Amarchand hires a new senior Irish competition lawyer

Amarchand Mangaldas has hired the head of Irish firm William Fry’s competition law department, John Handoll, as a senior adviser in European and competition law, as first reported by Bar & Bench today.

It is understood that he joined the firm at the beginning of October, but he was not able to comment when contacted at the time of going to press.

He has been at the Dublin-based firm William Fry for the last 16 years, most recently as senior partner.

He has graduated from the University of Manchester in 1978.

Partner and the head of Amarchand Delhi’s competition team Pallavi Shroff was unavailable for comment at the time of going to press.

Khaitan & Co had poached Irish competition lawyer Paku Khan in late 2011, whom Amarchand’s Delhi competition team had hired in 2009 and promoted to partner-equivalent director level by October 2011. Khan is a person of Indian origin (PIO) who was working at A&L Goodbody before coming to work in India for Amarchand.

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Competition 25 Oct 2012, 10:27
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Kian, Pallavi is not the head of the competition law practice. See the LI story on bcg and region practice heads.

Mumbai is cyril and nisha's competition team. It remains to be seen if John outlasts his successor!! AMSS is clearly ahead of AZB who is yet to hire a competition partner in bombay.

Incidentally you should cover the moves TTA is making in the competition law space as well.
kianganz 25 Oct 2012, 10:37
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Thanks, have amended the article slightly to read that she is Delhi's competition practice head. Pallavi Shroff is co-head with Nisha Uberoi in Mumbai, according to our earlier report: http://www.legallyindia.com/201210253217/Law-firms/amarchand-hires-a-new-senior-irish-competition-lawyer#comment-35455

Best regards,
Kian
abc 25 Oct 2012, 11:34
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my my - so much politics !
Laywer 29 Oct 2012, 12:55
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[quote name="Competition"]Incidentally you should cover the moves TTA is making in the competition law space as well.[/quote]

Who's TTA in the competition law space?
gien 12 Nov 2012, 09:07
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It seems that the industrialist cannot face the condemnation Mr Kejriwal is giving to those who are unbalancing the countrys future
Seeking an answer 25 Oct 2012, 11:47
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Senior Advisor? How much does this position pay? If he has “joined” the firm, it means he has relocated to India for a position that pays little. Assuming these “consultants” and “advisers” get less than or as much as a salaried partner.

It is interesting to see Indian firms hiring lawyers who have worked in small local firms abroad. But is it for knowledge development (possibly not), contact/network utilization or branding for visibility? William Fry is a leading Dublin firm but in the larger scheme of BigLaw, it is outside the club and is much smaller in terms of Revenue per Lawyer (RPL) or Profits per Partner (PEP). In fact, these firms are so small in terms of their scope of work and client list that they pay associate solicitors as much as top London firms pay their trainee solicitors. The practice they run is also very different, small scale and local. As a business strategy, how do these lawyers benefit Indian firms if they are neither able to contribute much to knowledge or to business development. Thus the question, how much is Amarchand willing to pay these people and why are they hiring them at all?

Ideas anyone?
abc 25 Oct 2012, 13:23
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well - that assumes the indian talent is better ? doesnt it ?
Dear abc 26 Oct 2012, 06:29
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Hell, NO! Not making any such assumption at all! Lawyers practising in big business centres like London and New York are arguably better than the majority of Indian lawyers (especially as compared to those Indian lawyers who lack foreign experience, degree or qualification). However, it is dubious whether Dublin is the same as London. LOLZ! That notwithstanding, I most certainly assumed the chap is very good at EU and UK competition law given that he has been the head of that practice area and was also a senior partner. However, the size of his firm indicates what type of practice he had – competition review of mega-mergers are typically done by BigLaw e.g. Arcelor-Mittal merger had Skadden and Cleary as advisors. Also, the Indian competition law scene and the regulatory dynamics are very different from UK/EU although we follow the EU model and case law. Also, senior Amarchand partners arguably understand the theoretical part of EU competition law and foreign lawyers would not know the practice related aspects of Indian competition law. Hence my question ...
sheep 26 Oct 2012, 10:44
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nisha is neither head nor co-head. if any non-shroff is, it is probably ashwath.
correction 27 Oct 2012, 04:20
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Ashwath and Reeba are deputy corporate heads at Mumbai and not  competition heads. Nisha is the competition head at Mumbai and Pallavi is the competition head at Delhi. Try google!!
Señor Agape 27 Oct 2012, 11:51
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[quote name="correction"]Ashwath and Reeba are deputy corporate heads at Mumbai and not  competition heads. Nisha is the competition head at Mumbai and Pallavi is the competition head at Delhi. Try google!![/quote]

Can someone just ring one of the Shroffs and ask them what cute titles they're allocating to the staff instead of real power and authority? Any lawyer hung up on a silly title like "deputy corporate head " is not really a lawyer in the fullest sense of the word.
Mumbling Dublin 26 Oct 2012, 11:29
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Amarchand had already been in touch with William Fry for sometime now. Infact, Amarchand partners travelled to Dublin for a conference earlier this month and had extensive meetings with some other law firms also. This is no big surprise and was already on the cards as an 'expected move' for sometime now.
HK lawyer 28 Oct 2012, 16:58
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so 2nd irish recruit for AMSS. Poor Bill, he has no idea whats it like to work in an Indian firm - with PS,CS,SS calling him at 9 pm and asking him a question and expecting an immediate reply :) And now watch the politics amongst the junior folks - [...], little territories they will have to hold on to - like dear life.
London Bound 1 Nov 2012, 03:09
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Too funny!

