accordance with the morality of the community that it serves. You have different morality ? Start your own business, if other people feel like you maybe your hotels will be more popular and OYO will drop this matter eventually. The same freedom that gives them the right to deny service gives you the right to start your own business and provide service.

I feel there should be a cap on central, state, IoEs and deemed University per state, according to the states resources and population. Have a minimum one central university per state, and let it subsume IITs, IIMs, aiims and NLUs. Give it the majority of funding by centre. Accordingly we get around 30 central universities, give and take. Now it's the central govts onus to make these 30 universities as top in QS rankings. Make the selection for students and teachers in this university as extremely stringent as possible, only the best of the best get in. State and deemed university can absorb the remaining students and faculties.

Start with basics, meaning and difference between capital and current account transactions (provided in FEMA Act 1999). These two terms make all difference for the nature of transactions.

Then start reading NDI rules, FDI policy, reporting regulations, RBI master direction and circular on FDI - for equity and related instruments transactions

To start with debt - read debt regulations, ECB directions, RBI master direction and circulars.

Other transactions which requires study of special regulations:

Import and export of services and goods - separate regulations are there for both + master directions

Overseas direct investment - ODI regime (rules, regulations and guidelines issued in 2022)

Practical tip: Get in touch with AD bankers for understanding above regulations, rules, etc. more practically. Assuming your firm would have data base for all ADs.

Follow above, you will be sorted for FEMA.

Hi all! I'm interested in joining counsel practice in the near future in Bombay. I'm not too sure about particular practice areas. I would appreciate any leads on counsels (along with contact number/email ID please) who may get designated in the next few years, with smaller chambers so I can get good exposure in both drafting and arguing. Thank you!

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https://theprint.in/opinion/standard-deviation/india-must-revise-its-definition-of-middle-class-those-earning-rs-1-cr-arent-rich-anymore/2434437/

I recently gave my PPO interview with SAM, Mumbai and the whole interview went smoothly so, I was optimistic that I cleared the interview rounds but unfortunately today, I received a rejected email stating that I did not clear their interviews rounds.

I'm puzzled by this because everything went smoothly during the interview. I have a decent CGPA and batch rank, coupled with a near perfect interview.

Can you guys help me figure out some of the reasons I didn't make it and what can I do now?

If true, absolutely disgraceful. We Indians love jumping on their diversity bandwagons justifiably in part, because at the end of the day, we are underrepresented in those firms. And what's the first thing we do when we land up there? Behave like their worst possible image of us.

When they believe in it, we laugh at them, as we should. I have lived in Europe for 3.5 years and haven't come across any such weird belief even once. Obviously they have their superiority complexes etc, but this is a serious other level of shit.

Oh and also, it is "Americans", not the word you used. Moderators, have you ever considered that this website might just get non-Indian visitors sometimes? You have redacting tools at your disposal, what are you doing? Sleeping and letting this auto-publish? And additionally, I thought the r word used at the start of this comment was one we agreed is out of bounds to use? We love being PC until it involves disabled people or people with mental health issues, is it?

I am just waiting for the day when the total fees will exceed ₹1 crore. It will be interesting to see who gets to this 'milestone' first - IIULER, BITSLaw, JGLS, or some state NLU.

Coming back to NLUJ - ₹60L is only the fee component. You still have to add hostel, mess, ancillary, personal expenses, and inflation for the entire 5 years. The total outflow for you would be around ₹70L conservatively. So tread carefully.

Hi,

Those in NLIU were shocked to receive the news that their beloved paratha man, a man who has held more responsibilities than the Moot Court Association and the PCC combined over the years has been un-alived under mysterious circumstances recently. Any update on whether its wildlife or was he m/dered ? Has the body been found?

A group of NALSAR seniors, who today love to flaunt their liberal and human rights credentials, were part of this "ghost ragging" gang. I wonder if it's considered "liberal" to rag juniors like this? Force them to get drunk and then pretend there are ghosts in the room?

Bindu Ronald used to teach in NUJS and was quite popular. Still remembered fondly by many. She is good but it remains to be seen how she can negotiate "the system" for better.

This also means that Sullu from NUJS loses out again. Is anyone keeping a count on his losses?

By the way, is it true that SKY was in the search committee?

I'd have asked this question slightly differently: how do you account for the fact that in other parts of the world (England, United States...), law schools in multidisciplinary settings has been a successful project, whereas in India, it doesn't seem to have worked so far? Also, why would it work now in India when it clearly hasn't done so before?

Then don't make it mandatory, and keep it optional. I don't there is a BCI mandate for tutorials as well. And most importantly, had you have the good or even decent faculties then would have taught well in regular classes. But Ved Ma'am/Rangin Sir/Sheela Ma'am, all you have is sub-par faculties from DU, who use the NLU tag aa a launch pad for their career. It takes two to tango and increasing the class hours won't do any justice to the kind of education you guys can impart. You are just on a way to copying other institutions without realising the stark difference between NLUO and other institutions. You are failing as a management and still on high horses and not ready to hear anyone. For you it's has become an ego battle where you feel you are the supreme leader of masses and no one can dare to say anything otherwise you keep the proctor in your pocket.

Reflect on your actions before it's too late.

There are recurring challenges - the attrition rate clearly reflects that. Communication is a problem. Expectations are to take responsibility of the work without really giving control to the associates. Micromanagement exists to an unimaginable level. There is no clarity in how things work and what is expected out of you. When you take charge of a matter and make decisions, it can be a problem because you acted without instructions (regardless of whether any damage occurred). When you don’t take charge because you fear consequences, it means you’re not being responsible for the matter. The team lives in constant confusion and anxiety.