Akshat Agarwal

Why I Chose NLUD Over NLS

Posted by Akshat Agarwal on in Student life

With another round of CLAT and AILET exams drawing nearer, thousands of students will now have to decide where they want to spend the next five years of their lives learning the law. Below is my own experience of making a choice that raised eyebrows, almost a year ago.

The week preceding the 9th of June, 2013, was perhaps the longest of my life. The past month had been a whirlwind of unexpected good fortune as the result of one exam after another was released, and much to my (and others’) surprise, I had done quite well in all of them. While until two months ago I had been in the throes of insecurity that every Indian who writes his or her board exams goes through, wondering whether I would ever enter the gates of a half decent institution of higher education, I now had all three of my top choices in front of me, their hallowed portals invitingly open. I had managed to crack both the CLAT and the AILET, getting into the National Law School of India University, Bangalore (NLSIU) and the National Law University Delhi (NLUD) respectively. Furthermore, my board marks were sufficiently high for me to be eligible for a seat in St. Stephens College, to study History, my favourite subject. Now came the excruciatingly difficult choice: which of these great institutions to join, essentially giving up on two others that thousands of my peers had competed to get into. St. Stephens was disqualified first, following consultations with the parental units about the feasibility of a History degree, the scepticism over the efficacy of the Four Year Undergraduate Program (FYUP) to be implemented that year onwards at DU, and the many advantages of a professional degree. The contest remained between NLS and NLUD, the former the well-established, much revered Mecca of Indian legal education, the latter the young upstart with its star in the ascendant. After much consultation with elder and wiser individuals, immense and intense consideration and sleepless tossing and turning, I chose to let the deadline for reserving my spot at NLS pass me by on the 9th of June without doing so. Here are the reasons why, in no particular order:

We Are Young

There is something undeniably exciting about becoming part of something new and fast-growing. Only five years old at the time when I joined it, NLUD had produced only one batch, but in its short existence, had created quite a name for itself. From academics to debating to the jewel in the crown of any law school, mooting, NLUD had done phenomenally well. As a new law school, it is brimming with energy and drive, and under the leadership of our charismatic Vice Chancellor, Dr. Ranbir Singh, we have, and continue to, move onwards at a very impressive speed, with the top spot not too far. The student body itself is very enthusiastic and driven, with new groups and clubs coming up and working towards a bevy of different goals. NLUD has none of the stagnation and self-assured complacency that inevitably creeps into one’s mind when they know they are established and considered the best. To be a part of the growth of such an institution and be able to build it yourself is immensely attractive.

Show Me The Money

The sprawling campus and the amazingly well stocked library at NLUD are indicative of the wealth of the University. From the world class moot court hall to the enviable conference and meeting rooms, no expense has been spared to create a world class infrastructure for students. The legal education field being one which involves considerable expenses, it helps to be part of a law school that does not need to undertake great deliberations before spending its money for the furtherance of its student’s education. The fact that the college pays the entire expenses of participants in moot court competitions is very closely related to how well we have done in the same. This sort of generosity and willingness to spend money on worthy projects sets NLUD apart from all its competitors.

Home Is Where The Heart Is

Admittedly, this is a reason that might not apply to most, as it is personal, and to some people, stupid. However, the past year of law school has showed me how much of an advantage it is to be close to home. Having been a Delhite for the past eight years, I quite love this city. Being able to go to law school without having to catch a plane every time I want to come back home was a great draw. A legal degree is by no means an easy one, and can get very stressful and difficult. It helps immensely to be able to just catch a Metro and be back home, welcomed by home cooked food and the warmth of your parents. It allows one to unwind, relax and go back to work fighting fit. Moreover, the hundred tiny problems that accompany outstation students: laundry troubles, scrambling to go to the market, awkward forced interaction with some remote relatives who are your local guardians, are not something I have to worry about.

Location Location Location

New Delhi, being the capital of the country as well as the location of the Supreme Court, is the never centre of all things legal in India. Being able to study the law in a city so closely involved in its framing and interpretation is definitely an advantage. Internships are aplenty, with the most ambitious and talented amongst the students getting opportunities to work with Supreme Court lawyers. We also benefit from the close proximity of imminent persons of law and other fields of learning. In the past year itself, I have had the good fortune of listening to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, David Johnston, the Governor General of Canda, Prof. Timothy Endicott, the Dean at Oxford’s Law Faculty, and the venerable Ram Jethmalani, among others. NLUD’s greatest advantage, perhaps, is its location, an advantage that no other college can ever appropriate.

