Nalsar Hyderabad has placed 35 students with law firms out of a 2011 graduating batch of 81, as the in-house recruitment round is yet to begin.
The top recruiter was Amarchand Mangaldas, which hired 13 students in total. Amarchand was one of four firms that visited the Nalsar campus on 26 July, alongside Luthra & Luthra, Khaitan & Co and Trilegal, which have all recently increased their starter salaries to beyond Rs 10 lakhs per year.
Recruiter | Jobs accepted |
Amarchand Mangaldas (Mumbai and Delhi) | 12 and 1 |
Ernst & Young (E&Y) | 5 |
Khaitan & Co (Mumbai) | 4 |
Majmudar & Co | 3 |
Luthra & Luthra (Delhi and Mumbai) | 2 and 1 |
Bharucha & Partners | 2 |
Finsec Law Advisers | 2 |
AZB & Partners | 1 |
Desai & Diwanji (Mumbai) | 1 |
Trilegal (Delhi) | 1 |
Khaitan & Co hired four students for its Mumbai office, Luthra & Luthra took two students for its Delhi office and one in Mumbai and Trilegal Delhi saw one Nalsar student accept job offers to start in 2011, said recruitment coordination committee (RCC) member Danish Sheikh.
Majmudar & Co was the second recruiter to visit campus several days later, picking up three students, however the biggest recruiter after Amarchand was accountancy firm Ernst & Young (E&Y) which took a total of five students on.
The boutique start-up Finsec Law Advisers, which was set up by former SEBI executive director Sandeep Parekh earlier this year, made its campus debut and won two job offer acceptances.
Desai & Diwanji hired one student for its Mumbai office although the firm would still to visit campus next month, said Sheikh.
A total of 60 students chose to participate in the RCC out of a batch of 81. A large number of students chose to wait for recruitment by companies rather than law firms, explained Sheikh, which would happen in the coming months. “We are very happy with the law firm placements,” he said.
As at last month, law firms have also recruited heavily from other Indian law schools (update Legallypedia entries), such as NLIU Bhopal, NUJS Kolkata, GNLU Gandhinagar and NLSIU Bangalore.
Complete the Legallypedia entries of Nalsar Hyderabad and other Indian law schools to help future generations of law students and recruiters.
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NLU students, instead of fighting with each other please unite and pray for foreign law firms. NLS and NUJS students stop posting messages saying that your placements are better than NALSAR etc.
I have a suggestion: why don't the students of all NLUs get together and organise a conference on the topic? You can also bring out a journal based on it .
tell me the name of any graduate of nalsar or any national law college who has become a senior judge or advocate. you people do not deserve such high salary.
1.) We have had better 'quality placements' till now. The top paying firms: AMSS, Luthra,Trilegal and Khaitan recruited 30 from NUJS. NALSAR has had only 21. Moreover, NUJS's figures don't include AMSS Bombay's offers.
2.) That we have a larger batch makes our placements even better. Its more difficult to get top notch placements for 80 people (which NUJS does every year) than for 50 odd people (at NALSAR).
FYI...a new foreign law firm..by the name of CMS [something] recruited a couple of 4th years at NUJS! Beat that.
Displaced Bong, unfortunately comments like yours do encourage the slugfest! You force people like me to reply, lest the junta be mislead!
You seem to be a disgruntled unhappy local lawschoolite.
Btw its also not the only foreign firm which has picked up NALSARites this year , both 4th and 5th...
So, we pretty well beat that....
And as far as numbers are concerned , 21 out of 50 is better than 30 out of 80 (why do i even have to make that clear ? ) :-P
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I'm not taking sides here. I think both law schools rock. BUT I am inclined to say that NUJS has placed better numbers at the same firms.
AMSS - Almost equal (Delhi & Bbay)
Luthra - NUJS 11, NALSAR 3 (that's a huge difference)
Khaitan - NUJS 8, NALSAR 4 (again, big difference)
Trilegal - NUJS 2, NALSAR 1 (negligible)
I'm just pulling these figures out from the reports published on legallyindia.
These appear to have been the first bunch of firms on BOTH the campuses.
With respect to batch strength - Every law school has students pulling out of recruitments. Every top law school has foreign firms pick up students. BUT I'm surprised NALSAR hasn't done better BECAUSE of their smaller batch size! I mean, only 60 students to place and after calling nearly TWICE as many firms as NUJS they've placed a comparative number of students!
