Cyril Amarchand competes, hires Khaitan competition PA Anshuman Sakle as partner post-Uberoi exit

Monday, 25 July 2016 By Legally India Law firms

Cyril Amarchand: To be up one comp partner after Uberoi leaves
Cyril Amarchand: To be up one comp partner after Uberoi leaves

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas has continued rebuilding its competition team - ahead of the impending departure of competition head Nisha Kaur Uberoi, who is currently serving out her notice period - with the hire of Khaitan & Co principal associate Anshuman Sakle as a partner.

Sakle had worked with Khaitan & Co since graduating from Symbiosis law school in 2009, barring a four-month secondment with the competition group of A&L Goodbody in 2014.

In June, Cyril Amarchand had promoted Bharat Budholia to partner in competition law.

We have reached out to Cyril Amarchand managing partner Cyril Shroff.

A Khaitan spokesperson said that Sakle was someone who had grown in the firm and they only wished the very best for him.

Update: A Cyril Amarchand press release stated:

Anshuman specializes in competition law, and has advised clients on issues related to market practice and market structures. He regularly advises on compliance aspects related to the enforcement provisions of the Competition Act, 2002 including providing assistance in mock ‘dawn raids’. Further, Anshuman has been involved in the drafting and filing of leniency applications with the Competition Commission of India (CCI).

He has also advised several clients across various sectors ranging from pharmaceuticals, automotive components, media and entertainment, financial services, heavy machinery, civil aviation, chemicals and information technology on applicability of Indian merger control on transactions and filed numerous pre-merger notifications with the CCI.

Earlier this year, Anshuman was also a Resource Person (for Merger Control), with the Indian Institute of Corporate Affairs…

Managing Partner Cyril Shroff commented on his appointment, saying, “We are delighted to have Anshuman on board with us, and will be aggressively expanding our competition law practice. His addition would add bench strength to service our clients in this growing area of law”

Anshuman Sakle, on his appointment said, “I am delighted to be joining Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas and extremely excited about the opportunity to work with an excellent team”

Cyril Amarchand MangaldasKhaitan & Copartner hiresAnshuman Sakle

Comments

Aila! 25 Jul 2016, 07:34
+16 -2
Kya ho ra hai Bhai? Koi toh samjhao CAM ko... Ye kya kar rahe ho.. Paku ko le lete....
Wellwisher 29 Jul 2016, 18:55
+0 -0
The only way to stem the rot is to get [...] to also handle the comp practice. He has the maturity, experience and depth to stabilise the ship and take it to the next level. With NKU gone, CAM needs a new national competition practice head. Time for Cyril to pass on the baton, and give [...] more decision making authority.
Ex-CAM 25 Jul 2016, 07:37
+26 -2
So CAM now has 2 graduates from 2009 heading the competition law practice in Mumbai. Does it shows the level of trust it puts in competent people or merely reeks of desperation?
CAMpetition 25 Jul 2016, 07:54
+16 -1
hasu ke rooyu?
ro 26 Jul 2016, 03:18
+3 -0
agar to cam main kam karta hain to ro
Chaiwala 25 Jul 2016, 07:57
+5 -3
.....baba mujhe bhi lelo....main ne bahut compete kia hai....chai paani mein!
LOLWA 25 Jul 2016, 08:03
+14 -4
The Not so- Official Release:

"We welcome the new hires to CAM. They will fit into the culture of full subjugation and complete horozontal prostration before lord ganesh. This hire and the recent promotion are a step towards ensuring that CAM does not attain a domminant position in any geographic market with its competition team. CAM imbibes the spirit of the practice it wishes to practise"
"

