1/2 Kilo ganja found by police on 2 Nalsar students

2 Nalsar students allegedly in possession of a lot of weed (and some beers)
2 Nalsar students allegedly in possession of a lot of weed (and some beers)

Two Nalsar Hyderabad students were arrested for allegedly possessing 475gms of weed, reported the Deccan Chronicle.

The students were caught by Shameerpet inspector Bhaskar Reddy near the Nalsar campus when they were returning to college in an autorickshaw while still in possession of the packets of weed (as well as two beer bottles and three beer cans, according to the reports). They had been consuming the weed for the last one year, it reportedly emerged in the police interrogation.

They had procured the weed from Dhoolpet in Hyderabad, after leaving campus at 6pm and travelling to Dhoolpet on a public bus. At Dhoolpet they had asked a cluster of parked autorickshaw drivers for the weed and one of them had produced a half kilogram packet.

Both the students are 20 years old and are in their second year of LLB at Nalsar, according to the Mumbai Mirror and according to the apprehending inspector Reddy this is the first instance of Nalsar students being caught with banned narcotic substances.

A case under the Narcotic Substances Act 1988 has been registered against them.

The Nalsar administration was not reachable for comment at the time of going to press.

Two JGLS Sonepat students were arrested by the Haryana police in September after they were caught with 1kg of weed.

Comments

Ex-NLU 24 Oct 2017, 08:05
+25 -15
We all know this is not something appalling and quite common in all law schools. Naming them here pretty much ensures that their respective careers would be blotted. A little more tact please Kian.
BOOM 24 Oct 2017, 08:44
+14 -17
Kian and LI team, please maintain some commercial sense whilst publishing names of students (!!!) - marijuana use is a joke in this country - civilized societies have now started to embrace it and uncivilized societies (like ours) will follow suit sooner or later. This article may cause serious damage to their prospective careers, please remove it at the earliest.
kianganz 24 Oct 2017, 09:14
+5 -11
In principle, agree, though their names are mentioned in lots of articles linked to...

Just checked the Jindal article though, where we didn't mention names, so we'll make the same change here...

Thanks
Kian
Guest 24 Oct 2017, 10:45
+12 -17
Kian please do not cower to the NLU mafia. Publish the names and photos.
NLU Mafioso 24 Oct 2017, 11:07
+4 -14
Sir, what Mafia are you referring to here? Kindly let us know.
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 20:57
+8 -5
You. The one who names himself/herself as Mafioso! Aren't you guys supposed to be smart enough to figure this out, or has the marijuana burned all the neurons?
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 20:56
+15 -3
The professor allegedly sexually harasses a student, he is rightly named.
http://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/nlsiu-20160406-7408

However, the moment a student is caught by the police (not internal institutional authorities) Kian bows down to consumer pressure.

Independent media like yours developed because it was felt that mainstream media was bowing too easily to certain quarters. Now you do the same. Good job Kian.

Waiting for the down voting from the same students who stand up for narcotic offenders and sexual perverts (another NALSAR senior from the 2016 batch).
Cliche eg 25 Oct 2017, 08:02
+9 -0
So is murder in India (or rape in Delhi)! Stop reporting?
NLU Stud 24 Oct 2017, 09:48
+41 -0
Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas will still recruit them.
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 20:59
+8 -1
Unless, Kian is able to overcome the consumer pressure from these mafia student bodies and questions the firms on their complicity in extending opportunities to known drug dealers.
Goofball 26 Oct 2017, 04:46
+6 -7
It's just pot. Please educate yourself a little. Your comments (I'm assuming it's you in all these comments asking for names to be published) reflect a certain sadism and schadenfreude on your part. I can only hope you find some empathy and compassion in your heart and realize that these are actual human beings you are talking about.
Guest 26 Oct 2017, 17:44
+6 -0
Another generation could say it is just banter (for sexual harassment). The point is that when a group determines rules, and media kowtows to it - we know that the 4th estate is shackled. It is even worse when the 4th estate is shackled by consumers.
Guest 26 Oct 2017, 17:48
+8 -0
Also, actual human beings do go to jail for NDPS related offences. You don't cry for them. You cry when your 'world' comes within the grasp of the law. It is because you are afraid and wish to use your (parents'/family's) position/standing to leverage power on the system.

YRM and AK were caught committing an offence. They are adults. They were rightly named. Then, began the consumer pressure and Kian pee'd himself and back tracked.
Guest 24 Oct 2017, 10:36
+0 -1
I like how the entire article is in bold apart from the first word.
kianganz 24 Oct 2017, 10:58
+0 -0
You must be imagining things...