Second to None

In my (yet unconcluded) first year in NLUD, I have learnt that there is not a single solitary aspect where NLUD lags behind any other law school in this country in terms of providing its students with opportunities and facilities to do very well for themselves. The infrastructure, teachers and the kind of opportunities provided are second to none, and indeed much better than those at the older law schools. A driven, dedicated student is all it takes to make the best of what we are given and achieve success. Ultimately, it is upon us, as the students, to make what we may of what we have been given, and at NLUD, what is given is never inadequate.

Comments

A 20 Apr 2014, 09:46
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Two more reasons:

1. NLUD faculty is better
2. NLSIU is tough to adjust to for students not from South India
NALSARITE 20 Apr 2014, 09:55
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you chose NLUD only for one reason; that you are a delihite. I know a lot of people who had the same choice as you they chose NLS without even an iota of doubt in their minds. I myself chose NALSAR over NLUD this year and have no regrets. the truth is NLUD is good but comparing it to top 4 would be stretching it a bit.
Siddharth Gupta 20 Apr 2014, 09:58
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Well written post.Although I do have a question.The placement record for the first two batches(The batch that passed out and the one that shall) hasn't been as good as the top 3 CLAT law schools. How did you factor that in?
akshat74 20 Apr 2014, 10:04
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A, both are valid points. The faculty at NLUD has some of the best people in legal education in this country, and it's still expanding.
As for the second point, I've heard that too from friends who joined NLS, but somehow I don't count that as much of a deterrent for most people. What I wrote about being close to home, though, applies there. Going to NLS would mean being over two and a half thousand kilometers away from home and all the benefits that come with it.
Anuja. S. 20 Apr 2014, 10:04
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:) Nicely written!!
bunny 20 Apr 2014, 10:08
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very well written + valid points!
Erm. No. 20 Apr 2014, 10:44
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I don't mean to ruin your parade, but.

1. If you made your choice based on being part of building a young institution or being part of an already big institution, you made the wrong choice. I'll give you an example: You got into Harvard Law School (an already established college which is also one of the best in the world) and Singapore Management University (an exciting and growing university but just not as good), you'd pick Harvard any day. Further, this opportunity of helping to build (as you call it) an institution exists whether the institution is young or not.

2. I agree, NLS neither has the best looking nor the most modern campus, but the question of being modern or beautiful shouldn't change the quality of education in either college. NLS has the best Law library in the country (which incidentally, is also very beautiful and modern). Also, more interestingly, in 2 years, NLS will have a seven-storied academic block which is supposed to be 'modern'. There, they showed you the money too.

I don't know your personal background but living away from home is always a great experience. But I agree, this one can't be argued with.

4. Agreed. Location is important. But if it's only because you get brilliant people to come down to lecture, it doesn't help as much as you say it does. In the past month itself, NLS had KK Venugopal, Soli Sorabjee, Ram Jethmalani, Former Chief Justice of India, Babu Rajendra to come down and deliver lectures. NLS has enough reputation to get these people down to speak.

Moreover, as far as internships go, NLS has two very very big advantages. One, all the big Corp Law firms have at least 3 alum as partners. This gets us more internships and jobs than everyone else. Two, we have holidays in the most random times in the year (January to March). This helps us secure internships without any competition from any other college.

Finally, a driven student from any college has the capacity to make it big. The opportunities that NLS and NLUD give us just make it much much much simpler. It is my submission that NLS, at this point in time, gives more opportunities than ANY other college in India.
akshat74 20 Apr 2014, 10:45
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NALSARite, being from Delhi was definitely one of my reasons, as I have mentioned in the post. However, being from outside Delhi does not vitiate the other reasons I have given in the very same post. The choice I made is definitely unconventional and I understand why most would not want to 'take a risk'.
As for the comparison, I'd like to wait till the time I'm closer to passing out to really assess where NLUD stands :)

