Find the elephant in Cyril Amarchand logo; New strategy board bags Infosys Murthy, HDFC Parekh, Uday Kotak, NUS’ V Umakanth

New logo: Find the elephant
New logo: Find the elephant

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas has unveiled its new logo and high-powered strategic advisory board today.

The press release from the event stated:

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas also announced constitution of an external “Strategic Advisory Board”. Joining the Board will be Mr. N. R. Narayana Murthy (Co-Founder, Infosys), Mr. Deepak Parekh (Chairman, HDFC), Mr. Uday Kotak (Executive Vice Chairman and Managing Director, Kotak Mahindra Bank), Dr. Janmejaya Sinha (Chairman, Boston Consultancy Group - Asia Pacific) and Professor Umakanth Varottil (Assistant Professor, Faculty of Law, National University Singapore & former Partner of Amarchand & Mangaldas & Suresh A. Shroff & Co.).

The Strategic Advisory Board will guide the Firm on vision, overall direction and strategy, and also advise the Firm’s leadership to identify new opportunities. As strategic advisors to the Firm, the board members will meet periodically and offer their views on various aspects. The background and perspectives of each member of the Board speaks for itself, and will guide the Firm in making the best use of its resources, and achieves its ambitious vision to its fullest potential.

Managing partner Cyril Shroff commented:

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas is deeply privileged to have such distinguished people on its Strategic Advisory Board. They bring tremendous knowledge and insight from their respective careers and personal experiences. Each member will bring unique perspectives. We look forward to leveraging their expertise and believe their inputs will be extremely beneficial to the Firm.

The board members commented according to the release:

“I’m very confident that in these days of global & domestic competition, Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas will help the country succeed by providing proper legal advice and I have no doubt at all that they will grow extremely well. My best wishes are with them and therefore I am very pleased to be part of the Strategic Advisory Board of Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas. I wish them the best in the future.” said Mr. N. R. Narayana Murthy.

“Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas should be regarded as THE ‘go-to-legal-firm’ which provides best in class legal skills, a firm that stands for quality and integrity, with a motto of serving clients above all else. I see the advisory board as a compass to keep the firm anchored in this direction.” said Mr. Uday Kotak.

“It is my great pleasure to join the Advisory Board of the law firm Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas. I would like to see this firm go from being a great Indian law firm to a benchmark global law firm. This is no doubt an audacious aspiration but we should expect no less and as part of the Advisory Group we will not lose sight of this mission. I have great expectations from the firm but equally a strong conviction that under Cyril’s leadership we will get there.” said Dr. Janmejaya Sinha.

“I am truly excited to be part of the Strategic Advisory Board, and to share thoughts and ideas not only in sharpening the goals and future direction of the firm, but also in inspiring actions and deliverables.” said Professor Umakanth Varottil

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Explaining the firm’s new logo, Cyril Amarchand’s press release stated:

Positioned as one amongst the world’s best legal services firm, the identity draws from the factors that are considered most compelling in client choice – legacy, knowledge, innovation, expertise and relationships.

The identity builds on these factors symbolically: The ‘ring of gold’ forming part of the logo, is a symbol of unity and infinity. Gold as a color embodies tradition, brilliance and success. Wisdom, integrity dignity and ambition are qualities that are represented by the color, violet . This forms the core of our logo and identity. While the orange in “C” stands for warmth and friendship.

The identity makes use of ligatures – letters that are joined to form shapes. Thus, C, A and M appear joined to each other within the golden ring, thereby symbolizing the tightly knit relationships both, within the firm and with clients.

Apart from the play of letters and colors, the placement of the dot also reveals an element of surprise – the formation of an elephant within the circle. The elephant symbolizes strength, intelligence and longevity –the qualities of the firm that make it so valuable to clients. Through the elephant, Lord Ganesha, blesses all the firm’s future endeavours.

The identity has been designed by Interbrand, the world?s leading brand consulting firm.

Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas, run by Cyril Shroff’s brother Shardul after the break-up of Amarchand Mangaldas, unveiled its logo on 10 May 2015.

