2013 Nalsarites bag record 8 foreign firm offers & LLMs, as 74 out of 80 students accounted for under ‘gloomy’ year’s ‘evolved’ RCC

Nalsar Hyderabad
Nalsar Hyderabad
Nalsar Hyderabad RCC “confident” it will continue 100% recruitment record.

Nalsar Hyderabad has placed 66 out of 80 students graduating from the law school this year after its recruitment coordination committee (RCC) secured 69 job offers for its members to date, while eight will go on to take LLM degrees abroad.

The lion’s share of offers came from 13 domestic law firms that offered a total of 31 jobs, but foreign law firms set a recent Nalsar record with eight job offers – last year Allen & Overy and Linklaters hired three in total, in 2011 four offers came in from abroad, matching the total offers in 2010 and 2009.

This year Linklaters made three offers, Herbert Smith two, and Allen & Overy and White & Case one each between a total of seven students. Three of those students also received offers by one domestic firm each, while one also received an offer from Ashurst that was not accepted.

RCC subscribers also won five public sector jobs in their cities of choice, while litigating seniors recruited through the college placement process for the first time.

Early bird catches

The number of student subscribers this year was “the largest ever”, according to the RCC, which consisted of Student Bar Council (SBC) president Mirza Saaib Beg, Rhea Mathew, Varun Vaish, Swati Singh, Rigzen Yangdol, Sourav Roy, Kunal Singh, Megha Katheria and Prianca Ravichander.

“Nalsar’s 100 per cent record on recruitment is guaranteed to continue,” said the RCC in an email. “More significantly, the strategic evolution that has brought us success in a tough period has left the university with a considerably enlarged recruitment base that will stand it in good stead for years to come for all subsequent RCCs.”

The recruitment for the currently graduating batch began on 7 April 2012 – ahead of any other national law school last year – kicking off with 15 offers on day zero. By the end of their fourth year, a total of 29 job offers were in hand.

However, when the RCC was formed in March of 2012, the “recruiting environment in the market ranged from conservative to gloomy”, said the RCC. Their response was to diversify and increase the pool of recruiters, doubling the total number and also contacting senior counsel directly to hire through the RCC.

There are another two weeks to go before the RCC will wrap up this year’s placement process and it has already trumped the batch of 2012 which secured total 43 job offers for its 43 subscribers out of a class of 72.

Keener law firms

Domestic law firms continued to take the biggest slice of Nalsar talent, with 38 job offers from a longer recruiter list than in 2012 as the regulars reduced their intakes.

Last year’s largest Nalsar recruiter Luthra & Luthra that made nine offers was missing from the scene, but Amarchand picked up the slack with nine offers made.

AZB & Partners made six offers (one fewer than last year), Khaitan & Co two, with one offer letter coming from each of J Sagar Associates (JSA) and Trilegal.

The numbers got a fillip with the presence of Nishith Desai Associates (2), Pathak & Associates (2), Talwar Thakore & Associates (1), S&R Associates (1), Samvad (erstwhile Narasappa Doraswamy & Raja) (1), Poovayya & Co (1), Dave & Girish & Co (1), HSB Partners (1), and Crestlaw Partners (1) this year.

On the house

Companies made 17 job offers, with 10 coming from the private sector and six from PSUs. One offer was made by publisher Lexis Nexis.

ICICI Bank and the ITC hospitality group each made three offers, Wipro selected two students, and both Hero Motor Corp and Hinduja extended one offer.

Among the PSUs, the Power Grip Corporation took two students, and one offer each was made by Hindustan Zinc, MECON, the AP Metro Water Board, and the Rashtriya Ispat Nigam Limited.

The RCC said that “for the first time” they followed a “bottom up instead of a top down” approach for PSUs by asking subscribers for their city preferences, accommodating one student’s request for a Ranchi-based position, for example, which they were eventually able to satisfy with “one of the most reputed PSUs” in the city leveraging the RCC’s personal contacts.

In the process they rejected offers from up to five PSUs where eventually job profiles were far out of the way and remuneration too little for students.

Institutionalising non-institutions

Breaking tradition, six students secured offers from senior advocates through the RCC this time instead of independently. Two others joined litigation boutique firms.

Credence Law Associates and CKR Associates each made an offer.

Two students joined seniors in the Supreme Court and one each in the Delhi and Mumbai high courts, in Hyderabad and in Chennai.

“We explained to senior advocates that national law universities were set up to produce better lawyers and improve the quality of advocates joining the bar and while we have committees formed to streamline recruitment into corporate houses, no such institutionalized support and streamlined process was available for joining the bar,” the RCC said via email.

One RCC member said that they would have preferred for senior advocates to conduct interviews based on the subscribers’ resumes, but seniors were not yet entirely convinced to hire outside the intern crowd they had personally known. He said that the RCC planned on visiting various bar associations in future to convince advocates otherwise.

