How SILF feels about liberalisation: Not happy but more or less ready for entry, wants Singapore model

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On 25 August the Society of Indian Law Firms (Silf) hosted a meeting with journalists and Arun Jaitley, finance and information and broadcast minister.

Bar & Bench reported that SILF president Lalit Bhasin said: “We opposed the entry of foreign law firms for more than 20 years and there was a reason to do that. We had to prepare ourselves. We had to come up to certain level to compete with foreign law firms. Now I can say that we have achieved our expertise, efficiency and competency.”

He said that the Singapore model of the entry of foreign law firms - which initially allowed law firms into the country only via joint venture with a local firm, followed by a strictly controlled system of licences - and quipped, according to Bar & Bench: “Let the alien invasion happen. We are equipped to face them.”

Read Legally India’s full explanation of the Singapore model of legal market liberalisation, including its successes and failures, here.

Silf general secretary Rohit Kochhar, the managing partner of Kochhar & Co, said at the event that the top 10 law firms in France were “actually owned, managed and run by the English”:

While we should be ready to face the onslaught and nor fear the unknown, there are some practical realities we have to bear in mind. If you take the country of France, which has had a very well developed legal system with very renowned law firms. The top ten law firms are actually owned, managed and run by the English. So the point I am making is that these foreign law firms have such deep pockets, they can actually invade a country like India with the business plan, which says “we have planned losses for 5 years and then we will deal with what has to be done thereafter.

Editor’s note: In 2012, French legal publication Juristes Associes had reported, according to Global Legal Post, that “Clifford Chance is the largest global firm in France by turnover with €105.7 million” in fourth place overall, behind local firms Fidal (€309.8m), CMS Bureau Francis Lefebvre (€153.2m) and Gide Loyrette Nouel (€133.8m).standing…

Fidal has a best friends relationship with English firm Mills & Reeve. Gide is an independent French firm of 18 offices in 15 countries with 1,200 lawyers, according to Wikipedia. CMS BFL, belongs to an international network of CMS-branded law firms, but operates as an independent firm.

According to a Legal Week’s report of the research (behind paywall), Linklaters and Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer were also in the top 10, while Baker & McKenzie having had €81.6m turnover. Allen & Overy came in twelfth in France by turnover.

That said, accounting firm Ernst & Young’s law firm, Ernst & Young Societe D’Avocats matched Gide’s turnover in 2012 for joint-fourth place, according to the report, with PwC’s legal arm Landwell & Associes in sixth place with €113.8m revenues, according to that survey.

Kochhar added in his speech:

We Indian law firms have the skills, the talent and our acumen is second to none but we don’t have deep pockets of a Baker & Mckenzie or Clifford Chance or Jones Day. We cannot run a law firm as a business where we have planned losses for 5 years and then we take on the world. That is the practical reality we have to bear in mind while we ready ourselves for the invasion of the next East India Company.

While Jaitley said the process was up to the commerce and law ministries and not his, he chided the growth of the Indian legal industry which he doubted had “kept pace with our otherwise position at the global level”.

According to Bar & Bench he said:

“We have always suffered from the fear of the unknown. This fear of the unknown can create a certain amount of protection but when that protectionism gets beyond a point, it puts you in a smaller silo where the levels of ambition also get limited…

The time has now come where we also need a massive change if we want to capture a global space for ourselves and that will be possible if we get out of the defensive mode.

It’s really three things that matter – professional ethics, competence and cost. I don’t see why we cannot beat the rest of the world in cost. You have a distinct cost advantage.

Photo by ReInis Ivanovs.

Comments

Guest 26 Aug 2015, 03:26
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Request LI to please also air the views of the lawyers body that is supporting liberalisation and intervening in the Balaji case. And why no updates on that case? All it takes is a phone call to the Indian lawyers working on that case to get the status.
K 26 Aug 2015, 04:13
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If the joint venture route is permitted then there will essentially be three types of firms - 1. foreign firm JVs; 2. Large Indian firms (who choose to remain independent); 3. Small-mid sized Indian firms. The first two categories will fight between themselves to gain market-share; while the third category will fight for survival and to remain relevant in the market. We could also see some significant consolidation amongst younger firms to gain critical size; and be attractive targets for international firms. Critical size should be 10 partners, 50 lawyers, offices in Del & Mum, revenue in excess of Rs. 12-15 cr.
GoodlAWYER 26 Aug 2015, 05:56
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Not sure what level has Bhasin & Co has come up to in 20 years that it now feels it can compete with foreign law firms?!! They are now not opposing the entry of foriegn law firms because it is the need of the market and IT NOW INEVITABLE!!

SILF is a defunct body and an 'old boys club' who have a convenient mutual back scratching arrangement!

