Dear BR

Your course was really helpful for us Non NLU guys, where HR never even looks at our CVs if we write the name of our college in internship applications. I am the topper of my batch and also performed well in one of the course and was happy to get a recommendation to a tier 1 and am performing well here as well.

To all the people saying it's useless content and stuff, what do people like me do? I cannot absolutely afford the fees at an NLU and Im in a gen category and able to get just CNLU and the likes which dont help me at all in anything. I cannot afford CLAT coaching or even the NLU fees if I even get the chance. The ABS is also very selective and has some other rounds, and I certainly cannot waste time and money on it. This is the reality of us. We really have to spend the 6k to 10k and also perform well here to get some chance at internships and therefore set the foot into these places. Ofcource once I was here I realised that most team members really are mediocre in their work and even the "top 40 under 40 partners" dont know basic law and call the associate to research on basic rules.

I did talk about how netanyahu and israeli policy has worsened this problem. Why are you unable to see something inconvenient to your narrative? Just because someone disagrees with netanyahu doesnt mean israel doesnt have a right to exist. I disagree with modi on nearly everything he does- does that give terrorists the right to bomb and kill indians? Does that make the indian state illegitimate?

Empathy doesnt mean seeing loss of human life as unacceptable- empathy is pretending that you can feel anyone elses pain, empathy is pretending that because you "feel" their pain you are a better person for it. I think loss of human life is unacceptable. Most people who disagree with you think loss of human life is unacceptable. Its the radical left that claims that "resistance by any means necessary" is acceptable if one feels put upon enough. Its offensive to assume that someone is okay with murdered babies because of a disagreement over how we get to the ideal place. I dont think we get to that place without understanding what happened- or lying about it or moral equivocation, why has peace not been attained so far- and what it would take to make palestinians actually free. To make palestinians actually free- it would take the destruction of hamas. This much history proves. As long as a terrorist group asking for a one-state solution to the problem at the threat of genocide and murdering grandmas and babies is seen by ANYONE on the left as "legitimately resisting"- peace will not prevail. If israel ceases its operations today and gives up on finding hamas- hamas will still attack them again in a years time and kill more people. If hamas is forced to surrender today- palestinians will have a better life tomorrow. Israel has not been the unprovoked aggressor here. Hamas has done this repeatedly. Your inability to look this truth square in the face does not mean it is not true. Hamas has had nearly sole control over gaza for 19 years. Why do they have more missiles than they do food? You still dont for a moment take the time to actually make it clear that hamas provoked this conflict- that they are not legitimately resisting and that they are holding palestinians hostage. Geo politics is not about blame game- instagram is. Fareed zakaria has a clear solution to what should happen, Thomas Friedman has a clear solution. You do not. You just want to chastise other people for not caring about loss of human life. Because your empathy is not really about those people at all. Its about validating how wonderful you are. And you assume that people who disagree with you dont care because you cannot imagine a world in which you might just be wrong. You need to work on that.

CAM pays full bonus for the first year, and less than 100% (except for a few high billing teams) from A1 level onwards. KCo has the worst pay, but work culture is not as hectic and peer-pressure like in CAM, so i'd say a 50k per year difference is worth it for the flexibility.

https://thewire.in/law/ed-arrests-two-co-founders-of-ashoka-university-in-alleged-money-laundering-case

https://www.livemint.com/news/ed-arrests-ashoka-university-co-founders-pranav-gupta-vineet-gupta-in-alleged-money-laundering-case-11698498354108.html

Is this common among private universities?

First of all this finishing school is only open for girls, so no question of boys attending. But even if it was open for boys, the reason girls go is because they are expected to host fancy dinners after marriage, be it a diplomat’s wife or the wife of a big industrialist. That sounds sexist, but it is also protocol.

Another reason is that guys are judged less harshly. A tech bro can walk into a high society party wearing jeans and sneakers, order Jack and Coke, wear streets brands, talk loudly. People will actually praise him for being a maverick. If a girl does that then she will be crucified.

I graduated from NLUJ.

I am from general category (with drop). However, I know of NRI students from my batch who are doing far better than I am [i.e. earning more than I am].

I can't vouch for how your daughter will feel, but if she wants a corporate job then 50 lakhs in fee is not a big amount. This considering the fact that she will make as much in less than 3 years time [if she does not get a foreign placement, then she will make even more]. Very few investments have that good an ROI.