Judicial clerkship

Two clerkship positions were secured with Supreme Court Justice Murlidhar while five other interviews were also lined up.

LLM

Eight students, including Rhodes scholar Arushi Garg, may be headed to Oxford University (3), University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) (2), Cambridge University (2), and the London School of Economics (LSE) (1).

Seven out of the nine RCC core members were made job offers, and one crossed the LLM admission hurdle at UCLA.

Offers made to Nalsar 2013 graduating batch

Firm / company / recruiterNumber of offers
Linklaters3 (3 training contracts (TCs); 5 vacation schemes)
Herbert Smith2 (2 TCs; 3 vac schemes)
Allen & Overy1
Ashurst(1 TC offered but not confirmed as student opted for other TC. This is not counted for our total of 68).
White & Case1 (Only Vacation Scheme- not counted for total offers)
Amarchand Mangaldas9
AZB & Partners6
Khaitan and Co2
J Sagar and Associates (JSA)2
Trilegal1
Securities and Exchange Board of India2
Talwar Thakore & Associates1
S&R Associates1
ICICI Bank3
ITC3
Pathak & Associates (P&A)2
Nishith Desai Associates2
Samvad (Narsappa Doraswamy and Raju)1
Poovayya Associates1
Dave & Girish1
HSB Partners1
Credence Law Associates1
Centre for Good Governance2
Power Grid Corporation2
Wipro2
Hinduja Group1
Hindustan Zinc1
Hero Motor Corp1
Rashtriya Ispat Nigam Limited (Vishakapatnam-Vizag Steel)1
AP Metropolitan Cities Water Board1
Teach for India1
Lexis Nexis1
MECON Ltd1
Crest Law Partners1
CKR Associates1
Justice Muralidhar Judicial Clerkship2 (5 more interviews pending for clerkship for SC)
LitigationDelhi: 3 (2 SC; 1 HC) Hyderabad: 1 Mumbai: 1 Chennai: 1
Total offers (as of 24 April 2013)69 (excluding vacation schemes)
Individual students with offers66 (excluding overlapping offers with foreign firms)
Higher studies
UCLA2
LSE1
Oxford3 (including One Rhodes scholar)
Cambridge2
TOTAL8

Source: Nalsar RCC

Comments

Lawyer 24 Apr 2013, 08:59
+4 -1
Kian, once again you did not cover the placements of the LLM Programmes.. :(
Scooter 24 Apr 2013, 13:28
+2 -2
Kian will start a new website for LLM's. Dont worry.
Right! 24 Apr 2013, 13:48
+5 -1
[quote name="Scooter"]LLM's.[/quote]

Only after they learn how to use apostrophe S.
Scooter 25 Apr 2013, 06:30
+3 -3
Conceived by her Majesty herself! Are you?
Meher 24 Apr 2013, 09:07
+3 -3
Congrats NALSAR! Good going!
RPG 24 Apr 2013, 09:11
+3 -2
Well done NALSAR! Keep it up!!
Guest 24 Apr 2013, 09:14
+4 -0
Faaaaaaad!!
Leverage Stud 24 Apr 2013, 11:51
+3 -0
Mirza bhai, Mirza bhai!!

"leveraged contacts".. thoda contacts juniors ko bhi dena bhai..

Biryaani treat to banta hai bhai!!
VeeruKaSaaya 24 Apr 2013, 12:57
+0 -0
[quote name="Guest"]Faaaaaaad!![/quote]

Clearly a lot of effort has gone into it. And the credit goes to you all- Rhea, Saaib, Swati. A big thank you.
Guest 24 Apr 2013, 09:30
+3 -0
Kian, NALSAR set the record for maximum number of foreign placements in 2008 with more than ten students from that batch placed with foreign law firms.
kianganz 24 Apr 2013, 09:38
+1 -0
Interesting.

But yes, but that was a different era, pre global financial crisis and all when there were only 5 national law schools or something! :)

Hence we said 'recent' record...
Class of 2008 24 Apr 2013, 18:47
+3 -0
[quote name="kianganz"]Interesting.

But yes, but that was a different era, pre global financial crisis and all when there were only 5 national law schools or something! :)

Hence we said 'recent' record...[/quote]

Dude, Kian you making us sound really old man. Don't do this.
? 24 Apr 2013, 09:40
+1 -0
Didn't this batch get hired in April last year?
lolz 27 Apr 2013, 13:28
+0 -0
sadly, not.
NALSAR Alumnus 24 Apr 2013, 10:13
+2 -0
Great job NALSAR RCC!
NLUD Singh 24 Apr 2013, 10:39
+2 -12
NLU Delhi is still ahead of Nalsar in MPL Listing...
Guest 24 Apr 2013, 10:59
+29 -1
Moot karne se paet nahi bharta, Sahab.
get over it 24 Apr 2013, 11:15
+4 -1
Seriously get a life
Bruce Wayne 24 Apr 2013, 18:50
+3 -0
[quote name="NLUD Singh"]NLU Delhi is still ahead of Nalsar in MPL Listing...[/quote]

You stink of a Troll.

