It definitely is worth a lot on your CV if you win something, especially if you rep your Uni at internationals. But it certainly isn't an end all or be all of things; if you're from a lower NLU or private college and have it, you may still not be placed, and if you're from a better college you can certainly be placed without it.

I agree with the first sentence. While I am from a top NLU, I have seen a few kids from underprivileged backgrounds do extremely well at moots. Therefore, even if the second sentence may be statistically true, it shouldn't deter those who don't have the social capital from trying their hand at it

Deeply hilarious to see the involvement of Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy in the drafting of the IT Rules Amendment, as exposed in legal documents. The Amendment sought to clamp down on dissent with the government-run fact check body and was held unconstitutional by the Bombay HC.

What amuses me:

1. One of the cofounders himself has been liking posts on LinkedIn about the BHC judgment;

2. Holders of INR 1 cr foreign LLM in human rights were working at Vidhi, on a high horse for not working for an "evil corporate lala firm";

3. Every law student who chose to join a firm but was ridiculed by people belonging to (2) has been partly vindicated. What their firms are doing may not be great but Vidhi is DIRECTLY involved in creating the legislations actively harming democracy;

4. For all of this, Vidhi was supposedly only asking for INR 8-9 lakhs. Lmao

The repute of T1 firms only matters vis a vis the top 1%, the wealthiest or most powerful people and their businesses which can afford to hire them (and do). I have seen a few NRIs/HNIs actually being aware of all these firms and even their deals (more than me, who interned at one of them). They don't care (and needn't care) about being known by your cousin who is earning 3LPA in Infosys. In fact, famous Sr Advs are only known to the common man because of the powerful, famous and wealthy whom they represent in court. Add to this the bar on advertising - no firm has a reason to, or legally can, spend too much money on promoting their brand beyond what it already is.

I am writing this to warn students who use paraphrasing software for their articles or research papers.

There are paraphrasing tools in the market, such as Quillbot. These tools work by allowing you to input a paragraph, which they then rewrite or refine in different ways. Please note that they do not generate new content but simply rewrite what you have already written in a different way. To make my research paper appear more polished, I used Quillbot. At that time, I had no idea what ChatGPT was. Unfortunately, if you use paraphrasing software and then run your text through AI detection tools, it flags your work as AI-generated, even if it's not.

Recently, during an interview, I had a hard time convincing them that I didn't use ChatGPT for my paper. I eventually had to remove my publication from my resume.

Hello, I wanted to know if working at Big4 as "Associate Consultant" in Risk Analysis, Contract cycle management or Tech is useful for a career in the long run.

Also, what is the difference between the job profile of a Consultant at Big4 and an Associate in a Law Firm?

Thank you.

It is a boutique law firm with decent work for lawyers interested to pursue a career in the Employment and Labour law sector. They don't have any decent work/guidance/experience in corporate law vertical and load you with secretarial work which a CS would ideally do in any other law firm, so please don't go expecting closing big deals or working on any M&A/Venture Capital work - it doesn't exist. They have one loyal client from ages (an educational institute), with whom they have a few commercial agreements so you may get some drafting and advisory experience through that in bits and pieces.

It is a sole proprietorship of the labour law partner and has a total of maximum of 3-4 lawyers and one/two admin staff at any given point. No concept of HR in a firm that size obviously, so good luck escalating any issues. The culture is more relaxed when compared to Tier 1/2 law firms and you may have your weekends to yourself. Although, this might not be the same in the labour and employment vertical. There also might be long periods where one might not find any work in the corporate vertical and will be dumped with work from the labor vertical. ▮▮▮ culture is questionable if put simply, the pay and bonus are low and entirely depend on ▮▮▮ [long passage of examples redacted] All in all a good learning experience and a great place to work for (6 months until you find something else :)). Goodluck

As a person who converted an assessment into a full time role, I'd say it depends on the place. I was offered an assessment internship on the basis of my one month internship with the boutique firm. If you're getting an assessment internship on the basis of your previous experience (as an intern) with the firm, obviously the chances of converting it would be higher. The rest also depends on what kind of firm it is since some of them are notorious for having long term interns. Ideally don't commit for anything longer than 2 months since you've already graduated. Hope this helps, good luck!

