Exactly a week, your result will be declared. After a week from declaration of results, if you clear it, you'll receive a mail asking your two preferred practice areas. You'll receive two test links based on your preferred practice areas. And then, you'll get to know your results within a week from attempting it.

Maybe it’s time to shift to WFH mode from now to July? Means people are not forced to go out in summer, less emissions from vehicles etc? And some of us can book an AirBnB in Lonavala or Ooty or Shimla or Jammu or Darjeeling and work from there? These places too are becoming warm, but less oppressive than our cities!

Competition over dating girls because of scarcity, RW-LW politics and losing in sports. These are the three top reasons for fights.

IMO none of these reasons are worth it. Re girls, just look beyond your campus. In fact, girls studying non-law courses are more interesting and you can go outside your ivory tower. Re politics, it’s a frickin farce. Whether BJP or Congress or Left, none of our politicians care about the country. Don’t take politics so seriously. Re sports, it’s the dumbest reason of all. There is always victory and defeat in sport. Also, please play civilised sports like tennis, squash or even cricket, instead of football (universal sport for chapris and racist hooligans).

The system is completely broken and disincentivises merit and academic excellence. Barring NLSIU, the faculty is mostly mediocre. When a rare good teacher with good qualifications comes along, he usually faces resentment from corrupt admin and colleagues. They also give him excess work and make him teach unrelated subjects. Then you have entitled and woke students demanding high grades for poor work. They also don’t pay attention in class and use AI for projects. Smartphones have fried their brains since childhood.

Why not go speak to the manager and ask how you can fix the situation? You can start by mentioning you notice the difference in work load between others and yourself and would like to take on something and also suggest that you will make a daily plan on whatever assignment she/he gives you and look forward to weekly feedback. Sometimes the easiest way is just to maturely address what most people don't like to talk about. Of course if you aren't able to make headway with this approach then maybe it is time to look.

Teachers should start doing the same no ? Put you on blast for every stupid thing you say in class, every gpt fraud

assignment, every instance of lying to get by while not doing the work. What’s good for the geese must be good for the gander right ?

They might be reluctant to change how they teach cause they’ve been around different educational institutions for years and have different insights into what works and what doesn’t work. And they might see through the nonsensical asks by students that would lower academic standards and turn the university into a paper mill that grant degrees

So much for conviction. Used to be that you believed in your positions so fervently that you wouldn’t back down from them. Today’s college students aren’t that - they shouldn’t be surprised that they’ve utterly failed in effecting change and they’re seen as useful idiots and laughed off by the mainstream.

At least Umar Khalid had the courage of his convictions to go to jail. There’s a person to admire at least for his honesty. Whatever these rich kids in fancy unis are - they aren’t that.

It’s disrespectful to ask others to play along with your quasi religious beliefs.

Queerphobic means as little to me as saying I’m Christian phobic because I won’t declare Christ is king.

Your preferred pronouns are your preferences. Not mine or anyone else’s. Other people get to speak what they want especially when it’s the truth.

What violence does misgendering lead to ? Words have to mean something! If “she/her” is too traumatising to you go to therapy and figure out why you think a woman is a horrible thing to be.

These were not peaceful protestors. They harassed Jewish students and faculty and refused to let them enter classrooms and parts of the university. They broke open and took over a university building and held a couple of janitors hostage until their demands were met. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Hi!

I saw that the discussion on NLS PhD was scattered over here. I thought I'll make a new thread specifically for it.

Pros:

1. Best supervisors (on paper ) : Sudhir has hired many good people, so you'll have good supervisors.

2. Quality: The final product that you'll have will be pretty good because of the rigor of the course.

3. Insights into working of NLS: You attend classes and you do some TAing or RAing. So you get a preliminary idea of how things work at NLS.

Cons:

1. Ever changing system: The rules and the system keeps on changing. Which rule will apply to you is mired in ambiguity.

2. Non responsive admin: There have been reports where people have mailed the university and heard back after an year or haven't heard back. Things are getting better on that front.

3. Extreme rigour of coursework: The coursework is extremely rigorous. A trimester of research methodology course, plus 2 other courses- core or elective, are essential to take. In addition, there's a requirement to become TA/RA or offer your own course.

I feel a lot of this could be done away with. There isn't a point of an year long coursework other than adding the stress. A person selected already has a good idea of the basics. Specific seminars on note taking, using research tools and statistics would be far more useful. Personal opinion.