#ethics #conscientiouslawyers #walkingtheact #NISHAnaCHOOK #MyASSwothNOTHING
Recognition 25 Jul 2016, 08:24
+8 -64
CAM is the only large firm that truly recognises talent irrespective of no of years of experience. CAM's clients pay for talent - there are tons of people with experience. Other family firms - learn a thing or two from Mr C Shroff and his vision for this profession.
Hahaha 25 Jul 2016, 08:27
+15 -6
Hahahah
Babaji ka Thullu 25 Jul 2016, 09:04
+4 -2
The words used surely confirms that you are a Cammie :)
CAmmie 25 Jul 2016, 10:33
+1 -3
maybe, maybe not. If I am, does it titilate you?
Jon Snow 25 Jul 2016, 08:35
+22 -2
Time for someone senior from AZB mumbai competition team to move to Kco. #karma
Eyes Wide Shut 25 Jul 2016, 09:08
+40 -4
Wow. There used to be a time when CAM PAs would go to Khaitan as partners. The shoe is clearly on the other foot now. CAM is an excellent example on How To Destroy Your Own Law Firm aka How to voluntarily go from the top to the bottom in less than 10 years. Incredible!
My my 25 Jul 2016, 09:15
+5 -0
Desperate times call for desperate measures!
Singaporian 25 Jul 2016, 09:17
+9 -30
Seems CAM has recovered losses which it incurred on HR front. All the replacement of Ashwath and Nisha filled back with very good new people.
Jumping Now 25 Jul 2016, 09:28
+30 -2
Zindagi in deep shit, but behaving like Brad Pitt!!
Young Blood 25 Jul 2016, 09:49
+21 -20
CAM will do well with young blood. Remember, that Nisha was a nobody when she joined Amarchand- in fact she had no competition experience! She is what she is thanks to the platform the Shroffs have given her. People would be fools to believe otherwise! At least these "2009 graduates" have had 6-7 years of competition law experience. It's time to give way to the next generation of equally talented lawyers.
1SS 25 Jul 2016, 10:20
+12 -9
The first part is indeed correct- when Nisha came, she had zero competition experience.
LOLWA 25 Jul 2016, 13:40
+11 -1
and that was the case with the entire industry. no one had any experience so all started from scratch.

No, the scene has changed my friend.
Starkk 25 Jul 2016, 11:07
+7 -5
Haha. Cyril giving way to next generation? What is good for the gander;) Mantra seems to be lose good professionals and replace with unknowns. Lala shop mentality continues where platform is given to Ashwath and Nisha but same platform also given to 75 other partners in CAM who have not managed to create a market. Sad CAM has not been able to attract a single big corporate name to replace Ashwat and single big competition name to replace Uberoi. Could be platform issues?
Young Blood 25 Jul 2016, 11:49
+13 -6
What you fail to understand is that everyone starts by being "unknown". Unless you provide opportunity, nobody is going to be able to prove themselves. Ashwath and Nisha couldn't have either. Are you telling me they were the best since the day they started out? It's all a matter of experience. The show will go on and no one is indispensable.
Oldie 25 Jul 2016, 18:24
+4 -0
Yes and Baba will replace Cyril. Now Kian dont censor anything on the Shroffs!
Name and Alias 25 Jul 2016, 16:12
+5 -3
Frankly completion practice seems a bit over-hyped. As this point in India, how much of it is there to cover in it in any case ?
Experience? 25 Jul 2016, 10:42
+8 -3
The question is whether Mr Sakle has had 6-7 years of competition experience. As an in-house we remember working with him as a junior lawyer on a domestic offering at a time when he had just transitioned from an IP lawyer. Very well rounded experience though!
Scott 26 Jul 2016, 08:38
+3 -0
You are right. If I am not wrong, he was involved in a few capital markets deals too until recently.
Not happy 25 Jul 2016, 11:43
+25 -3
I am extremely unhappy with the partner level hire at CAM. This is nothing but desperation. 2009 pass out with 2 years in IPR practice is partner with CAM. So you are making partner with just 5 years of experience. This is sorry picture.

