We can reveal that NLU Delhi’s governing council (GC) has just confirmed the next VC with Prof Srikrishna Deva Rao, the current vice chancellor (VC) of NLU Cuttack in Odisha, according to two authoritative sources.
As we had reported yesterday, the final shortlist had been between Rao and RGNUL Patiala VC Prof Paramjit Jaswal and dean of USSLLS (GGSIPU) Prof Afzal Wani.
Update 18:13: We have reached out to Rao for comment. He said: “Naturally I’m happy because I’ve been with the National Law University Delhi in 2010-14, that was a critical time when professor Ghanshyam Singh, the first registrar, had passed away [while serving in the office of the registrar].”
Rao added that Singh was a great institution builder and he hoped to continue along this path.
Before joining NLU Cuttack as its VC in 2014, he had been at NLU Delhi for four years as a professor of law and, as he had explained above, also as registrar.
Before 2010, from 2004, he had been professor at Indira Gandhi National Open University in Delhi and GNLU Gandhinagar.
Additionally, between 1995 and 1997, he had been lecturer at Delhi University, followed by just over a year at NLSIU Bangalore as assistant professor and nearly six years, until 2004, at Nalsar Hyderabad as assistant and associate professor.
Rao holds an LLM from Kakatiya University, Warangal, a masters in philosophy and law from NLSIU Bangalore and a PhD from Delhi University.
NLU Delhi now finally has a confirmed new VC, after founding vice-chancellor (VC) Prof Ranbir Singh’s 12-year-tenure (and a search process that lasted nearly a year).
And while Prof Singh will remain at NLU Delhi as professor emeritus, the hunt for a successor at NLU Cuttack in Odisha will now have to start.
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Already happened a few years back. Guess the internet in Shamirpet is a bit slow.
Most of you older NLU people who've been displaced from your imaginary glory days of private magazine rankings can't seem to digest the fact that behind all the publicity and optics, NLUD is actually a top law school with bright students (who've achieved more than you could've ever imagined in such a short period of time) and a very well-run administration compared to most other public universities in India. You can make baseless allegations about non-meritorious candidates getting in all you want but if you want to be taken seriously, I challenge you to provide even one name with even an iota of proof. I guarantee that none of you keyboard warriors will be able to do so.
If a college has a good reputation then it’s more than free to charge for its entrance test which it takes the trouble to conduct. For the record, the fees at NLUD are one the lowest amongst the top NLUS.
Fact Check: CLAT isn’t binding on any NLU. If they wanted to do so, let the relevant persons get an order from the court and make it so.
Besides, CLAT has always been a poorly conducted exam. Let’s see if that’ll ever change. I’ll see you next year when NLS quits CLAT. Let’s see you come up with excuses then.
Besides, if you're talking about individual merit of students, there are few from even lower tier NLUs and other law colleges who'd be better than an average lazy/entitled student of a top-tier NLU. Rankings denote the overall superiority of the University, not that of individual students per se (even though it is a very important metric).
Disregarding their obvious achievements in the UPSC exam, even in terms of higher education offers, vacation schemes, scholarships and mooting/ADR/debating achievements, NLUD students have matched (if not surpassed) almost every other law school. The fact that this has been done in around 10 years without an established alumni base and with the intense level of competition from the other older NLUs post-CLAT makes it all the more commendable.
If your angle is on placements, then, again, their placements haven't been poor by any standard even if they haven't been as high as the older three-four NLUs. In any case, it is worth remembering that placements are often influenced by alumni preferences (and the older NLUs have a very established base in the top law firms) and NLUD doesn't have this as an advantage even today.
The only thing you NUJS folks really have left is absolute placement numbers. And these are much easier to increase if you have alumni as Partners.
Buddy did you even bother opening the link in 15.3.....
NLS has judges (yes, plural) on the Karnataka HC (Bangalore & Dharwad Bench) and the Calcutta HC and SEVERAL Senior Advocates. Designation as a Sr. Adv. is more often than not a true recognition of merit as opposed (come at me nepotism trolls) to being promoted to Partner which is largely a function of time put into the profession. Although I hope that the other good NLUs will also yield several designations in the years to come as they hit the 20 year mark.
As far as international moots go, NLUD has the 4 international moot wins (ICC, Ox-Price, Man Lachs and Henry Dunant) which is second only to NLS in absolute numbers and equals NUJS (4 Vis wins in total). Not to mention, they’ve won nearly every national moot from NLS Arb to DM Harish, KK Luthra, etc.
In terms of scholarships, there have been people who’ve got the Rhodes, Inlaks and Chevening apart from DAAD and Pratibha Singh Cambridge, etc.
