ICCA seeks to rescue liberalisation talks with 8-week roadmap to hammer things out • Responds to BCI slights

The Indian Corporate Counsels Association (ICCA) has proposed eight weekly meetings between various stakeholders in the legal services liberalisation discussion, in order to prepare a status report on the points of consensus and disagreement between them.

ICCA made a strong case for continuing the liberalisation talks, despite the Bar Council of India (BCI) having cancelled its involvement, and has circulated its letter to all state bar councils, the BCI, relevant ministries, law school vice chancellors, Assocham, FICCI, the Society of Indian Law Firms (Silf), the Indian National Bar Association (INBA) and others.

(Read full letter below or click here).

In its letter addressed to law secretary Suresh Chandra, dated 13 October, the ICCA has reiterated that it is an important stakeholder in the liberalisation discussion, and proposed that a committee should be formed with representatives of all stakeholders of the discussion.

This committee should convene weekly meetings, of 3-4 hours each, on the following themes, according to ICCA: Reciprocity, the regulator, phased entry, defining ‘Indian law’ and who can advise on it, regulatory board, professional liability insurance and continued legal education, restrictions on MDPs and non-lawyer investments, and other clarifications.

ICCA proposal of a 8-week, 8-meeting roadmap to hammer out liberalisation
ICCA proposal of a 8-week, 8-meeting roadmap to hammer out liberalisation

This letter also responded to the Bar Council of India’s (BCI) comment that the ICCA was “some unheard of organisation”, in the BCI’s 29 September letter through which it pulled out of the government’s liberalisation discussions. ICCA stated:

“ICCA and its consultant The RASICH Group represent the corporate counsels of India, who in turn advise both public and private sector companies - the largest group of clients that seek advice from lawyers. Accordingly, they are amongst the most important stakeholders in this discussion, due to their position as drivers of the legal economy and receivers of the legal services for which this entire discussion is taking place.”

The ICCA wrote that it has always had a threefold intent in its submissions: to promote progress of the Indian legal system, to protect domestic interests and to be fair and equitable to foreign lawyers.

It has also clarified its stand with respect to the seven stakeholders in the discussion – Indian citizens, independently practicing lawyers, law firms, the BCI and bar councils, Indian corporate counsels, students and corporate India:

Requesting the ministry to “kindly advise the BCI and the other stakeholders of a collaborative and meaningful approach towards these discussions”, the ICCA has made the following, among other, suggestions:

  1. Enact a separate legislation to govern foreign lawyers, instead of including them within the definition of “advocates” under the Advocates Act 1961
  2. Have a regulator for foreign lawyers, separate from the BCI, of which the BCI’s chairman would be an integral part. This regulator should have the involvement of the BCI and the state bar councils, even though this involvement is not imperative.
  3. The ICCA has identified 22 issues to be tackled: reciprocity, phased entry, restriction on practice of Indian law, restriction on 100 per cent ownership by foreign law firms of their Indian practices, process for promulgating the changes in the law, dedicated regulatory board, dedicated secretariat, regulating fly in and fly out, , separate regulations for foreign lawyers and law firms, registration documentation, post entry disclosure mechanism, registration and renewal fee, professional liability, no adverse restrictions on Indian advocates, restriction on multi-disciplinary practices, restriction on non-lawyer investments, clarification on LLP structure, advertising guidelines, promotion of continued legal education (CLE) and clarification for arbitrations.
  4. The ICCA has also clarified the status of each of the abovementioned issues in the BCI’s proposed draft amendment to the Advocates Act.

ICCA letter to law secretary proposing to continue liberalisation talks

Comments

Guest 21 Oct 2016, 23:27
+17 -1
Nice to see ICCA considers students and law schools as stakeholders (unlike Kian, who thinks only his beloved Manan Mishra and Lalit Bhasin matter)
Superman 22 Oct 2016, 07:03
+15 -1
Kian - What is the rasich group? Is it a bird, a plane or wait is it....??
Gurudutt 22 Oct 2016, 15:08
+2 -16
Anyone becomes important for kian if they support his view. He wants foreign firms to come in, which is why he is making heroes out of nobodies. i have never even heard of rasich/icca. tomorrow a sparrow will write a letter and he will publish it as long as it is anti bci and pro opening up.
YoJi 26 Oct 2016, 09:53
+2 -0
That one like... thats Gurudutt himself :)
Well 22 Oct 2016, 17:17
+12 -2
Ok, so you haven't heard of them. Neither have I. but have you actually tried reading the substance of the letter, or was it holding you up in your rush to come here and be a smart alec in the comments section?
In-house 23 Oct 2016, 05:58
+8 -0
Gurudatt.. They say that it doesnt matter who they are, while they are relevent, they just want the issue to be discussed. I cant find any fault in that stand. Its sensible, neutral and implementable advice coming from their stable. If you have so much of a problem stop commenting on LI, Kian is publishing your comments as well isnt he?
Frand 22 Oct 2016, 07:09
+14 -0
Do they really benefit? the Indian lawyers? then why this hulla-balla? Will they lose their work or will it increase? anyone shed some light? The law cant be for the elite - india is of the people for the people. We also cater only to the top 1%?

the silf and the bci is the top 1%. open your eyes. students will benefit. indian lawyers will have more sources of revenues. work will increase!