Sir, please correct this. This is the question of credibility and trust, if nothing else.
Sacchi Baat 25 Jul 2016, 11:47
+5 -3
Elephants are nothing, when Godzillas and King Kongs enter your country. Every family owned business in the legal space knows they will become equivalents of scheduled or cooperative banks once the big boys from international space come in. Just as the international banks just took over once the banking sector open day up, so will the local legal bigwigs be absorbed, chewed and dissolved and digested once the big boys come in. The only way for their survival is to merge with them. All steps taken here, are with that end objective. To be big in personnel numbers so that more payment will be considered when they are taken over.
RR Rajan 25 Jul 2016, 21:35
+2 -0
Erm...HSBC, StanChart and Citi are scheduled banks. May be you were talking about Public Sector Banks, but even that might not be entirely accurate.

Also, please specify the type of cooperative banking institution you are referring to. Stats say that StCBs are doing fairly well these days. Majority DCCBs not so much.

#JustSaying
Sachhi Facts 31 Jul 2016, 15:49
+0 -0
Barclays closed down. Other foreign banks are refusing to open more branches despite approvals coming from RBI. Fact is 70^% of banking is still in govt hands.
blabla 25 Jul 2016, 11:48
+12 -3
so someone who just made PA in KCO is good enough to be a partner in CAM. Just reflects how desperate the situation is.

Now what about the extremely competent homegrown 8 Year old experienced PA3s from the 2008 batch who have not even been made Partner Designates - why are they still continuing. Its only matter of time before they take flight.
Tea 27 Jul 2016, 03:43
+0 -0
Doesnt look like any of the 2008 batch ppl are leaving. They are too comfortable and probably they know they know takers in the market.
Guest 25 Jul 2016, 11:52
+25 -10
congrats baby...let the haters be haters....
awesome bro..and definitely one of the fastest elevations from symbi at a top firm...
really well done...
lalu 25 Jul 2016, 13:56
+3 -2
Boss in Competition it may happen because there are selected PPL who are doing competition however in M&A or GC or Banking or Cap Market, its rarest of the rare...
Soothsayer 25 Jul 2016, 12:07
+29 -15
Let us not spew venom guys. This guy Anshuman has done well fr himself. He has worked hard. If not anything, try and respect this guy. Its an achievement for him. Congratulations!!
Swapy 25 Jul 2016, 12:17
+20 -2
Aadmi accha hai but Partner ...nay...
Nicholas Hawksmoor 25 Jul 2016, 12:38
+10 -4
Anshuman is a gem of a person. Very happy for you! Congratulations!
POI 25 Jul 2016, 13:51
+8 -3
Yes...a gem like fools gold.

Very demoralising to the young SAs and PAs at CAM. Even for the partners promoted over the last 5-6 years.

There was a time when a fresh PA from CAM would go to KCO / trilegal / JSagar as a partner. Now its just the opposite.
Eyes Wide Shut 25 Jul 2016, 19:28
+6 -0
Yup. That's what I said at comment 8 above. The way things stand now, it basically seems that if you work at CAM, you have a close to zero chance of making partner (unless the person above you is poached and there is suddenly a "business case" for bumping you up). However, if you work anywhere else, I think your chances are pretty good.

This is so patently a poor management strategy that I'd say good luck to CAM running this way. Anybody at CAM with even half a brain will release that it's much better to be somewhere else/anywhere else than to remain at CAM if they want to progress.
Nicholas Hawksmoor 26 Jul 2016, 08:47
+1 -6
POI: nothing is static. There will be constantly changing dynamics in any marketplace and service industry. If it's demoralising, why don't the "demoralised" SAs and PAs leave? The simple fact is, demand for jobs in tier 1 firms outstrips the supply. They're in a commanding position. Perform or perish. It's one thing to be indifferent and another to be positively bitter of someone's success.
No barriers to entry 25 Jul 2016, 13:53
+11 -6
Whatever CAM's strategy, Anshuman is a wonderful human being and excellent lawyer! Thoroughly well deserved! Let's see how the haters talk about him in a few years' time.
Free fall 25 Jul 2016, 15:06
+12 -4
Nobody hates Anshuman. He made partner and kudos to him for that. He might be a good lawyer but so are many 2008 and 2009 grads in cam. I am sure they are also nice people. Are all being made partners? Are they even up for consideration to partnership? good for other law firms- many talented lawyers up for grabs!
Bonnd 25 Jul 2016, 15:21
+4 -1
Cam should categorise its partners into - Equity Partners, Salaried Partners and Associate-Partners.

