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1 - Indus Law
2 - S&R
2 - CAM
1. Flashy stuff on your CV which recruiters in India or third countries might find tasty. One reason for that being the difficulty of the exam - see below at point 1 under 'Cons' for the other side of this argument.See further at point 3 under 'Cons' below for further details about the bad side of this.
2. Possibility of getting a TC or a lateral position out of it. Refer below to point 2 under 'Cons' to understand the flip side to this argument.
3. Qualifying as a solicitor with a reasonably high level of flexibility, including by working abroad - once again, read point 3 under the below section to understand the other side to this, too.
Cons:
1. Huge uncertainty: SQE failure rates are alarmingly high. System is almost set up for you to fail. Barriers to multiple attempts are huge: forking out something like ยฃ4000 per attempt. If you have a TC in place, even, the prospects are extremely scary. Firms (including magic circle ones) have been known to withdraw TC offers from people who fail on their first attempt. Others use the prospect of a delayed start date to the TC as a stick for SQE failure. That is, if your TC was due to start in January 2026, they threaten that if you fail the SQE, they will not withdraw your TC offer, but keep you hanging (i.e., unemployed) until January 2027 to start it. They (the SRA and their PR machine) claim that you can pass even by self-study, but that's a lot of hot air. Unless you are associated with one of the providers (like BPP or ULaw) and their SQE LLM courses, you won't be getting access to the best materials, anyway. And it's not a fantastic idea to enrole in those kinds of courses as a self-financed person, if you've already done an LLM, especially. Get your TC in the bag first, then get funded by your firm to do the SQE or SQE LLM prep course they want you to do.
2. Regarding the pro no. 2 listed above, that comes with a significant caveat - and this has a dual purpose, as also being the reason that self-funding your SQE (or SQE LLM) is a bad idea. The way the system currently works is that the law firms have very fixed arrangements, processes and ideas about which provider they will make you do your SQE prep with and which courses they consider to be value for money. Like in some so-called "SQE LLM" courses, which combine SQE prep with some aspects of an LLM (essentially an LLM-but-not-really-an-LLM), the uni offers you a certain number of electives (let us say five), and out of that, the firm offering a candidate a TC and funding them (funding for the SQE comes with the TC offer) prescribes three of the electives (they essentially say you should take electives a, b and c). Of course, this is based on the soundest commercial principles, i.e., the law firm's need for particular specialised knowledge. The catch with self-funding your SQE is that you may have the moving-room to take those five electives and not be dictated to about three of them, but if you take up the wrong electives, then you've got a serious problem, because you may not have the exact thing your target firm(s) want.
3. Again take the pro listed above - the flexibility. You can gain your admission to the roll of solicitors in England and Wales by undertaking work abroad under the supervision of a qualified solicitor in England and Wales who will be ready to certify that you satisfy the SRA competencies. Essentially, that's a flashy way of saying you can get your QWE abroad even. Now flip the argument to a certain extent. As that is the case, the hallowed and elite spaces of the magic circle or U.S. law firm's London office are even more hallowed and elitist. Essentially, a form of second-class citizenship: you have the title and the fancy paperwork, but not the substantive package that should come along with it - to work in the office of a magic circle or U.S. law firm's London office. Of course, they (the firms, that is) will argue that even British citizens who are qualified solicitors do not have any substantive right or entitlement to work in a top firm merely by virtue of their status of being a qualified solicitor. As far as that goes, that is right. But the British citizens do still get the chance to continue working in England and Wales, at perhaps less flashy firms. You, in comparison (unless you're a Brit yourself, of course), don't get that, most likely. That's because of the skilled work visa salary thresholds and visa sponsorship eligibility, which a high street firm or a bootique may not fulfil or be able to fulfil, which is why I have dubbed it 'second class citizenship'. So you'd be qualified as an English solicitor, with all the respect and stuff that commands abroad, without actually the right or ability to work in a UK law firm, if you just had a self-funded SQE under your belt, without the certainty (based on a TC offer given prior to you doing the SQE) that it will lead to a TC.
Of course, you might say that one must take the rough with the smooth and all that, and if you think that way, then props to you. But regardless of how you think, I hope this was helpful in some way.
Such things from other firms should also be brought to light.
Not that it makes any difference. The gulf between Tier 1 lawschools in the US and in India is so huge that it is a mockery to call NLSIU even the Georgetown of India, much less the Yale or Harvard!
Back in April, a firm I had previously interned with called me for an interview because the partner knew I was interested in working with them. The interview went well (at least in my view). It wasnโt very technical. It felt more like a conversation than a formal interview. They mostly asked HR-type questions, and towards the end, the partner even mentioned that if I received an offer elsewhere, I should let them know. Naturally, I took that as a positive sign.
They said theyโd get back to me by the end of May. When I followed up in the first week of June, HR said she would check with the partner and update me. Later, she told me that they were still interviewing other candidates but that I was free to explore other options.