Comments

SAM 9 Aug 2015, 09:14
+53 -9
Hmmm SAM mus be wondering Why I launched so quickly with dots
Why 9 Aug 2015, 13:33
+15 -2
More importantly, he must be wondering WHY? Why did I do what I did!
IP Lawyer 26 Aug 2015, 09:35
+0 -0
The logo is deceptively similar to old amarchand logo. SAM sue CAM.
CAM 9 Aug 2015, 09:16
+42 -16
Careful slow and meticulous CAM just managed ed to show that it is the real Amarchand and Sam the DOTChand
JSA 9 Aug 2015, 16:32
+10 -1
Chuda... you can't come back now!
Scam 10 Aug 2015, 13:44
+9 -0
Careful? Have you seen their hiring in Delhi?
Promotions 9 Aug 2015, 09:19
+10 -1
Where are the promotions????
Future 9 Aug 2015, 10:45
+5 -9
Think beyond yourself. If you've done well then you will be promoted.
LOL 9 Aug 2015, 09:33
+34 -11
They're spewing such bullshit, I can't even...
Name or alias 9 Aug 2015, 10:21
+15 -9
[quote name="LOL"]They're spewing such bullshit, I can't even...[/quote]
True, the narrative is mostly bullshit, but one has to admit the logo is way better than SAM's.
WAY TO GO 10 Aug 2015, 10:29
+7 -1
[quote name="Name or alias"][quote name="LOL"]They're spewing such bullshit, I can't even...[/quote]
True, the narrative is mostly bullshit, but one has to admit the logo is way better than SAM's.[/quote]

WAY WAY BETTER.
Truth Hurts 11 Aug 2015, 10:07
+2 -1
[quote name="WAY TO GO"][quote name="Name or alias"][quote name="LOL"]They're spewing such bullshit, I can't even...[/quote]
True, the narrative is mostly bullshit, but one has to admit the logo is way better than SAM's.[/quote]

WAY WAY BETTER.[/quote]


And let me guess y, ohhh only bcoz it is deceptively similar to older A&M logo, so poor no wonder they lack innovation
Couchie 9 Aug 2015, 10:24
+11 -9
You should have designed a better logo but then you Delhi guy siders were always full of your own lust for power. Now that a better one has overshadowed your pip squeak of a logo, it stings!

Too bad you chose to stay where you are!
GC 9 Aug 2015, 10:02
+14 -16
Simply beautiful. Well done CAM.
Alia 9 Aug 2015, 10:22
+20 -10
SAM logo- one ring to control the nine rings. Each ring has its own circle of trust.
CAM logo- one ring, circle of trust which includes the firms clients, members led in unison by the warmth and camaraderie of its leaders.

The logos speak for themselves!
Bhatt 9 Aug 2015, 12:56
+73 -3
Have you met all the people at CAM- how many of its leaders warmth and camaraderie are you familiar with?
vakil 11 Aug 2015, 06:00
+2 -2
I don't think the story is one ring to control the nine rings.

It would be more like a round table with all equals.
vakil 11 Aug 2015, 06:01
+1 -0
More like the king arthur's
Monny 12 Aug 2015, 06:38
+2 -1
Lancelot kaun?
Royalty 9 Aug 2015, 10:26
+8 -12
The elephant and choice of colour - purple - both signify royalty. The true successor firm of AMSS.
Nehru 9 Aug 2015, 12:55
+8 -1
Ha ha ha ha ha ...
Alan Shore 9 Aug 2015, 10:39
+48 -13
The elephant aptly summarizes CAM's progress thus far - slow and lethargic!
Stomp 9 Aug 2015, 13:06
+10 -21
An elephant may be slow and lethargic but it makes even lions (and cats masquerading as lions) stop and give way when it charges!
Hendrix 9 Aug 2015, 17:23
+17 -0
Boss Ultimate Vellapanti
Monny 9 Aug 2015, 11:04
+8 -2
Was there a competition for the retainers? "Create a logo for YOUR CAM! Let the world know how you feel about the greatest show on earth err law firm on earth! The winner gets a year's supply of sodexo coupons! Hurry!"
Gulabjamum 9 Aug 2015, 11:16
+1 -1
kothak or Kotak?
kianganz 9 Aug 2015, 17:39
+0 -0
Yes, the latter, corrected thanks.
vantage 9 Aug 2015, 11:41
+4 -3
has CAM started their Bombay Litigation office?? Or is it running from Peninsula, Parel ??
Factually Correct 9 Aug 2015, 13:17
+1 -2
CAM always had a litigation office from Lentin Chambers. Some of it is run out Peninsula as well.
vintage 9 Aug 2015, 14:30
+11 -2
They may have a litigation office- but do they have any litigation? Also has anyone heard anything about what the CAM Delhi office is upto?
Factually correct again 9 Aug 2015, 18:46
+4 -5
Well, not that CAM is involved in, as of date. They do have a flourished litigation practice. Exceptional partners - Sharad Matkar, indraneel deshmukh, shaneen and VP Singh in Bombay
vintage 15 Aug 2015, 05:30
+0 -0
Hey Factually correct, can you give me the name of the last big matter in Bombay High Court where CAM was used?
vintage 9 Aug 2015, 14:31
+48 -3
Elephant? It looks like a pregnant stegosaurus
Guest 9 Aug 2015, 12:12
+19 -18
Well well, after weeks and months of suspense if this is all that Cyril could come up with I pity the associates of his firm.