Cam competition is now run by Associate-Partners. Is Buddhulia reporting to Anshuman?
Really 25 Jul 2016, 15:44
+1 -1
Free fall can you please tell us how many in CAM's Competition Team are 2008 & 2009 graduates, who could be made partners. Its a business decision or call, so nothing wrong with that
Seriously 25 Jul 2016, 18:29
+6 -1
Business decision. ROTFL. The practice has been wiped out by AZB hiring Uberoi.No business left. Also this makes cam competition now the juniormost team in the country. run by two 2009 graduates. for such a high stakes law where is the experience and grey hair>
Free fall 26 Jul 2016, 04:48
+1 -0
Really - make some sense please! I mean in cam as a whole and not competition practice in particular! Business decision warrants a senior partner to Bharat, not his batch mate!
Jamie 26 Jul 2016, 05:13
+3 -4
The partner is as good as his/her team. In this case her entire team has decided not to go with her except for one. That's not wiped out.
Kahan ho aap! 26 Jul 2016, 11:44
+5 -1
Boss, get your facts straight. At least four in her team chose to go with her or at least chose AZB over CAM. AZB has a fantastic competition team, across Delhi and Mumbai - Samir, Rahul, Kamya, Fadi are smart, professional and great people to work with. When Nisha joins, the new reinforced team will be indomitable.
Joke 27 Jul 2016, 04:59
+6 -3
Yes fantastic competition team across Delhi and Mumbai - that's why 2 of the 4 chose to go to Bangalore!
Haha 29 Jul 2016, 18:29
+1 -0
One moved from CAM Bangalore to AZB Bangalore, the other's folks are in Bangalore. Also, if you assume the two work on their own, minus the Delhi and Bombay teams, then clearly you're not thinking.
LOLZ 28 Jul 2016, 11:47
+1 -3
Anybody who thinks the AZB competition team pre-Nisha is any good, is seriously deluded
Joke is on you 1 Aug 2016, 14:30
+3 -0
This has to be a comment from one of Nisha's minions. AZB team- now you know what you're in for!
Cerseii 26 Jul 2016, 17:32
+3 -8
Not only is Uberoi leaving, she is taking CAM marquee clients and her key teammate, Soumya Hariharan also a 2009 graduate with international and Indian competition experience. The rest of her handpicked team has already joined at AZB in Bombay and Bangalore and counting down to when she joins. Uberoi, Sameer, Rahul, Soumya and Kamya are going to rock it. Zia sends her regards and says: competition law is no "childs play"!
Get Real 27 Jul 2016, 03:59
+7 -2
Handpicked? Surely 3 A0s with no competition experience must have been handpicked!
Seriously? 29 Jul 2016, 18:32
+2 -1
2.5 years + 1 year + 1 year is not equal to no competition experience. Math 101.
summary 1 Aug 2016, 14:32
+2 -1
it is 2 years experience in summarizing orders and filing!
Focus 25 Jul 2016, 16:49
+1 -0
What is his book size? How profitable is he?
Rsjaram 25 Jul 2016, 19:28
+4 -2
This news is futuretense... Bhushan rajaram joining CaM chennai after 1 year... No effect...
Book size 25 Jul 2016, 19:30
+12 -0
A4
A6 25 Jul 2016, 20:50
+6 -2
So much negativity. Why can't we just congratulate Anshuman. Wishing him the best like his former employer has done.
Shoe Size 25 Jul 2016, 21:04
+0 -0
When is Nisha's last day? How many from her team going with her next door. [...]
blabla 26 Jul 2016, 05:03
+9 -2
What I do not understand is why cant CAM pay top dollars and pick up a half decent actual competition partner from the market. Either 1) they do not have the money and do not expect competition to generate that much revenue (typically its self sustaining); 2) no one is willing to join as no top M&A lawyers left other than Cyril to bring in the references; or (3) Cyril just wants yes men. All 3 are real sad reasons for a once great law firm.
Congo 26 Jul 2016, 05:11
+2 -4
Congratulations Anshuman. Good move and all the best. I am sure you will do well and create a niche for yourself in CAM.
tambourine man 26 Jul 2016, 06:35
+1 -4
Don't blame the player..blame the game. While people may have severe angst issues, maybe the people on the inside were not visible enough to be elevated - it is a game after all isn't it?
2009 batch supporter 26 Jul 2016, 07:17
+4 -7
Congratulations Anshuman! Let the haters hate. And for all the idiots who claim that Cyril only wants Yes men, they need to take a walk in any major law firm in India, whether you have gray hair or not, invariably you need to be a Yes man/woman. This is reality as long as the family culture exists, no point blaming one law firm.

