JSA hires NLSIU topper Promod Nair from Herbies as Bangalore disputes partner

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J Sagar Associates (JSA) has hired Herbert Smith senior associate Promod Nair as a salaried partner in Bangalore, specialising in international arbitration.

At Herbert Smith London he was part of the international arbitration group and he also acts as an arbitrator.

Nair graduated as a topper from NLSIU Bangalore in 2001, holds an LLM from University of Cambridge and is qualified as a solicitor advocate in England and Wales, which means that he enjoys higher rights of audience before the English courts.

JSA founding partner Jyoti Sagar said in a statement that Nair would add value to the firm’s dispute resolution practice.

Comments

Topper? 28 Oct 2011, 10:55
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After being in the profession for 10 years, legallyindia shouldnt be headlining the new JSA Partner as a "topper". That really doesnt matter now and professionals dont refer to their law school grades at this stage. While Cyril Shroff was a topper at GLC, he really would not be introduced as such. Not that Promod can be compared to Cyril Shroff - but you get the point.

Any event, its a good move for JSA and good luck to Promod.
SPoK 28 Oct 2011, 16:53
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I actually think its quite relevant. I mean what's your reason for saying such information is irrelevant. As far as I can glean from your comment, it is that "professional dont refer to their law school grades at this stage". Actually, you'd be surprised to know that most true "professionals" do. Go to an international law firms site and look up famous lawyers and you'd likely see that they graduated from XYZ University 2cum laude" or "summa cum laude" some 40 years ago. In fact, they often even mention the law school journals they served as editors for. There is a good reason for this, such information established the individual's pursuit of excellence. If he ahs topped, and has constantly performed well, why not? In light of this, no, I don't "get the point", in light of the "reasons" you offer and it is wholly unreasonable for you to criticize LI for reasonable reporting.

As for your Cyril Shroff example, my apologies, but he does not represent the ideal that one must compare everything. In fact, if Amarchand had a nice and fancy webstite, I am sure he wouldn't refrain from mentioning such information either. To make my point clearer, Paul Friedland, the head of White and Case's International Arbitration Practice, mentions that he was a "Kent Scholar" at Columbia, and to use your language - not that Cyril can be compared to Paul.
Topper? 29 Oct 2011, 04:41
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I think the issue raised was with headlining the article as such. The information is relevant, but that should not have been the headline. Its a personal view from an editing perspective, nothing on whether or not the info is relevant or not. For e.g. if Paul friedland was moving from White & Case, a headline which read "XYZ firm hires Kent Scholar Paul Friedland as Partner" would be quite silly. Dont you think?

[quote name="SPoK"]I actually think its quite relevant. I mean what's your reason for saying such information is irrelevant. As far as I can glean from your comment, it is that "professional dont refer to their law school grades at this stage". Actually, you'd be surprised to know that most true "professionals" do. Go to an international law firms site and look up famous lawyers and you'd likely see that they graduated from XYZ University 2cum laude" or "summa cum laude" some 40 years ago. In fact, they often even mention the law school journals they served as editors for. There is a good reason for this, such information established the individual's pursuit of excellence. If he ahs topped, and has constantly performed well, why not? In light of this, no, I don't "get the point", in light of the "reasons" you offer and it is wholly unreasonable for you to criticize LI for reasonable reporting.

As for your Cyril Shroff example, my apologies, but he does not represent the ideal that one must compare everything. In fact, if Amarchand had a nice and fancy webstite, I am sure he wouldn't refrain from mentioning such information either. To make my point clearer, Paul Friedland, the head of White and Case's International Arbitration Practice, mentions that he was a "Kent Scholar" at Columbia, and to use your language - not that Cyril can be compared to Paul.[/quote]
Topper? 29 Oct 2011, 04:43
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[quote name="SPoK"]I actually think its quite relevant. I mean what's your reason for saying such information is irrelevant. As far as I can glean from your comment, it is that "professional dont refer to their law school grades at this stage". Actually, you'd be surprised to know that most true "professionals" do. Go to an international law firms site and look up famous lawyers and you'd likely see that they graduated from XYZ University 2cum laude" or "summa cum laude" some 40 years ago. In fact, they often even mention the law school journals they served as editors for. There is a good reason for this, such information established the individual's pursuit of excellence. If he ahs topped, and has constantly performed well, why not? In light of this, no, I don't "get the point", in light of the "reasons" you offer and it is wholly unreasonable for you to criticize LI for reasonable reporting.

As for your Cyril Shroff example, my apologies, but he does not represent the ideal that one must compare everything. In fact, if Amarchand had a nice and fancy webstite, I am sure he wouldn't refrain from mentioning such information either. To make my point clearer, Paul Friedland, the head of White and Case's International Arbitration Practice, mentions that he was a "Kent Scholar" at Columbia, and to use your language - not that Cyril can be compared to Paul.[/quote]
Also, international lawyers refer to these things on their profile pages and normally this would be under theheading "education" or the like. News columns while reporting it, dont highlight those facts - or if they do, I think it looks silly.
kianganz 29 Oct 2011, 08:09
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In relation to the 'topper' debate, it was included in the headline for various reasons, although I accept that it could also have been excluded.

As loathe as I generally am to enter into a theoretical debate about headlines, which can go on forever:

1. Nair clearly has a strong academic track record (including a prize awarded at Cambridge, which we did not mention in the article).