Agree. The education would need to be broader.

It's also disingenuous because it sounds like PR for NFSU. Part of me really feels sorry for responding with the comment about degree options, because somebody has chosen to turn this debate back towards the direction of dick measuring contests (which I was hoping could be avoided), by piggybacking on my earlier reply.

Why do you look at them as mutually exclusive? Rather than go on this exclusionary (and ridiculous) tirade, ask for more options and diversity. What is impractical and uninteresting to you may not be for others, and vice-versa. Live and let live, the heavens will not fall down.

Can someone who's working at tier 1s please give some information about if your team is hiring for 2026 batch? (T1 NLU, interest is GC/M&A) Don't have a lot of money, can't afford to waste on living in T-1 cities for endless internships, so some help would be really great.

You see, as a criminal law practitioner, I feel this is very disingenuous and unhelpful - BSc LLB should not be in data science! How does that help a lawyer in any real sense? Now had it been in Human Biology/Anatomy or anything of that sort...could have been very useful.

Similarly for corporate forensics... I don't think we need any more than a strong understanding of accountancy & bookkeeping here.

These frankly seems like science degrees with LLB slapped on, rather than law degrees being paired with a field of study that could be used to advance the understanding & practice of law itself.

Just my two cents. Feel free to disagree.

An excellent counter, to which I don't think I want/need to add anything substantive.

Just here to say that even if we were to adopt the OP's worldview completely, I think the call to 'replace' a BA LLB degree is uncharitable, and therefore disappointing. I think a much wiser call would be for NLUs to provide more programme options (i.e., providing students with the option to register for a BA LLB or BSC LLB or BBA LLB degree). The world's reputable universities have done this, e.g., providing students with the options to study Law and Criminology, Law and Politics, Law and History, Law and Business, English Law and French Law etc., so why can't a place with a strong reputation like NLSIU do something like that in the context of our circumstances as well?

hi, can someone give some real insights about LKS, Mumbai specifically for IDT teams? I am aware there are many threads on this. I wanted to know how are things post the revised pay scale ? Can someone share insights on the PPO prospects (Real ones), growth (Hike over the years), etc.

Thanks in advance

A BA degree helps you better understand the context in which the Indian Legal System has come about, and thus practice/apply law better. The context matters a lot, especially for things like Constitutional Law.

To say that "caste, feminism" etc. has no practical relevance for a lawyer...seems trollish. The only reason I've not marked this trollish is because you seek a "rational counter".

Let's deal with it point-wise, I guess:

Re: 1 - Why is an ideal end-goal for a law graduate a management job? In any case, if some people are specifically inclined towards that, they can opt for it - no need to replace BA with BSc.

Re: 2 - You're right, knowledge of accounting principles etc. does help somewhat, especially at things like commercial litigation/white collar crimes. But then an MBBS helps you understand bodily injury-crimes better (I regularly consult doctors for insights into MLCs, PM Reports, etc.). ALL knowledge really helps you have an edge in some manner. A BA degree similarly helps you understand the society better, and gives you an edge in the constitutional matters/writ practice. That by itself is no reason to place one of those at a higher pedestal than another.

Re: 3 & 4 - Umm. Okay. Not really a separate point, is it? The response stated hereinabove be read in response to 3 and is not being repeated herein for the sake of brevity (I know, I'm being cheeky).

So BSc & MBA will help you better deal with AI/climate change/business, you claim. But what about criminal matters, election petitions, constitutional law cases, social-rights litigation etc.?