Anshuman has done great for himself, what is the point of this negativity? I can hardly think of any 2008 / 2007 partners who are rainmakers, let's get real.
Symbi 26 Jul 2016, 08:24
+5 -4
if ur memory is good then what about, Harsh Maggon, Shashank Jain, Deep Roy, Akta Tyagi - 2007, Nikunj, Aditya C, Aditya Mehta, Medha Deo - 2008 and Gauri Puri, Pallav Raghuvanshi, Harshita Srivastava...
2009 batch supporter 26 Jul 2016, 08:39
+5 -3
Hahaha. Are you joking? I know most of them and this is a joke sorry. Rainmaker for me means someone who can bring his/her own clients, and retain them if he moves somewhere. Although most of these are good professionals, they cannot claim to have that quality. It's noone's fault, it's the way the client market exists in India.
Let it be 26 Jul 2016, 08:29
+3 -6
Cyril Shroff is not a fool to take such a decision. Sakle has to be a man with either good contacts or very good with his work. Also one needs to give due regard to the fact that he has expertise in a very niche area of practice, which probably played an important role. May be what Cyril Shroff wants is a good competition law practitioner who can review his transactions from the Competition Law perspective and help him retain the tag of a full service law firm without any hiccup.
Partner 26 Jul 2016, 08:38
+2 -0
We do not have dedicated Partner for competition and we have recently closed an acquisition of 9,400 Cr. Its all about billing.
KCO 26 Jul 2016, 08:29
+10 -0
In 2009 - IPR, 2010 and 2011 - Cap Market, 2012 - 2016 Competition, What expertise and book size? we are also grown up in this market only!
Ex KCO insider 26 Jul 2016, 09:35
+1 -5
More power to u Sakle. Well deserved n well done! Grey hair don't mean shit.
Positive 26 Jul 2016, 09:37
+6 -9
In 2012, when ELP lost Samir Gandhi to AZB and hired Ravisekhar as an Associate Partner from Luthra where he was a Managing Associate - Hate mongers made similar noise and slammed ELP and even Luthra ( which was always at the receiving end those days). Today, ELP has a leading competiton practice in the Delhi market (comparable to the top tiers or maybe even better), specially on the enforcement side! Anshuman - All the best! Congratulations to CAM!
Wah Taj 26 Jul 2016, 09:53
+5 -1
So a PA is brought in as a Partner? I thought CAM never brought in people above their current position rather below it. What happens to those who are senior to this guy?
2010 26 Jul 2016, 09:55
+12 -1
Ashwath & Nisha's replacement LOL!!! CSS- I am of the class of 2010 and will settle for partner designate. I have done a few M&A deals and once looked at merger filing document
Apollo 11 26 Jul 2016, 10:56
+5 -3
After all the new mothers requested the management to open a cheche, their wishes have all come true.