Logo is no indicator of the quality of the firm but as far as logos go this is the pits. I dont think anyone can come up with a worse design if you paid her/him.

As for this 'strategic' and 'advisory' board, I can only feel sorry for the outsiders who have no idea what they are getting into. Murthy, Parekh, etc. must be really worried about post-retirement obsolescence if they are jumping aboard such a dangerous wagon. Umakanth I expected better {but maybe he thinks he is genuinely on track to improve the firm}.
Jealous much 10 Aug 2015, 10:33
+5 -7
[quote name="Guest"]Well well, after weeks and months of suspense if this is all that Cyril could come up with I pity the associates of his firm.

Logo is no indicator of the quality of the firm but as far as logos go this is the pits. I dont think anyone can come up with a worse design if you paid her/him.

As for this 'strategic' and 'advisory' board, I can only feel sorry for the outsiders who have no idea what they are getting into. Murthy, Parekh, etc. must be really worried about post-retirement obsolescence if they are jumping aboard such a dangerous wagon. Umakanth I expected better {but maybe he thinks he is genuinely on track to improve the firm}.[/quote]


SAM follower/inheritee -- From public perception, it's evident that you lost the logo and management structure battle. Try to lick your wounds and move on to focus on the war.
Copycat 9 Aug 2015, 12:48
+22 -5
Looks awfully lot like the old amss logo... and they took 4 months to come up with this! And "tightly knit relationships".. seriously!? Hahaha
Realist 9 Aug 2015, 12:55
+27 -5
In truth... both logos are rubbish... and the narrative surrounding them is equally bullshit...
vantage 9 Aug 2015, 14:43
+15 -0
Who cares.........as long as the Associates get their high salaries at the end of the month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scooter- 14 Aug 2015, 07:02
+0 -0
get me one firm whose narrative isnt bullshit. name one.
Copy 9 Aug 2015, 13:12
+22 -3
It looks exactly the same as the AMSS logo with just the color changes.
Anonymous 9 Aug 2015, 14:48
+8 -38
Copy, I am sorry but u really haven't seen the logo carefully if u think it looks like the old logo. Just coz its circular and it's got 'a' and 'm' does not make it similar. The style, thought and creativity is considerably different. You may be from any other firm n not a supporter of the organisation, but u should appreciate a well thought out and hard work. It does have a few similarities may be, but all in all it is a unique work, and very good one at that. N the hidden elephant, definitely a creative idea. The logo has and shows an identity, whether u like it or not.