If you want to talk about debating NLUD has also won Mukarji Memorial and NLS Debate, NALSAR IV apart from numerous other wins. For ADR, they’ve also won YIMC and been finalists at Warsaw NR.
Check the NIRF details for the number of higher education offers in each batch. There are atleast 2-3 folks every year going to Oxbridge and couple going to one of the Ivy Leagues or good US colleges. Till 2020, NLUD has had atleast 2 vacation scheme offers every year apart from 4 for the 2019 batch.
These are just a small list and there are other achievements as well but this is more than enough to put you in your place with respect to your claim of not matching up. Perhaps, you should accept that it is indeed superior in many respects compared to whatever institution you’re from and learn what made this possible in such a short period rather than spreading false assertions as facts under the unaccountable veil of anonymity.
Based on the way people fanboy/girl over NLUD in LI comments (and bash all other top colleges) using highly flimsy grounds really makes me think if the best thing in that college is their gang of cyber trolls???
My argument isn't that folks from the other NLUs haven't achieved as much or more. It is simply to state that NLUD has its own list of student achievements which are as good as the others. You can nitpick on numbers and keep arguing but do remember that it is almost 10 years younger than Nalsar and NUJS. Even NLS hadn't managed this much in its first decade despite the fact that it had no competition.
What I don't quite understand is why every article on any other NLU on this website becomes a d*ck-measuring contest thanks to the army of NUJS internet trolls who keep proclaiming themselves as "the top 3". Does it really feel that fulfilling behaving like the little sister of NLS and Nalsar and classifying yourselves as a tier 1 NLU despite obvious evidence to the contrary? You aren't anymore so you might want to start getting used to it.
I have to say the only college which seems to have an ARMY of trolls and enters into a d**k measuring context at the top of a hat is NLUD
And beta please enter the real world once, trust me NUJS is still very much top3......
Not saying NLUD isn’t doing well for itself, but HIGHLY exaggerated claims in life
Having been put in place on that front, the usual line of argument on this by all you "over-achievers" is that the numbers are less, the moots are not as good, etc. and then claiming that more resources must automatically translate into the best outcomes, otherwise it's all a scam. The outcomes will improve, and it takes time to materialise, so be patient.
Also, for the guy that says people didn't crack CLAT and only got through AILET, I'd like to remind you that most General category people in NLUD have in fact dropped NUJS and ones like NLUJ, NLIU, GNLU etc., in their final preference. Anyone who's given AILET and CLAT will admit that AILET is of a higher standard between the two standardized tests.
B. If we are considering all more or less known international moots, then this is the tally:
NLSIU: 7, NUJS: 5, NLUD: 3, NALSAR: 2.
Moots included here: Jessup, Vis, Vis East, Oxford IP, Price Media, ICC, Stetson, Man Lachs. I don't believe all these belong to the same category/class though. I believe most moot enthusiasts would concur.
So this myth of the NLUD-UPSC bubble has been exposed to be nothing more than that, a myth.
From 2013 till this year, there's been atleast 2-5 UPSC rankers every year from NLUD, apart from the fact that barring 2013 (which is when the first batch graduated) and 2015, NLUD has had around 1-2 people in the IAS/IFS in every other year. NLS hasn't displayed this level of consistency. Not to say that their achievements in UPSC are any lesser. But to brush NLUD's UPSC achievements under the carpet by saying that it's a myth is just spreading false information. If your uninformed/biased against the college, then maybe you shouldn't comment false facts.
So please, just as NLUD's false claims about most NLU-faculty have been clearly busted (and made worse by recent migrations of Aparna, Mrinal etc to NLS), this UPSC hype needs a reality check.
If your point is to compare it with pre-2013 results, I never said that NLUD was dominating then because it wasn't even competing. On that metric, NLS, Nalsar, NUJS and even NLUJ and NLIU, etc. might have more absolute numbers who have cleared the exam than NLUD. Do check your logic before you argue.
And as far as NALSAR and NUJS are concerned, looking purely in terms of absolute numbers since 2013, NLUD has produced more rankers in the final merit lists. Go check it for yourself from all the previous articles on this and other websites, if you're so doubtful, and get your facts straight. No doubt, both these colleges have produced top rankers before 2013 and that is equally commendable.
Going by his weak hold over the teachers , staff and academic activities of the University he lacks leadership and/or administrative skills.
This is the worst administrator for NLUD. And the least transparent as well. Probably that's how he scored this appointment as well.
Rao would have a very smooth sailing at NLUD. He would be working with his former boss and he has seen a lot of NLU-D as Registrar.
The only issue can be if he does not upgrade himself from the Ex-Registrar of NLU-D to the de facto VC of NLU-D.
My point: Looking down on TLC professors and just assuming more NLU teachers = better teaching quality, is just strange. Keep in mind that Chimni etc. are all from TLCs.