Anyway, whatever makes you happy kid.
Nalsar!! 24 Apr 2013, 10:54
+4 -0
This year's rcc has pulled out all the stops!! Great job Mirza!
Mr. President 24 Apr 2013, 10:55
+5 -0
Mr. President leads the way! What attitude boss! Great job with the RCC.
NAWABI RCC 24 Apr 2013, 11:00
+4 -0
This is the richest RCC I've seen in years!
Great job guys!



In the process they rejected offers from up to five PSUs where eventually job profiles were far out of the way and remuneration too little for students.


Show them who's boss!
Reject those OFFERS 24 Apr 2013, 11:56
+5 -1
NALSAR doesn't need to meet the requirements of recruiters.. RECRUITERS need to meet our standards!

Attitude! Kya Baat Hai!
So happy for you guys..


[quote name="NAWABI RCC"]This is the richest RCC I've seen in years!
Great job guys!



In the process they rejected offers from up to five PSUs where eventually job profiles were far out of the way and remuneration too little for students.


Show them who's boss![/quote]
Retain THIS RCC 24 Apr 2013, 11:08
+6 -0
This year's RCC should be retained by Nalsar for juniors also!! Superb show you guys!
Guest 29 Apr 2013, 03:29
+0 -1
Not required, actually. Turns out, the new RCC is more awesome!! Placed 26 students on day zero itself!!
Whatte Stud RCC 24 Apr 2013, 11:53
+5 -0
In a market when law schools are literally struggling to place people, you come out with such a bang!

Much proud RCC 2013, MUCH PROUD

Aaj Veeru ka seena gaarv se phool gaya
Reality! 24 Apr 2013, 12:01
+7 -4
Everyting is a farce. If you are in NALSAR, you know that these stats sucks. Reality is that internally every student in nalsar knows how bad the RCC was struggling to get the job done. The administration knows what all it had to do get the losers placed plus some law firms never heard of, may be tier 20
No LL.M. Placements. I heard in the orientation programme LL.M. students are clearly told that our priority is LL.B. University cant place the LL.M.'s and university finds it hard to place he LL.B. to add to the woes the porn websites are again blocked.... WTF

But LL.B. did not get the job done....
SmallMindSMALLcollege 24 Apr 2013, 13:03
+7 -4
A- If you are in any law college, you will know that this year has been one of the hardest years for any RCC. Despite that this NALSAR has shown a fabulous placement run.

B- The administration doesn't do anything for placements. If at all anything, the individual members of the Committee use their personal contacts.

C- tier 20?? haha- you clearly have no knowledge of the legal market. Please focus on getting your college/ batch placed and then we can talk. Post near 70 figures and then we can talk.

D- clearly porn is all you care about. If NALSAR had gotten Naughty AMERICA to recruit, you'd be dancing with joy, sadly for you, law school reputations are not built on porn access.

Give credit where it is due. Individual members of the RCC have made a herculean effort this year. It merits praise.




[quote name="Reality!"]Everyting is a farce. If you are in NALSAR, you know that these stats sucks. Reality is that internally every student in nalsar knows how bad the RCC was struggling to get the job done. The administration knows what all it had to do get the losers placed plus some law firms never heard of, may be tier 20
No LL.M. Placements. I heard in the orientation programme LL.M. students are clearly told that our priority is LL.B. University cant place the LL.M.'s and university finds it hard to place he LL.B. to add to the woes the porn websites are again blocked.... WTF

But LL.B. did not get the job done....[/quote]
Could have crashed and Burnt 24 Apr 2013, 13:33
+2 -0
hardest was 2009 batch! cant beat that!
impressed 24 Apr 2013, 20:23
+5 -1
[quote name="Could have crashed and Burnt"]hardest was 2009 batch! cant beat that![/quote]

if impressive RCC efforts are what we're talking about - -

http://www.legallyindia.com/201106082149/Law-schools/result-for-all-75-nujs-grads-into-desk-jobs-plus-3-foreign-firms-5-llms-2-start-ups

[u][b]93 offers[/b][/u] for 75 students during the financial crisis era. here we're talking about 69 offers



Kian,

Are RCCs allowed to include offers from advocates in recruitment data?? If so, all NLUs and other law universities - including those in Patna, Patiala and God knows where will have 100% recruitment and 10 times the "job offers" than the number of students!! Arranging for placement with advocates is good, but including such information in your calculations is too premature and subjective to make an assessment of any 'offer'.

For the sake of statistics, one cannot equate an offer from an organization (an actual 'offer' after a thorough assessment) with any unnamed advocate in India accepting a student as his junior (with no benchmark for any fruitful conclusion from the data).

If NLS students get 1 offer from Linklaters and 2 from A&O, and NALSAR gets 1 offer from Linklaters and 28 from 'litigation', NLS would have 3 offers and NALSAR would have 30 offers and NALSAR's placements would be statistically 10 times more than NLS?!!