These old boys have lost a lot of ground over the years and purely because they have continued to remain either family driven or individual (read ego) driven. They don't have the mindset to 'come up to the level' of foreign law firms and that cannot change even of they wait for generations!!
In house lawyer 26 Aug 2015, 07:47
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In the era of globalization, Mr. Rohit Kochchar's argument is baseless. Society always respects the employment generator irrespective of his/her nationality.
Hypocrites 26 Aug 2015, 08:31
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entry of foreign firm will lead to closure of all "LALA" and Firms , that's the biggest fear, so oppose as long as u can otherwise many if not all will have to look for retainership in foreign Law firms.
Opposed to foreign law firms 26 Aug 2015, 13:11
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I am totally against foreign law firms. They will pay high wages to youngsters and spoil them. It is becoming difficult to retain youngsters these days as they are becoming greedy. They expect to own a car rather than travel by bus and metro and always ask for pay rises. Youngsters should understand the tradition of guru shishya system where junior are expected to serve the senior and acquire knowledge without expectation of payment. Money and buying a car will come later.
Hilarious 3 Sept 2015, 07:21
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@ Opposed to law firms: please do let us know if you would pefer lashing for the juniors as well..?
A greedy car driving youngster 26 Aug 2015, 16:28
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Dear 'Opposed to foreign law firms':

Please go back to the cave you crawled out of. And, stay there!

Sincerely,
Undeserving, remarkably spoilt junior!
Re budbak 26 Aug 2015, 20:17
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He is trolling you...good you mentioned you are still a junior
vella 27 Aug 2015, 05:26
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somebody need burnol here
Madam Curious 27 Aug 2015, 06:13
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My eyes got wet upon hearing the emotional speech of Mr. Khochchar! Indeed, now I realize as to how these foreigners will usurp the 'compassionate management' of all these fatherly figure law firms leaving all Indian lawyers orphaned and subjected to slavery! The only ray of hope I can see is in Bhasin & Co which, as Mr. Bhasin just claimed, has now geared itself up for the fight with phoren exploiters! Now I am also totally against entry of phoren/MDP firms into India. In fact, no phorener should be allowed to even visit India. They can continue to send their work to our big law firms here along with remittance of fees and their work will be done.
X 27 Aug 2015, 06:25
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Legally India is a mouthpiece and chamcha of Indian law firms. It always airs their voices in the liberalization debate but not the views of young lawyers or even older lawyers who are pro-liberalization. Hundreds of articles on SILF, not one article on the pro-reform voices.
kianganz 27 Aug 2015, 06:30
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You're totally entitled to your opinion, even if you're wrong.

1. We must be doing something right as balanced journalists if both you and Lalit Bhasin think we're not on their side.

2. Here's a recent voice from a young lawyer: http://www.legallyindia.com/Law-firms/will-the-entry-of-foreign-law-firms-benefit-young-lawyers-rational-realities-expectations-and-opportunities

3. Please read all our previous coverage of liberalisation. I am being a tad immodest in saying so, but I think it's second to none: http://www.legallyindia.com/tag/liberalisation
Magic Square 27 Aug 2015, 09:33
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At last! Freedom from the oppressive yoke of Indian imperialists is in sight!
amazing 27 Aug 2015, 11:18
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can some body tell me is Bhasin & Co. still operational? no offence, is he utilising all his energy to stop foreign firms from coming to India ?

it would not be better that all member should have decided to equip their respective teams better to compete with inevitable? are they worried about their incompetence or entry of foreign law firms will challenge their imperialism?
In house lawyer 28 Aug 2015, 07:13
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They are far behind standard law practices with regard to corporate law in India, which is evolving every year.
Deep Pocket 30 Aug 2015, 19:14
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Dear Mr Rohit Kocchar, when is D-Day, when the "next" East India Company will invade? Curiously, then also, people were only too ready to work for EIC as a sepoy which was considered prestigious and had pretty decent pay compared to doing anything else. Four centuries down the line...people in India are still very eager to work for the next EIC (or are there several of them?). Meanwhile, Mr Kocchar tell us about your Arabian adventure? Is your outfit still going there...more so, since we desis do not have deep pockets.
Foreign Counsel 31 Aug 2015, 05:56
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Not really sure how EIC and foreign law firms can be compared? Seems like a case of comparing apples and oranges. But to clarify, I personally know quite a large number of talented Indian lawyers stuck in the rut due to lack of a godfather (or many other factors which plague the legal scene for both, those practising in the Courts or even those stuck in non-meritocracy systems / law firms).

Thus, would request you to rethink the "EIC" scare tactics and work towards your own alternative empowerment measures for the legal community (if you plan to somehow stall the entry of foreign law firms). I believe the abovementioned talented lawyers, would be all ears to your alternative solutions.

Cheers mate!
Deep Pocket 31 Aug 2015, 18:32
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I was not using scare tactics by invoking the name of East India Company (and the unpleasant taste it left us in India). I was referring to Rohit Kochhar's speech:

"we don’t have deep pockets of a Baker & Mckenzie or Clifford Chance or Jones Day. We cannot run a law firm as a business where we have planned losses for 5 years and then we take on the world. That is the practical reality we have to bear in mind while we ready ourselves for the invasion of the next East India Company."