All the babies of the world, CAM welcomes you.
Enough 26 Jul 2016, 11:23
+14 -2
Why does everything have to be about Ashwath and Nisha- are they the only 2 lawyers in India presently? I hope not!
Outsider 26 Jul 2016, 13:31
+3 -5
Indeed. If you are a frog in the well - not just an ordinary frog, but a frog suffering from acute myopia, then yes - these two are the only lawyers.
Why Enough? 27 Jul 2016, 09:50
+4 -4
They both are hard-hitting and brilliant lawyers. Get work on their own in their own names. If you are jealous of them, stay in CAM. If you like them, go to AZB. If neither, go back and fill in your timesheets..
Of course 1 Aug 2016, 14:35
+6 -0
Agree with you on the Ashwath bit. Nisha - not so much! Which is why Ashwath managed to take his whole team- he's brilliant no doubt! Not the same with Uberoi- red ipsa loquitor
Blind Following 26 Jul 2016, 11:25
+13 -11
Nisha has no book- she has merely followed Ashwath. Would not have had the courage to go, if not for him. For some reason, his problems in CAM became her problems!
Utter Nonsense 26 Jul 2016, 11:34
+5 -7
Clearly you have no clue. Feel free to live in your magical world. Reality is far from what you know.
LOL 26 Jul 2016, 12:04
+9 -5
No book??!! You every think why CS is keeping her as clients said they are moving! He even told her if she wants to leave before the garden period, she should sign-up to not poaching any of his clients!
Biscuit 27 Jul 2016, 03:57
+3 -2
Absolutely not true. Wait for her to join and you will know how many high profile matters have moved from cam to azb including the biggest m&a transaction this year!
Cammie 28 Jul 2016, 16:38
+5 -0
Nexit is not happening. Cam desperately needs NKU to continue billing. The longer she stays the more chance I get of a bonus this year.
Symbi2008 26 Jul 2016, 12:43
+13 -6
Yes there are many people at CAM who maybe junior to Anshuman but have not been made partners...

Will that irk them, offcourse it will but does that mean that Anshuman deserves such vitriol for no fault of his own, absolutely not...

Anshuman works in a niche practice where there are a handfull of trully qualified practioners and he is smart, hardworking and humble...

There has to be have been a business case for CAM to hire him given their current vaccum and he seemed to have been in the right place at the right time in his career to get this jump..

Would this have been possible if CAM still had its erstwhile partners, maybe not.. but the fact is there was a void and Anshuman was chosen to fill it...

Lets stop being nasty, give credit where its due and wish him well..

Congrats Anshuman.. you have done us proud and wishing you all the best so that you can prove all the naysayers wrong...
POI 26 Jul 2016, 15:03
+7 -1
The simple fact is that CAM goofed up on this hire. I agree, not Anshumans fault, he got a sweet deal but CAM should ask himself

1. [...]
2. Does the hire have experience comparable to Uberoi? Absolutely not
3. [...]
4. Will this demotivate the PAs? Totally
5. Was this a kneejerk reaction to Uberoi's move? Probably
6. Will this benefit CAM in the long run? Most probably not.

Comparisons to Uberoi when she was new to competition law are bad. Competition law itself was very new so she had the benefit of learning as the law matured. Now the uncertainties are less and its a lot harder for a newbie like anshuman to learn on the job.

Overall a blunder by CAM methinks. Certainly no justification for bringing in this kind of new hire.
Dumbly 2008 26 Jul 2016, 15:33
+3 -3
The rants are not against him smart ass!
LI Joke of the Day 26 Jul 2016, 15:35
+13 -6
Heard within the competition community:

How long is CAM keeping Uberoi?