4. Overworked supervisors: This creates a problem again. Everyone in NLS is overworked. It's just one subject to teach, but the rigour expected in the course is of a good level. And you've to finish it within 2.5 months. Plus, a lot of elements in a course now, like moots etc. make it even more rigorous. So, it will be a lot of time before your supervisor gets back to you.

I'm not getting into more controversial aspects of the PhD, because I feel that is an exception.

There is a general practice to name & shame teachers? First I'm hearing of it.

But even then, I find nothing wrong in students getting to rank teachers on various aspects. It's mostly the uptight, "I won't change how I teach, traditions matter" types who have never stepped into a courtroom but have some very strange visions flowing from Legally Blonde in how they need to conduct their classes.

*I describe that thread as "faltu" because Bangalore is not Singapore, London or New York, where you have multiple good law schools to choose from. It has one law school worth the name, NLSIU, and that one only. End of story, as far as I am concerned. You want stuff practically? There you are! HTH.

It is certainly not natural. It is imposed to a huge extent. Most of the PSUs and banks offering services demand that the customers speak in Hindi rather than their mothertongue. Public infra is being connected closely with Hindi even in states where Hindi is not the prevalent regional languages. People not knowing Hindi are being told to leave the country. Imposition does not only mean that you have to speak it on gunpoint. It is a simple argument. Hindi is the mother tongue of a group within the country. Nothing more than that. People not knowing it are not missing out on any great repository of knowledge etc. There is no reason why any Indian citizen will have to learn a third language other than their mother tongue and a common language. That common language should not be Hindi because that would give the group of people whose mother tongue is Hindi an unfair advantage. Hence it should be English especially given the usefulness of that language outside the country and it being the means to access a huge knowledge repository.

The lack of conviction is baffling. She takes no responsibility for her actions at all “ I’m just an absolute rando” “ screaming into the abyss that is social media”. If that’s how unserious you are your thinking and speech on such an emotive issue why on earth were you so convinced of your righteousness ? Why on earth would you jump on to bandwagons and sign petitions and support Hamas as if it is all meaningless, a fad, like being a BTS fangirl. How silly and coddled do you have to be to behave this way?

In any case absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It does not seem that NYT has really investigated what led to her visa being revoked. If she failed to disclose arrests- that is breaking the law. “I just sort of put no” is not a good excuse - how is a Fulbright scholar this unserious?

And all this drama about self deporting as if men from federal government were breaking down her door to assault her is nonsense. The record of what the ICE officer said seems like he was almost bored and exasperated - like a parent tired of their kid locking themselves in their room. Be a damn adult and learn how to handle a situation without devolving into histrionics.

There were women your age at the nova festival who were much more scared when men with guns came around and took them. There are women today in Gaza who are actually at risk of being harmed not just by the IDF but also by Hamas. You had a seemingly nice officer knock on your door offer you advice about not antagonising law enforcement and assure you that they will follow the legal process.

In any case I seriously doubt it’s just failing to disclose meaningless arrests. I find Ms Srinivasan an incredibly insincere and unreliable narrator and there might be more in her file that she hasn’t disclosed. It seems to be a pattern with these pro-Hamas folks that their stories just don’t add up. They seek to minimise their own actions when moments before they were soaking up the glory of being rebels. You cannot take Hamilton hall by force and then demand the university bring you food. Get a grip.

I would honestly respect her more if she stuck to her guns and said - I said what I said and did what I did and I think it was right.

Please be respectful and civil in your comments. They has stated their preferred pronouns, so we should respect that. Misgendering people, apart from being a source of trauma and violence, is also illegal in some countries. This thread is meant to discuss the legality of the US government's action against peaceful political protestors, it is not a forum to make queerphobic attacks against anyone.

I think there is one legitimate question here. Let us do a comparison to understand it.

As someone with experience of both UK and American law school environments, in addition to an Indian one, I have made this one observation: British law students are generally like their Indian counterparts, committed to law from a young age. Their American counterparts, though, obviously do a JD after at least an undergraduate degree. But they are more driven, mature and focussed on success and have very specific ideas of what success looks like. Many UK law students are also like that, but a surprising number are (or become) unsure of their career options while studying law.

Now assuming that the OP's accusation is true, why are Indian 3Y LLB folks less committed to their studies and career than their American counterparts?

As a WCC lawyer, I agree with this. India does not have specific anti-corruption laws addressing commercial bribery and foreign bribery. There is little incentive for companies to implement a robust ABAC framework, despite the PCA providing an 'adequate procedures' defense for corporations. The work is repetitive—even internal investigations are.