Easy to inflate figures like this and I think this reduces credibility of reporting by a notch. With that in mind, I think calculations should mention the number going into litigation/ JC, etc separately but not count them towards 'offers' because there is zero accountability.

This list actually adds up closer to 60 or so offers (total I think is 68 and not 69, and JC and litigation (8 offers) should not be counted as offers).

Having said that, great effort NALSAR RCC! Keep up the good work!
Veer Singh Ki Jai 24 Apr 2013, 23:35
+2 -2
a) The offers from senior advocates were coordinated by the RCC. That is why its a big deal.

b) even if you dont count them, Nalsar RCC still places 62 people.

c) As of today morning, they have clocked at 72 offers over 68 people, so if we cut the litigation, they have placed 68 students.

d) They have not placed students with some random lawyers in some obscure part of india and boosted numbers- for your information, all the lawyers are very prominent. One of the SC seniors was one of the first women to be designated as SENIOR COUNCIL by the SC. Need I say more?

e) 93 offers for 75 students is bad planning. You've wasted about 20 offers. The nalsar Rcc has wasted only 3 offers through great planning and execution.

RCC 2013, we're really proud of you guys!
great job!!

[quote name="impressed"][quote name="Could have crashed and Burnt"]hardest was 2009 batch! cant beat that![/quote]

if impressive RCC efforts are what we're talking about - -

http://www.legallyindia.com/201106082149/Law-schools/result-for-all-75-nujs-grads-into-desk-jobs-plus-3-foreign-firms-5-llms-2-start-ups

[u][b]93 offers[/b][/u] for 75 students during the financial crisis era. here we're talking about 69 offers



Kian,

Are RCCs allowed to include offers from advocates in recruitment data?? If so, all NLUs and other law universities - including those in Patna, Patiala and God knows where will have 100% recruitment and 10 times the "job offers" than the number of students!! Arranging for placement with advocates is good, but including such information in your calculations is too premature and subjective to make an assessment of any 'offer'.

For the sake of statistics, one cannot equate an offer from an organization (an actual 'offer' after a thorough assessment) with any unnamed advocate in India accepting a student as his junior (with no benchmark for any fruitful conclusion from the data).

If NLS students get 1 offer from Linklaters and 2 from A&O, and NALSAR gets 1 offer from Linklaters and 28 from 'litigation', NLS would have 3 offers and NALSAR would have 30 offers and NALSAR's placements would be statistically 10 times more than NLS?!!

Easy to inflate figures like this and I think this reduces credibility of reporting by a notch. With that in mind, I think calculations should mention the number going into litigation/ JC, etc separately but not count them towards 'offers' because there is zero accountability.

This list actually adds up closer to 60 or so offers (total I think is 68 and not 69, and JC and litigation (8 offers) should not be counted as offers).

Having said that, great effort NALSAR RCC! Keep up the good work![/quote]
UPDATE 25 Apr 2013, 01:40
+0 -1
AND RECRUITMENTS ARE NOT OVER YET


[quote name="Veer Singh Ki Jai"]a) The offers from senior advocates were coordinated by the RCC. That is why its a big deal.

b) even if you dont count them, Nalsar RCC still places 62 people.

c) As of today morning, they have clocked at 72 offers over 68 people, so if we cut the litigation, they have placed 68 students.

d) They have not placed students with some random lawyers in some obscure part of india and boosted numbers- for your information, all the lawyers are very prominent. One of the SC seniors was one of the first women to be designated as SENIOR COUNCIL by the SC. Need I say more?

e) 93 offers for 75 students is bad planning. You've wasted about 20 offers. The nalsar Rcc has wasted only 3 offers through great planning and execution.

RCC 2013, we're really proud of you guys!
great job!!

[quote name="impressed"][quote name="Could have crashed and Burnt"]hardest was 2009 batch! cant beat that![/quote]

if impressive RCC efforts are what we're talking about - -

http://www.legallyindia.com/201106082149/Law-schools/result-for-all-75-nujs-grads-into-desk-jobs-plus-3-foreign-firms-5-llms-2-start-ups

[u][b]93 offers[/b][/u] for 75 students during the financial crisis era. here we're talking about 69 offers



Kian,

Are RCCs allowed to include offers from advocates in recruitment data?? If so, all NLUs and other law universities - including those in Patna, Patiala and God knows where will have 100% recruitment and 10 times the "job offers" than the number of students!! Arranging for placement with advocates is good, but including such information in your calculations is too premature and subjective to make an assessment of any 'offer'.

For the sake of statistics, one cannot equate an offer from an organization (an actual 'offer' after a thorough assessment) with any unnamed advocate in India accepting a student as his junior (with no benchmark for any fruitful conclusion from the data).