I just donโt get it, why canโt law firms be honest? If they donโt intend to hire someone, why not just say it outright? Why keep someone hanging? These are the same people who will be looking for Associates later on because the same fresher they hired move away to greener pastures. I honestly liked the place and was fine with the salary they were offering, I am just disappointed
Alag kuch chahiye toh go to some random chamber and work on smuggling and confiscation cases boss.
https://www.legalcheek.com/2023/02/law-student-claims-tc-interview-offer-at-us-firms-london-office-was-rescinded-after-bofadeez-nutz-voicemail/
Also which is better work life balance wise? (I know law firms generally have bad wlb, but can someone tell comparatively)?
While the HR was supportive and the stipend is really good, the capital markets team was so toxic and non communicative for the work.
If anyone could help me regarding this, it would be greatly appreciated.
All the associates/senior associates/principal associates/partners, please help your fellow junior with regards to this.
Electives are an absolute joke. The IPC head (who also studied here lol) behaves like an insecure teenager with an unchecked ego and this has directly compromised placement opportunities. The handful of competent faculty members are either being pushed out or are leaving voluntarily, having recognised the sinking ship for what it is.
The campus itself is a nightmare, concrete and sand, a scorching 35ยฐC most of the year with no air conditioning, barely edible mess food that causes frequent food poisoning, and a non-teaching staff so hostile itโs as if they were hired specifically to make student life miserable. If youโre non Tamil, good luck. Whatโs truly tragic is that despite all this, TNNLU has attracted a few truly brilliant students over the years. But their achievements whether winning moots, publications, or placements, have come in spite of the university, not because of it. Every bit of success has been self-earned, often with the administration doing everything it can to obstruct rather than assist.
Before you consider joining, speak to some alumni. The successful ones are too busy erasing this place from their memory, and the unsuccessful ones are probably stuck here, teaching.
if anyone has any insights into how hiring takes place in khaitan disputes bombay - pls share
I wouldnโt fire the guy, just explain to him that he doesnโt need to be silly about taking legit earned leave to pursue whatever his hobbies are.
Also, their HR seems very junior on LinkIN. Any senior HR in their firm?
The Law Point- Manish (SAT team)
Finsec
Khaitan Sebi disputes team- Tomu Francis
Trilegal Sebi disputes team
All of them do very good work in mumbai
Can you think of any other university in India where students would unilaterally write to Jagdeep Dhankarโs office and retract an invitation? All because he supported a law which the Supreme Court has also not interfered with? And which now has some justification after the attacks on Hindus in Bangladesh?
Also curious how such rage disappears when it comes to seeking accountability from the admin or the state government.
Although our interactions were limited, what stood out to me wasnโt just his teaching (which was excellent), but his kindness as a person. There was an incident, something I would prefer not to detail, but during a hearing, he remembered something about me from two years ago and actively extended his support without even asking for it. That gesture stayed with me. That day, I saw beyond the professor and truly recognised the warmth and empathy he carries as a human being.
Also, he is very enthu, he ran several things in NALSAR from the front and back-end, which he should in NLS as well, but ofc, for next 2-3 years he should focus on completing his phD, publications and his research output which is lacking as of now as he did not do that for a long time, AND IT IS FINE.
now i'm thinking of switching lanes
Remember that the quality (and quantity) of work you do has the most impact on your final assessment. If no one from the team particularly remembers you or the work you did, they will not be inclined towards giving you a more permanent role.
At CAM: 38
At SAM: 40
At AZB: 38-40
At Trilegal: 42
At JSA: With everything - 35-40
1. llm - a. is it worth it to do an llm from india? even from nls? what are the opportunities that one gets through an nls llm? is it limited to academia, or do firms etc also hire?
b. llm abroad is scary because i donโt want to be a crore rs poorer and 2 years older to find myself jobless again. thoughts?
2. mba - is this really viable? what are the chances? any allied degrees i can look at?
https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/01/paralegal-barred-for-attempting-to-cover-up-missed-emails/
https://www.legalcheek.com/2025/01/pupil-barrister-suspended-over-skeleton-argument-with-striking-similarities-to-supervisors-own-work/
A different regulatory landscape, not all the fact patterns are identical, similar or analogous, but hopefully helpful and sources of inspiration.
just curious whether we have to go and ask for work or is it already allocated.this is my first tier 1 internship. in the past iโve had experiences where i was expected to keep asking for work as soon as i was done, it was considered rude to not proactively keep asking for work.
and in others, they just came up to me and gave it on my own, and when i was done they were like ok we, will let you know when we need you.
how does it work at cam?
should i be up and about, showing initiative, asking everyone for work.
or is it weird to do that?
pls help
If you bump this thread up over the weekend, I may be able to take out the time to add more things. All the best.