For those posting from NALSAR -
What's there to brag about?? This seems to reflect poorly on the quality of the students! Since firms seem to have been called one after another - let's just be honest, it means there's a higher "rejection rate" during the interviews, and that the same bunch of people sat for many interviews before finally landing offers!
Of course, the RCCs will always claim that any given student sat only for that interview in which s/he got the job. lol.
PS - Law firms recruitments at NALSAR were quite pathetic last year with only 20 - 25 students getting selected by law firms. Rest were all companies & PSUs - generally the lesser preferred option in all Indian law schools. So 35 is a big improvement, and a welcome change. Good job guys! Wish you all the best for the remainder of the year.
SILF is busy spreading rumours that youngsters are opposed to foreign law firms. a few morons from nujs are aiding SILF by undermining unity amongst NLUs
and yes a lobbying by nalsar/nlsiu...is a great idea....we shall moot for such an idea in our law school for sure....
and we have a lesser batch strength so they dont have ppl to take....noojies...is it hard to comprehend that...and as aforementioned 21/50...you do the math..
and with all your knowledge you call CMS a new firm....lol....its CMS Mckenna for god's sake
its mainly nujs ppl who are on this nalsar bashing mission...you ll rarely see a nalsarite commenting on nujs news....but wherevr nalsar is mentioned there re ppl from nujs who take it upon themselves to bash nalsar...i commented on a nalsar post and thought it was wise to make the "noojies" reflect
You can imagine how many youngsters today will have the courage (or be foolhardy) to openly advocate for foreign law firms...
On one hand, you have fools like Nalsar XYZ trying to make his NALSAR batch sound smaller with every post.. 21/50? I thought it was 60? 21/60 doesn't sound dramatic enough for you?
On the other, you have other NALSAR students commenting about how NALSAR students shun corp jobs and then they label Noojies commies!! Excuse me, but I think looking at how fabulous NUJS placements with firms & companies are - they ought to be branded absolute sell-outs! So much for the contribution of NLUs to lit practice.
@ That kid from NUJS - Wtf is the matter with you? Don't you do your homework before commenting? CMS? New? Really?? Next time, ask around a little.
@ Nalsar XYZ - A smaller batch, IMO, is always easier to place. As a recruiter, I would be influenced by the teacher:student ratio, and expect it to reflect on their resumes. From my friends at NALSAR - I know that many many students sat for the interviews (my friends being amongst them). Which brings me back to the point - lesser placements despite equal number of students sitting = higher rejection rate. Are you seriously telling me that those who sat for Majmudar (which was second firm on campus after July 26, as per the report) didn't sit for firms on July 26? Or those who were selected by E & Y?
Why is this hard for you to understand? Assume there are 10 kids in the class - and, say, it takes 3 recruiters to recruit all 10. If there were 20, you might need 6.
BUT, here - from the first 4 firms on both the campuses - NUJS has a clear lead of 13 more students placed (AMSS, Luthra, Khaitan, Trilegal). That's something.
And c'mon. Be fair now. There's no propaganda here from NUJS kids. Where? I think all you guys commenting from NALSAR should know that your comments stink of bias. And please don't label THIS post as NALSAR bashing, because I'm just stating facts here. If you think I'm wrong, you try to persuade me of that. Stop whining about how others try to defame you when that's clearly not the objective.
BUT at the end of it all - Screw you all. I think NLS kids are the best. Humble, and look - they don't even go around fishing for news reports about their recruitments.
@Kian- I think LegallyIndia should have a special place for conference/seminar/competition updates. It can be like a newsletter that people can subscribe to. If you think its feasible and want to implement it, I would be happy to help. :-) Implementation details can be worked out.
@Others- How do you like this idea?
@26: If GNLU did have a seminar on that issue then well done to them. You should publicise it and post the videos of the seminar on youtube. Here's my suggestion to the NLUs : jointly organise a debate, call pro-liberalisation voices and also call SILF and Moily. Two things will happen: (i) the SILF guy will get screwed because their arguments have no substance. (ii) Moily has not been exposed to the other side of the fence. He will hear valid arguments and students applauding them. This may force him to have a change fo heart.
I request all NLUs to organise such a conference: NALSAR, NLS, GNLU etc. It will not be a problem for these students to get together. Forget about the non-cooperaton from NUJS students: they can go lay eggs. They suffer from an inferiority complex.
(2) that you guys, for some unimaginable reason, are obsessed with trying to take a shot at NUJS no matter what your comment is about!! Its quite clear to anyone reading who is trying to defame who!