Be a sport guys, don't mix your feelings towards the organisation with that towards the logo. Hats off to the team who made it. Great job.
Goofball 9 Aug 2015, 19:08
+12 -2
The lady doth protest too much me thinks.
Copy 10 Aug 2015, 03:52
+12 -0
@Anonymous - just read the opinion of the readers below about the similarity. I am nowhere related to CAM ans have no bias against it. I am just a nuetral reader. IF crushing any honest opinion is a culture of CAM, then i am afraid it is not the right approach. Be more receptive about other's opinions and let others judge the logo rather than you proclaiming how great it is. Sorry, for me, it is seems like a copy of the earlier logo and seems more to deceive clients into believing that CAM is the true holder of the AMSS legacy.
Carbon Copy 11 Aug 2015, 04:57
+1 -3
[quote name="Copy"]@Anonymous - just read the opinion of the readers below about the similarity. I am nowhere related to CAM ans have no bias against it. I am just a nuetral reader. IF crushing any honest opinion is a culture of CAM, then i am afraid it is not the right approach. Be more receptive about other's opinions and let others judge the logo rather than you proclaiming how great it is. Sorry, for me, it is seems like a copy of the earlier logo and seems more to deceive clients into believing that CAM is the true holder of the AMSS legacy.[/quote]
Deceive -- or be a natural representation of the inheriter of quality work that AMSS used to be known for?
Dazed and Confused 11 Aug 2015, 05:16
+2 -0
Design Troll.
Copycat 13 Aug 2015, 12:51
+0 -0
"u should appreciate a well thought out and hard work" - But what I truly cannot appreciate is your English.
W The W 14 Aug 2015, 09:15
+0 -0
Wendy has a point.
Mx. x 10 Aug 2015, 06:25
+11 -0
Four months to remove the '&' and change the colours! Same s***, different day. Literally!
Phorein Taaooo 9 Aug 2015, 14:13
+1 -2
Taaooo itne teym (time) mein toh sab set-up ho jaana tha! Huo kei alphabet aur kahaniya bata raha hai. On a serious note, best of luck guys. If not anything else, you guys have definitely shaken up a sleepy (almost dead) lateral recruitment scene.
Batman 9 Aug 2015, 14:29
+3 -2
CAM's logo looks like it was designed by lazy people.

@kian: Can thou please paste AMSS logo herein for the benefit of the readers.
kianganz 9 Aug 2015, 14:40
+2 -0
Here you go:

[img]http://www.legallyindia.com/w/images/8/8a/Amarchand_%26_Mangaldas_%26_Suresh_A_Shroff_%26_Co.jpeg[/img]
anon 9 Aug 2015, 15:10
+11 -1
No offense but if they had thrown in if nothing else but only an internship opportunity, law students would have made far better logo for free.
Tiger 9 Aug 2015, 16:21
+52 -0
SAM's logo remind me of Philip's ad for shavers.
[img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/61/4e/f7/614ef7d5a85b438002c1723ec7f3a477.jpg[/img]
Agree 10 Aug 2015, 10:36
+2 -0
[quote name="Tiger"]SAM's logo remind me of Philip's ad for shavers.
[img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/61/4e/f7/614ef7d5a85b438002c1723ec7f3a477.jpg[/img][/quote]

I thought the SAM logo looked like an ad for Durex.

What about management structure for CAM's branches across the country?
Sambo 10 Aug 2015, 17:47
+1 -0
I think both look like a set of ball bearings.
laugh out loud 11 Aug 2015, 06:59
+3 -0
I dont think i can ever look at the SAM logo without think its a [...]!


maybe they did put proper thot into representing who they are..... kudos to SAM for such a quick and correct self introsepction!!
Lol ing 12 Aug 2015, 06:39
+0 -0
@laughtoutloud - Hilarious! Especially after the FB big ***s blunder!
Tiger 12 Aug 2015, 18:36
+0 -0
What did I miss? Any screenshot?
Guest 9 Aug 2015, 16:40
+7 -1
Why do I see another litigation on its way. IP Guys?
Scooter- 10 Aug 2015, 08:24
+8 -1
Because you are intelligent, judicious, foresighted and a visionary.
KF 9 Aug 2015, 17:38
+18 -2
I think CAM's logo is deliberately designed to look and remind people of the former logo - to demonstrate that they are the true successors of the amss legacy. Even the font type is similar to the earlier logo. As an outsider, I would very naturally accept CAM's logo as a natural successor of the earlier Amss logo than SAM's (which doesn't have any bearing with the earlier logo).