My original point only was: just because he is an nls alumnus, one cannot assume he is the best. He may be the best, or a TLC professor may be the best. Just because someone has graduated from an NLU, does not automatically make them more competent. Both TLCs and NLUs have their share of terrible and great teachers, and one can't look down on TLC profs just because they don't have the "nlu tag"
Legit what are you smoking bro
1. Please tell me who’s rejected NLS for NLUD? (And in case you can point out one odd instance at best, which is also doubtful, - trust me that person reallyyy needed better advice)
2. NUJS has “decent” placements
UNDERSTATEMENT AF
Last year 33 tier-1 ppos and 30-32 tier-1 dayz jobs - EASILY THE BEST IN TBE COUNTRY - NO COMPARISON
3. YES moors matter - I’m sorry but don’t it NUJS which just won Vis Vienna and won Vis East in 2017????? (Also broke at jessup this year and has don’t quite well at it and other intl/natl moots otherwise)
4. Isn’t NUJS so’s the college with the BEST credit courses? Some top practitioners have been teaching here
Justices CHELAMESHWAR and RUMA PA took a full multi-day cc here btw recently
5. Inshwara Bhat is OLD NEWS buddy... the new VC has been quite proactive
3. And yes ofc it’s not like getting 2 Rhodes scholars in 3 years and 5 Harvard llm admits in just one year is a big deal at all.....
So please think many many times before you write off NUJS
And don’t worry about the “highly reliable” NIRF rankings....even there we’ll come back up... this VC has been proactively working for it
It's still much more than the numbers who drop NLS for NALSAR (forget NUJS). You can check for yourself using the merit lists, if you're so interested. I don't need to reveal names here.
So far as NUJS is concerned, it's no doubt a good law school and its alumni are doing very well but you should accept that it has been poorly administered over the past decade and from this year on, it's going to have a generous domicile quota apart from its pre-existing huge NRI-sponsored quota. Perception-wise, it definitely isn't very appealing any more, even discounting the NIRF ranking. I do hope it improves and its recent achievements are still very good.
It has NOTHING to do with law and legal studies
Why should a law college be considered good if it’s grads decide to leave the legal field altogether after graduating??
Don’t kid yourself, buddy, UPSC is very prestigious and much more so than some law firm placement which is helped by alumni who work there.
First, I would like to say that I'm no troll since I'm not claiming absolute bullsh*t without facts. Secondly, this is not anything with respect to claims of NLU faculty. You seem to internalize all NLUD information and spew the same thing against any comment in favour of NLUD. In any case, NLUD does not have the highest number of NLU faculty and there are other professors like AK Rai, etc. who are very good teachers in any case.
Prof. Sarita Adve for her memory consistency models,
Infosys founder Kris Gopalakrishnan,
Ramnathan Guha, creator of Schema and VP research at Google,
Sudhar V, founder of Zoho.
And I used just two IITs for this, off the top of my head. Seems AILET doesn't cover GK, current affairs either, just like logic. Simply because you haven't heard of people or their achievements, that doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means you are a frog in the well. If you are from NLUD, then you are making me lower my respect for that institution which I have otherwise believed to be a fine one.
And whatever you're saying in your second paragraph, I've already stated previously in the preceding comment.
I doubt you had fine feeling about NLUD if you assume that any comment in favour of it is trolling. In any case, your opinion on it doesn't really matter to me because my main goal is to stop the random misinformation on NLUD's quality and not convince some anon commentator about its merits. So go ahead and lower your respect.
You guys crack UPSC relatively frequently
Wooohoo
Seriously let’s move on from this one thing
I think both sides have made enough points
Let’s actually talk about the legal field?
Also, you are wrong to say that NLUD produces more UPSC rankers since more students sit for the exam compared to other colleges. On an every, in every batch, not more than 9-10 people take the exam and even fewer (maybe 4-5) do so very seriously. These numbers are the same in NUJS (around 12) and even NALSAR and NLS.
If law firm placements are purely based on institutional rep (and I agree to a certain extent with that), then that rep is influenced by alumni who've worked in that firm and that takes time to fructify so then comparing NLUD with the older NLUs in absolute terms isn't as fair.
PLEASE PLEASE read this for anyone who wants to doubt NUJS as a top-3 college
Idk why @Kian doesn’t do an article about this??
I don't mean that NKC being a "TLC" shouldn't be praised. But the grounds cited are pretty manufactured. Maybe the authors, [...] should have checked with EC records before engaging in sycophancy. [...]
www.livelaw.in/columns/professor-ranbir-singh-an-appreciation-163387?infinitescroll=1
Full-time VCs required in NLU Assam, Patna and Odisha now. Nandi is definitely going somewhere. Maybe NLUO? What about Mary? With elections due in Assam, have a feeling a son/daughter of the soil will start. That's what killed NUJS which has truly entered BhaatGhoom.