Kya kar rahein ho yaar? Baahar se bhi dikh raha hai ki everyone is letting themselves be steamrolled. jaago vakilon jaago!
Content 22 Oct 2016, 17:52
+8 -1
Read the entire attachment. The Bill is terrific drafting and the footnotes simply brilliant. It clearly addresses EVERYone's concerns. I find it difficult to imagine that anyone will have a problem with this from a content perspective. Obviously self-interests will prevail and this will be stalled. How much of a say do these people really have? I hope it won't be a case of brilliant minds going to waste because of lack of JUGAAD!
interesting 23 Oct 2016, 04:39
+3 -9
ICCA says its an important stakeholder of the Indian legal sector liberalisation process and wants sweeping changes in Indian legal framework for opening of legal sector for foreign law firms. Yet, it shies away of pointing out the most basic legal issue troubling Indian inhouse cousels. The stupid requirement to not possess a 'Sanad' or practice certificate when one is employed as an inhouse counsel. why?

If members of ICCA think they can take on the BCI and other organisations on legal market liberalisation then why not get this basic anomaly hurting their interests resolved first?
Smart alec Part 2 23 Oct 2016, 05:17
+6 -1
Please read footnote 27 of their Bill. None of the commenters seem to want to do any work! They have already made a smart suggestion with respect to the sanad issue.
In-house 23 Oct 2016, 05:55
+8 -0
It isn't really a stupid requirement. As an Advocate you have privilege attached to you communications. As a salaried in-house counsel, you are in too much of a conflict situation to receive benefits of privilege. If it has to be done, it needs to be thought out.
BCI 23 Oct 2016, 13:59
+6 -2
Kudos to thease folks for standing up to BCI! about time someone speaks up for the students and common lawyer! What is happening isshameful to Shri Modi's vision for reforms. Please dont stall the one true chance India has to be a super power!
Request 23 Oct 2016, 14:06
+8 -0
Someone should conduct a full survey of students and lawyers.
Client 23 Oct 2016, 14:29
+6 -2
Rasich has the only 'smart' set of management professionals in the market. Highly exclusive and result oriented. My firm keeps having disagreements with them, but they almost always end up being right. If this has come from them - there are enough firms that will follow them blindly.
Guest 23 Oct 2016, 15:19
+2 -1
I am sitting here in North America, and even I can see the sense of this proposal. Stop with the eyewash and start getting down to the nuts and bolts. I hope the law ministry listens to this solution. These are the only neutral and sensible people in this debate - I say.
Dazed and Confused 25 Oct 2016, 20:58
+3 -0
Just say "Canada," for God's sake. No American would ever write "North America." Nothing wrong with Canada. Just own it.
Canada 26 Oct 2016, 04:00
+1 -0
Could also be Mehico!
Student1 24 Oct 2016, 04:12
+2 -0
So nice to see ICCA writing to all the VC's as well. Please also reach out to students, you will have an army supporting you.
Dazed and Confuses 25 Oct 2016, 20:53
+1 -3
The ICCA is clearly a front powered by a
management consulting group. As non-lawyers leading non-lawyers, they have no business at the table. They are obviously bei the used by some interest or other.

Like it or not, BCI is the only essential party in this discussion who can legitimately represent lawyer's interests. If you attack BCI's legitimacy it strengthens the hands of non-lawyers to interfere with the profession. Please do not confuse the opinion one might have of BCI's current leadership with the necessity of protecting the independence of lawyers. BCI is not the spanner - it is the works. Or should be.
Canada 26 Oct 2016, 04:06
+1 -1
Bhaisahab, in the ideal world also, these guys are doing what is needed, putting out something material for a debate, something none of us lawyers have done.

In this BCI infested world, I'd rather have the fly on the wall contribute rather than the BCI decide on our future. Have you even seen the BCI amendment proposals for the Advocates Act?

Bottomline is that these fellows are doing something that no lawyer had the guts to do. Stand up to the BCI.

On a lighter note, it could be a 'front' powered by Kian, since he is the only other person we know with the ****s to stick it to the BCI!