Separately, talking of similar logos-- pls paste KCO and a Grant Thornton's logo side by side - they too look similar, don't they?
Lazy dog 10 Aug 2015, 14:24
+7 -1
You are partially correct. I have heard this from 6-7 other color blind friends.
Paste 9 Aug 2015, 19:15
+1 -4
Please paste logos of Finsec Law as well... In any case, the elephant will walk over all other logos...
Guest 9 Aug 2015, 19:53
+5 -0
Both these firms are history if liberalisation happens.
Lyril ka Tabela 9 Aug 2015, 20:16
+17 -2
Gold for prosperity, violet for whateva and orange for friendly and warm! To top it all Zero stands for infinity.... Seriously!!!!! The most fake and cliched speech ever..... Seriously???!!! Again????
Rrrrr 9 Aug 2015, 20:59
+11 -2
Dude the new cam logo is a pure case of "deceptive similarlity". SAM wake up!!!!
Wiseman 10 Aug 2015, 01:59
+9 -1
The settlement award said both the brothers will stop using the logo. If the new one of CAM is a deceptive one akin to the large wide eyed associates waiting their bonus and declared by the ones singularly in an elephant tower, should not Hildul take note and send a rejoinder of sorts! Classic case of passing off something which passed off!
Scooter- 14 Aug 2015, 07:08
+0 -0
Id be interested to read the settlement award. Seems you have a copy? mind sharing?
Plato 10 Aug 2015, 03:18
+11 -1
So now Arindam Chaudhuri's IIPM and CAM both have strategic advisory boards whose function is too vague to be wriiten on paper. So much brouhaha. The destruction of a good firm and a good logo since that is the topic at hand should serve as your moral compass (using the term by a strategic advisory board member) of not making the same mistakes again. Rather than have a confetti shower at every available opportunity. Take care of your people, they maketh a Firm. You don't need a strategic advisory board to give you this pearl of wisdom.
observer 10 Aug 2015, 04:48
+9 -5
Comparing IIPM with CAM, just because they have advisory boards is indeed funny. Logo doesn't carry a lot of science behind it. Surprised to see so much of discussion around Logo. The advisory board is a revolutionary concept in Indian Law Firms. I was hoping KCO will be pioneer in this!!! I guess CAM will be better placed to connect to business houses. CAM, AZB, KCO, SAM...will this be the new order? Or will SAM overtake KCO?
LUSA Legal 10 Aug 2015, 12:08
+5 -3
And JSA, Luthra and Trilegal will just watch from the sidelines??
Plato 10 Aug 2015, 12:49
+0 -1
Advisory Board a revolutionary new concept in Indian law firms. Are thee new to the law firm practice?
new concept 10 Aug 2015, 14:28
+2 -0
this is an old concept. its just a marketing trick. had one such board in the old firm i worked.
Crum 10 Aug 2015, 16:03
+2 -0
There are a couple of other firms.
The Advisor 10 Aug 2015, 17:54
+4 -0
Advisory boards, committees, steering group, blah blah..the same set of "eminent" citizens (or the usual suspects if you prefer). Can't we find some other people? Deepak Parekh has his hand in god knows six dozen boards, committees and what not!

In a nation of billion plus that is quite telling.And Narayana Murthy a pioneer in labour arbitrage (techno-coolies they call it). And he laments that India has not produced any ground-breaking innovation in 60 years.
Ka Pitalist 11 Aug 2015, 10:44
+1 -1
[quote name="The Advisor"]And Narayana Murthy a pioneer in labour arbitrage (techno-coolies they call it). And he laments that ...[/quote]

1. Well can Murthy replicate the Infosys model with law firms? That is, open up marketing offices abroad, pipe the mundane work back to Indian legal-coolies and make a nice pile out of that, all in dollars?

2.Having a captive law firm might also come handy for Infosys to fend of stuff like this http://www.techinsurgent.com/post/NY-Times-Covers-Slumdog-Slave-Trade-Scandal-at-Infosys.aspx
Watching from Bombay 10 Aug 2015, 04:59
+8 -0
The logo does look quiet similar to the Original AMSS logo.
Watching watching 10 Aug 2015, 10:39
+8 -1
Such a quiet comment
Bbm 10 Aug 2015, 11:36
+8 -1
It seems like all CAM retainers have been asked to change BBM DPs to this logo. Kian can you confirm?
lol 11 Aug 2015, 06:06
+0 -0
Who uses BBs these days? lolz.. if CAM lawyers are using such antique devices, god only knows what will happen to CAM.
lol 12 Aug 2015, 10:11
+0 -0
@Kian - why is my comment not being published? What was so offensive about it
lol 14 Aug 2015, 04:16
+0 -0
I ask for the third time why my comment is not published.
kianganz 14 Aug 2015, 04:24
+1 -0
Haan, nothing very offensive, sorry - we're having some errors with moderation these days.