In terms of ranking, a proper ranking (such as QS) combines the parameters of faculty, infra, placements and moots. The result is there for all to see: JGLS #1, NLSIU #1, rest don't even rank.
Don't fall for it kids.
- sincerely, batch of 2016.
- sincerely, batch of 2014
For the record, NLUD still has NLU alums as part of its faculty but I won't be putting out names here to convenience you. Go check the website if you're that interested. In any case, some of the non-NLU faculty there are still pretty decent.
Another thing is that it needs to be updated. Even people like Chinmayi who have not been teaching for the last two years are still named as faculty (not even mentioned to be on study leave). That's a misrepresentation, though I do not think it is deliberate.
Among the permanent faculty members (I am not counting the research associates), I could only see Anup as an NLU LLB alumnus. I do not think that there is any other NLU LLB alumni among the permanent faculty at NLUD at present with the departure of Mrinal and Aparna. This is not to say that they still do not have good faculty. Arul, Daniel etc. are as good as any.
p.s. I have not posted any comment earlier in this thread.
At APU its Anushman and Kanika Gauba.
For eg, senior practitioners from Sisley Austin based in Geneva are taking an intl dispute resolution course (full semester elective course not just cc) virtually
Amongst other courses
One full credit course was taken by Latham and Watkins people - with GARY BORN himself taking virtual classes
It was largely taught by an advocate practicing in Dehradun (NLS '11) & an SA from the above-mentioned firm.
There are TWO DIFFERENT courses that happened at NUJS (YESS)
1. The currently ongoing Sisley Austin full semester elective taught remotely from Geneva
2. The Wilmer Hale credit course (14 hour) that was taught in January - not by a SA but by a COUNSEL from the firm
- along with support from Gary Born himsef
So YOUU please get your facts right before you try and troll NUJS baselessly
The Counsel you are referring to was an SA when the course was bought to the notice of the students, but I do conceded that he was Counsel in the month of the teaching. Also note, that YOU made the mistake of saying he is from L&W.
It's Sidley Austin, you're studying at such a prestigious university, at least get your spellings right.
Yes, a lot of other teachers are horrible like at a lot of other places, but again they are also not anything to be written about or highlighted.
Also while the seminar faculty is pretty good, again they are mostly people between 2010-2015 batches. Not to say that some of them are not fantastic, but being in Delhi maybe need to tap a wider pool. Also as with most year the better elective course are mostly public law related.
1. Years of experience in academics or industry: 0.5 point per teacher for every 5 years of experience
2. Publications: 0.5 points per teacher for every article published in a Scopus journal or a journal indexed in Hein/Westlaw/JSTOR + 0.5 points per teacher for every chapter in a book by OUP/CUP/Sage/Routledge/Springer/Elgar etc
3. Quality of LLB degree institution: 0.75 points per teacher for a top 10 NIRF law school/ 0.5 points for top 20/0.25 for top 30
4. Quality of LLM degree institution: 0.75 points per teacher for a top 100 QS law school/ 0.5 points for top 200 QS/0.25 for top 300 QS/0.25 for top 10 NIRF
4. Quality of PhD degree institution: 0.75 points per teacher for a top 100 QS law school/ 0.5 points for top 200 QS/0.25 for top 300 QS/0.15 for top 10 NIRF
Sudhir, PhD Oxford (Rhodes)
Mrinal, SJD Yale
Aparna, SJD Yale
Atreyee, PhD Yale
Sarasu, PhD NLSIU
Rahul, LLM Harvard
Raag, BCL Oxford (Rhodes)
Srijoni LLM Columbia
Kunal, LLM Berkeley
www.livelaw.in/news-updates/jgls-expands-law-school-faculty-to-425-nationally-internationally-qualified-academics-with-appointment-of-103-new-full-time-faculty-163471?infinitescroll=1
www.barandbench.com/news/lawschools/jgls-appoints-103-new-full-time-faculty-members-faculty-strength-now-at-425
NUJS- 26
NLIU - 20
NLSIU - 19
NALSAR - 17
GNLU - 14
NLUJ 13
RGNUL - 8
CNLU - 7
RMLNLU- 4
NLUD - 3
NUALS - 2
NUSRL - 2
NLUJA - 2
NLUO - 2
HNLU - 1
Total: 143
Total from Big 7 NLUs (NLSIU, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUD, NLUJ, GNLU and NLIU) = 112
If this the dominant philosophy or orientation of the GoI, then will NLUD join CLAT? Will RS Tau allow?
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