C'mon, are you telling me that these movements have been happening because Lawyers are being sacked? Get a life and touch base with either of these Lawyers or juniors to know that reason for their movement. I mean, these Lawyers are known in their field, and you think a firm will just one day tell them they are not needed. C'mon!

Yes I Agree all the partners who have left Juris Corp have done so out of sheer frustration with Juris Corp HR and policies. Further they are all doing well and I even get my work done through their firms since Juris Corp's delivery has not been satisfactory post their departure and furthermore Juris Corp quotes exorbitant rates for its mediocre services

Quoting JC Observer:

Juris Corp was running excellently until 2011 when the founder Jayesh was running it. However once the co Founder started to run it along with her HR insultant, it has foundered by losing all its top talent (partners and Seniors) within 18 months

Juris cor p has certainly foundered of late under the co Founder as can be seen from partners leaving it left right and centre

After Mr Ookabhoy 2 Of Counsel(equivalent to par tner)Suruchi Dhavale and Shruti. Baya as well as 2 partner Deignates who joined on metgert of AM LawY Ms Tandon and Mr Joshi have left but JC has suppressed the news of their leaving very conveniently

JQuoting JC Observer:

Juris Corp was running excellently until 2011 when the founder Jayesh was running it. However once the co Founder started to run it along with her HR insultant, it has foundered by losing all its top talent (partners and Seniors) within 18 months

"HR insultant"?? - Hilarious and true!
JC has made a mockery out of itself. Letting its partners leave, no Principal associates, a handful of senior associates and an army of no merit no credit freshers makes one wonder how long this firm will last.

Quoting Downfall JC:

JQuoting JC Observer:

Juris Corp was running excellently until 2011 when the founder Jayesh was running it. However once the co Founder started to run it along with her HR insultant, it has foundered by losing all its top talent (partners and Seniors) within 18 months

"HR insultant"?? - Hilarious and true!
JC has made a mockery out of itself. Letting its partners leave, no Principal associates, a handful of senior associates and an army of no merit no credit freshers makes one wonder how long this firm will last.

All the Partners of Juris Corp have left not for money but out of sheer frustration at its arbitrary and oppressive HR policies enforced by the HR insultant
What must now be even more frustrating to Founder ( who is a brilliant man) is that all those who have left acrimoniously are doing great
Vandana Partner at AMSS
Huzefa/Freddy carrying on a flourishing niche practice of their own
Fraser Partner at Majmudar and so on

Quoting It might have been:

Quoting Downfall JC:

JQuoting JC Observer:

Juris Corp was running excellently until 2011 when the founder Jayesh was running it. However once the co Founder started to run it along with her HR insultant, it has foundered by losing all its top talent (partners and Seniors) within 18 months

"HR insultant"?? - Hilarious and true!
JC has made a mockery out of itself. Letting its partners leave, no Principal associates, a handful of senior associates and an army of no merit no credit freshers makes one wonder how long this firm will last.

All the Partners of Juris Corp have left not for money but out of sheer frustration at its arbitrary and oppressive HR policies enforced by the HR insultant
What must now be even more frustrating to Founder ( who is a brilliant man) is that all those who have left acrimoniously are doing great
Vandana Partner at AMSS
Huzefa/Freddy carrying on a flourishing niche practice of their own
Fraser Partner at Majmudar and so on

Even Their talented former seniors are doing great
Satyam Ashhurst Singapore
Sapna VP at Deutsche Bank
Harsha VP at J P Morgan
Dhiraj Senior at AZB
Prachi Senior at Kanga
Ankur Senior at AZB
Aditi M Senior at JSA
Aditi A Senior at Trilegal
Suchita Senior at AMSS and so on . They were all stagnating and frustrated at JC and are now doing very well

Few more names to add to the above list:
Naresh Pareikh(Trilegal),
Vishal Yaduvanshi(Luthra),
Ashish Porwal,
Nandgopal Anand (Khaitan),
Ramesh Sawant(Desai & Diwanji)
Pratish Kumar(JSA),
Utsav Johri(JSA),
Supriyo Bose,
Amruta Kelkar,
Shruti Chirania, etc. etc.

JC has transferred its HR head to Admin Head; the issues are transferred from one department to another. I don’t know how it will help to resolve ongoing issues when peoples are giving up one responsibility & adopting another. Now there will be more issues in Administration instead of HR. I guess JC wants to keep the problems within its boundaries.
JC needs a couple of best peoples with good experience, skills, knowledge etc. to handle HR & Admin department. Till the time JC will realize this it will be too late, there will be nothing left for administration and no humans to manage by human resources.

