Amarchand mediated split postponed to 5 May

The end of mediation between Amarchand Mangaldas managing partners Cyril and Shardul Shroff has been postponed to at least 5 May, according to sources, though it could yet take till 7 May or longer.

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Guest 29 Apr 2015, 16:30
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Yaaaaawnnn!
Guest 29 Apr 2015, 17:18
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Can we now please do something else? Kian, please prod some of the others to merge or split up...enough with this bhai bhai stuff....
ABC 29 Apr 2015, 18:24
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Do they even want to break up?
Guest 30 Apr 2015, 03:45
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Increasingly becoming aware that this was a gimmick. Just another way to reach the 1000 lawyer mark quickly
Yawn 30 Apr 2015, 03:34
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Super bored of this. Why announce dates when it's clear they won't stick to them? This is seriously getting old
Kaunspiracy 30 Apr 2015, 05:39
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methinks they will remain united and consolidate the living daylights out of the market. This is them becoming big enough to have all the talent in once place for when firangs enter.
Kian? 30 Apr 2015, 07:38
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http://www.barandbench.com/content/212/amarchand-mangaldas-split-pushed-next-week-sam-eyeing Any news on this Kian?
kianganz 30 Apr 2015, 08:32
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As we'd reported in February, Shardul Shroff has been in the process of negotiating for a big merger, which is different from the strategy followed by his brother:
http://www.legallyindia.com/Law-firms/cyril-shardul-register-new-amarchand-com-domains-as-mediators-give-shroffs-green-light-to-start-new-offices-some-big-moves

At the moment, there is nothing definitive and it's basically all gossip or discussions that have not concluded.

There have been a couple of names floating about in the market for a potential merger partner for SAM over the past month, most of which have not gone anywhere.

One of the current strong rumours if a merger with a top 10 RSG firm, another rumour is about a merger with a top 20 firm, and one with a top 30 firm.
kianganz 30 Apr 2015, 08:43
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May also be worth remembering that only in January the ET was reporting that SAM would be merging with Bharucha & Partners, which is almost certainly false:
http://www.legallyindia.com/201501265523/Law-firms/amarchand-to-split-in-two-firms-on-1-april-but-et-rumours-of-bharucha-shardul-tie-up-almost-certainly-false
Probables??? 30 Apr 2015, 11:07
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Kian, could you please confirm if the rumors are about these firms?

Top 10 - S&R, Desai Diwanji, ELP
Top 20 - Wadia, Platinum, DSK
Top 30 - Tatva, Mulla, Majmudar

Disclaimer: List has been drawn up based merely on speculation and personal intuition.. I have not heard any rumors, not an insider of SCAM or any of the firms mentioned above..
Aston 1 May 2015, 09:55
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heard about Majmudar too, no chance of Mulla & Mulla!!
kianganz 1 May 2015, 14:29
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Apparently one of the top 10 firms merger discussions are not on anymore as of yesterday.

One top 20 discussion could still be on though...
ThePhantom 1 May 2015, 21:03
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[quote name="Probables???"]Kian, could you please confirm if the rumors are about these firms?

Top 10 - S&R, Desai Diwanji, ELP
Top 20 - Wadia, Platinum, DSK
Top 30 - Tatva, Mulla, Majmudar

Disclaimer: List has been drawn up based merely on speculation and personal intuition.. I have not heard any rumors, not an insider of SCAM or any of the firms mentioned above..[/quote]


Would be interesting for SAM to merge with D&D. It is a good firm and is always in the top 3 in M&A in terms of volume. Not to forget the top in volumes until few years back. Their M&A and Corporate practice is very strong to compete with the likes of CAM or even AZB. The numbers would add up (as per B&B report). To capture Mumbai market you need a firm with a strong presence and this would be the perfect option. D&D also has a very strong PF team who are thereabouts on the PF league table and are doing well in that area. Not to forget SAM has recruited Deepto for the PF team. If he merges with D&D he gets an entire top class M&A team, PF team and a free lit team!!! Billings for D&D clients should not be an issue as it is almost as much as any other top tier firm. Billings for ALMT clients would be a major issue.

Apart from D&D, Tatva seems the only logical option but again, difficult to compete with D&D. Majmudar, Wadia and ALMT are in bad shape and wouldn't make sense for SAM to go for a sinking ship especially if he has to start from scratch. That would only be stupid. If they cannot manage their Partners and Associates and stabilise their firm, how will they assist in building a new one?

ELP is the best option... but surely is not happening!! DSK is good and going strong, but the qulity of the associate pool is not really great (not the level for Amarchand). Platinum and S&R are happy where they are. Mulla does not deserve any comments.

Let us wait and watch where does all this finally end!!


- Signing off

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-ThePhantom
rumour monger 30 Apr 2015, 08:15
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Heard through the grapevine that another big 6 firm is headed towards a split - Kian: Any thruth to it?
RSG 30 Apr 2015, 09:09
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What? what? what?
waddalawyer 30 Apr 2015, 08:56
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Ye break-up SAM-CAM se naaa ho paaega....!!!
ABC 30 Apr 2015, 10:22
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This break up is SCAM and it won't ever happen. :p
Y u no 30 Apr 2015, 11:16
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SAM + CAM = SCAM.
Anon 30 Apr 2015, 12:45
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Hmmm....would it be a whole firm, or part of one?
Guest 30 Apr 2015, 12:50
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ELP? WG? DSK? D&D?
Pinto from El Tinto 30 Apr 2015, 13:44
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Its ALMT
Re: Pinto 30 Apr 2015, 15:05
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Could be, the numbers add up to B&B's article: http://rsg-india.com/indian-law-firms/profiles/almt-legal
Guest 30 Apr 2015, 14:08
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^ Any guesses?
Guest 30 Apr 2015, 15:09
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ALMT isn't a RSG Top 10 Firm, referencing Kian's comment above...
news 5 May 2015, 05:50
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Kian - Today is 5th may. any news on this?

Sameer
Curious 5 May 2015, 09:06
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The 5th! Have they split yet?