(na, just kidding, there was a formatting error, now corrected :)
Guest 24 Oct 2017, 10:43
+24 -9
When Jindal students were caught NALSAR and the NLU mafia were having a field day mocking Jindal students, calling them spoilt brats etc etc. Now these same people are begging Legally India not to disclose names, and then defending Marijuana use saying that it is legal in the Netherlands LOOOL.

The truth is that NLU students behave worse than Jindal students. Students have been sexually abused through ragging at NLUJ (reported), NLSIU (hushed up) and NALSAR (hushed up). A NALSAR student was arrested for harassing an air hostess (reported) and no action was taken by the college. At least at Jindal students are suspended or expelled.
NLU Mafioso 24 Oct 2017, 11:09
+6 -10
Sir, we still have money left to spend :(
Ex-NALSAR 24 Oct 2017, 12:11
+8 -11
Ummm, y'all had convicted rapists. We have an administration that engaged with the student body when an open letter in re: sexual harassment was penned. Let's not try to compare the wild west wasteland you inhabit with the (largely) tame wasteland we inhabit.
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 21:00
+8 -3
You at NALSAR have had some of your own. Does a certain [...] from the 2016 batch ring a bell? The pathetic git was filming an upskirt video of an air hostess younger than himself!
Guest 26 Oct 2017, 07:42
+6 -8
Since you're at Jindal, let me explain to you what conviction means: Declared guilty of an offence by a court of law. No Nalsarite has been declared guilty of rape - the person you speak of was not convicted.

I know it doesn't make much of a difference in your world, but since I've actually read law and not partied for my 5 years, thought I'd explain anyway.
Guest 26 Oct 2017, 17:51
+13 -0
So a unconvicted sex offender is fine with you? Let's not kid ourselves. PA filmed the poor girl upskirt. Then you (NALSAR) got AB's dad involved (former police chief of AP) and got the matter 'resolved'. Kian didn't have the balls to follow up on that story.
Guest 24 Oct 2017, 10:50
+14 -2
JGLS expelled the 2 students caught with drugs. Let's see what NALSAR does.
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 21:03
+8 -1
FM, and NALSAR, doesn't have the balls. Just last year marijuana was found from the rooms of a certain [...] and another. Also, a first year go between was established. These guys were selling 2 joints for 150/-. A number of students had openly presented claims to this as well.

However, instead of involving the police, or VC - in cohorts with the SBC President and other members - had let these guys off the hook. [...] was allowed to withdraw from the institution despite being a known drug dealer on campus. [...] seems to stepped into the void over the last year.
Gezt 1 Nov 2017, 08:40
+2 -0
2 joints for 150?! That's an atrociously high price
Feeling High 24 Oct 2017, 10:54
+18 -4
What’s wrong in mentioning their names? They were not doing charitable work right ! Only name murderers, rapists and terrorists is it? Why do the crime if you can’t do the time, when caught :-) Good job, Kian
Magic Tomato 24 Oct 2017, 11:02
+17 -0
Hash for personal consumption isn't a big deal but half a kilo suggest dealer...
Shameerpet baba 24 Oct 2017, 11:18
+10 -12
Several disturbing incidents at Nalsar (as a present student):

1. In this case, Y & A (the arrested kids) were bringing ganja back to campus for their friends as well. Local police have generally been lax about any enforcement, but the recent drug busts in Tollywood has brought police inaction under scrutiny. Hence, they are very keen to show action wherever possible. In fact, Nalsar admin was actively trying to negotiate with the local SI to let the students off, but the cops did not relent. But thankfully, the charge has been written in a way so as to suggest personal consumption only.

2. Because of this, Nalsar admin has now cracked down on student liberties: bags frisked, CCTVs installed everywhere on campus.

3. In fact, last year, a leading Nalsar student (son of prominent public figure and anit-corruption activist) orchestrated a Serpico-like bust on a bunch of junior students who happened to have some pot on them (purely out of personal animosity). Because of this, admin is going after those students with a vengeance. Any hopes of a lenient penalty/appeal for them is completely ruined because of this latest bust and the press attention.

4. Sadly, the student-body office bearers are too scared to act or say anything. Sure, the college needs to show that it is being responsible, but the degree to which campus freedoms are restricted are unreasonable to say the least. Someone has to speak up.

5. Nalsar is nothing like Jindal - all students come through a rigorous entrance exam. Just like any elite college in India, there is some recreational drug use (all within control and not affecting anyone else). Jindal has a lot of rich kids from Haryana who are clearly a substantial part of the student body. Only some students are able to take advantage of Jindal's faculty/infrastructure. So when Jindal kids get caught with kilos of drugs its obviously different from Nalsar.