2. Everything else relevant, except for the Herbies senior associate tag, was also included in the headline - why not include an extra bit of information that adds more context?

Best wishes
Kian
Topper? 29 Oct 2011, 13:24
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[quote name="kianganz"]In relation to the 'topper' debate, it was included in the headline for various reasons, although I accept that it could also have been excluded.

As loathe as I generally am to enter into a theoretical debate about headlines, which can go on forever:

1. Nair clearly has a strong academic track record (including a prize awarded at Cambridge, which we did not mention in the article).

2. Everything else relevant, except for the Herbies senior associate tag, was also included in the headline - why not include an extra bit of information that adds more context?

Best wishes
Kian[/quote]
Hi Kian, I dont think an editorial suggestion is only a theoretical. That was just a suggestion for you to consider. The readers may have some thoughts on what they are presented. The information is relevant, but perhaps not in in the headline.
Abhishek 29 Oct 2011, 16:31
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I think LI tends to give way too much attention to law schools, and every article seems to be a comparison of the same. 10 years into practice, no one cares which law school you're from, your work's the only thing that matters.
One unfortunate fact about the Indian legal education system (and generically the entire education system) is that no law school in India really teaches students the law or shapes their ability to excel, so much as students would work and make it big on their own merit. Yes, the more reputed law schools would naturally get the brighter students (who would consequently do well irrespective of the law school they're in). This may not be the case with top US or UK law schools, where the university plays a much more substantial role academically.
Hence, this does not justify attributing every promotion or lateral hiring to the law school a lawyer went to, especially so many years into practice.
kianganz 30 Oct 2011, 08:02
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Thanks for feedback, duly noted for future reference.
aa 28 Oct 2011, 12:01
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Totally agree with #1. [...] Stupid LI.
Hemant 28 Oct 2011, 13:08
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Stale news buddy!
kianganz 29 Oct 2011, 08:01
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Thanks for your comment. This is not the most cutting edge news but JSA has just issued an announcement and we wrote a short story.

Whenever something is exclusive news we generally preface it as such.

Whenever something is not exclusive we try to cover it in brief at least at some point, as a publication of record.
Hemant 30 Oct 2011, 07:41
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Thanks Kian. That makes sense. But LI is not consistent with the 'Exclusive' policy - the AMSS Partner promotion news "3 women, 2 men enter Amarchand side equity as BCG says: Grow to 1,000 by 2017 with 11 practice heads" was NOT exclusive. As a matter of fact BB carried it a few days before LI did? Anyways - i think LI and BB are great for the legal market so I dont want to raise the red flag and shout. Cheers - Best of luck.

[quote name="kianganz"]Thanks for your comment. This is not the most cutting edge news but JSA has just issued an announcement and we wrote a short story.

Whenever something is exclusive news we generally preface it as such.

Whenever something is not exclusive we try to cover it in brief at least at some point, as a publication of record.[/quote]
kianganz 30 Oct 2011, 08:23
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Thanks Hemant.

We do try to be consistent with our exclusive policy.

For example, I believe Bar & Bench carried the Amarchand equity promotions 1 hour or two before they went up on LI, as we were waiting for an on-the-record confirmation for several days.

But no one except LI had then, and to date, reported details on the BCG 2017 plan, the new practice heads, etc. By all accounts that makes the majority of that story an exclusive.

If you ever do not think a story that is marked as an exclusive is not, please do flag up, will be happy to correct if appropriate.

Best wishes,
Kian
Anonymous 28 Oct 2011, 13:22
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good catch for JSA.
IMO 28 Oct 2011, 15:14
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that's really nice for mr. nair, but unless his hiring is relevant to the larger lawyer-public for some other reason (controversy, nature of public profile for example), there is no reason that this should be news.
Wellwisher 28 Oct 2011, 18:42
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Best of luck Promod. A new chapter in life begins - hectic but it will no doubt be very enjoyable.
A 29 Oct 2011, 05:30
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@ SPok - Editor of a law school journal or member of Moot Court Committee or Rhodes Scholar or Kent Scholar are different, actually quite different from just a plain topper. I am not saying that it should not be mentioned but I think it is needless to refer to a 10 yr exp partner (that too of from an international firm) as topper. Had he been recruited as a fresher in a big law then topper would have fitted in a better way.
SA 29 Oct 2011, 17:47
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When will LI cover lateral moves by SAs and PAs or have a story for promotion of an outstanding Associate to Senior Associate and so forth. What about starting such a thread?
Vicky F1 30 Oct 2011, 14:51
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...Beca...all topperz are my frendz...!
Unknown 31 Oct 2011, 08:03
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All the very best Promod. That being said, international arbitration at Bangalore is a bit of a stretch to make a career. I am sure as a Topper (I had to use that word after the debate), he has considered his options well. ;)
No 1 - A 1 31 Oct 2011, 18:51
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Topper reminds me of the Dilbert cartoon character of the same name. And he is one hell of a topper!
law firm partner 18 Nov 2011, 23:40
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I have known Promod for 15 years now - he is a brilliant lawyer and has impeccable academic credentials in addition to his practice experience. Many congratulations Promod! JSA has done well to hire such a gem.
@ Kian 13 Dec 2011, 03:52
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Promod doesn't seem to be listed on JSA website - have they really taken him on as a B'lore partner? What is the effective date?
LI fan again.