Though BBs are still quite popular with lawyers... More about antiquated profession than CAM in particular, I'd say :)
lol 14 Aug 2015, 11:47
+0 -0
well... i see most of the firms including the other firm having shifted to BYOD policy. Most other firms have also followed suit. BBM is antique and does not work even for this 'antiquated profession'
Hathi mera Sathi 10 Aug 2015, 14:38
+46 -0
Bhai I tried my best but with no luck...maine laptop upar kya...niche kya...teda kya...meda kyaa...par bhai mujhe ye Hathi nahi mila logo mein...
Monny 10 Aug 2015, 16:05
+22 -0
Arre you are not in the golden circle of purple trust and don't have all that orange wisdom. The uninitiated are like the blind men feeling up an elephant and trying to describe what it is.

Boy, that sounded dirtier than I intended.
hathi 2 11 Aug 2015, 09:08
+8 -1
Mujhe bhi nahi mila. Mujhe badi sharam aayi. Main to iss layak bhi nahi hun ki CAM ke logo mein hathi mujhe dikhe. Haye. Mera kya hoga.
Ip man 10 Aug 2015, 16:21
+1 -0
I foresee another lawsuit.
:/ 10 Aug 2015, 16:24
+8 -2
Stupid dot. Stupid elephant. Stupid speech about colours. But that stupid dot!
Bawarchi 10 Aug 2015, 18:13
+2 -8
Stupid is he who calls another stupid. Get back to your LPO job!
Scam 10 Aug 2015, 16:54
+24 -2
I think the thing that deserves attention is what is being hidden by the glamour of the advisory board .. There is no management structure in CAM.. It's Cyril's way or the highway .. No more professional set-up with external advisers (even if they were just for show) .. No regional managing partners... No management board with Viswanathan and Ashwath .. An eyewash of an advisory board with childhood friends and loyal ex protégés will not cannot hide the fact that there has been absolute concentration of power in the hands of Cyril and Vandana, with no semblance of a succession plan
So concernced SCAM....? 11 Aug 2015, 05:08
+1 -2
[quote name="Scam"]I think the thing that deserves attention is what is being hidden by the glamour of the advisory board .. There is no management structure in CAM.. It's Cyril's way or the highway .. No more professional set-up with external advisers (even if they were just for show) .. No regional managing partners... No management board with Viswanathan and Ashwath .. An eyewash of an advisory board with childhood friends and loyal ex protégés will not cannot hide the fact that there has been absolute concentration of power in the hands of Cyril and Vandana, with no semblance of a succession plan[/quote]

AND OF COURSE THERE SHOULD BE A SUCCESSION PLAN - Lets have a bunch of Delhi a**kissers to guide the light to the nepotistic (that thinks great carpets build great firms) and call it an Advisory Board!
Monny 11 Aug 2015, 07:36
+1 -0
Yo. A succession plan for any law firm is a must if it is to survive for any long term period. The problem with family/personality focused firms is exactly that - what happens once the stalwarts are gone? This isn't to disparage the CAM lawyers, some of whom are excellent. It's just to say that unless there is a clear idea on how the firm is to manage post relevant family, it won't survive. If family is given precedence over talent, its hard to give a f*** once you reach that stage of junior partnership/associate parternship/ principal whatever.
Confused Zeus Says . . . 10 Aug 2015, 17:13
+13 -0
I pity that client who engages a law firm because he finds its logo impressive.
forced to post as anon 10 Aug 2015, 17:25
+1 -0
sucks that there are all these toadies posting about CAM >>
Bahubali 10 Aug 2015, 17:31
+15 -0
Inhi 'Logo'n ne le liya dupatta mera...
Rajesh Khanna 11 Aug 2015, 08:43
+16 -1
Kutchh to log kahenge - "logo" ka CAM hai kehna
LOGO Ho Ho 10 Aug 2015, 18:04
+10 -0
If there is any elephant in that logo...then I am a monkey!
Crime Master Logo 14 Aug 2015, 07:14
+1 -0
you are a monkey.
Guest 10 Aug 2015, 18:23
+3 -0
What about Sa and pa promotions this year at Cam? Kian any idea
Jay Leno 10 Aug 2015, 18:56
+8 -1
1. Cyril logo is too hotch-potch. Trying to do too much and it lands up looking like nothing. A dot and a squiggle does not an elephant make!