Internship interviews are taken mostly by SAs (check email; HR might have kept the interviewer in CC). Questions, tbh, depend upon the interviewer's mood, but they will mostly be related to CM. If you've interned with CM teams earlier, read about everything related to your tasks (same goes for CM/Securities related moots & publications). For instance, if you did some proofreading associated with PPD, read about Ch VI Part 3 of ICDR + relevant CA 2013 provisions + any recent updates/amendments.

All the best!

The only good thing here before Faizan was the focus on academics due to stringent marking. Now he has removed it too, forcing every faculty to hand out marks like toffees to children. One would expect that the spare time would lead the students to engage in other extra-curricular activities (moots, conferences, papers and all), but it has only led to holding one street-level sports league to another every other week. The lenient marking has amplified the low IQ people to such an extent that first years are being mocked to focus on their intra moot, rather than participating in the gully-cricket league. Idk if it's the environment or something else, but the all the new batches are breaking unheard magnitude of patheticness. No one can even write a paper without requesting a prompt for it on ChatGPT.

The placements haven't improved one bit, being just as bad as they were before Faizan's arrival. With just two PPOs for batch of 2025 (one of of which is non-law domain), I keep regretting every day why I chose to study here.

I have an upcoming internship with a Tier 1, but one of my batchmates has just received a PPO from the same team I'm set to intern with. Is it possible for the team to offer more than one PPO to interns from the same batch, or is it typically limited to just one per team each year? Any insights would be appreciated.

Usually lawyers switch and go to consulting firms because of better work life balance but is it as bad there too?

Without sounding insensitive, don't you think the EY conundrum has blown out of proportion?

The work life is balance is worse at law firms but nobody cares.

1. A BSc or BBA degree will prepare you better to crack CAT/GMAT and do an MBA in India or abroad. Then eventually get coveted jobs in Wall Street, Silicon Valley and the top jobs in Mumbai.

2. MBA apart, a BBA will teach you practically useful stuff like accounting, investing, managing projects etc. This, in turn, will make you more in demand in the job market and also empower you better to found your own company.

3. Tech and AI are the future. A BSc degree, if it includes subjects like coding, will be an asset. Also, add subjects like bio and environmental science and you can add value in jobs related to climate change.

4. In contrast, just look at the BA curriculum: no practical relevance in studying judicial administration in colonial India, the Constituent Assembly, ▮▮▮ etc

I challenge anyone to rationally counter me on any of these points (instead of just impulsively voting because you want to defend your BALLB degree).

I know someone from YC's team. I agree with the 1st part regarding the opportunities and varied kind of work. But not sure about less toxicity. Whoever is thinking of joining should do their due diligence before. Ask the people who have left or still working with him. I have heard horrible things, some of which are so bizzare that nobody can even make that up.

Manjiri isn’t the easiest person to work with.

The SRP team under her is a failed attempt by the CM practice head at breaking into the Securities practice. Her team hasn’t done significant work apart from the (failed) representation during the PNBHFL SEBI/SAT matter a few years back and the current representation in the PAYTM matter.

On the contrary, Yogesh Chande's securities practice is much more successful and less toxic. Yogesh advises on much more varied matters and is an old hand. In contrast, Manjiri is a CM lawyer masquerading as a securities lawyer, and Prashant is only qualified in English law (or so he claims).

If possible, apply to YCs team.

Hope this helps!

Really saddened by the developments at Indus in the past few months. Not sure what even wrong, or why couldn't the management stem this exodus. I would imagine more than 125 lawyers have left the Firm in these months ! The efforts made in past 10 years appears to be all undone. My best wishes remain, and in my view and experience, the founding partners are a great set of people and decent human beings...

How many partners can a team have before it becomes unsustainable?

The query is based on the background that I keep reading teams having a senior partner and 5-6 or even more partners. This is not about firms but a particular team within a firm. Also, wondering does it make sense at mid senior level to stick in a team which already has these many partners if the aim is to move to partnership eventually.