Answer: Until the 2009 kids grow up;)
Symbi2008 26 Jul 2016, 16:00
+3 -2
dumbly 2008

bro your rants maybe against the organization but if you were as smart as your name suggests...

you would suck it up.. take the fact that someone got a sweet deal in your stride and go back to putting yourself in a position where you could get such a deal..

accept and move on
askn 26 Jul 2016, 16:03
+6 -6
Come what may, SAM competition is indomitable!
JSA 26 Jul 2016, 16:04
+0 -0
So no more wild Goose chase?
Feminist 26 Jul 2016, 16:25
+12 -6
2 male partners to replace one Woman Super partner!!! Thank you, NKU! We need a lot more women like you in the legal profession. Glad to see some many young and bright women doing well in once what was a male dominated profession
Ab Bas 26 Jul 2016, 16:43
+0 -8
That is why a COO is need. Best guy in ttown is operation dire. Joseph. Super years of experience n loyal to madam and sir. Veterian of lots of battles. Total control over oepratios to perfection. And also helping tech and IT on valuable advise. Perfect for Cam. Very much loyalty.
dungree 26 Jul 2016, 19:05
+3 -0
[...]Also where does a competition hire figure in a COO's agenda? Clearly some brain application missing here!
Backstreet Boys 26 Jul 2016, 17:00
+5 -4
Heard the 2009 competition boys are already competing with each other? Sibling rivalry!
RC 30 Jul 2016, 14:02
+0 -0
Also common knowledge that 2009 boy 1 did not know about 2009 boy 2's hire. Took cam less than a month to relaise 2009 boy 1 cannot cope.
Guest 27 Jul 2016, 09:24
+2 -2
As you sow, so shall you reap. Thank God we left that sinking ship.
cravath associate 27 Jul 2016, 18:25
+4 -3
Khaitan is such a below average firm.They send people to such an unknown firm like Goodbody for secondment. Glad that I don't meet Khaitan lawyers here in 8th Avenue or anywhere in midtown Mahattan. All Indian firms except AZB are tier 2. Deal volume for top M&A shops like Cravath was 927 billion USD. Barshay broke records by serving as lead adviser on a staggering $292 billion in M&A transactions last year alone—roughly a third of Cravath's $927 billion in announced deals in 2015. Scott Barshay and Faiza Saeed are the leading M&A lawyers of this generation. And here we call Shuva and Cyril deal makers.
Please Stop 28 Jul 2016, 04:20
+8 -0
What a comparison! As you may be aware, Indian legal market is still in its nascent stage as compared to countries like US. Moreover, Indian economy opened only 25 years ago. People like Scott are globally recognised for their competence. Obviously Indian lawyers will take some time to reach at that stage. It is not due to lack of competence, but overall exposure due to various factors.

Still Cyril, Zia, Haigreve have made their mark globally. So let them do their work and you focus on your work. Being a Cravath Associate, you should not waste your time on these things. Better to do some billable work.
Cravat 28 Jul 2016, 09:06
+6 -0
AZB is the ONLY Tier 1 firm in India? And why does AZB get this rare honour.....is it because you worked there before getting a job "here at 8th Avenue"? Am sure Zia must be choking with emotion at this reaffirmation ;-)
Hah 28 Jul 2016, 09:21
+6 -1
Don't worry, the guy is not even from Cravath. Just one of those idiotic trolls. In fact he had the same comment (with the only exception of naming all Indian firms as tier 2 in that) on some other story. He probably hasn't even gone anywhere near 8th Avenue! Just a troll...
Cravat 28 Jul 2016, 15:08
+0 -0
That's probably true :-) And by the way, how come Cravath didn't advise on the mother of tech M&A deals - Microsoft + LinkedIn? :-)
cravath associate 28 Jul 2016, 17:30
+0 -0
We have worked on bigger deals like the Royal Dutch and Shell merger
. The deal volume for our firm was 927 Billion USD. That number speaks for itself
cravath associate 28 Jul 2016, 17:25
+4 -4
I must admit that you have a lot of respect for lawyers in 8th avenue. Btw I don't think you even work in a tier 1 firm according to Indian standards. My point is Indian lawyers have no experience in leveraged buyouts(as Section 67 does not leveraging the assets of the target company to finance the deal), nor have any of you defended a company against any activist shareholder like Carl Icahn and Bill Ackman to name a few. Faiza Saeed recently gave strategic advise to Yahoo on the whole deal involving Verzon. Doing M&A work in the US is extremely challenging. Also, the quality of education in Indian law schools is pathetic as academia is not a sort after profession in India.You can't compare a Cravath partner to an Indian partner except Zia who is inn.a league of her own. With all due respect, I don't think Haigreve can even be compared to Shuva let alone Cyril.
Hmmm 29 Jul 2016, 10:42
+6 -0
Sir,