2. Shardul logo is simpler and cleaner but again it looks like nothing! Not a fan of this one either.

I hope their law practices are not like their logos - big talk and all show but no substance!
Crime Master Logo 14 Aug 2015, 07:16
+4 -0
SAM' logo looks like a gujju thali.
Acche din 11 Aug 2015, 03:40
+13 -0
Cyril Adani Modi
Dazed and Confused 11 Aug 2015, 04:40
+9 -1
These are two of the most tasteless, bland logos I've ever seen from supposedly major economic players. India is a 5.000-year old culture drenched in design innovation, yet these two [...] proffer two tepid marks as their declarations of independence. They are, however, perfectly emblematic of their institutions' lack of innovation and inventiveness.
SAMvCAM 11 Aug 2015, 06:03
+4 -0
CAM's logo is way too similar to AMSS's. I think the deal was SAM gets Lex Mundi and CAM gets to use parts of the old logo and the same font size.
Guest 11 Aug 2015, 06:12
+4 -0
Why hasn't my query on Sa and pa promotions been published?
kianganz 11 Aug 2015, 06:20
+0 -0
Sorry, accidentally missed. Not sure when they're coming in, will check...
Scott Hall 11 Aug 2015, 07:30
+1 -0
When is Cyril bhai planning to open an office in Calcutta?
Bong Guy 11 Aug 2015, 18:01
+3 -0
I hear that he is opening an office in October....
poet 11 Aug 2015, 09:16
+18 -0
I've been away and out of touch,
I ask what's changed, I find not much..
Earlier it was the the brothers who fought,
Now the battle is between the nipple and the spot!
Confused Zeus Says . . . 11 Aug 2015, 09:29
+5 -1
[quote name="poet"]I've been away and out of touch,
I ask what's changed, I find not much..
Earlier it was the the brothers who fought,
Now the battle is between the nipple and the spot![/quote]

I'm afraid, the last line was understood not!
Anon 11 Aug 2015, 10:07
+5 -5
This Zeus is with confusion fraught
read again he must after smoking some "_____"
Confused Zeus Says . . . 11 Aug 2015, 14:01
+14 -0
[quote name="Anon"]This Zeus is with confusion fraught
read again he must after smoking some "_____"[/quote]
To force a rhyme is yet a crime,
what's sickly versed, needs to be nursed;
a farce in art from the very start,
this "anon" seems to be a burden on earth - since his very birth.
Anon 11 Aug 2015, 14:26
+9 -11
Zeus Zeus, show some mirth..
Poetry can be in any form,
Why you are cross i cannot say,
As for my burden, you can ask your mom..
poet 11 Aug 2015, 16:28
+4 -0
So Cyril and Shardul aren't the only ones fighting!!
Confused Zeus Says . . . 12 Aug 2015, 06:08
+0 -0
[quote name="poet"]So Cyril and Shardul aren't the only ones fighting!![/quote]
LoL - I've called it off. But please explain your last line!
Crime Master Logo 14 Aug 2015, 07:18
+0 -0
Try again
Guest 11 Aug 2015, 09:49
+1 -0
Also Kian what happened to cams Bangalore office?
Mx. X 11 Aug 2015, 10:04
+0 -0
Surprising how SAM v. CAM seems to get maximum comments...
AM 11 Aug 2015, 12:23
+1 -0
For CAM the email addresses are cyrilshroff.com (no amarchand or amss) and hence the logo similar to amss with tweaked design and color. Smart...
Philosopher 11 Aug 2015, 15:54
+3 -0
I've called off the search. Neither can I see any haathi, nor the a godzilla in the logo. I've even asked the Dot Buster gang if they can spot an elephant there, and if they will take offence to the 'bindi'.