If NLS students get 1 offer from Linklaters and 2 from A&O, and NALSAR gets 1 offer from Linklaters and 28 from 'litigation', NLS would have 3 offers and NALSAR would have 30 offers and NALSAR's placements would be statistically 10 times more than NLS?!!

Easy to inflate figures like this and I think this reduces credibility of reporting by a notch. With that in mind, I think calculations should mention the number going into litigation/ JC, etc separately but not count them towards 'offers' because there is zero accountability.

This list actually adds up closer to 60 or so offers (total I think is 68 and not 69, and JC and litigation (8 offers) should not be counted as offers).

Having said that, great effort NALSAR RCC! Keep up the good work![/quote][/quote]
More UPDATE!! 25 Apr 2013, 01:59
+0 -0
ITS NOT 72 OFFERS ANYMORE. Just got confirmation- 3-4 companies made a staggering 13 offers. Nalsar has crossed 80+ offers already!

PLEASE GET RCC TO GIVE YOU EXACT DETAILS.


[quote name="Veer Singh Ki Jai"]a) The offers from senior advocates were coordinated by the RCC. That is why its a big deal.

b) even if you dont count them, Nalsar RCC still places 62 people.

c) As of today morning, they have clocked at 72 offers over 68 people, so if we cut the litigation, they have placed 68 students.

d) They have not placed students with some random lawyers in some obscure part of india and boosted numbers- for your information, all the lawyers are very prominent. One of the SC seniors was one of the first women to be designated as SENIOR COUNCIL by the SC. Need I say more?

e) 93 offers for 75 students is bad planning. You've wasted about 20 offers. The nalsar Rcc has wasted only 3 offers through great planning and execution.

RCC 2013, we're really proud of you guys!
great job!!

[quote name="impressed"][quote name="Could have crashed and Burnt"]hardest was 2009 batch! cant beat that![/quote]

if impressive RCC efforts are what we're talking about - -

http://www.legallyindia.com/201106082149/Law-schools/result-for-all-75-nujs-grads-into-desk-jobs-plus-3-foreign-firms-5-llms-2-start-ups

[u][b]93 offers[/b][/u] for 75 students during the financial crisis era. here we're talking about 69 offers



Kian,

Are RCCs allowed to include offers from advocates in recruitment data?? If so, all NLUs and other law universities - including those in Patna, Patiala and God knows where will have 100% recruitment and 10 times the "job offers" than the number of students!! Arranging for placement with advocates is good, but including such information in your calculations is too premature and subjective to make an assessment of any 'offer'.

For the sake of statistics, one cannot equate an offer from an organization (an actual 'offer' after a thorough assessment) with any unnamed advocate in India accepting a student as his junior (with no benchmark for any fruitful conclusion from the data).

If NLS students get 1 offer from Linklaters and 2 from A&O, and NALSAR gets 1 offer from Linklaters and 28 from 'litigation', NLS would have 3 offers and NALSAR would have 30 offers and NALSAR's placements would be statistically 10 times more than NLS?!!

Easy to inflate figures like this and I think this reduces credibility of reporting by a notch. With that in mind, I think calculations should mention the number going into litigation/ JC, etc separately but not count them towards 'offers' because there is zero accountability.

This list actually adds up closer to 60 or so offers (total I think is 68 and not 69, and JC and litigation (8 offers) should not be counted as offers).

Having said that, great effort NALSAR RCC! Keep up the good work![/quote][/quote]
impressed 25 Apr 2013, 21:43
+3 -1
[quote name="Veer Singh Ki Jai"]

a) The offers from senior advocates were coordinated by the RCC. That is why its a big deal.

b) even if you dont count them, Nalsar RCC still places 62 people.

c) As of today morning, they have clocked at 72 offers over 68 people, so if we cut the litigation, they have placed 68 students.

d) They have not placed students with some random lawyers in some obscure part of india and boosted numbers- for your information, all the lawyers are very prominent. One of the SC seniors was one of the first women to be designated as SENIOR COUNCIL by the SC. Need I say more?

e) 93 offers for 75 students is bad planning. You've wasted about 20 offers. The nalsar Rcc has wasted only 3 offers through great planning and execution.

RCC 2013, we're really proud of you guys!
great job!!
[/quote]

a - there, there.. you clearly didn't get the point

b - is what I said

c - that's great news, congratulations, and I hope there are many more offers and the RCC in the coming batches does even better

d - again, you totally missed the point.. read that comment again, will you?

e - 93 offers for 75 studentss, i.e. more choice for students and everyone placed, when at a law school which isn't NALSAR is "bad" planning and execution, and it's okay for NALSAR to accept compliments from NALSARites about students being spoiled for choice and rejecting 3 offers! ..so, in your little world, whatever your RCC does is the "best" planning and execution and others are quite obviously idiots whose efforts you wouldn't be caught dead acknowledging, right?

there, my friend, you made a joke of yourself and an embarrassment out of a winning moment for your law school and RCC. here I am applauding the work done by the hard-working guys in your RCC with a dose of an honest opinion, and then there's you making an ass of an argument.