Quoting Downfall JC:

JQuoting JC Observer:

Juris Corp was running excellently until 2011 when the founder Jayesh was running it. However once the co Founder started to run it along with her HR insultant, it has foundered by losing all its top talent (partners and Seniors) within 18 months

"HR insultant"?? - Hilarious and true!
JC has made a mockery out of itself. Letting its partners leave, no Principal associates, a handful of senior associates and an army of no merit no credit freshers makes one wonder how long this firm will last.

It is already last amongst small to mid size firms

It all started when JC hired a lateral Partner (who I wud not name) from another firm... He has caused high attrition rates to whichever firm he has attached himself to - [...] and now this... Hope Mr. Jayesh realises this...

Quoting Insider Alert...:

It all started when JC hired a lateral Partner (who I wud not name) from another firm... He has caused high attrition rates to whichever firm he has attached himself to - [...] and now this... Hope Mr. Jayesh realises this...

Dear Kian, Why have you bowed to pressure and edited the name of the firms the lateral partner was earlier associated with. In any case any blame for the current JC rot lies solely at the foot of so called "co Founder" and HR insultant since it had started long before this lateral was recruited by JC. If anything this lateral has kept up flow of business without which JC would have already been toast

Quoting observer:

Juris Corp's flight of talent in last 18 mths shows the extent of damage a bad HR person can inflict on what used to be a great firm bursting with talent only 2 yrs ago

Sadly What is happening to JC is not attrition but systematic assassination of talent by HR. It was a great firm till 2011 when the long slide to the depths it is mired in today started with the loss of Huzefa Vandana and Freddy-3 of its most brilliant partners due to adverse HR policies which were being forced down people's throats Despite this JC does not have appeared to have learnt from its mistakes, maybe due to inflated egos

Please see comment 7.2.2 and 7.2.2.1 to see where the former JC talent is presently. Certainly does not look like redundancy of talent. It is JC which is on the way to redundancy

Quoting Guest:

Rumour has it that JC has CCTV cams looking down every associate's desk. Is that true?

Yes and Swipe cards that monitor washroom time of associates also

Wonder why Jayesh has allowed this state of affairs to go so far and let JC sink so low when its reputation and credibility i.e its very existence is under threat. Makes one wonder whether he is still in charge ?

Quoting jc victim:

Function of Hour in JC was to magnify peoples faults belittle their achievements and make them feel small so that their self esteem was lowered and þhe firm could get away with either very small or no increments This policy has backfired on JC

They would belittle achievements, greatly magnify minor infractions ( like coming 10 min late to office) and Founding partner would sound off about "bad times" just prior to appraisals all to deny legitimate increments to its people. Their HR would also insult people openly and in front of their colleagues

Wonder how many more skeletons waiting to tumble out of JC closet?

Even being part of losing JC cricket team in interfirm tournament could be a reason for withholding increment at appraisal time

Quoting Former Associate:

I have regretted many career moves but do not regret leaving Juris Corp since they treat their people very badly ( I was there for a little over a year). Maybe I regret not leaving it sooner

I agree, same experience to share. Ditto!

Quoting Guest:

Quoting Former Associate:

I have regretted many career moves but do not regret leaving Juris Corp since they treat their people very badly ( I was there for a little over a year). Maybe I regret not leaving it sooner

I agree, same experience to share. Ditto!

i totally agree with this statement and this is exactly what led to the downfall of the firm. though i have nothing against them anymore but i have seen it all happening when 3-3.5 years back jc brought in appraisal system, seniors who had themselves had not done anything wud grill juniors over not making some rubbish templates and checklists and overlook their great work in matters, certain seniors who wudnt do so, the managing partner wud grill those seniors for not doing so, so ultimately ppl wud score really low on appraisals making them feel really low on confidence and low on cash as it wud lead to no bonus and increments. fed up with low salaries and loads of crappy non client work to do and constant pressure from seniors who were themselves dis interested in working, certain mid levels left and whereever they joined they realised they r pretty good and not at as bad as they were told to be in jc. As mid level lawyers at jc used to be pretty thick, few ex jc helped others to leave or few just got inspired by those who left and left and as far as i know noone regrets quittig as they were fed up of pressure from seniors to do stupid work, a very good example being weekly team meetings that would go on for hours when client work was suffering and all that was discussed was status of matters and some rubbish updates which could be easily done over emails but these seniors loved them, thy just love sitting in the middle and throwing their weight around which included scolding for things like why desks are not clean, why someone is not wearing a tie etc, not circulating minutes of last weekly meeting in time, n every other most useless thing they cud think of to waste valuable time of each associate and then making them work late!

funny bit is one of the seniors who is one of the main cause of lot of juniors quitting and who would uphold any rubbish policy of jc as word of god and ofcourse was instrumental in formulating such rubbish policis has left and gone.

and finally, expecting three to four years in the profession to get clients for the firm and their increment and bonus bein dependent on no of meetings they fix up and no of clients they get was an absolute suicide attempt by jc. ppl get much bigger salaries and bonus for just working hard in other firms so why work for jc!