What sort of post graduation can steer a law graduate to become a professor in India. My son direly dislikes law, however, desires to enter academia in non-law field. Anyone on this platform aware of such non-traditional career trajectories, please post .

A certain kid working with world bank, worked up via MS in Econ after BALLB. Looking for similar/related suggestions or examples? Thanks

Scroll has just published an article explaining the law regarding pet custody. But the point missed is that Mahau and Jai were not married but merely living in. I doubt that gives the same rights as a married couple

https://scroll.in/article/1058197/mahua-moitra-row-who-has-the-right-to-henry-heres-what-lawyers-say-about-pet-custody-disputes

Two questions you need to ask yourself

1. Are you looking for a return on investment? Depending on the university, that isn't going to be the case. You have to look at it as a sunk cost which lets your child join a profession.

2. Is your child up for the challenge. If you feel they are not ready for the grind, maybe save their year and move them to something more up their speed.

I get that NLUJ needs something to feel proud about but it’s not just one batch at NLUD. We’ve had multiple batches with atleast 2-3 folks getting TCs. NLUJ doesn’t have any more than these. Not to mention all the other Co-curricular achievements that NLUJ hasn’t achieved despite being some 7-8 batches older. Might want to focus on being better than GNLU first before comparing yourselves to us.

There is plenty of material denouncing the Israeli leadership and practices too. However, you would of course avoid all that. The point remains that you are completely off the mark. Empathy means to start from the point that the loss of human lives is unacceptable for any objective whatsoever. You seem to be fine with treating people as collateral damage. I am not. Be it the Israeli children or the Palestinian ones. So there is no point in engaging further in this matter. Geo political discussions in this front have been going on for years, including the blame gaming. West has got a lot of things to answer for, as do the Arab countries, for having stoked this conflict to suit their own needs.

No. They don't. An Assistant Professor in a public university in this country gets paid about 85k gross as a fresher. The tax is also much higher compared to a law firm associate because of the presumptive income clause. The increment for an AP is about 3k every year, which is minuscule compared to the difference between A0 and A1 salaries. However, an AP has to work not more than 5 hours a day max, 5 days a week, at a public university, compared to 10 hours a day, 6 days a week (often Sundays too) for an associate. So these are very different jobs and shouldn't be compared. The work satisfaction for an AP is arguably higher, at least in the beginning, assuming that they have joined academics because they want to teach and research, whereas an associate is hardly going to be entrusted with anything interesting or innovative in the first 3-4 years.

Her parents are most sensible, as is she. They sent her to the finishing school (and she agreed) because they all knew that she would be hosting or attending parties with the who’s who of the world. At that level of society, good manners and fashion sense matters more than a Harvard LLM. So you need to shape up or you will stick out badly.

As for INSEAD, contacts made there are more valuable than contacts made during an LLM.

Hi, you wouldn't believe but unlike associate salaries, the billing rates keep up with the excessive inflation presently, and Equity partners, atleast senior ones are making hell lot of money, even more than IB MDs. Theyre greedy to raise salaries as well because no competition.

A summary of the comments one sees:

“Too dumb to make it to NLUs” (for people doing LLBs abroad)

“You’ll never be as good as us NLU guys” (for non-NLU grads doing LLMs abroad)

“You’ll never be as good as us tier 1 NLU guys” (for tier 2 NLU grads doing LLMs abroad)

“Waste of time, because Cyril Shroff doesn’t care” (for tier 1 NLU grads doing an LLM abroad and then returning to India)

“Rich kid, nepo kid” (in all the above cases)

Why so much negativity? 🤨

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h1XD7fQSfg&ab_channel=TheProfGShow%E2%80%93ScottGalloway

Here is fareed zakaria talking about how a bunch of stuff you might think intuitively is wrong. Its US disengagement with the Middle East has led to conflict, this is Hamas putting in a wedge between Saudis and israel. Hamas is fighting a sympathy war they deliberately carried out these barbaric attacks on oct 7 hoping for an outsized overreaction from israel to increase sympathy for their cause. palestinian leadership and hamas have rejected several deals over history- 1947 to clinton and ehud barak- they keep wanting a one state solution which would mean the only jewish country in the world would not exist. that they keep fighting wars they will lose instead of agreeing to a two state solution that would improve the lives of palestinians. Its the palestinian leadership that is power hungry and religiously dogmatic and wants to prioritise a political victory over its own peoples existence. He comes right out and says it- they are feckless and corrupt. And your empathy- is the tool theyre using to their own benefit. If they cared about palestinians- they would focus on governance and not on provoking war by barbaric terrorist attacks.. Theres plenty more about what this might do for the war in ukraine, for geopolitics, how different countries might react etc- Go learn something. Its at least a more informed guy than some influencer on insta.