Siddharth, recruitment is bound to be slow to begin with in the first couple of years of any institute, especially with stalwarts already established. However, its only increases each year, and I anticipate that it will be at par with any other National Law University by the time I pass out in 2018.
akshat74 20 Apr 2014, 11:10
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Thank you for your response. I don't think the difference between NLS and NLUD is comparable to the difference between Harvard Law and SMU. While there is definitely a gap between the two in status quo, I anticipate that this will narrow every successive year. NLS is a great institution, no doubt, but it's also vital to remember the vast head start it had by virtue of being the oldest in the country.
I made my choice not on any single one of the factors, but all of them combined, and I have said time and again that it isn't a choice I think everyone should make. It was just the best choice for me, and I still feel that way, almost a year into making it. I'd like to see my college grow, and I assure you that my parade hasn't been rained on or ruined. Thanks again for your rejoinders!
TaartTeacher 20 Apr 2014, 11:10
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Good faculty, eh? *cough* contracts *cough* torts *cough*
Guest 2017 20 Apr 2014, 11:26
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Aspirant 20 Apr 2014, 11:45
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The article seems to me to be more emotional than rational. I am in no place to make this decision myself, being a mere aspirant, but the idea of joining a younger university seems absurd, as does the idea that NLUD is somehow better funded. Other colleges have better campuses without a doubt, and also sponsor their students. At any rate, neither of those give it any discernible advantage over NLSIU. I understand wanting to stay close to home - I, myself, am from north India and the idea of staying in wondefully familiar Delhi is appealing - but I feel exposure to a new style of life, especially the south Indian way, can only help broaden my horizons. The locational advantage is rendered null and void because NLS gets the best guest lecturers, and also because you aren't going to be interning while college is on anyway. You'll only do so when you have vacations, and somebody from Bangalore can intern at Delhi just as easily then. The fifth point is half sweeping generalisation - second to none in any aspect - and half true for any college, that is the part which says you can do well if you are driven.
I enjoyed reading it, but I'm afraid I did not find it very well done.
Aarant 20 Apr 2014, 11:45
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Very well written :)
Blah 20 Apr 2014, 11:59
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I really want to believe you. But the only thing I can understand in that you like Delhi. Not a very convincing post.
BLUNDER 20 Apr 2014, 15:54
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NLUD placements are poor.
http://www.legallyindia.com/201404174613/Law-schools/nlu-delhi-12-day-zero-offers-10-jobs-in-bag-3-foreign-vac-schemes-for-2015-batch

