NLS 25% reservation passed by Karnataka assembly

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Friday, 20 March 2020 By Legally India Law schools

The Karnataka Assembly has passed the contested amendment to the NLSIU Bangalore establishing act to create a 25% reservation for students resident in the state.

Journalist Mathang Seshagiri had first tweeted the news late yesterday:

Karnataka Assembly passes NLSIU (Amendment) Bill provisioning 25% reservation for local students (those who have studied in the state for 10 years). Surprising that @JCMBJP & @krishnabgowda did not push for SC/ST reservation at the institute. https://t.co/zS6qoXvGPV

— Mathang Seshagiri (@mathangcito) Thu, 19 Mar 2020, 19:39

NLSIU sources with knowledge of the bill have confirmed the development to us.

Despite some lobbying by local lawyers for 50% reservation, the state government appears to have eventually stuck to its idea of only reserving 25% for residents from the state.

NLSIU Bangalore

Comments

What is happening 20 Mar 2020, 05:37
+7 -8
Hope Sudhir managed to negotiate some major concessions from the state government.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 06:22
+4 -12
Rumours are that the Karnataka govt (which is a BJP govt) has agreed to submit NLSIU's name to the central govt for recognition as an Institution of National Importance.Also, a financial package and land are on its way.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 06:19
+9 -16
And that, dear NLSIU students, is what happens when you refuse to join hands with other NLUs seeking nationalisation because you think these NLUs are "lower" than you. Now get ready for a further 22% Karnataka SC/ST reservation, bringing the total to 47% Karnataka reservation.

And get ready to lose your QS ranking and NIRF # 1 slot in the next 5 to 6 years.
Guest2 20 Mar 2020, 07:21
+2 -7
Ok.
Guest3 20 Mar 2020, 07:47
+3 -7
Can't wait to see your reaction when you get to know that K'tka govt., as a part of the deal, is going to endorse NLSIU for IoE status.
Noojie 20 Mar 2020, 06:20
+2 -11
I have said it a million times and I’ll say it again. Privatisation or nationalisation of NLUs are the only way for them to maintain their supremacy. JGLS is already the best and there is no positive news from its competitors, all I get to read is negative
Guest2 20 Mar 2020, 11:39
+2 -8
Privatization, no. Else Symbi would be second only to JGLS defeating all other NLUs.
Nationalization, yes.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 13:21
+7 -1
Privatization alone won't work. You need to put the right person at the helm of affairs like Rajkumar, and give them freedom and resources to operate.
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 02:02
+3 -1
Agreed. In fact, someone like Rajkumar will do well even if he is in charge of a state government NLU. He aggressively focuses on recruiting NLU alumni faculty, improving infrastructure, PR with law firms and practitioners and foreign collaborations. What he does not focus on is student quality, but that takes care of itself in NLUs.
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 04:19
+4 -1
The problem is in an NLU, his hands would also be largely tied in terms of opposition from senior faculty, state government interference, resource crunch etc.
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 07:39
+1 -0
Correct. JGLS started from scratch and with a young VC, so they were able to hire NLU-dominated faculty from the start. You will have to wait for 15 to 20 years for that to happen at NLUs, once the current lot retires.
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 13:17
+3 -0
Even then, there would be problems. NLUs can't hire alumni without UGC qualifications these days without multiple parties crying foul. Unlike private places like JGLS. A large talent pool gets ignored that way.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 06:21
+3 -11
Nothing will happen. The governor will decline it like last time. The NLSIU alumni lobby is united and powerful.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 06:24
+1 -8
Bengaluru, Kian. Even their official site says so. Or use MNLU Bombay and NUJS Calcutta.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 14:43
+6 -0
And the Bangalore Law College student speaks again.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 06:32
+10 -2
See what TOI report on this says:

[quote]Earlier, quoting ivy league law universities of Madhya Pradesh (25% in NLSIU), Punjab (10% in RGNUL), Assam (30 seats each in NLS and Judicial Academy), Andhra Pradesh (30 seats in Damodaram Sanjivayya NLU), 80 seats in Uttar Pradesh (Dr Ram Manohar Lohia NLU) and Tamil Nadu (16 seats in TNNLS), apart from others, Madhuswamy said the government has sought the reservation to ensure that Karnataka students also have a fair chance to be part of the institute.
[/quote]