if it calms your silly emotional fit, it wasn't 'my' planning and they weren't 'my' offers to waste, to begin with - I went to a law school further down south, and it did teach me to appreciate efforts of others. It doesn't pinch me to say that 93 offers in a bad market was a tremendous feat.

anyway, good luck to the NALSAR RCC!

as for you - do grow up and move beyond petty mud-slinging games - it doesn't bode well for your own law school when such vitriol seems to be so very, very expected of a NALSAR thread.

accept a compliment where it's given, and give it gracefully where it's due.
Erm 26 Apr 2013, 05:18
+0 -2
The comment you are responding to didn't really sound like an emotional fit to me. Perhaps one of the arguments it was making was contradictory (although there is still a way to rationalise it, which I don't want to attempt), and it deservedly needs to be pointed out. But your response has a lot more vitriol than it warrants. Ending a comment with an ad hominem argument certainly doesn't bode well for you. And I am sensible enough not to elevate it to an institutional trait.
..ahuh.. 28 Apr 2013, 20:32
+0 -0
[quote name="Erm"]The comment you are responding to didn't really sound like an emotional fit to me. Perhaps one of the arguments it was making was contradictory (although there is still a way to rationalise it, which I don't want to attempt), and it deservedly needs to be pointed out. But your response has a lot more vitriol than it warrants. Ending a comment with an ad hominem argument certainly doesn't bode well for you. And I am sensible enough not to elevate it to an institutional trait.[/quote]

the response to which the response to which you responded sounded like a pretty unwarranted response to me!

AND your response to what you alleged was an argumentum ad hominem response was an argumentum ad hominem to quoque!

That's all just very silly.
Erm 30 Apr 2013, 16:36
+0 -0
[quote name="..ahuh.."][quote name="Erm"]The comment you are responding to didn't really sound like an emotional fit to me. Perhaps one of the arguments it was making was contradictory (although there is still a way to rationalise it, which I don't want to attempt), and it deservedly needs to be pointed out. But your response has a lot more vitriol than it warrants. Ending a comment with an ad hominem argument certainly doesn't bode well for you. And I am sensible enough not to elevate it to an institutional trait.[/quote]

the response to which the response to which you responded sounded like a pretty unwarranted response to me!

AND your response to what you alleged was an argumentum ad hominem response was an argumentum ad hominem to quoque!

That's all just very silly.[/quote]

Tut tut. YOUR final response is tu quoque, not mine. I wasn't advocating for Veer Singh ki Jai, just questioning your tenuous claim to the moral high ground.

Keep it accurate, bruh.
Veer Singh Ki Jai 24 Apr 2013, 23:42
+0 -2
Dude, what inflation? We're talking about 6 in litigation, here not 30. Dont exaggerate, debate. But dont be illogical amma!


[quote name="impressed"][quote name="Could have crashed and Burnt"]hardest was 2009 batch! cant beat that![/quote]

if impressive RCC efforts are what we're talking about - -

http://www.legallyindia.com/201106082149/Law-schools/result-for-all-75-nujs-grads-into-desk-jobs-plus-3-foreign-firms-5-llms-2-start-ups

[u][b]93 offers[/b][/u] for 75 students during the financial crisis era. here we're talking about 69 offers



Kian,

Are RCCs allowed to include offers from advocates in recruitment data?? If so, all NLUs and other law universities - including those in Patna, Patiala and God knows where will have 100% recruitment and 10 times the "job offers" than the number of students!! Arranging for placement with advocates is good, but including such information in your calculations is too premature and subjective to make an assessment of any 'offer'.

For the sake of statistics, one cannot equate an offer from an organization (an actual 'offer' after a thorough assessment) with any unnamed advocate in India accepting a student as his junior (with no benchmark for any fruitful conclusion from the data).

If NLS students get 1 offer from Linklaters and 2 from A&O, and NALSAR gets 1 offer from Linklaters and 28 from 'litigation', NLS would have 3 offers and NALSAR would have 30 offers and NALSAR's placements would be statistically 10 times more than NLS?!!

Easy to inflate figures like this and I think this reduces credibility of reporting by a notch. With that in mind, I think calculations should mention the number going into litigation/ JC, etc separately but not count them towards 'offers' because there is zero accountability.

This list actually adds up closer to 60 or so offers (total I think is 68 and not 69, and JC and litigation (8 offers) should not be counted as offers).

Having said that, great effort NALSAR RCC! Keep up the good work![/quote]
Reality! 24 Apr 2013, 13:53
+0 -1
@all
It was just a silly comment. I started a debate I guess. Well I go to this school and I do realize the amount of effort this years RCC has put in. Was kidding. [Don't trace may IP or do :)


Good night!
LALLAMS? 24 Apr 2013, 13:04
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SERIOUSLY, who cares about the LLMs. But since you do, let me tell you, their recruitment are not done till end of July. Hold your horses. They will post soon as well.