Here's hoping Nalsar doesn't go down the NLU-D style of authoritarianism.
Nalsar student 24 Oct 2017, 12:35
+9 -2
2. Because of this, Nalsar admin has now cracked down on student liberties: bags frisked, CCTVs installed everywhere on campus. - Present student here too. CCTVs everywhere in one day? quite a fictitious claim. for one, no one has seen any.
4. Sadly, the student-body office bearers are too scared to act or say anything. Sure, the college needs to show that it is being responsible, but the degree to which campus freedoms are restricted are unreasonable to say the least. Someone has to speak up.- They aren't scared, really. The present committee has signed securities for kids found intoxicated and smuggling in contraband, orinarily things that can put a person in jail in any other city based college. The committee has been brave enough to stand up, in fact, for a student who has been served multiple show causes not only for consuming intoxicants, but getting the same on campus. That student has escaped strict action multiple times, but still like others, doesn't see the error and instead blames everything on the admin, which might be unreasonable a few times, but not as many as 5+ times.
More reality, please :)
Shameerpet Amma 24 Oct 2017, 15:19
+5 -3
"Sadly, the student-body office bearers are too scared to act or say anything".

You are surely not in the loop of what is actually happening. Those very bearers you are accusing of being cowards have been going out of their way, keeping their preparation for exams aside and helping out the accused in whatever manner that is possible.

As for the CCTV cameras, they were anyway going to be installed, a decision taken prior to this incident. And last I checked, there is no CCTV camera on campus at present.
Yash Karunakaran 24 Oct 2017, 15:29
+14 -1
Let me preface this by introducing myself - I'm a current 3rd Year at NALSAR and also an Executive Member of the Student Body.

In response to the comment, let me first say that there are no CCTVs on campus, nor shall we allow such an imposition. As for bag checking, unfortunately, yes. This is't an administrative decision, it's one that has been communicated to us by the local Station. in light of the current proceedings against our students, it is best we follow their requests at least until the charges are dropped.

As for the leniency against individuals who have been pulled up by the admin previously, we're possibly one of the most lenient there is - there are my friends and peers who have been caught numerous times, and who have been let off as Office bearers of the SBC have taken personal responsibility for their actions.

As for the claim that the student body office bearers have been silent - That's possibly the least truthful account of the last three days. Various office bearers have been present throughout at the local Station, then at the local court, and have tried our best to ensure that no harm befalls the two individuals in question. As for not speaking up against the crackdown - what crackdown? There are no CCTVs, and the bag checks only happen at the main college gate due to police orders. There has been no checking of hostels, no sudden authoritarian orders or the like.

While i understand the need to vent out your frustrations anonymously on a public forum, i assure you a better return for your time would be to approach me or any other office bearer with any specific concerns you may have.
Shameerpet baba 25 Oct 2017, 07:17
+4 -5
Yash, thank you for having the courage to reply publicly on my comment. As for me, I'm sorry, I must remain anonymous. Any utopian hopes I had as a young student going through Nalsar with reliable, trustworthy and well-intentioned seniors were all smashed by the incidents outlined in Point 3 (original comment). I know, #notallseniors and all that. But the fact that something like that even happened (orchestrated by a prominent/achieving student that too) leads me to be distrustful in general, especially with no social consequences for the senior who did it. So, I must remain anonymous.

Clarifying Point 2: I meant CCTVs coming, I doubt anyone can stop that now. Given the most righteous SBC didn't bother to object in any meaningful way to the bag checks at the main gate, I have little confidence that they'll have a backbone in re CCTVs (who are the local police to say bags must be checked)? There is no need for college to bend over backwards because two people were caught doing something they shouldn't have been doing (or shouldn't have been caught doing). I'm sorry, this bag checking business is not something I can brush aside. For someone who lives by the rules (or at least, is responsible enough to not get caught, which after all was supposed to be the expectation of the SBC/admin), it is something that deeply affects me.

As for my final point, I have been to NLU-D. That campus is like an office complex, "don't sit here", "this is for guests", "wardens/guards can check you anytime" etc. That sort of culture starts with minor incursions into student spaces (albeit justified similarly, 'local police instructions', 'Dwarka is unsafe'), and we end up with something like this. Maybe Nalsar was like this before with Ranbir Singh, but thankfully it has not reached that it.