There are different ways to support a revolution. Armchair folks signing petitions are not unimportant because they help in shaping the public opinion, theoretically. I'm talking of movements in general, not in particular.

Eg: If Nepali professors and students in India had written more about Bhutan's treatment of Nepali citizens, we'd know more about them.

Agree. There was an example where an Insta influencer was seen participating in Palestine protests just for engagement, making KPop finger heart signs and pouting at the camera. When she was later confronted she said she had no idea of the conflict and generally came to support “peace and love”.

Good point. There should be an inquiry into how she got at least one of these scholarships while still being a student or alum of another university. One hopes that the award was transparent and that her parents are not influential IAS officers or anything like that.

On another note, who do these scholarships always go to left-wing people studying/researching on caste, Hindutva etc? Why not people who wish to study/research corporate finance or technology?

Some teachers need to be named and shamed. There was a teacher in NLS whom the students protested against about a decade ago. He made tasteless comments against a student who was sexually assaulted. Such teachers deserve to be shamed, not put on a pedestal and made resource persons.

Hi this is an A3 at a Top tier law firm would be becoming an SA soon . I am looking to.potentially move to slightly chill jobs at Inhouses , Banks or VC Funds . What are the potential options for me without taking a huge paycut ? Any recruiters I should.reach out to..What are the best paymasters for Lawyers in Inhouses ?

Leave it to Indians to compartmentalise learning into neat boxes and pretend that one is useful and the other is not. On the other hand, look at the US where people with BA can take up STEM positions and vice versa because they are mature enough to know that what matters the most is the rigor of one's learning.

Ah. We might have some agreement. I think if you can afford to go to study at these places with your own money. You shouldn’t be eligible for scholarships. Point blank. No Rhodes no inlaks no Fulbright no nothing. If you’re that wealthy - you don’t need the clique. That’s a stupid bratty reason to take money and opportunity away from someone who needs both.

The growth of Hindi across the subcontinent is natural. Hooligans aside, it has not been imposed by anyone on anyone. If Indians were actually that competent in imposing languages on each other, then you would not be writing here and worrying about the relevance of your language. The fact is, Indian languages are struggling because their own native speakers have not done the work to keep them culturally and economically relevant. When was the last time anyone called for who won the Sahitya Academy award in their language? When was the last time someone read novels in their mother tongue. You are blaming the wrong side, fellow.

I take no issue with what this person believes in. Whatever it is, fine by me. But I do have a question. What happened to putting theory into practice? Advocating for “Palestinian liberation” from the comfort of one's home in one of the richest universities is certainly easy and convenient instead of going out to Palestine directly and grappling with the violence that such an advocacy ends up justifying. The latter is perhaps a little discomforting for some of these folks who proudly proclaim themselves as professors of revolution but run away at the first sign of intimidation. So much for their alleged commitment. Shoved into spotlight and asked to justify their controversial positions and which have had very real consequences out there in the world, they can only moan that they are just a random, ordinary person going about their life. Such a pitiful sight.

The worst thing is not her positions in themselves but the utter lack of rigor in them. So-called scholars like these hardly do any original fact-finding or fieldwork. Theirs is a game of interpretation.

She is such a committed ideologue (with appropriate levels of moral righteousness) that in her master's thesis, she manages to accuse and condemn her own Brahmin ancestors in the process. Individuals like her are clever enough to present their work in a language that the orthodoxies of academia will happily approve. But, just think, can they survive a proper, civil debate over their claims without name-calling others?

"Don't know what these guys do anyway"

Toh bete ek month intern karne ke baad aise thread kyu banate ho?

In all seriousness, the following practices will be obsolete in the 10 years from now-

1. ECM for sure, Gen AI can replace all their templatized BS. Also B&F.

2. Tax has GOT to leave the lawyers and go to the CAs ffs.

3.M&A/ Funds will be reduced to research questions, procedural assistance, and legal opinion. Due diligence will be the out of human touch.

4. HR, except one lady in the front desk, all internal HR will be external.

5. Labour/ IPR should only see a surge as the Indian government is trampled by capitalism and India finally becomes a developed country, theres more than drafting here, so AI could be of less use.

6. Litigation will NOT be replaced by AI in 10-15 years. It will continue its victorian practices.

I agree with you and appreciate your critical perspective. Thanks for sharing that information regarding NLSIU. Regarding the NLSIU teacher I mentioned, my point is that he is really clutching at the straws here to justify something as destructive as group-based discrimination in the country. He is not just trying to make Indian jurisprudence on reservation coherent. He is also trying (in my view, insidiously) to make the underlying basis of reservation, which is blanket discrimination, as a moral/legitimate basis of policy. Now you are correct that he is free to do so. But my point is that he took the easy way out. He accepted the intellectual orthodoxies of his profession. It is a fact that it is practically impossible to argue in an Indian university against certain assumed positions/subjects of Indian state and society today, such as the underlying principle of reservation. I do not think the university exists solely to justify the ideational biases of the society in which it operates. It should aim for more than that.