[quote name="Reality!"]Everyting is a farce. If you are in NALSAR, you know that these stats sucks. Reality is that internally every student in nalsar knows how bad the RCC was struggling to get the job done. The administration knows what all it had to do get the losers placed plus some law firms never heard of, may be tier 20
No LL.M. Placements. I heard in the orientation programme LL.M. students are clearly told that our priority is LL.B. University cant place the LL.M.'s and university finds it hard to place he LL.B. to add to the woes the porn websites are again blocked.... WTF

But LL.B. did not get the job done....[/quote]
Go RCC 2013! 24 Apr 2013, 13:05
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Excellent job! It is commendable how hard the RCC worked just so that everyone could get a job. Given the slump in the market, it was not easy to secure these many offers. This year we have seen a huge increase in the number of firms/corporates that came down to campus for recruitment. And if you are from NALSAR, you know that all the credit for this year's recruitment figures goes to the RCC. Thank you so much for your effort :)
Nls 24 Apr 2013, 16:02
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I bet each one of the nalsarites would have given an arm and a leg to get into nlsiu Bangalore
Sure. 24 Apr 2013, 17:26
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Sure. There, I said it. Happy now?

I bet you would have given an arm and a leg to have our RCC.


[quote name="Nls"]I bet each one of the nalsarites would have given an arm and a leg to get into nlsiu Bangalore[/quote]
LLM 24 Apr 2013, 17:31
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PLEASE ADD ONE MORE TO THE LIST FOR HIGHER STUDIES- SOAS, London.
Nalsar 24 Apr 2013, 17:59
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[quote name="Nls"]I bet each one of the nalsarites would have given an arm and a leg to get into nlsiu Bangalore[/quote]

Here, have my leg: http://goo.gl/L2qAh
@ Legally India 24 Apr 2013, 17:21
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NLASAR did not have overlapping offers with foreign firms. There were only 2-3 overlapping offers on day zero- Indian firms.
Point of clarification 24 Apr 2013, 17:41
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The Nalsar RCC did not allow students with TCs to sit for Day Zero. There was no overlap between the TCs and indian firms. There was an overlap of a few students on day zero due to simultaneous interviews. No other overlaps.
NALSAR 24 Apr 2013, 17:41
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This figure is a farce. The 66 offers that they show were given to not more than 50 students. If you see the actual number of people placed, it's not more than 50 at NALSAR. RCC has this bad tactic of counting 3 offers to the same individual on zero day as three, which in effect should be counted as one.

Anyway, i request you guys on RCC to wake up and get us job, rather than portraying a brighter picture of our college without any reality check!
Point of clarification 24 Apr 2013, 23:29
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There are 72 offers (as of today morning) over 68 students i.e now 68 students definitely have jobs in a batch where 9 people are going for LLM. and some for Civils. The figures are impressive to say the least.

Whichever law school you're from, go work a little hard to get placed and dont indulge in unnecessary gossip mongering. It will serve you better.

Or just contact our RCC. I hear they are experts at getting people placed. They may be able to give some love to you too.

[quote name="NALSAR"]This figure is a farce. The 66 offers that they show were given to not more than 50 students. If you see the actual number of people placed, it's not more than 50 at NALSAR. RCC has this bad tactic of counting 3 offers to the same individual on zero day as three, which in effect should be counted as one.

Anyway, i request you guys on RCC to wake up and get us job, rather than portraying a brighter picture of our college without any reality check![/quote]
WhyYouSuckSoBad 24 Apr 2013, 23:46
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Dont know which cllege you're from dude... because if you were actually from NALSAR, you'd see by the sheer number of treats and parties we're throwing that definitely over 67-70 people have jobs and then there are the people with LLMs. Dont just throw in a figure because your law school didn't do well.

Go and study/ ask you rcc to work.

Typing anonymous messages on a forum is not going to get you jobs.


[quote name="NALSAR"]This figure is a farce. The 66 offers that they show were given to not more than 50 students. If you see the actual number of people placed, it's not more than 50 at NALSAR. RCC has this bad tactic of counting 3 offers to the same individual on zero day as three, which in effect should be counted as one.

Anyway, i request you guys on RCC to wake up and get us job, rather than portraying a brighter picture of our college without any reality check![/quote]
Who has to wake up? 24 Apr 2013, 23:48
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Do you know that the number of people left on the nalsar RCC are only those who ALREADY have jobs. the RCC is just trying to get them BETTER jobs.

EVERYONE has a job in Nalsar. Rcc is not revealing this because they are waiting for better offers to be made. Above 9 lakhs for some subscribers.

