Well don’t feel bad. NLU is mere stamp. I have seen some intelligent NLU grads and some equally stupid ones who God knows how ended up there. But remember, these moron NLUites get a job because of the stamp as they are unable to string two coherent sentences in English together.

Haha. Both of you are clearly suffering from denial. The thread author is someone who is too cozy in Delhi but did not manage NLUD. Now, after rejecting NLUJ, he his trying to justify himself so that he does not feel bad. Poster #2 is a (top tier) NLU reject who is only too happy add on this person’s misery.

As for the actual post, I’ll really give you an honest answer. The only ‘prestigious’ universities you can be studying in are a) Amity Law School, Delhi; b) Symbiosis Law School, Noida; or c) Some IP college. See, lower level NLUs are indeed just a stamp. However, NLUJ is a really good law school. I have visited the campus multiple times for fetes and the atmosphere is lively, the people vibrant. The quality of students is far better at NLUJ than ALS-D, if you are looking for academic integrity and intellect instead of your typical Delhi crowd - rich good for nothings and armchair intellectuals. Yes, you will party a bit more at ALSD than NLUJ but in the long run, from the perspective of self development, a college like NLUJ is far better. I belong to a college better than NLUJ and I have seen the difference between students from top tier law schools and others. NLU students tend to be more proactive and informed. Your loss is somebody’s gain. ALSD is not a bad place. However, the people are… not very engaged in activities. It would be familiar to you if you have already studied at a good Delhi school. If you really want a good college where your mind is engaged along with the city of Delhi, try for NLUD next year. Good luck.

My post is riddled with grammatical errors. I hope that it is still serviceable. Focus on the content, please.

Get a life. Is it necessary to be delusional and run others down to prove your worth? If I could (sigh) tell where I studied or where I work, opinionated losers like you would be flooding me with their resumes.

Get well soon, dear. And pray continue your tirade, it is mildly entertaining on a long work day!

Well, you don’t belong to an NLU, right? So unless you do not study in India, it is automatically inferable that your institution ranks below NLUJ at least.

Wow. So you got a job at a time when most of the lower NLUs were just beginning and competition was not cutthroat. Great work, man. Really ingenious. The fact that you seek to support the thread author’s choice makes everything clear. “They can’t string a sentence together”… and you talk about running others down? Mr. Hypocrisy, snap back to reality. And by the way, nice attempt at a comeback. Too bad it failed.

To the Author: You have no reason to feel bad whatsoever. The aunties and uncles are an inevitable part of life. They would have given lectures asking why were not in NLS anyway. I rejected an NLU myself. I got admission in NUJS some years back. The cramped campus and the humidity sent me scampering back within a month. And trust me, being a mumbaikar, I am used to cramped spaces. Yes, I gave my personal comfort priority over NUJS. And the hype is just hype, we didn’t have proper classes, most of my classmates were too high to notice, and the teachers never bothered. I studied in a good institution in Mumbai, and now I work at a reputed law firm, for a salary that’d make these snobbish NLU grads salivate. As you said, Jethmalani wasn’t a NLU grad, and being one is no guarantee of success. Remember, these institutes take you in on the basis of your ability to calculate the speed at which water tanks fill up.

To “n00bpwnr” : You’re a geezer that got into a NLU and now think of yourself as the single most prime specimen of humankind to have graced this earth. Delusional, you are. I know NALSAR grads who graduated the same year as me, work for a pittance organizing files, so don’t get too cocky for you might have to email resumes to the author one day. Since we’re being nitpicky here, I’ll breakdown your first reply:

1. What’s wrong with being cozy in Delhi? Delhi is the most happening place when it comes to the Legal Profession or even otherwise.

2. Does the author sound miserable to you? He wasn’t kicked out. He rejected it, see? I did the same a few years ago, and trust me, miserable was the last feeling on my mind.

3. You generalized every single Delhi-ite. Wow. All the rich people in Delhi did not become rich by squatting in a swamp.

4. Really? Armchair Intellectuals? Isn’t the irony killing you?

5. A college BETTER than NLUJ? So you’re one of those weirdos that goes around rating NLUs.

6. This one was just plain hilarious. Law students in Delhi are not very active. Seriously, I am amazed at your awareness of your surroundings. Is this because you haven’t had any people from Delhi visiting your law school? Do you realize this is probably because they don’t need to, when they practically live in the power-hub of India?

As for the second reply, LOL. You’re foaming at the mouth aren’t you? ” And by the way, nice attempt at a comeback. Too bad it failed.” See if they have a role for you in Mean Girls 2.

I’ll tell you this kid, NLUs are no where near what they are hyped to be. Not all of them anyway. Druggies in NLUJ, ONE law teacher in NUJS, The list is endless. Every place has its problems, the NLUs are no exception. Success in this career does not depend on your college. If you get a job at a law firm and mess up on your first day, you won’t get any less flak for being from NLS. Congrats on making it into a NLU by mugging up dates, just don’t go around proclaiming your superiority. That’s best left for losers.

There’s already been enough vaguely amusing posturing from both sides, as expected on an NLU vs non-NLU thread. Tiring to read because it’s so repetitive and so pointless; so I am here to point a couple of things out that really stand out to me, but do not appear to have been mentioned yet. (I went to an older NLU, full disclosure.) Consider the following:

1. CROWD:

most people tend to focus on ‘making’ it into an NLU and point out that it is not too hard. I agree; I am from a pre-CLAT batch and occasionally I am amazed at the pedestrian intellect that seemed to have prepared the paper. However IMO it is not the fact of making an NLU that is important, but actually going to it.