As for "significance" of the colours and the components...I can talk and talk and talk...till the cows, sorry, elephant comes home.
buzz 11 Aug 2015, 20:43
+1 -0
Look at the dot as the eye of the elephant. The circle above it becomes the elephant and the top of the "a" becomes the trunk. I see it fairly clearly. Quite clever.
Crime Master Logo 14 Aug 2015, 07:27
+0 -0
troughs of the 'm' being thee feet and a gigantic tailon the outer side of the m
hathi 2 14 Aug 2015, 10:22
+2 -0
[quote name="buzz"]Look at the dot as the eye of the elephant. The circle above it becomes the elephant and the top of the "a" becomes the trunk. I see it fairly clearly. Quite clever.[/quote]
bade aye hero.
Promotions 11 Aug 2015, 17:24
+3 -0
promotions??? when we need to know!!!!!!!
Spouse Promotions? 11 Aug 2015, 18:35
+5 -0
Lets hope that CAM which was once AMSS, Mumbai learns from its mistakes and promotes on pure merits and not spouses of partners and other retainers.
Elephant 12 Aug 2015, 02:31
+5 -0
I hear from my friends at CAM that it was some function they did to launch the logo... But 'India wants to know' what about the promotions??? Is CAM going to announce them at all or just go all purple in the face with it. Coz from what i hear, the so called CAMians are now loosing patience. Some have alreay got 'de-CAMed' and the others will soon follow. The management really needs to understand that good logo or bad logo, elephant or no elephant, ppl work hard to see growth and money.

Funny how ltl this place thinks about its resources...
Bombay Lawyer 12 Aug 2015, 02:56
+2 -0
SAM's logo looks a bit like a model for a retrovirus. It looks a lot like the standard model for HIV Actually....

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/HIV_Virion.svg
nk 12 Aug 2015, 14:35
+1 -0
Well atleast CAM's logo matches the name - mithai ki dukaan / jeweller. If the logo and the speech are put together it does look more like a jeweller (gold/ infinity etc).
Insider 12 Aug 2015, 18:59
+0 -4
Promotions to be announced end of September
Informer 12 Aug 2015, 19:03
+1 -0
Salary hikes?
Sugreve 13 Aug 2015, 13:03
+4 -0
Just came to know of the announcement that whoever is able to discover the elephant in logo first will be made a partner in the firm even if s/he is without any booook!
Hay-grev 17 Aug 2015, 13:15
+0 -0
Is not that was the new CAM partner policy in Delhi. No need for a book or market standing.. Numbers are all that matter.
Popat Bhai 14 Aug 2015, 06:38
+2 -0
It's actually an Anteater. Not an elephant. Look carefully.
Still looking 14 Aug 2015, 13:10
+2 -1
"Name is Bond..James Bond.."
Mission Kaam nahi to CAM..finding the Hathi in 24 hours..
Secret Intelligence deployed..
International sources alerted...
Mission to find Hathi in 24 hours...
Countdown begins...
Revealed..This is not an elephant, but a pregnant dinosaur that is about to be hit by a meteor!
Mission..'save the pregnant dinosaur'
To be contd..
@ 52 15 Aug 2015, 09:39
+1 -0
[quote name="Spouse Promotions?"]Lets hope that CAM which was once AMSS, Mumbai learns from its mistakes and promotes on pure merits and not spouses of partners and other retainers.[/quote]

"Fat" chance they will improve on this count. Ineptitude on account of nepotism will always be factor in the firm.
Bhai 17 Aug 2015, 21:06
+0 -0
Whatever they say in their mission statements, both CAM and SAM are essentially family driven, nepotistic, law firms with zero desire to be anything else. So CAM not having a succession plan is exactly as bad as SAM having a Gandhi-parivar style succession plan with. SAM having a management committee is exactly the same as CAM having an advisory board, because the relevant Male 50-yr old Shroff will call the shots. Hopefully none of the lawyers at either were fooled into believing any of the junk about professionalism that both brothers spout in pre-placement talks and interviews
on the logos, they both look like shit, but CAM's has the advantage of reminding people of the halfway decent AMSS logo. CAM definitely wins the logo battle, just like SAM won the domain name battle (cyrilshroff.com?!?! SERIOUSLY!!!). But neither of these will make one bit of a difference. What matters is who can keep most clients, and most fee-earners and partners to gear up to fend of the foreign firms that will come in soon.