What does semi-T1 mean? You are either T1 or not.

Btw seems like a scam post. If you are making 5cr as competition lawyer, you are one of the handful leading comp law lawyers in India. And should already be knowing what the industry numbers are at this point.

A few years ago Luthra Co-founders were making a specific publicly disclosed amount. If current rainmakers in Corp are making such amounts, your numbers are not very far off. However, if you were actually making this much, you would easily have the knowledge/influence to figure out numbers.

LI would be the last place for you to ask.

I'm not assuming thats what you as an individual are thinking. I am informed that that is what woke idiots on twitter think. When you spread conspiracy theories like jews control the world because of their money, jews hynotise the world, big money controlling politicians, jews do not have a historical claim to live in modern day israel- its classic anti semitism. Literally youre peddling jew hatred and you dont even know it.

If you had a more substantive reply to anything I said you would. Thats fine - I dont want to shame you for just not knowing better- but really- this is a complex thing that is anything but straightforward- you cannot help jews or palestinians from india- but you can atleast consume the news intelligently and not lean in to every bit of nonsense you see on insta.

You can do Asst profship and PhD at the same time but from the experiences of a few people I know it is difficult and not recommended as you cannot do full justice to both.

If you get a full time appointment as Asst Prof in a university then after 3 years of continuous service you will be eligible for study leave to do a PhD as per UGC regulations. As someone else has said, try for a funded position abroad and go.

Not really I think. 4th and 5th year in most NLUs is where the electives are, and you're expected to do well in your electives since they are subjects of your choice (and presumably interest). It is much better to have a transcript where your grades are poor in years 1&2 and improve thereon, than one following the reverse trajectory.

Hi,

I require insights into the field of legal journalism.

1. Where can a fresh law graduate work as a legal correspondent? I know Live Law and Bar and Bench. Besides these, does The Print (I admire their investigative journalism) offer opportunities to lawyers seeking to report and write on socio-legal issues?

2. In general, what is the remuneration of the legal journalists/correspondents?

3. What is the work culture in respect of legal journalism? Does one have to work from office or is work from home allowed (excluding the time required for news coverage in various places)?

I am familiar with the work of a NUJS graduate currently working at BBC as a correspondent. Loved his career trajectory.

Please, if anyone can share some information on the above, it would be of great help.

Thanks!

No. Grades are abo it the most important cut off . You’ll get in with middle grades - but funding and scholarships invariably go to students who did very well academically. I wouldn’t give you this advice if you wanted to practice - but for an llm and academics - nothing makes your life more easy than winning the Fulbright and that’s only really possible if you’re topping your class.

I am a bit of an illiterate on luxury watches. Full disclosure though, I have had my fair share of splurges on things I like. I had a question (so that I buy the right luxury watch - if that ever interests me) - isnt rolex the go to luxury watch if can spend in lacs? I judge my clients basis whether or not they are wearing a rolex.

Hi,

I'm in my fourth year and have maintained a decent-ish rank till now. However, I want to explore a bit more (publish, read books) and reduce the time I spend on acads.

If I plan to do an LLM after 2-4 years of work ex - till what semester will my grades count?

TL;DR: Can I afford to slack on acads a but?

There is no such things as ‘gold standard’ in capital markets work. It is mind numbing copy paste work - and the best and the worst drafts look alike. So broadly, the large firms get the more premium copy paste work and are able to charge well, while the 2nd tier get mid-caps and must rely on scale to make the cyclical work worthwhile.

I think unfortunately bad time for s&r has come. They had very limited clients but with good value. Also in terms of recruitment they were very picky and due to recent recessionary trend client has dropped immensely. Various Associate are serving notice and some partner going to switch. Bad time