As for the SBC's response, a lot leaves to be desired. Sure, in this case, do try all you can to save Y & A. But that doesn't condone institutional inefficiency. Rather than fight for every individual caught, and plead with the admin, how about more clearly delineating what is socially permissible and what is not? Why should we be beholden to SBC's (or admin's) benefaction? Particularly, after seeing what an esteemed senior did last year (Point 3)?

My friends in NUJS tell me, for whatever flaws they have (infra lacking/incompetent admin etc), at least their student body has a spine. They aren't fooled by carrots dangled by the admin, into thinking that any actual student enfranchisement is happening.
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 21:10
+5 -0
2017 - [...] & [...] drug bust
2016 - [...] & [...] drug bust
2015 - [...] (2016 batch) air-hostess voyeur video
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one can go on. But these happened in your time. These happened in times of lax checking (there are more happening everyday that people close their eyes towards). Still you have the nerve to call it one-off, shame on you. Live by the rule my foot.
Scooter- 26 Oct 2017, 07:51
+2 -0
"As for the SBC's response, a lot leaves to be desired"- Pun intended.
Shameerpet Raja 24 Oct 2017, 15:59
+3 -2
1. No CCTVs on campus yet (at least not in the present situation).
2. Admin not taking action (despite having knowledge of all activities) in itself seems to be leniency, so do not really see the point there.
3. As far as the student-body office bearers are concerned, they have been helping the kids. Campus freedoms have not been restricted, only orders of strict enforcement have been issued.

Please get your facts straight before speaking up on a public forum.
Society Living 24 Oct 2017, 12:02
+11 -1
Complete lack of ethics. Hope things change. The non - ethical and dumbos are absorbed probably by fraudulent companies as Group Counsel to hide the company's frauds and in the process multiply scandals.
CIA 24 Oct 2017, 13:29
+0 -0
neither confirming nor denying the rest.
but no cctv installed on campus (yet).
Guest 24 Oct 2017, 15:52
+15 -3
Shameful behaviour by Nalsar students and even more shameful that Nalsar students are defending such criminal behaviour on LI.
Mx. X 24 Oct 2017, 18:10
+18 -2
If its illegal, its illegal. If you can't do the time don't do the crime they say.
Chandramukhi chautala 24 Oct 2017, 19:35
+21 -8
1. Who said hash, it was ganja which was less than half a kilo, to be exact 475gm, which if divided between two will be 235 gm each.
2. Kindly go and read the NDPS act before commenting.
3. According, to the act 1kg is what is considered as smaller quantity and below that, it is personal consumption for which section 27 of ndps applies. Further, if booked under section 27, the immunity is provided under 64a of the ndps act, if they go for rehab.
4. The ndps also provides that the arrest should be done as per the procedure given under the ndps act which was clearly not the case. There was no independent witness present when they were arrested. So, when it comes to point whether the university should expel them or not, i would say innocent until proven guilty.
5. I can’t belive what kind of lawyers you guys would make if you are basing your entire argument on the basis of media trial.
6, Lastly, what if the college expel them now and later they are acquitted by the court, who will be responsible then for destroying their carrier?
Superb Post 25 Oct 2017, 05:08
+9 -1
You had me at 'Who said hash'. If only you had made a 'career'of it.
Mx. X 26 Oct 2017, 11:50
+12 -1
Since I am unaware of the facts of the case and the distinction between hash, ganja, weed etc. and can't be bothered to check the NDPS Act, I shall refrain from commenting on Sr. Nos. 1 to 5.

Regarding Sr. No. 6, disciplinary proceedings stand on a completely different footing. All the University has to do is establish, on the strength of preponderance of probability, that the students' actions amounted to some form of misconduct under the applicable rules and regulations. If the students are expelled following an enquiry, they can possibly file an appeal to the appellate authority within the university. If the appeal is dismissed, they can file a writ on the grounds that the punishment is disproportionate.

And if they are acquitted in the meanwhile, they don't go to jail.

And if their 'carrier' is destroyed, they can get a new one. But if their legal careers are destroyed, they have nobody to blame but themselves.
NDPS is the problem 25 Oct 2017, 07:18
+5 -6
I think its important to get this in perspective. It is not sufficient to simply say if its illegal, its illegal.

The NDPS Act is one of the harshest laws that exists today. It even had the mandatory death penalty for some offences, till the Bombay High Court read it down. The provisions, sentences, presumptions. requirements for getting bail are all excessive to say the least. Alot of the harshness it linked to the three international drug control conventions.

Treating drug use with harsh criminal law is also linked to the 'war on drugs' which started in the US and has then grown internationally. It is now quite clear that the war on drugs has been an abject failure - with severe effects on the rights of drug users, public health as well as HIV and Hep C epidemics. The work of the Global Commission on Drug Policy can be looked at in this regard.