Brilliant expose of the rot in JC Certain Partners and seniors notably Huzefa Freddy Vandana Ookabhoy and Fraser realised the futility of these measures refused to toe official JC line and were insulted increments withheld and ultinately forced out by JC "co founder" and HOUR insultant

Appraisal systems like cut throat razors need to be wielded by skilled professionals In the hands of [...] they are likely to cut throats ias seems to have happened in the present case

this is so true......

Dear Informed Insider,Just as JC had inflated the no of partners for RSG rankings ( a separate write up by LI) it now has fictitious practice heads along with a retrospective" co founder" for a proprietorship firm.

Quoting alias:

Most of the above comments are negative. They may be correct, wrong or may may be influenced by heresay. And it will be very diffcult to agrue on any of the points. Hence, even if we assume that everything is right, I want to highlight certain positive things:

1. If all or most of the ex JCites are doing good, then some credit goes to JC also (especially the training);

2. Presentations and catch up sessions are very beneficial. No lawyer can say that they are useless. Any form of information is good for lawyers. Compare with any foreign law firms.

3. A person can leave for many reasons and that may be - to start a new firm, age, money etc. Blaming policies or admistration is wrong. I dont think any firm's policies are awesome / great.

4. And assuming that the negative statements made are correct, lets hope that JC rectifies all these.

" Presentations and catch up sessions are very beneficial. No lawyer can say that they are useless. Any form of information is good for lawyers. Compare with any foreign law firms. " ofcourse they are beneficial! not criticising the policy, criticising the way it was implemented, one of the partner who has quit and believed in such catch up sessions used to treat it as a "nap time" when a poor junior would give an update. The whole point is that ppl who were trusted with implementation of policies were implementing it in a wrong manner!! no junior or mid level could complain coz these trusted seniors were 'favorites' and any complain against them were digging ur own grave and meant getting more grilled at appraisals!! and HR was their old friend and so they had additional support. Nothing of this is hearsay and based first hand experience!

Only the Tax and IP presentations by the former tax and IP partner were excellent, informative and interesting but they are a thing of the past, ever since that partner quit JC . The others were just hot air where the presenter would read from the slides interspersed with "holier than thou" interruptions and pompous pronouncements from JC's founder partner who had assumed the divine right to interrupt everyone at any time

Freddy Daruwala, the tax and IP partner mentioned above has also written a beutiful eulogy for his former senior Mr T N Daruwala ( which is separately published on LI and BB). The piece shows his character respect and humility and I might add that his tax and IP knowledge as well as teaching skills were terrific. He was also a very helpful and humble person and had the utmost intellectual and personal integrity He was a part of JC for 7 years until 2012 and had handled recruitment until 2010 when he was sidelined and replaced by current HR insultant
This is the kind of person that JC could not retain. Speaks volumes about its HR

Judging by the comments it is unlikely any tears will be shed for JC

Quoting ex jc:

I kno little bit of these complex terms like sexuritisation nd derivatives becoz of these presentations. So, yes they are of some help.

What is sexuritisation Pass through certificates to the worlds oldest profession?

Quoting Alias:

It's not that bad
I can't believe that there is not one happy ex jc

A happy JC is like Tarzan or Phantom a fictional character

Quoting ex jc:

Quoting Alias:

It's not that bad
I can't believe that there is not one happy ex jc

A happy JC is like Tarzan or Phantom a fictional character

All ex JC are happy happy that they have left and are now ex

Agree that it was a great place to work until 2011. After that the rot started and I left them in 2013 when things there were awful and made you want to exit ASAP

Quoting Conciliator:

I had worked with JC until 2011 when it was a great place to work and have benefited from being there . I am distressed to see the comments appearing about it and even more distressed to find out upon checking up that most of them are true and not fabricated especiallly after 2011-2012 when Huzefa, Freddy and Vandana left

JC HR needs a severe overhaul to prevent this degeneration of talent and also needs to build bridges with its former people, possibly by hosting an event or a get together. It can also rope in its former partners Huzefa, Freddy or Vandana to build bridges esp Freddy since he is very senior and decent person and used to handle HR and judging by comments very respected by Former JC ites

Former JC ites on their part have to also realise that JC has given them good experience and if JC makes efforts to build bridges, try and meet it halfway so that venom and ill will is dissipated through dialogue

Noble objective but I do not think JC mgt will see sense in above since their HR is acting like the terminator towards talent

Brilliant, hilarious but sadly true about JC What was a great law firm with superb talent only 2 years ago is now become a butt of jokes especially for its people unfriedliness ime Hero to zero Please keep up the good work Kian and LI with your fearless truth based reporting and publication of uncensored comments