Post your brilliant post, I believe you have single-handedly ensured that the reputation of Cravath dips multiple points. With your writing style, errors in language and the beautiful use of 'sort' - I would advice you start applying to some of our tier 4/5 firms (and give them the pleasure of telling you to stay at Cravath).

Now go on and point out errors in this post!
cravath associate 29 Jul 2016, 18:38
+1 -2
My bad "sought"*.Just the kind of reply I expected from a typical tier 10 Indian grammar nazi, pointing out silly mistakes but no mention of the substantive bits of my comment. Btw are you done formatting and proofreading the document your illiterate partner asked you to in that tier 10 Indian firm. Remember Kian is not going to pay you to proofread comments on legally india
HotDog wala 29 Jul 2016, 15:04
+0 -0
Dude- come back and help me split the buns. Don't make me withdraw your H1 Visa coz then you'll have no choice but to go back to your local district court where you used to sell kachoris!
Kachori Vendor 30 Jul 2016, 06:53
+1 -0
Cravath Associate sounds more like Cravath Managing Partner than an associate. Kian much be privileged to have someone so accomplished commenting on his site.
Pick up 28 Jul 2016, 09:50
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Kian bhai, you haven't picked up the SBI goes to AZB and SAM for merger news from Economic Times yesterday? B&B has published it. Hurry up baba.... Kitna late!
Kahan ho 30 Jul 2016, 12:51
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THAT, must be painful for CAM to watch.
Cammie 30 Jul 2016, 14:00
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That and Uberoi going to the CCI with her clients accompanied by none of the 2009 partners or their associates. Clients are standing by her while CAM watches from the sidelines and gets the billing. Given the high dependency on her and the billings CAM is hanging onto her until the very last day. Such a sorry state of affairs for CAM.
No hoper 31 Jul 2016, 18:05
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Pathetic losers bitching here...either they have not been made partner yet, or were made up when they had crossed 50!
No hoper 1 Aug 2016, 18:46
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Hey Kian, where is my comment I posted yesterday, lambasting the jealous hordes who can't bear to see a young associate make partner?
kianganz 1 Aug 2016, 19:07
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Had been moderated as 'pathetic losers bitching' lowered the tone of the discussion even further (if that's possible) :)
Kco 4 Aug 2016, 04:32
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Kco team has collapsed with Anisha, Aditi and now Anshuman gone.
For all to know 4 Aug 2016, 10:13
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We are dominant and we are lovin' it. Sammies better watch out :P
camfanboy 10 Aug 2016, 07:35
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uncle cas is getting too much into his own systems and processes. those were good, even necessary to an extent, in a behemoth like amss. but when ure struggling to build ur practice, again, its better to focus on the work and clients (and by extension, hire good people and reward them well) instead of getting muddled up in your own systems and processes and umpteen committees. good luck cam.. once part of a dream firm to work in for all law schoolites "with stars in their eyes", now just a shadow of its former self.
JSA Tiger shroff 19 Oct 2016, 09:37
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Varghese is the best partner.Period
Lekha-65 18 Dec 2017, 08:36
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Yes
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