The police/NCB across the country routinely misuse the NDPS Act. The harshness of the law lends itself to abuse. The case against the two students will have to stand the scrutiny of the courts and thus it is important to wait for due process to take its course.

The Act requires a serious overhaul in my opinion. In the mean time,apart from Section 64A regarding treatment, Section 71 allows the Govt. to set up centres for treatment which has been a recent addition.
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 21:19
+6 -0
As long as we are offering perspective, let us also add that the misuse of laws (especially the harsher ones) happens against the economically and socially weaker sections of the population. [...], from Delhi, studying at NALSAR just doesn't fit the profile.

Yes, the penalties are harsh.
Yes, they have been proven to ruined a entire generation of black kids in the US.
Yes, they are mis-utilized in India.
Yes, (as pointed in one the comments above) this wasn't commercial quantity.
Maybe, the requirement of having independent witnesses was not adhered to by the police.
Yes, the previous point will be used by the judge to let 'the good kids with a bright future' off.

However, just like we can't say 'a crime is a crime', lets not pretend you won't say 'but they were acquitted' in a few months time. Just like NALSAR says that about [...].
Guest 25 Oct 2017, 11:19
+11 -10
NALSAR has become a hub of moral corruption full of sex, drugs and crime. Only 50% of students are from merit list, rest are from dubious quotas.NALSAR cannot match NLSIU unless such students are denied admission at the outset.

Even some years ago a NALSAR student was arrested for molesting an Indigo air hostess (it was reported in all newspapers).
better 25 Oct 2017, 16:20
+10 -1
nls drug dealers are better
Guest 26 Oct 2017, 05:23
+4 -10
NALSAR is the most overrated NLU. The faculty quality is poor and this incident shows that student quality is also poor.
Guest 26 Oct 2017, 17:58
+6 -0
Ya right. Criminal students turn to name calling faculty when put under pressure. Name the faculty member(s) who are an issue. Also tell us why.

However, don't use general 'playing to the gallery' statements to run from your (colleague's) criminality.
5th Year 26 Oct 2017, 10:09
+2 -0
Knew that these lazy second years would make us proud some day. So sad to have such batches coming in. Other NLU, are your second year batches shit too?
Guest 26 Oct 2017, 18:00
+8 -1
Is AV a second year, or third?

Was PA a second year?

Were those question paper leakers second years?

Was Walia, Doon hit and run a second year?

You have been a bunch of criminals for longer than the present second years.
4th Year 27 Oct 2017, 18:09
+4 -2
Agree with the 5th Year, the 2nd years have been shit. Absolutely shit. All they know is Ganja, sitting in the stadium and vomiting in the dhaba. Nalsar's future is in jeopardy. Lets hope they have buckle up.


@Guest - Sure, lets compare ourselves with fucked up people to justify the laziness of a whole batch.
Adv. XYZ 31 Oct 2017, 08:42
+0 -1
Both, Mustafa and Dhanda have literally ruined NALSAR. There's no sense of discipline at NALSAR at all as both the above mentioned entities are immensely power hungry and act as politicians. In order to gain popularity and no opposition from the students they have done away with the concept of discipline whether it is the case of attendance, academic rigour or any other instance where discipline is indispensable.

The question is as to what was the administration doing? Were they themselves under the influence of GANJA?? The responsibility is more of the administration as against that of the students. Why no full time wardens at NALSAR have been appointed? If the money that is used to finance the daily trips of VC's wife (150 kms at the rate of Rs. 1.5 /km) had been used for appointments of full time wardens, NALSAR would definitely not be in the mess that it is in today.

However, the above is just a trailer of the happenings at NALSAR. There are so many things that the outside world is unaware of as Mustafa is very conscious of his public image and has managed to keep the media on his side; had he invested the same money & efforts for betterment of NALSAR, the place would have been in a better situation.

The fact of the matter is that NALSAR has the most pathetic administration just running on past
reputation.
Darkseid 31 Oct 2017, 11:47
+2 -0
Same goes for NUJS. Under the present VC, academic discipline has gone for a complete shot! Drugs, rampant harassment of girls inside campus, multiple repeat and special repeat examinations held to just make students from influential families pass, financial scams, lack of new good faculty applying, it's all a mess. And obviously, quality has begun to decline too. The past glory plus a handful of brilliant students have just kept the name alive so far. But for how long is the tragic question. All the NLUs are gradually going down, the differing degrees depending upon the extent of feudal structures and how bad the current VC is. And the government refuses to take cognizance and actually turn them into the places of excellence they should have been and could have been.