Since NLSIU calls itself "Harvard of the East" on the basis of Karnataka CM SM Krishna coining the term, can RGNUL "officially" call itself "Yale of the East"?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/assembly-passes-25-quota-for-local-students-at-nlsiu/articleshow/74718470.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIBengaluru
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 06:37
+0 -13
Why did Sudhir not propose 85% dom reservation in LLM/MPhil in place of zero dom reservation in BALLB? That would have been a great compromise because the prestige of the college would be intact and Kannadigas still happy. Also, there can be 100% Kannadiga reservation for admin, clerks, security guards, sweepers etc, to accommodate poorer sections of Kannadigas.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 06:41
+2 -13
Shameful dirty work by Karnataka govt to take advantage of COVID crisis and slip this through.
Zing 20 Mar 2020, 09:16
+1 -9
The NLS alumni association should oppose this tooth and nail. Call for protests if they have to, we cannot have this!
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 10:15
+0 -6
The state govt is going to transfer the an adjacent parcel of land. This will be repackaged by Messiah and Co as a "major thing". The govt will also increase some annual dole to the univ, which it could have always done but didn't for a variety of reasons, including the earlier leadership not being persuasive. Univ admins often claim that the state isn't funding enough. But what the leadership are really afraid is a loss of their autonomy to game the system for personal gains. Once the state gets a foothold in the "system" then too many mouths and palms to.....you get the picture.

It is likely that we will receive a degree of increased funding from the state and some additional land parcel. Both things have been in the pipeline for years. The increased funding will likely be used to ramp up the number of undergraduate and eventually postgraduate seats. This is also required to cover up the gaping holes caused by the sins of previous administration. Messiah magnanimously (like the so-called TLC educated VCs) have allowed the crooks to slip away or continue unpunished.

Once the student intake capacity is hiked and the infrastructure expanded, the quota may get bumped upwards depending on local politics then. The SC/ST thing may come in via an amendment or an EC/GC directive.

Okay back to business as usual.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 11:26
+1 -6
LI, LiveLaw, Bar & Bench etc were all caught unawares, as was mainstream media. They deliberately did this under the radar as everyone is busy with Covid.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 11:27
+0 -5
#NLSIUProtest #HungerStrike #NationaliseNLUs
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 11:31
+0 -7
BIG NEWS: Faculty sources saying Karnataka govt will propose the college for National Importance status in light of the QS ranking. This is a game changer. The 25% quota is not a problem now, it's still the lowest of al NLUs.
Zing 20 Mar 2020, 13:11
+7 -1
Please cite your "insider sources" before giving all this rubbish information
Jonny 20 Mar 2020, 13:13
+16 -1
If these ridiculous comments are really from NLS students, then I doubt domicile reservation will decrease the quality of students in the law school.
Guest4 20 Mar 2020, 14:17
+1 -13
Quite ridiculous of you to assume that domicile reservation decreases quality of students.
Jonny 20 Mar 2020, 15:18
+10 -2
It does. On paper, atleast. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any issue against it, would there? NLS should be celebrating welcoming more Karnataka students, then.
Guest4 20 Mar 2020, 15:52
+0 -10
On paper atleast? Hahaha. Please cite some source/ data for this argument of yours and enlighten all of us.
Jonny 20 Mar 2020, 16:40
+11 -1
Geez. Did you even understand what I just stated? A domicile quota is clear devaluation of merit (that's what "on paper" means, genius). Now these kids might not be of poor quality in reality (since CLAT ranks don't obviously determine intelligence or law school performance) but the manner of their entrance into the law school is not purely on competitive merit.
Do you feel "enlightened" now? I doubt it, especially for someone of your cerebral capacity who thinks he's smart by type-laughing in the comments section to show off their misunderstood sarcasm.
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 19:15
+4 -6
Nobody enters law school by exhibiting purely competitive merit. It's all a by product of various privileges. Not that a domicile quota is an answer for that though in my opinion.
Jonny 22 Mar 2020, 02:13
+6 -3
This is a fairly obvious argument that everyone is a victim/beneficiary of their circumstances in most of the spheres of their lives. That’s something which can be stretched very far to justify almost every person’s life achievements but that isn’t what I was addressing. Competitive exams don’t factor that into account, do they? The fact is that the ranking is all that matters for admission in such exams and that is being compromised by introducing a domicile quota (which is not even a form of necessary affirmative action).
Guest 22 Mar 2020, 04:38
+5 -3
As I said, I don't believe domicile quota addresses any social inequality either. However, my point was about you claiming that students enter law school via display of pure competitive merit, even if it takes place through competitive exams like CLAT. That is simply not the case. Such merit can only be judged when all the applicants get to avail of all the facilities and benefit of privilege, not otherwise. Till that happens, every student who makes it through must have still worked hard, no doubt, but has also been incredibly lucky, something that they would do well to remember and appreciate in course of their time at law school and beyond.
Jonny 22 Mar 2020, 16:08
+2 -0
Right. Agreed.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 13:19
+1 -3
What is more likely to happen is that NLS will get revised NAAC score that will help it qualify for Category I autonomy from UGC. The thing that NALSAR and NLUD got. IoE thing was always a political thing. Else how do you explain KIIT, Jio etc in the private space and DU in the public univ category. I accept that DU is more than just DU Law. Still at a time when DU Law is having a tussle with BCI over affiliation for more than half-a-decade, IoE status at this juncture does look patchy.