Please don't commit the blunder of choosing NLUD over NLSIU/NALSAR/NUJS.
NLS ASPIRANT 20 Apr 2014, 16:52
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33 > 10. Ipso facto. YOU cannot blame NLS For a headstart. and the submissions you used to prove your point makes me believe that it was a wrong choice on your part. as a budding lawyer, you should argue on facts and point of laws, not emotions. give me placement statistics and mpl data .
AnonNLSstudent 20 Apr 2014, 18:45
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The main point here is that you're one of those Delhites who are too scared to leave home and just unwilling to break your shell. None of the other reasons stated justify your choice. But your decision I appreciate because instead of going to NLS and crying for home there, you stayed put and allowed another, more willing person to come in your place.
akshat74 21 Apr 2014, 01:01
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I find it hilarious that you are so moved by my decision that you feel the need to make a personal attack on me for it. Surely the best law school in the country can do a little more for the moral and emotional growth of their students so they don't get affronted enough by a choice that was someone else's and didn't concern them to go to the trouble of anonymously attacking them.
NLS ASPIRANT 21 Apr 2014, 05:44
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just answer this- why did you feel the need to write this blog ? remember, 99% of students who go to NLUD are those who fail to get a seat in NLS, Nalsar or NUJS.
akshat74 21 Apr 2014, 06:29
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Do check your source for those statistics. I know people in my own batch at NLUD who got into NALSAR and NUJS (Multiple people actually)
I wrote it to dispel the exact sort of ignorance that leads you to say 99% of us didn't get in elsewhere.
Legal Reporter 21 Apr 2014, 09:34
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Pragmatix 21 Apr 2014, 10:16
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This is a courageous decision to choose NLU Delhi over NLSIU but the reasons given seem mostly emotional and somewhat immature in this day and age. Other than faculty where NLU D has a real edge and the leadership (where NLSIU has a real moron at the helm) there is nothing else where NLU D would realistically be better than NLSIU. At the end of the day, NLSIU has a time tested brand, stellar placements, good if not great campus (w library), great student body, and strong alumni links which open many doors. It may be possible to choose NLU D and work superhumanly hard and be very lucky to make up for the lack of all of this but why do it? The option of 'institution-building' is a bit of a romantic idea, like the first line of hoplites in a greek phalanx. There is no point in forfeiting a better option and choosing another where there is great risk and odds of failure are high. The best word to describe this is...masochism.
NLS ASPIRANT 21 Apr 2014, 12:08
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BUT no one except you left NLSIU, right ? and what is the alumni base of NLUD ? dude, at this point of time NLS is far ahead of NLUD. and why is NLUD not joining CLAT if it is doing so well ?
NLS 21 Apr 2014, 12:56
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NLU-D Faculty: Most of them are NLS graduates. Might come back to their alma-mater. Just saying.
NLS Campus: You should consider the fact that most of the campus was 25 built years ago and it is expanding. They are improving it. We are happy with whatever infrastructure we have.
Umm,, 21 Apr 2014, 13:53
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NLS Aspirant, I know people in NUJS who are miserable and have tried time and have repeatedly tried to get into NLUD instead. So don't make up stuff just because you think NLUD isn't that good.
akshat74 21 Apr 2014, 14:09
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Let me reinforce that this is not an NLUD vs. NLS post. I do not berate or disrespect NLS in any way in my article, nor do I say that people should choose one over the other. I'm merely talking about the reasons why I made a choice that is, as the many comments here testify, unconventional and controversial. What is beyond me is the aggression in the comments from NLS Aspirants and students.
Pragmatix 21 Apr 2014, 14:54
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Dear, it is not aggression, it is just disbelief. Your choice is so naive or rather so contrarian for the wrong reasons that people cannot believe whether you are pulling their leg. Aspirants, students and alumni from all law schools know deep inside that there is no comparison between even NALSAR or NUJS with NLSIU, leave aside NLU Delhi. Today you are feeling good in your batch for having 'rejected' NLSIU and people may pat you on the back and make you the NLU Poster Boy. After 5-7 years down the line if god forbid you have difficulty with placement or lack of opportunities due to NLU Delhi this contrary choice will not be able to help you in any way. It won't be so "cool" then.
akshat74 21 Apr 2014, 15:05
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Oh I can tell the difference between disbelief and aggression, and some of these comments fall squarely within the second category. I don't think it makes me 'cool' or a maverick, and I don't expect to be the poster boy, and frankly, nobody cares enough to do that. Again, you're assuming I did it to be cool and you're assigning reasons to my decision that I never used myself. Perhaps come off the high horse a little? I do not feel cool or smug, it was just a choice I made. If only you could understand that.
NLS SABKA DADDY HAI. 21 Apr 2014, 15:44
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this guy went to NLU-D SO that when the seniors ask him his claim to fame during the positive interaction session, he could boast that he dumped NLS for NLU-D.
Noojie 21 Apr 2014, 16:55
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Oh God. The boy is simply listing his reasons. It might help some students. It might not. He, not for a second, is saying that at this point in time NLUD is better. There is NO DOUBT that NLS is better right now. That DOES NOT take away from the fact that NLUD is faring well. Yes, the placements aren't as good- OBVIOUSLY. It's a new college. The difference he's trying to point is, um, similar to PE and VC. Going to NLS is like a PE investment, while choosing NLUD is like a VC investment. People who demand stability- pick NLS. It is a brilliant college, and will continue to be so. But people who have the spirit to take the RISK- NLUD might not disappoint them. I'm in NUJS, batch of 2016- and I have many friends in NLUD (Batch of 2016) - I know it for a fact that at least 20 of them picked NLUD over the 'top three'. I, got through NUJS, wrote the AILET again next year- in the hope of getting through- sadly I couldn't.
This is not a inter-college fight. As a law aspirant, you all might want to understand why so many people pick NLUD. It's not because they are sissies or mama's boys. They see potential. And are not afraid to take the chance.
Noojie 21 Apr 2014, 16:57
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By potential, I mean, the potential of it being the next big thing. As a part of a growing institution, you get to take a lot of initiatives. You are a part of a new business. You are responsible for it. There is nothing set in such a college. You MAKE the path. It's an exciting place to study in, in my opinion.
Pragmatix 21 Apr 2014, 19:30
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Quote from akshat74

"Oh I can tell the difference between disbelief and aggression, and some of these comments fall squarely within the second category. I don't think it makes me 'cool' or a maverick, and I don't expect to be the poster boy, and frankly, nobody cares enough to do that. Again, you're assuming I did it to be cool and you're assigning reasons to my decision that I never used myself. Perhaps come off the high horse a little? I do not feel cool or smug, it was just a choice I made. If only you could understand that."