Regarding IITD, I would request you to please consider that the faculty at their HSS department has consistently embraced the worst examples of critical theory in their academic work and pedagogy. The leading spokesperson of this is currently Prof. Dwivedi whose public pronouncements would be worth debating here if they were not so obviously born of her own partisan resentments. She had a major role in starting their new PG programme on culture, society, and thought where the faculty can now freely continue their indoctrination of students without rigor and with the stamp of an IIT, no less. They don't discuss in class what they disagree with. They simply label it as “problematic” or “misogynist” or whatever other adjective that puts others on the defensive. Those who are familiar with this pernicious critical ideology that divides humans into groups of domination and oppression can easily make out the anti-intellectualism of papers that talk about caste-based reparations or label an entire group, such as Brahmins in this case, as wholesale oppressors. There is no rigor/logic in these positions and they do not contribute to human knowledge. They confuse activism with intellect. They are just mimicking the fashions of the West because that is how a predominantly left-dominated academia rewards the groupthink of its members. Their research interests are hardly organic. In ten years, they will again borrow something from their counterparts in the West. Most of them don't even do any fieldwork to justify the outrageous claims in their publications.

Nobody cares about OG gang to be very honest. Manan and his minions seen to run the show now. And as Yash is a Senior Partner and has a host of clients he too is involved in the practice. Maybe OG gang is not happy as they are not able to terrorise and bully their juniors as they used to do earlier. Even the OG associates now like to work with Minions and not with some OG partners because of their toxicity. I can't name people but have seen pretty bad things happening on the floor.

Not the person you're replying to - but that's not an overstatement at all. That's literally the power of a great teacher. In my case, though, I remained in touch with some of such good teachers for much longer, even after the course ended. I am in touch with one of them till date - 5+ years later. Your comment makes me realise, I need to reach out to others too. Thanks.

Three federal immigration agents showed up at a Columbia University apartment searching for Ranjani Srinivasan, who had recently learned her student visa had been revoked. Ms. Srinivasan, an international student from India, did not open the door.

She was not home when the agents showed up again the next night, just hours before a former Columbia student living in campus housing, Mahmoud Khalil, was detained, roiling the university. Ms. Srinivasan packed a few belongings, left her cat behind with a friend and jumped on a flight to Canada at LaGuardia Airport.

When the agents returned a third time, this past Thursday night, and entered her apartment with a judicial warrant, she was gone.

“The atmosphere seemed so volatile and dangerous,” Ms. Srinivasan, 37, said on Friday in an interview with The New York Times, her first public remarks since leaving. “So I just made a quick decision.”

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The Department of Homeland Security issued a statement that characterized Ms. Srinivasan as a terrorist sympathizer and accused her of advocating violence and being “involved in activities supporting Hamas, a terrorist organization.” The department did not provide any evidence for its allegations.

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She said that her activity on social media had been mostly limited to liking or sharing posts that highlighted “human rights violations” in the war in Gaza. And she said that she had signed several open letters related to the war, including one by architecture scholars that called for “Palestinian liberation.”

“I’m just surprised that I’m a person of interest,” she said. “I’m kind of a rando, like, absolute rando,” she said, using slang for random.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/15/nyregion/columbia-student-kristi-noem-video.html

Note to OP and moderator: Ranjani uses “they” pronouns on her NYU page (link below) so the sentence “award her a degree” should be amended to “award them a degree.”

https://wagner.nyu.edu/community/faculty/ranjani-srinivasan

SJA tried to uninstall him in 2016. A certain star (chair) professor and his acolytes tried regime change when back-to-back SH allegations against SC judges by females NUJS interns surfaced in the media. Both times PIB was saved by a certain CJI. When the SJA railed against PIB in 2018, this ex-CJI had departed. Although the TMC apparatchiks are being rightly blamed, please do not forget the pushback from an influential section of Cal HC (and those who get elevated from here to SC). They desperately tried to keep PIB in chair. Although SJA outsmarted them then, the inquiries were killed off. They are also the same clique who brought in Lord Taluk and NKC and are unwilling to let the latter go unless a similar front wo/man is found.