I mean, someone called NUJS students commies! The right analogy would then be to call NALSAR students jungle tribals! But still, what you have here are NALSAR students writing crap about other law schools. Grow up, will you? And if tomorrow someone questions your self congratulatory comments analyzing your recruitments - answer with reason. Not by trying to make yourselves sound like victims of some conspiracy and trying to insult that person!
And Oh! They are treated very well by our VC! I believe NUJS is in the process of launching a course in partnership with one of these firms. So STOP making anonymous lies!
And well guys at NUJS are not only rejecting law firm offers; they also starting their own law firms and LPOs.
I guess you at NALSham (slip of tongue) are feeling insecure because times are changing. The NALSham (oops! again) devoid of its great Ranbir Singh, devoid of its faculty is slipping down places. And oh the 20% reservations! I heard your funders want to move it up to 50%. My best wishes are with you.
As facts stand today (do your readings kiddo or at least be good with maths) NUJS has the better placements and wait...did you say foreign LLMs! Really! NUJS has had the most number of students joining the Ivy League colleges.
A few figures from a website:
NUJS
Oxford-1
LSE- 1
Kings College London- 4
Berkeley- 2
Cornell- 1
SOAS- 2
NALSAR
Oxford- 2
LSE- 0
Kings College- 1
Berkeley- 0
Cornell- 0
SOAS- 0
I know now you will wail and cry and say that this doesn't include such and such college or such and such names! This is true for both the parties.
Stop bickering! Stop the Sham kiddo! And oh! Stop babbling anonymously with your thumb stuck inside your mouth. You haven't grown up. You can't! And you can't see other colleges growing either. Poor you. You have a "dog in a dustbin's" psychology.
it smacks of desperation that you are showing these statistics. you should first and try to improve the state of your college. nujs students are openly complaining on the net abt their college. you are living in denial.
C'mon, it's clear by now - NUJS has had lesser (nearly half as many) recruiters on campus, and yet an almost equal number of students placed. Accept the facts, and move on. I promise, the moment you stop writing lies about my school - I won't need to inconvenience myself bragging about our placements on your college's page.
@ 30 - I like the analogy! For the uninitiated, "NUTS" is in Kolkata and Noojies thus labeled "commies".. "NALSham" is in the middle of nowhere, thus NALShamites "junglee tribals"!
#2 = NLS
#3 = NUJS
well-known fact
@37- It was a reply to an assertion that NALSAR has had better foreign univs placements than NUJS which as the stats prove is yet another sham.
Please have your say on the forum if this is good, bad and if we should be slightly stricter in moderating comments that are obviously 'trolling' for a reaction?
www.legallyindia.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=3&id=2029&Itemid=158
L.O.L.
Yes, and you say NUJS students live in denial, eh?
@ 37
You're confused. On one hand, your collective argument is that NALSham is "miles ahead" because of better recruitments (false), better quality of students (false), better acceptances to good postgrad schools (also false) and better contributions to (let's just say) the society (no points for guessing - also false).
But, when someone points out how all these assumptions are incorrect or at the least extremely debatable, you call it desperation? One would expect law students to back up an argument with some persuasive facts! Not a cleverly placed footnote which reads "WELL KNOWN FACT".
Coming to that - I especially did like the way someone made an attempt to end a comment with that small print "WELL-KNOWN FACT" in the hope that someone out there might actually fall for it. Wake-up, you fool, kids actually DO fall for such gimmicks. (remember the problem most people had with the India Today & Outlook rankings?)
On ALL of the above counts, NUJS has performed better. NALSham is an average university with a lot of cash tucked away which it splurges on infrastructure & to print advertorials. All in all, everything is a sham. You're absolutely right - even students from C-grade schools can get into Harvard if they work hard enough. My point exactly. At NALSham, you will find a few of these.
The ONLY thing I've seen NALSham do good at is participating in every known / unknown moot imaginable. And that is NOT the only benchmark that anyone would set to ascertain the "topness" of a top law school. (Btw, note: NUJS has done phenomenally well at moots too - so it doesn't give NALSham any lead there. In an "off" year, NUJS was declared an MPL champion by legallyindia on account of the quality, not quantity, of the moots won just a few months back!)
The NALSham students I've PERSONALLY met have had only complaints about their university. They were lured by that expensive looking infrastructure, the washing machines, etc (not realizing that when you live in a jungle, it's more of a necessity!) - and now they crib about not having a life in the middle of nowhere in a place where your day practically ends at 7pm! They said - they were driven up the wall and forced to study because there was little else to do.