Well ... having once been an immature kid myself I can understand if one of the factors that led to your choosing NLUD over NLSIU was the thought that you could always carry a small chip on your shoulder. But since you say that is not the case, I can assure you as someone who has spent a decade in the profession and who has had ample time to review and watch all these law schools and who has no reason to get into a mine-is-bigger-than-yours argument that the choice was most certainly a foolhardy one. To use a crude example, its like a aspiring cricketer from Bengal choosing the Bangladesh cricket team over Australia for naive reasons like Bangladesh being closer to home, they speak a common language, etc.
NLU-D THE FRAUDSTERS 21 Apr 2014, 19:33
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the same college which was thrown out of a moot competition for cheating. pathetic man.
Anonymous 566 21 Apr 2014, 20:04
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I don't think any of the points Akshat was making are invalid at all. One's material performance at college is heavily contingent on your standard of living. The happier you are, the more likely you are to focus on disciplinary and extra-curricular excellence. Having to not be perturbed by things like laundry, and cultural security are an unmatchable, and often an ineffable asset. Either way, five years isn't a small proportion of one's life, and you'd want to live well, if only for the pleasure of eating good kebabs and travelling in half-decent public transport. If you really study at NLS, only dishonesty would compel you to say that Nagarbhavi is anything short of a South Indian Rithala, or that Bangalore is a friendly city for a low-budget student with antecedents in the Gangetic plains.
Also, I must sympathize with the cosseted nature of your household if it's enough of a reason to make you crave the sort of autonomy only living a thousand miles away would afford.
You're being disingenuous if you think things at NLS are going fine. The quality of the faculty at NLUD is incomparable; some of the teachers at NLS can barely speak better English than the administrative staff at the college. The students have settled in to this malaise where they're content with an effective mastering of the marks-based system, and mediocrity abounds.
Akshat was merely driving home the point, that given his particular circumstances and priorities, NLUD seemed like a fair choice; not that this operates as a uniform rule. It bespeaks your lack of intelligence that you think there exists such a universal pecking order. Also, in my own humble opinion, I think it's cravenly for someone to resort to a personal barb at the author only because your superiority complex was disturbed with a contrarian opinion.
John Doe 22 Apr 2014, 05:04
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The article is simply emotional and not rational. Comparing NLS to NLUD is simply stupid. We all make mistakes but, we don't boast about it.
green lantern 22 Apr 2014, 09:08
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a young institution is a good place to be if you are an employee of a start-up [growth opportunities, esops etc] the same analogy simply does not hold true for an acadaemic institution for reasons that are so plain esp that in a start-up an employee can more validly claim to have contributed to the growth of the company- that may be true of a chancellor of a young university but not of a single student. admit it: there is a love interest in delhi.
The Merchant of 'Mir 22 Apr 2014, 21:14
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It is laughable that placement data and MPL rankings are thrown in the mix. Metrically, NLUD's placement data cannot be compared to NLS/NALSAR/NUJS because of the absence of PPOs as most of the assessment internships are going to happen this summer. As far as MPL data is concerned, it is variable and does not represent a college's long term growth pattern. Case in point: NLIU Bhopal.
Celozzi 22 Apr 2014, 21:16
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A qualitative assessment of various factors results in,

Infra: NLUD
Placements: NLS
Student Crowd: NLS (Assuming that ranks indicate better crowd)
Faculty: NLUD
Ex-Nludian 23 Apr 2014, 12:17
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hello akshat..I am an ex-NLUD student..being from the 1st batch and spent 5 years there I think I am in a position to say that you have not made a bad choice. The current faculty is just amazing from mrinal to aparna to anup..everybody is just awesome. I concede that during my time this was a low-point of NLUD. But now RS has really brought the standards up. Plus opportunities like insaaf are surely going to hone the students' extra-curricular skills. we being the first batch and not having a strong alumni network may have failed to secure an equivalent placement as the top 3 but rest assured that by the time you pass out..there will be no dearth of placements( subject to the economy and availability of course).
Anindita Mukherjee 24 Apr 2014, 03:29
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You just can't place NLUD in the same league as NLS and NALSAR or even NUJS for that matter. These schools might be older but the reason they remain at the top is because they're constantly evolving over time. NLUD has not faced the test of time yet, but the other reasons too seem quite superficial. NLS and NALSAR have excellent libraries and are well stocked with respect to money.

The article keeps driving us to believe that you chose to stay there as it was closer to home.
12 student 24 Apr 2014, 20:35
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Can any body tell which school is better for judiciary!!
Richa a 25 Apr 2014, 13:05
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I'm intrigued not so much by the post but by the comments afterwards. I,m probably 3 times the age if not more than all nlud or whatever aspirants but even in our times we were encouraged to make our own choices and no one judged us for the same esp not peers. I would have thought today's youngsters would be more open and non judgemental.
Why can u not express views simply because you want to.
Nandini 1 Apr 2016, 09:57
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I'm surprised by your level of achievement! I'm in 10th standard right now and I was aspiring to get into Bangalore until I read this,as I'm from Delhi too. Could you suggest some way to prepare for the exams wisely?
ArmaanG 22 Feb 2017, 00:49
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What points do we have to keeepp in mind while giving AILET or CLAT?
While attempting the exam we face a lot of anxiety and are not able to do well or upto our expectations.
waiting for a reply :)