AM does everything possible to block foreign law firms from entering but when it suits them they take on foreing lawyers.

That seems hypocritical to me (and actually not very funny)!!
Ignorance about EU practice... 1 Nov 2012, 16:41
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@Seeking an answer -Its clear that you have no clue about EU practice and @Dear abc - Its surprising how you underestimate Dublin legal talent...

If you attended the IBA conference this year the Dublin lawyers were far superior to us in terms of structuring banking and corporate transactions and matched London lawyers when it came to EU law...

Even though Ireland is a small economy and its entire population is half of Mumbai, its leading law firm A&L Goodbody employs 400 highly qualified lawyers...

You can say what you want about the Shroffs but they obviously must have seen something before making such a big move...

(Note: Dublin lawyers even though better are also very humble and jovial and quite a welcome change from the National Law grad who walks arounds with a chip on his/her shoulder)
observer 3 Nov 2012, 05:39
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[quote name="Ignorance about EU practice..."]@Seeking an answer -Its clear that you have no clue about EU practice and @Dear abc - Its surprising how you underestimate Dublin legal talent...

If you attended the IBA conference this year the Dublin lawyers were far superior to us in terms of structuring banking and corporate transactions and matched London lawyers when it came to EU law...

Even though Ireland is a small economy and its entire population is half of Mumbai, its leading law firm A&L Goodbody employs 400 highly qualified lawyers...

You can say what you want about the Shroffs but they obviously must have seen something before making such a big move...

(Note: Dublin lawyers even though better are also very humble and jovial and quite a welcome change from the National Law grad who walks arounds with a chip on his/her shoulder)[/quote]




No one has even heard of A& L good whatever or William whatever. The only reason to hire Irish as opposed to Brussels/ London lawyers is a cost issue. The IBA was in Dublin this year. It is in Boston next year. It does not mean that next year Boston lawyers will be the top lawyers. This is hardly a big move. Getting a magic circle competition expert from the EU would have been big ( and MUCH more expensive)
Ignorance about EU practice... 3 Nov 2012, 15:57
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Just because your knowledge of UK/EU firms is limited to google-based research or your hearsay accounts of foreign lawyer placements, you have only heard only of the magic circle. Its like saying that Amitabh Bacchan is the ONLY good senior actor in India. Competition Law in India is in a nascent stage so I agree that uprooting an expensive Competition Lawyer from a magic circle firm would not be financially viable.

If you feel that this is not big news then you should blame LI instead...
observer 3 Nov 2012, 19:39
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[quote name="Ignorance about EU practice..."]Just because your knowledge of UK/EU firms is limited to google-based research or your hearsay accounts of foreign lawyer placements, you have only heard only of the magic circle. Its like saying that Amitabh Bacchan is the ONLY good senior actor in India. Competition Law in India is in a nascent stage so I agree that uprooting an expensive Competition Lawyer from a magic circle firm would not be financially viable.

If you feel that this is not big news then you should blame LI instead...[/quote]


That is my point. Get Amitabh Bachchan and that's big news. Getting an obscure MacMohan or a geriatric Girish Karnad is definitely not "big".
observer 3 Nov 2012, 19:43
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[quote name="Ignorance about EU practice..."]@Seeking an answer -Its clear that you have no clue about EU practice and @Dear abc - Its surprising how you underestimate Dublin legal talent...

If you attended the IBA conference this year the Dublin lawyers were far superior to us in terms of structuring banking and corporate transactions and matched London lawyers when it came to EU law...

Even though Ireland is a small economy and its entire population is half of Mumbai, its leading law firm A&L Goodbody employs 400 highly qualified lawyers...

You can say what you want about the Shroffs but they obviously must have seen something before making such a big move...

(Note: Dublin lawyers even though better are also very humble and jovial and quite a welcome change from the National Law grad who walks arounds with a chip on his/her shoulder)[/quote]

You clearly are a Dublin lawyer!! Why the angst with National Law grads? Is it because Dublin lawyers are not recognized to practise law in India and cannot appear at the CCI!
Reobserver 4 Nov 2012, 08:02
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By that yardstick, Observer seems to be a NLS grad who was royally thrown out of a UK firm.
Ignorance about EU practice... 11 Nov 2012, 18:47
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You clearly are a Dublin lawyer!! Why the angst with National Law grads? Is it because Dublin lawyers are not recognized to practise law in India and cannot appear at the CCI![/quote]


If I was a Dublin lawyer (which I am not) isn't it actually a great compliment that despite the handicap of not being able to appear at the CCI, India's premier law firm has still decided to hire a Dublin lawyer as the head of their nascent Competition Law Practice! That too despite so many "qualified" National Law grads like yourself who are willing to give an eye teeth for such a position.

Hmmm?!