Granted, NUJS lacks infrastructure, and its trying to make up for it. That's been our only complaint. Not because it's bad - Indian university standards, it's quite remarkable. But, we think it can be better. But how far can you stretch this point to pull down NUJS in anyone's books? NLS lacks infrastructure too. Give anyone a choice between NLS and NALSham, they'd pick NLS ANY given day.
I'm just sick of students posting random crap online and misleading readers by trying to pass-off anything they conjure up as a "WELL KNOWN FACT"!
@ Kian -
Please do moderate these posts. How are these comments (read: slugfest) contributing to your report at all?
If I am correct law firms cannot hire accountants - unless of course they are qualified to practise law as well.
As to which college is better of the two...the debate is as old as the colleges themeselves. In 2004 The LST forum were the proud hosters of such slugfests. In 2010 its LegallyIndia.
Let there be peace. And Oh! Why are we forgetting the students. Congratulations to them. They worked their asses of to be better than their peers (whether at NUJS or NALSAR or whatever goddam place) and thats why they are the pocketing crisp exciting moolah.
I am sure the thus recruited NALSARites didn't care one bit about Sham or Noojies about NUTS. They cared about things like CGPA, internships and being proactive at whatever place they were in...a 40 acre beautiful place miles away from civilisation or a 4 acre claustrophobic place in the poshest of areas (thats what critics call nalsar's and nujs's locations)
the joker posting pro-NUJS messages is a [...] student who is the butt of ridicule in college. he has a nickname in college that is too vulgar to post here. this clown does not reflect the average NUJS student. please do not take offence
the average NUJS student does not waste their time posting silly messages denigrating a fine institution like NALSAR. we prefer to spend our time constructively by playing football...on our computers.
i agree with LegalPoet.. i wish i was studying at NUJS or NALSAR.. looks like students there do not know the worth of what they have in their hands..
I love how you decided to work out that comparison.
Take a bunch of colleges your students got into, and then see if any NALSARian got in.
Did you possibly consider that there are other Ivy league universities? Or the possibility that there were several more that did get in and decided not to pursue that option?
Have you heard of Yale and Harvard? Yes? Well in that case, that's where we've been going? As for Oxford the number of acceptances was 4 out of the 5 that did apply.
The other places we've been getting in..NYU, the Fletcher School of diplomacy, Columbia, NUS, and yes all the ivy leagues. And no, Kings College and LSE don't count as Ivy League.
I'm so embarrassed for you right now.
This debate is ridiculous.And pointless.
Congrats to everyone who got a job. From both colleges.
Can we leave it at that?
How about some good old dignified silence from both ends now?
Please. We prefer to be called Naxals.
We're elite that way.
Sorry, but you've got it wrong. LI didn't carry this story (so I don't know if my comment will be moderated? I sure hope not..), but another website did. (And I'm saying this only so that it's clear that I'm not cooking up these figures / conducting any of my own research that you can call prejudiced.)
A comparison between NLS / NUJS / NALSAR for last years' batch:
ALL Foreign Universities -
Oxford - NLS 3, NUJS 1, NALSAR 2
NYU - NUJS 1, NALSAR 1
LSE - NUJS 1, NALSAR 0
Kings - NUJS 4, NALSAR 1
Berkeley - NUJS 2, NALSAR 0
Cornell - NUJS 1, NALSAR 0
UCL - NUJS 1, NALSAR 0
SOAS - NUJS 2, NALSAR 0
Queen Mary - NUJS 1, NALSAR 0
Vanderbilt - NUJS 1, NALSAR 0
Fletcher - NUJS 0, NALSAR 1
Total - NLS 3, NUJS 15, NALSAR 5
Other areas
Law Firms - NLS 31, NUJS 38, NALSAR 22
Companies - NLS 16, NUJS 13, NALSAR 21
Litigation - NLS 7, NUJS 8, NALSAR 9
Academic Research - NUJS 3, NALSAR 0
Training Contracts - NLS 9, NUJS 3, NALSAR 4
Civil Services - NLS 3, NUJS 4, NALSAR 5
As for total recruitments, both NUJS & NALSAR managed to place roughly 95% of the students. NALSAR's batch had around 80 students, NUJS had around 90 students.
I'm afraid, you shouldn't have been embarrassed for #35, but for yourself! These figures must have been true for when the report was prepared, so there might have been changes on BOTH sides after that date. Nonetheless, this is an unbiased third party report. Ouch!
[Legal website Bar & Bench posted the report here bit.ly/cHNX74 -Ed]
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