If you really were in the RCC, you'd know this.
eATthis# 25 Apr 2013, 02:06
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a) ONLY 3 students on day zero got multiple offers
NO ONE ELSE

b) Dont know where you get your info from but when this LI report was published, 66 students in the batch of 2013 had jobs. FYI, they just confirmed 13 offers from 3-4 recruiters. So.. you do the math.

c) Ask your recruitment committee to be more efficient. That will be abetter strategy for you if you want a job. Or contact one of NALSAR's RCC members. Their names are given above. Add them on Facebook. They're really nice people. Especially Rhea and Saaib. I'm sure they will throw you a job.

d) Lastly, NALSAR has 80+ offers now. The REAL 100% record on placement is bound to continue!!



[quote name="NALSAR"]This figure is a farce. The 66 offers that they show were given to not more than 50 students. If you see the actual number of people placed, it's not more than 50 at NALSAR. RCC has this bad tactic of counting 3 offers to the same individual on zero day as three, which in effect should be counted as one.

Anyway, i request you guys on RCC to wake up and get us job, rather than portraying a brighter picture of our college without any reality check![/quote]
Guest 24 Apr 2013, 20:53
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We still love you 'NLS'. We are at a surplus..take some love.

XOXO
'THE'Batchof'13
Vijay 24 Apr 2013, 21:07
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Wait, whatever happened to National Law School students practicing in the courts?
UPDATE 24 Apr 2013, 23:53
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AS OF TODAY 25TH APRIL, NALSAR IS AT 72 OFFERS. 69 people have jobs. Contact the RCC for update. A company made 3 offers last night.
UPDATE on NALSAR RCC 25 Apr 2013, 01:47
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@ LEGALLY iNDIA

PLEASE CONTACT THE NALSAR RCC for an update. They have received 9-13 more offers from 4 companies since the information was given to you. The total is increased a lot!!

Not sure of confirmations from these 13.


[quote name="UPDATE"]AS OF TODAY 25TH APRIL, NALSAR IS AT 72 OFFERS. 69 people have jobs. Contact the RCC for update. A company made 3 offers last night.[/quote]
xxx 25 Apr 2013, 02:57
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Say what you will about the man, but Ranbir Singh deserves great credit for Nalsar's rise. What law schools need are good administrators. The reason why a lot of of the NLUs are struggling is because their VCs are arrogant morons who lack vision.
R Venkat Rao 25 Apr 2013, 11:42
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I agree!
S 26 Apr 2013, 07:30
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I completely agree. He is the reason why NALSAR is what it is today. Also do check out how good NLU-Delhi is doing these days. Again thanks to Mr. Singh. While I was in NALSAR, I cribbed a lot about the rules and regulations there, but when I look back now, I probably appreciate all the things he did.
Ingrigued 29 Apr 2013, 12:57
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It is really sad to see that people opting for litigation are not even counted towards computing placement figures. It is pathetic, in fact.

Most corporate teams in law firms do pretty crappy work. Litigation may not be lucrative initially but it is the real thing to do. You get to change the prevailing legal scenario.

If you want to/like to do corporate, then go ahead. To each his own. But, looking down upon litigation is just despicable.
Disappointed 29 Apr 2013, 17:55
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The money put forth by the government towards national law schools, should be diverted to establish chambers and proper working conditions for new litigating lawyers. The same could also be put to better use if the government hikes salaries of public prosecutors and other government appointed lawyers(or even the subordinate staff).

Law firms, on the other hand, should donate money to their respective law schools to keep them running.

There appears to be a major fallout in the present system.

The format of the CLAT exam needs a rethinking as well. There should be a interview criteria. Mugging up names of countries and currencies shouldn't be the key to admission in the top law schools of a country.

Present scenario:- Enter the national law school as a human being, leave as a typewriter for a law firm.
News 2 May 2013, 10:37
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"This year Linklaters made three offers, Herbert Smith two, and Allen & Overy and White & Case one each between a total of seven students. Three of those students also received offers by one domestic firm each, while one also received an offer from Ashurst that was not accepted."

The table says that White & Case did not make a job offer but only an internship.

This is a small example of how this RCC is making up stuff and adding a lot of "spin".
READ THE ARTICLE MAYBE 10 May 2013, 15:58
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A- THE WHITE AND CASE INTERNSHIP HAS NOT BEEN COUNTED IN OUR TOTAL.

B- The article is incorrect where it says that the students got offers from domestic firms. The NALSAR RCC 2013 did not allow students with foreign offers to sit for domestic firms. There was only an overlap of 3 students between domestic firms.

THE RCC 2013 doesn't require spin. Figures speak for themselves.


[quote name="News"]"This year Linklaters made three offers, Herbert Smith two, and Allen & Overy and White & Case one each between a total of seven students. Three of those students also received offers by one domestic firm each, while one also received an offer from Ashurst that was not accepted."

The table says that White & Case did not make a job offer but only an internship.

This is a small example of how this RCC is making up stuff and adding a lot of "spin".[/quote]
Guest 4 May 2013, 16:29
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what kian, there is no other law school which could complete its placement season....I guess, mot law schools are close to the end of their semesters