Take as example the case of a friend of mine and myself. Neither of us are dimwits. We are both reasonably lazy and reasonably bright. I made it to a (good, older) NLU and she did not. I found that several more opportunities were made available to me than to her while in college. I also found that my work ethic, competitiveness grew while hers stagnated (in comparison) because her peer group was not as hyper-aware or as hyper-competitive as was mine. She lazed, as would I have if I had not been in an NLU and been literally FORCED to keep up with law news, law blogs, paper-writing, research and constant testing.

We all are driven and benefited by our peer groups. While the students at non-NLUs (or older NLUs) are certainly likely to be as intelligent as NLU-ites, it is not AS common for the peer group to be as driven as those in the older NLUs. The competition is cutthroat. I am aware of some exceptions and I am pleased for them; in my observation however it is not common to see them.

As things turned out, I ended up (with an above average but unspectacular GPA) at a law firm, earn enough that I don’t have to ‘salivate’ at the salary of the charming chap who posted above. My friend is still actually struggling to find a job and it does not make me happy - it makes me worried for her. Make your choices carefully.

I must note that NLUs are indeed full of so-called ‘junkies’, some of whom are high-performing and some of whom are not. Many (in my observation, most) of those junkies are brainy and hold incredibly well-paid positions at reputed firms today. Many of those are still stoned in Manali. Pick your friends well.

2. CHOICE:

I made several friends in law school. Several of them are in excellent law firms. Most are happy with their choice - because it was just that. a CHOICE. They were free to pursue a completely different route if they so wished and make money in the deal as well. I have friends who work for wings of the UN, for international dispute settlement bodies, are academics who write for the most reputed international thinktanks and research insitutes in the world. They were not cut out for law firms and chose these lives instead. Now they are happy. Even those who began startups are taking advantage of the excellent NLU network to make good money.

Can you honestly tell me that if you discover in your 5 years that the firm life is not for you, that you can choose to take up a job at the UN/WTO/…? It may be possible to do the same from a non-(old) NLU. I am have never seen it happen.

Remember that a goo institution is spposed to give you choices. If you are left with no real choice but to work in a firm or at best fend for yourself and join any old lawyer’s chambers (assuming you don’t have ‘pull’) then your law school has failed you. If you want to work in a firm, fine. I do. If you want to litigate, ok. But if you want to be a researcher or work in international law, best of luck. I am not optimistic.

3. NETWORK:

One of the primary points of joining a reputed school is the network it brings you. NLUs are often like an impenetrable insiders’ club, which is suffocating when you are in college, but invaluable once you are out of it. As I said, I am not brilliant in any way, nor was i too social in law school, but all it took was 2 pleasantly short phone calls for me to shift smoothly from one great firm job to another one. With the right network, the possibilities are endless.

And I know that of which I speak: my mother is an IAS officer. Now that’s a network.

NLUJ is a good school and can offer you most of what is above. Now that you have left it, I bid you consider the above points anyway, have a good time, work hard and do well.

Let this geezer give you some solid advice.

1) “What’s wrong with being cozy in Delhi?”

Well, being from Delhi myself, I would look down on anyone who left a good NLU (not every NLU, a GOOD one) for a laid back college like Amity Law School/IP/Symbi Noida.

2) “Does the author sound miserable to you?”

I”ll be honest here. When you go against the norm, you expect a barrage of questions coming your way. I expect that the author was insecure about his current position and decision and hence wanted to validate it by using this website. Let the author affirm my statement.

3) “You generalize every Delhi-ite.”

Yes I am. That’s the whole point of generalization. Most of the Delhi-ites studying at ALS/IP/Symbi Noida are GENERALLY dumb, rich kids who can’t use logic to save their lives. This fact can also be affirmed by the author, seeing that he is already there.

4) “Isn’t the irony killing you?”

It is. And that’s what makes bickering on random forums fun.

5) “…ranking colleges?”

Duh. Highlights my competitiveness. Also, off topic. The point here is not discussing how good my alma mater is.

6) I won’t even bother quoting this statement.

Are you kidding me? What have been Delhi students not studying at NLUD ever been proactive at? Boozing? Searching for new bars everyday? Deciding which car to bring to college? Discussing with their friends whether their abs are adequately toned or not? Forget good NLUs, tier III NLUs like RML or RGNUL have students more active and aware than ALS/IP/Symbi Noida.

Oh yeah? Heard of logical deduction? General awareness? Barring the previous 2-3 years’ CLAT papers, the testing standard has been excellent.

I am a student of NLUJ.

Further, I am a Delhiite who had to make the choice between NLU-D and NLUJ.

I don’t know whether I am wrong or right in choosing this college. But I’ll tell you one thing-I am happy. First, the hostels aren’t cages. Individual rooms, by hostel standards, are a luxury. Second, though I am trying not to be judgemental, you clearly didn’t extend the same courtesy to Jodhpur. Jodhpur has a charm unlike anything I would have experienced in a city.

So, do we party and have fun? Yes.

Do we do all things college students across the country do? Yes.

Am I judging your choice? No. You must do what makes you happy. You thought it seemed like a struggle and you would rather be at home. Understood. Brave of you to make an unconventional choice.

However, is slugging it out in the Blue City worth it? Definitely!

I have grown so much since I came here- as a person, and as a law student. Everyone, from the mess staff to seniors and hostel wardens are warm and welcoming.

What did you miss out on for the love of AC rooms?

A vibrant campus, that is so much more than just a college.

A home away from home.

A place where it feels like everyone is better than you, so you’re constantly driven to do better.

Most importantly, a place where my competitors will raise toasts to my victories.

Anyway, I personally thought I needed to get out of home and see the world.

All the best to you! :)

I am sorry if i sounded defensive. It’s not my college, it’s my home.