Also note that none of the IIMs, AIIMS etc have been awarded IoE status. But many not so well-known institutions have been given INI status, which is mostly a taxation thing. So, NLS has a better chance of getting INI status at some point given the political alignment between Centre and state.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 13:25
+0 -5
This may affect NIRF rank as state-wise student diversity is one of the parameters. But the data for this year's NIRF has already been sent.
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 13:27
+2 -9
Some pro-Karnataka trolls are downvoting the good comments. Go away!
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 16:56
+7 -0
Why on earth would anybody 'anti-Karnataka' want to study at an institution located there to begin with?
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 15:57
+0 -4
Can the NLSIU SBA be convinced to lobby/petition for NLU Nationalisation across India now? OR are they still looking after their selfish interests and instead hoping for INI status just for them?
Guest 20 Mar 2020, 16:08
+0 -4
Kiran Mazumder Shaw to India Today just now: "There is going to be a very significant recession."

NLUs better be ready...
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 01:58
+0 -4
Pathetic TLC lobby trying to post anti-Sudhir comments here.
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 02:11
+11 -0
This "Harvard of the East" thing is bullshit PR that is lapped up by gullible media like LI and India Today. It was coined by KARNATAKA POLITICIANS for fuck's sake, not a renowned international academic or even the Indian Prime Minister. I appreciate that NLSIU has made it to QS, but there are nearly 20 universities from Asia ahead. And the global media uses "Harvard of the East" for NUS Singapore and HKU Hong Kong (see below).

Shame on Kian Ganz and other journalist for spreading such CRAP!

https://www.scmp.com/article/1512709/theres-good-reason-hku-harvard-east

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/singapore-scholars-criticise-us-focus/168842.article
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 02:11
+1 -4
200% NLSIU will get INI tag by end of this year.
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 07:36
+0 -4
Forget #NationaliseNLUs, once the economy tanks and jobs dry up the new hashtag will be #StartIndianJudicialService
Guest 21 Mar 2020, 13:14
+3 -2
Since when is the judiciary a shop for bailing out green law grads wet behind the ears?
Jabra Fan 21 Mar 2020, 08:23
+2 -4
Welcome News , Every state has a right to take steps for its domiciles. Happy that Assemble have done so. Long live statehood.
Oh boy 24 Mar 2020, 12:18
+2 -3
Time to find a new alma mater.
Guest 24 Mar 2020, 13:41
+1 -2
Please do. Your old one seems to have been well rid of you.
Guest 25 Mar 2020, 10:00
+0 -1
Learn some Kannada
Guest 25 Mar 2020, 10:48
+1 -1
Share some material? I would like to.
Guest 26 Mar 2020, 10:12
+0 -0
Hug a ninja.
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